Oct 06, 2026 Board of Commissioners

[I. OPENING]

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LET ME WELCOME EVERYONE TO OUR. TUESDAY, OCTOBER 6TH, 2026 BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS MEETING.

WE ALWAYS OPEN OUR MEETING WITH A WORD OF PRAYER AND HAVE THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG. IT'S MY HONOR TODAY TO ASK DEPUTY DAVID PAISLEY FROM REEDS RIDGE CHAPEL BAPTIST CHURCH DOWN THE WEST POINT AREA TO GIVE OUR INVOCATION. I'M GOING TO TAKE REVEREND ANDY BUCHANAN OFF THE HOOK, AND HE'S OUT THERE SOMEWHERE. BUT, DAVID, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING AND GIVING OUR INVOCATION. SO IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE RISE AND THEY WILL HAVE THE FLAG. A PLEDGE TO THE FLAG LED BY COMMISSIONER SCOTT IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THAT. YES, SIR. LET US PRAY. MOST KIND AND GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY ONCE AGAIN TO ASSEMBLE IN THIS ROOM, FATHER LORD, TO DO THE BUSINESS WHICH YOU'VE HAD SAID AMONGST THIS COUNTY. FATHER, I PRAY THAT YOU'LL BLESS OUR LEADERS, LORD, THAT YOU'LL GIVE THEM THE WISDOM. YOU'LL GIVE THEM THE GUIDANCE. YOU'LL GIVE THEM THE STRENGTH TO MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE. FATHER LORD, THAT YOU'LL HOLD US ALL. FATHER LORD, TO ACCOUNT. FATHER, IN OUR PARTICULAR OR PARTICULAR PARTS WITHIN THIS SOCIETY. FATHER, I PRAY THAT YOU'LL BLESS US TODAY. LORD, WITH MERCY, WITH GRACE. FATHER LORD. AND I PRAY, LORD, THAT YOU'LL BE WITH EACH MEMBER OF THIS BOARD AS THEY STAND TO DO THAT WHICH YOU'VE CALLED THEM TO DO IN JESUS PRECIOUS AND HOLY NAME. I DO PRAY TODAY. AMEN AND AMEN. AMEN. NICE FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU DAVID. ALRIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND THE

[III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA/MINUTES]

MOTION CARRIES. NEXT IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE TROUP COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS WORK SESSION, WHICH WAS HELD ON SEPTEMBER THE 15TH, 2026. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO BE APPROVED? MOTION. ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MOTION CARRIES. AND FINALLY, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM TROUP COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS BOARD MEETING, WHICH WAS HELD ON SEPTEMBER THE 15TH, 2026. DO I HAVE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE? SO MOVED. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN

[IV. Special Business]

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MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSIDERATION TO REQUEST TO RENEW THE GEORGIA THRIVE INFANT TODDLER GRANT PROGRAM. THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE GRANT IS $60,000 AND THERE'S NO MATCH REQUIREMENTS. I BELIEVE, MISS DAVIS. IS SHE HERE? OH, SORRY. MICHELLE'S HERE IN THE BACK. HE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. IT'S BEEN A GREAT GRANT FOR US, AND WE CERTAINLY HOPE THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. IF NONE, THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE REQUEST FROM THE JUVENILE COURT TO RENEW THE GEORGIA THRIVE INFANT TODDLER PROGRAM. SO MOVED, MR. CHAIR. ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT ITEM IS PERMISSION TO APPLY FOR THE FOR THE FY 27ACCGGIP GRANT. THIS IS AN INTERN GRANT. THIS INTERN WILL BE ASSIGNED TO LAGRANGE ACTIVE LIFE TO CONDUCT A STUDY ON RETIREMENT READINESS WORKSHOPS. THE TOTAL AMOUNT. THE GRANT IS $3,229.50 AND THERE IS NO MATCH REQUIREMENTS. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. IF NOT, THEN I WOULD SEEK A MOTION TO APPROVE GRANT PERMISSION FOR US TO APPLY FOR THE FY 27GCIP GRANT. SO MOVED SECOND. OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT PRESENTATION IS THE FY 27 GEORGIA EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY, EOD, K9 GRANT, WE ARE ASKING PERMISSION TO APPLY THIS GRANT. IT COVERS THE EXPENSES FOR OUR CANINE PROGRAM. AND THIS YEAR'S BUDGET WILL ALSO ALLOW FOR A NEW VEHICLE TO TO TRANSPORT THAT ANIMAL. THE TOTAL BUDGET IS $63,000 AND THERE IS NO MATCH REQUIREMENTS. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. IF NOT, THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE PERMISSION TO APPLY FOR THE FY 27 JIMA EOD CANINE GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $63,000. DO I HAVE A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THANK YOU. MOTION CARRIES. OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSIDERATION OF THE REPLACEMENT OF THE HEATING AND AIR UNIT FOR THE ELECTIONS BUILDING AT 54 DRIVE. A RECOMMENDATION IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MERRILL ASSOCIATES FOR A 20 TON UNIT AT $45,001.81. AND WE DID HAVE THREE BIDS ON THAT. YES, SIR. WE DID. MONEY WILL COME FROM SPLOST FIVE TO PAY FOR THIS PROJECT. LET ME ASK REAL QUICK. ARE ALL THE MONITORS WORKING ALL THE C FOUR OUT IN FACING THE ROOM? NONE OF THEM ARE WORKING. CAN YOU DIAL UP THAT CHANNEL? TWO OF THEM? ALL OF THEM? ALL FOUR NOW. WORKING NOW. ALL RIGHT. GOOD.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HVAC AT THE ELECTIONS BUILDING? ARE WE LOOKING AT EIGHT WEEKS, 8 TO 10 WEEKS LEAD TIME ON EQUIPMENT AND ABOUT ONE WEEK FOR INSTALLATION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, THEN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE HVAC REPLACEMENT PROJECT AT THE ELECTIONS BUILDING AT 50 FORT DRIVE. DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. OUR FINAL ITEM UNDER LAGRANGE IS THE LAGRANGE HOUSING AUTHORITY AGREEMENTS. THIS MORNING, MRS. HERD CAME BEFORE THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS TO REQUEST SUPPORT ON A PROJECT FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR QUAD PLEX MISS HERD. DO YOU MIND COMING UP? AND I THINK SOME COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. AND YOU CERTAINLY KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT IT THAN I DO. ALL RIGHT. IF ANYONE HAS

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BUT THE COUNTY MAINTAINS AND IT'S OPERATED THAT FOR, YOU KNOW, 25 YEARS. AND SO THERE WE HAVE. SO I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, ANOTHER ONE AGAIN, THE EXAMPLE IS POWDER PARK WHERE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS OWNS PINE RIDGE PARK, BUT THE COUNTY HAS A 25 YEAR LEASE WHERE WE MAINTAIN. AND THAT THAT FACILITY. SO I CAN'T THINK OF ONE WHERE WE'VE WHERE WE'VE IF WE DIDN'T OPERATE IT OR MAINTAIN IT, WE'VE DONE ANY WORK THAT I'M AWARE OF. NO, SIR.

WELL, WHAT WAS THE THE EXACT NUMBER? WAS IT 112735725. OKAY. AND SO THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DIVIDED BY TWO. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. OKAY. AND WE WERE ASKING FOR IT TO BE IN KIND. I KNOW IT'S STILL GOING TO EQUATE TO A DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT REALLY THE CAPACITY OF THE COUNTY, IF THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THE GRADING WITH HAVING EQUIPMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. RIGHT. I THINK JAMES AND I HAD SOME, SOME JUST SOME SPITBALL CONVERSATIONS OVER THE AFTERNOON. AND JUST BASED ON THE, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY, LET'S JUST SAY IT'S SOME 65,000. I'LL THROW THAT OUT. I THINK THAT CERTAINLY THE, THE WORK THAT'S REQUIRED IS GOING TO CERTAINLY FAR EXCEED THAT AMOUNT, EVEN JUST IN MATERIALS FOR BASE AND CONCRETE AND, AND PAVING, PLUS THE OBVIOUSLY THE EQUIPMENT AS WELL. SO IT CERTAINLY WOULD FAR EXCEED, I THINK, EVEN MORE THAN PROBABLY 127,000 POTENTIALLY. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO TRYING TO THINK THROUGH A PROJECT THAT WE'VE JUST DONE SHOOT FOR COMPLEX WHERE WE WENT AND DID, YOU KNOW, SOME DEMO, SOME GRADING, SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME ASPHALT, YOU KNOW, AND SO TRYING TO KIND OF BEGIN TO KIND OF THINK THROUGH LOOKING AT THAT AND HELPING KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT THE COST MIGHT BE. AND I DON'T THINK WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A, WITH A NUMBER. MISHEARD THIS MORNING WHEN I CAME IN, I THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO BE FOR INFORMATION LIKE WE'RE GETTING NOW AND PRESENTATION. SO THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS I DON'T I THINK THE COUNTY WOULD LIKE TO HELP,

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ONE ASPECT IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TYPICALLY NOT ALLOWED TO DO THINGS WITHOUT GETTING SOMETHING IN RETURN. IT'S A VIOLATION OF THE GRATUITIES CLAUSE. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO NAVIGATE THOSE WATERS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT RELATIONSHIP WE COULD HAVE WITH THIS PROJECT AND THE HOUSING AUTHORITY MOVING FORWARD TO. SATISFY THAT PORTION. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU AND I HAD MENTIONED WAS WHETHER THIS OPENED DOORS TO ANY FUTURE OBLIGATIONS FOR THE COUNTY IN TERMS OF WHETHER IT SETS A PRECEDENT OR NOT FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO REACH OUT, OR EVEN TO FURTHER ENGAGE WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, LOCATED INSIDE THE CITY, NOT THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME CONSIDERATIONS THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT TAKE BACK WHILE YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT THIS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS AROUND THE CITY OF LAGRANGE SUPPORTING IT? AND WE'RE WORKING IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY OF LAGRANGE TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE CITY OF LAGRANGE IS DOING THE SIDEWALK PORTION FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND THE COMPLICATION THERE IS THAT THE CITY OF LAGRANGE WILL RETAIN THOSE SIDEWALKS. WE WOULDN'T RETAIN ANY OWNERSHIP OVER THE PARKING LOT OR THE PROPERTY ITSELF. SO IT'S A IT'S DISTINCT IN THAT WAY. YOU KNOW, WE DO PARTNER WITH OUR CITIES QUITE OFTEN AND QUITE WELL. SO, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER WE DO THAT MOVING FORWARD, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT. BUT THAT IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE WORK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PERFORM AND THE WORK THAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO PERFORM. I THINK THAT WAS THE INITIAL PLAN, AND I'LL TALK THROUGH THIS MAYBE A YEAR AGO, WAS THE IDEA. COULD WE CREATE A, YOU KNOW, LIKE A INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT THAT INCLUDED THE CITY AND THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AND THE COUNTY AND THE CITY REALLY DID NOT WANT TO ENGAGE IN THAT AGREEMENT AT THE TIME. THEY DID. THEY DIDN'T SEE A NEED, I GUESS.

I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT SETTING THAT PRECEDENT. I REALLY DO, YOU KNOW, FOR THE FUTURE FROM ANYBODY ELSE, WHATEVER. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT TILL WE GET MORE INFORMATION VERSUS MAKING A DECISION TONIGHT, IF THAT'S OKAY, MISTER CHAIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OKAY.

MOTION IS CARRIED FOR US TO DELAY THIS FOR TWO WEEKS. TWO WEEKS TILL WE GATHER SOME MORE INFORMATION. ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR SPECIAL BUSINESS PART OF OUR AGENDA. THE NEXT ITEM IS

[V. Public Hearings]

ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

MOTION CARRIES. AUSTIN. FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR PUBLIC HEARING IS REZONING OF 100 EICHELBERGER STREET. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING REZONING OF A 2.24 ACRE PARCEL FROM SUBURBAN MEDIUM DENSITY, MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO LIMITED COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT. THE BOARD OF ZONING DID HEAR THIS CASE AND APPROVE THE APPLICATION. SIX ZERO. THIS IS THE FIRST READING AND IT IS VOTE ELIGIBLE. IF YOU LOOK ON THE OVERVIEW THAT JAMES HAS UP RIGHT NOW, ALL THE STRUCTURES ON THIS PARCEL HAVE BEEN DEMOLISHED. OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN OLDER PICTURE. THEY HAVE DATED DEMO PERMITS. THEY'VE DONE EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAD THAT THEY HAD TO DO IN ORDER TO DEMO THOSE PROPERTIES. BUT. IT WAS ALL SPLIT INTO FOUR SEPARATE PROPERTIES AND THEY COMBINED THEM. THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS JUST POSTED. YES IT'S POSTED. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

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SO I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP. IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME FORTH. ALRIGHT. HEARING NONE, IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME FORTH. YOU'RE IN SUPPORT. YES, SIR. PLEASE COME UP FRONT. GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. 212 EAST MIDWAY. I LIVE INSIDE THE CITY. WE HAVE BUSINESSES. I'VE BEEN DOING BUSINESS WITH LUCAN AND ALL-PRO AND NOW AUTO GALLERY. THEY RUN AWESOME BUSINESS AND IT'S A REAL CLEAN BUSINESS THAT THEY TAKE CARE OF TO. AND IT'S JUST GREAT TO SEE SOMEBODY FLOURISH IN THIS COMMUNITY HERE. AND UNTIL RECENTLY, I DIDN'T KNOW ALL THOSE PROPERTIES WAS A LOT OF THEM WERE STILL IN THE COUNTY OVER THERE, BUT THEY DO A GREAT JOB AND I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT TOO. AND THE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT WE'RE FRIENDS WITH ARE IN SUPPORT OF IT TOO. IN THE AUTOMOTIVE AND THE TOWING BUSINESS, GOOD, REPUTABLE COMPANY. MARK'S A GREAT GUY TOO. WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL TOO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT? ALRIGHT. HEARING NONE, LET ME GO BACK. AUSTIN. THIS IS THE FIRST READING, BUT IS IT VOTE ELIGIBLE TONIGHT? YES, SIR. IT IS, IT IS OKAY. THE PLANNING AND ZONING VOTED SIX ZERO TO APPROVE IT. CORRECT. DID YOU GET ANY PHONE CALLS IN THE OFFICE? NO PHONE CALLS. ALL RIGHT. IF NO OTHER QUESTIONS, THEN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AS TO THE APPROVAL OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO MOVED. ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. MOTION IS CARRIED. YEAH. NO YOU DIDN'T. OH YOU STILL ALRIGHT AUSTIN.

NEXT ONE. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS A SHORT TERM RENTAL APPLICATION AT 120. ROY STALLINGS, THE APPLICANT, IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO OPERATE A SHORT TERM RENTAL BUSINESS ON A PLUS MINUS ONE ACRE PARCEL ZONED SUBURBAN MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL BOARD OF ZONING DENIED THIS APPLICATION SIX ZERO. IF APPROVED, WE WOULD LIKE THE COMMISSIONERS TO GO AHEAD AND CONSIDER PUTTING THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS ON THIS APPROVAL. IF APPROVED, MUST OBTAIN THE PROPER BUSINESS LICENSE TO OPERATE A SHORT TERM VACATION RENTAL. NO AMPLIFIED SOUNDS OUTSIDE OF 10 P.M. ANY PROPOSED DEVIATIONS FROM APPROVED SITE PLAN MUST BE SUBMITTED AND APPROVED BY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. NO PARKING ON THE RIGHT OF WAY. SIGNAGE MUST MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF TROUP COUNTY SIGN ORDINANCE. EXTERIOR LIGHTING SHALL BE DESIGNED TO PREVENT SPILLOVERS ONTO ADJACENT PROPERTY. SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL STAFF AND PUBLIC AGENCY COMMENTS. THE OWNERS AGREE TO USE HIS OR HER BEST EFFORTS TO ENSURE THAT THE PREMISE BY SHORT TERM RENTAL VACATION RENTAL OCCUPANTS WILL NOT DISRUPT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH THE RIGHTS OF NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS TO THE QUIET ENJOYMENT OF THEIR PROPERTIES, PROVIDED A COPY OF AN EXEMPLAR AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE OWNER AND THE OCCUPANTS, WHICH OBLIGATE THE OCCUPANT TO ABIDE BY ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SECTION AND THE COUNTY ORDINANCES, STATE AND FEDERAL LAW, AND THAT SUCH A VIOLATION OF ANY OF THESE RULES MAY RESULT IN THE IMMEDIATE TERMINATION OF THE AGREEMENT AND EVICTION FROM THE PREMISES, AS WELL AS A POTENTIAL LIABILITY FOR PAYMENT OF FINES LEVIED. PROVIDE A PROOF OF HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE, MUST PROVIDE CONTACT INFORMATION AND ABIDE BY THE ENTIRETY OF SECTION 7.6.

COMMERCIAL USES 15 A SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. THE COMMENTS FROM STAFF THAT WE HAD PLANNING AND ZONING RECOMMENDED THE APPROVAL OF THE. THE TWO OCCUPANTS PER BEDROOM, WITH THE TWO ADDITIONAL GUESTS. A TOTAL OF EIGHT GUESTS PER RENTAL PERIOD. THE FIRE MARSHAL REQUESTED THAT THEY SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL FIRE LIFE SAFETY CODES AND TROUP COUNTY ORDINANCE, AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT SAID THE SEPTIC TANK WAS APPROVED AND THEY WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO ALSO APPLY WITH ALL 2024 ERC POOL CODE. AUSTIN. I'M TRYING TO. PULL MY PICTURE UP HERE. YOU SAID IT'D BE EIGHT. YES. IS THE PARKING EQUIVALENT FOR THREE CARS? I

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ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. IF NOT, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. WE GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR IN OPPOSITION TO A REZONING TO PLEASE COME FORWARD. SO I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP. IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME FORWARD.

IF YOU'LL JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS DAN SIMMONS AND I LIVE AT 141 CREEK RIDGE DRIVE. I'M A LOCAL REAL ESTATE AGENT HERE, AND I'M STANDING HERE ALONGSIDE WITH NEIGHBORS WHO WANT TO RAISE YOUR HANDS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAND UP IN OPPOSITION OF THIS SHORT TERM RENTAL AT 120 ROY STALLINGS.

WE'VE HAD A COUPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND A FEW YEARS BACK, OWNED BY OUT OF TOWN PEOPLE. BUT I'M GOING TO SPEAK FROM THE REAL ESTATE PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE SPEAKING FROM OTHER PERSPECTIVES. SO THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING IS DESIGNED TO PROTECT THE PEACE, THE LONG TERM LONG TERM STABILITY AND QUIET ENJOYMENT OF OUR PERMANENT RESIDENTS. LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 22 YEARS. OUR STREETS ARE FILLED WITH FAMILIES AND PREDOMINANTLY RETIREES ON FIXED INCOMES, CONVERTING 120 ROY STALLINGS INTO A REVOLVING DOOR OF TRANSIENT GUESTS SHIFTS THE PROPERTY FROM RESIDENTIAL USE TO A COMMERCIAL LODGING BUSINESS. THIS OPENS THE DOOR FOR MORE INVESTORS TO OVERPAY FOR PROPERTIES CAUSING ARTIFICIAL INFLATION OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS FAIR MARKET VALUES, WHICH TRIGGERS THE TAX ASSESSORS TO ANALYZE RECENT SALES AND RAISE PROPERTY TAXES.

THIS CREATES AN UNJUST, HEAVY TAX BURDEN FOR THE LONG TERM FIXED INCOME RESIDENTS ON OUR STREET WHO'LL BE FORCED TO PAY HIGHER PROPERTY TAX ON ARTIFICIAL HOME VALUES, DRIVEN BY SHORT TERM RENTAL NEXT DOOR. THIS HAPPENS IN ATLANTA ALL THE TIME. THAT'S HOW THEY MOVE PEOPLE OUT. THEY RAISE THEIR TAXES. ANOTHER EFFECT IS TO BRING THE OVERALL APPEAL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DOWN, BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE A SHORT TERM RENTAL BUSINESS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD,

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I KNOW THAT THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE WAS, I GUESS, CLASSIFIED SHORT TERM RENTAL IN THE ZONING LAWS IN 23. IT'S BEEN AMENDED IN 24 TO CAUSE STRICTER RULES, AND IT'S BEEN AMENDED IN 25. AND THE STATE OF GEORGIA HAS EVEN RECOGNIZED THERE'S A STATEWIDE ANTI-TRAFFICKING MANDATE THAT THEY HAVE TO DO. THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED IN JULY. IN CLOSING, I'M NOT AGAINST PROPERTY OWNERS RIGHTS, BUT THOSE RIGHTS SHOULDN'T COME AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY PIECE AND RISING PROPERTY VALUES. THIS PROPOSAL BRINGS COMMERCIAL DISRUPTION INTO A SPACE MEANT FOR FAMILIES. FOR THIS REASON, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THE BOARD TO UPHOLD THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE ZONING BOARD UNANIMOUS DECISION TO DENY THE SHORT TERM RENTAL PERMIT FOR 120 ROTHSTEIN'S. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS. MY NAME IS PAM MURPHY. I LIVE AT 49 WOODING PLACE. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY HUSBAND OF 40 YEARS, MIKE MURPHY, AND THE RESIDENTS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ARE HERE TO FORMALLY OPPOSE THE SHORT TERM RENTAL PERMIT APPLICATION FOR 120 STALLINGS ROAD, SUBMITTED BY MEGAN HUBBARD. AND AS SHE SAID BEFORE, I JUST LIKE TO REITERATE, THIS IS NOT PERSONAL. THIS IS ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS A QUIET, COHESIVE, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY AND INTRODUCING A TRANSIENT LODGING BUSINESS DIRECTLY AFFECTS AND CONFLICTS THE SAFETY, CHARACTER AND ZONING INTENT OF OUR STREETS. AS NOTED ON THE TAX RECORD. 120 ROY STALLINGS ROAD IS CONSIDERED A PART OF CREEK RIDGE SUBDIVISION. I MEAN, CREEK, RIDGE, CREEK RIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH I HAVE A COPY OF IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SEE. WE HAVE PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED THE DISRUPTION THAT SHORT TERM RENTALS CAN BRING TO AN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. OUR CONCERN IS SIMPLY NOT THAT A PROPERTY IS BEING RENTED, BUT THAT SHORT TERM GUEST OFTEN HAVE LITTLE CONNECTION TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR AWARENESS ON HOW THEIR ACTIONS AFFECT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE EVERY DAY. YOU TRULY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE NEGATIVE IMPACT UNTIL YOU HAVE LIVED IT.

AND I HAVE. MY HUSBAND AND I AND OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE LIVED IT. WHAT MAY APPEAR ON PAPER TO BE A SIMPLE RENTAL AGREEMENT CAN HAVE VERY REAL CONSEQUENCES FOR THE FAMILIES WHO LIVE NEARBY.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS ONE WHERE FAMILIES WALK REGULARLY. WE WALK DOWN ROY STALLINGS ROAD, AS WELL AS THE OTHER ROADS THAT ARE NEARBY, BECAUSE WE ARE A ONE IN AND ONE OUT NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND WE HAVE EXPERIENCED VEHICLES TRAVELING AT UNSAFE SPEEDS WITH LITTLE REGARDS FOR PEDESTRIANS. WE'VE ALSO HAD TRUCKS PULLING BOATS, BLOCK OUR DRIVEWAYS, DRIVE ONTO PRIVATE YARDS, DAMAGED GRASS AND RUN OVER SPRINKLER HEADS. THERE ARE SERIOUS CONCERNS CONCERNING OTHER PRIVATE PROPERTY SHORT TERM RENTALS GATHERED ON PRIVATE DOCKS AS THOUGH THEY WERE PUBLIC PROPERTY. IN SOME INSTANCES, WE'VE HAD TO TELL INDIVIDUALS THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE CONTACTED BEFORE THEY WOULD LEAVE. RESIDENTS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO CONFRONT UNRULY OR UNFAMILIAR GUESTS OR THREATENED POLICE INVOLVEMENT TO SIMPLY PROTECT THE USE AND PROPERTY PRIVACY OF OUR OWN PROPERTY. THE HUBBARDS DO NOT OWN. THEY DO OWN A DOCK

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I, I DIDN'T TRY TO GET IT CLEARED UP MYSELF. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME FORTH. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS STEVE HARRIS. I SENT AN EMAIL TO EACH ONE OF Y'ALL. DID DID THAT GET THROUGH? I NEVER KNOW HOW MY TECHNICAL SKILLS ARE GOING TO. YEAH. DISPLAYED. I WANT TO ADDRESS I WANT ADDRESS A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES RIGHT NOW. WHAT I DID WANT TO TALK ABOUT WAS HOW THIS LAND

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WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE. AND BY THE WAY, WE LOVE LAGRANGE. YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB AT RESTRICTING GROWTH DOWN HERE. WHERE WE CAME FROM UP IN CANADA. WE LEFT THERE BECAUSE OF THE JUST THE PACKED AREA THAT IT HAD BECOME AND IS GETTING WORSE AND WORSE. WE LOVE IT DOWN HERE.

BUT AS YOU COME IN THE AREA, ALL OF THIS IS JUST ONE RESIDENTIAL AREA. AS YOU COME TO THE FIRST STOP SIGN, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY, VERY FEW OF OUR PEOPLE EVER STOP AT BECAUSE WE'RE JUST. THAT'S OUR AREA. THIS AREA THAT'S THAT HAS THE REQUEST IS JUST OFF TO THE LEFT.

IT GOES. YOU HAVE TO GO UP OVER A HILL AND IT'S A. YOU CAN'T SEE THAT HOUSE FROM THAT PARTICULAR AREA. IT'S A BLIND DRIVEWAY THERE. THEIR HOUSE IS THE FIRST. THIS HOUSE WOULD BE THEIR FIRST HOUSE ON THE LEFT. AS YOU TOP THIS HILL AND THE BOAT RAMP OR THE BOAT DOCK FOR THIS PLACE IS ACROSS THE STREET. ANYBODY THAT WOUND UP RENTING IT OR LIVING THERE, AND ALL HAVE TO CROSS THE STREET TO EVEN GET TO THE LAKE. AND ONCE YOU GET TO THE LAKE, THAT'S ALL CORE PROPERTY. SO IT'S ALL PUBLIC PROPERTY. THERE'S NOTHING, NOTHING TO STOP PEOPLE FROM WALKING AND TRAVELING ALL THROUGH THERE. AND THAT'S IT'S JUST A BAD AREA FOR THIS PLACE TO WIND UP BEING IN. THERE'S ALL KIND OF SECURITY CONCERNS. WE JUST SPENT THIS PAST SATURDAY, 430, I THINK HAD TO TIME THE BALL GAMES, CLEANING UP A HOUSE JUST ALMOST NEXT DOOR TO THIS, WHERE A TREE HAD FALLEN AND AN OLD WOMAN LIVES IN THE PLACE AND SHE NEEDED THE HELP. AND THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ALL CAME TOGETHER AND PITCHED IN THERE FOR OUR GOLF CARTS UP THERE, CLEANED UP THE PLACE BECAUSE THE APPEARANCE OF THAT PLACE AFFECTS EVERYBODY. AND I CAN TELL YOU, MY WIFE AND I HAVE WALKED USED TO WALK ROY STALLINGS ALL, ALL THE TIME. THAT'S A THREE MILE LIMIT FOR US. AND AS WE TOP THAT HILL, RIGHT AS YOU'RE GETTING TO THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY ON, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE STREET, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE DEAD END, WHICH IS WHERE THE CORE PROPERTY IS AND WHERE FISHERMEN GO. BUT IT'S ALSO WHERE PEOPLE GO AND JUST PARK FOR WHO KNOWS. MY WIFE AND I HAVE SEEN ALL SORTS OF OF LITTER AND DEBRIS DOWN IN THAT AREA, AND WE JUST WON'T TRAVEL DOWN THERE WHEN WE'RE WALKING BECAUSE OF THE UN SETTLED NATURE OF JUST WHAT COULD HAPPEN TO US. USED TO CARRY A PISTOL WITH ME AS I WOULD WALK, AND THAT'S JUST NOT NECESSARY.

WE JUST DECIDED NOT TO WALK THERE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO POINT TO YOU THE EMAILS THAT I SENT YOU, WHICH ESTABLISHED THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB AT RESPECTING RESIDENTIAL AREAS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. WE DON'T WANT A COMMERCIAL AREA HERE, AND WE DON'T WANT THE INSTABILITY THAT IT CAUSES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS VICKI LAFEVERS AND I LIVE AT 45 WOODING PLACE. I CAME I DON'T HAVE MY NOTES, BUT I CAME RUNNING FROM WORK. I FIRSTHAND HAVE EXPERIENCED THE SHORT TERM. UNFORTUNATELY, MY HOUSE IS RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE FIRST

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TAKE A LEASE, DO A LEASE. THAT WAY THESE PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY. IF IT'S A FIVE YEAR LEASE OR WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN THEY GET TO KNOW US AND UNDERSTAND HOW WE LIVE HERE. AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE PREFER THE QUIET. WE, WE'VE WALKED DOWN THE, WE'VE WALKED THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH GARBAGE BAGS AND PICKED UP STUFF. YOU KNOW, IT'S CIGARETTE BUTTS AND CANS ON THE SIDE OF ON OUR SIDE OF THE ROAD. YOU KNOW WHERE I LIVE. IT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I WANT TO SAY. THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU. MA'AM.

ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? ALRIGHT. HEARING NONE, THEN THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYBODY WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS. YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME FORTH. JUST A QUICK REMINDER, IF YOU PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, TRAVIS AND MEGAN HUBBARD 120 ROY STALLINGS ROAD, GRANGE GRANGE, GEORGIA. YEAH, I'LL LET HER START. FIRST. WE'LL TAG TEAM. SO GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF OUR APPLICATION. I'M MEGAN HUBBARD, THIS IS TRAVIS, AND WE'RE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE OUR SHORT TERM RENTAL AT 120 ROY STALLINGS ROAD. I WANT TO START BY EXPLAINING WHY THIS HOUSE MATTERS SO MUCH TO OUR FAMILY. I GREW UP IN LAGRANGE. MY PARENTS, BERT AND VIDA HUNTER, MOVED HERE IN 1985, AND MY FAMILY HAS BEEN A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY EVER SINCE. I GRADUATED FROM LAGRANGE HIGH SCHOOL. MY PARENTS STILL LIVE HERE AND MY BROTHER STILL LIVES HERE AS WELL IN TROUP COUNTY. MY HUSBAND IS A RETIRED MARINE AND DURING HIS MILITARY CAREER, OUR FAMILY MOVED AROUND QUITE A BIT. WE LIVED ALL OVER OVERSEAS FOR SEVEN YEARS AS WELL, AND WHEN WE FINALLY CAME BACK TO THE STATES, WE CHOSE TO COME BACK TO LAGRANGE. WE CAME BACK TO LAGRANGE AND WANTED TO PUT ROOTS DOWN HERE. SO WE MOVED TO ROY STALLINGS ROAD IN 2018 AND WE LIVED AT 154 ROY STALLINGS ROAD FOR FIVE YEARS BEFORE WE PURCHASED THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR. WE HAD. WE HAD BEEN LOOKING AT THAT HOUSE FOR A LONG TIME. WE HAD PLANS TO BUILD A HOME IN THE CLOISTERS. WE BOUGHT TWO LOTS IN THE CLOISTERS. WE WERE GOING TO BUILD OUR DREAM LAKE HOME THERE AND COVID HAPPENED. SO WE. WE REALIZED IT WOULD BE CHEAPER TO RENOVATE A HOME THAN TO BUILD A HOME. AND THAT HOUSE NEXT DOOR WAS VACANT. 120 ROY STALLINGS WAS VACANT FOR ALMOST TEN YEARS, SO WHILE WE LIVED AT 154 OVERLOOKING THAT HOUSE, THE POOL WAS A FROG POND AND. WE EVENTUALLY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY IT. WE APPROACHED THE MAN WHO OWNED IT, AND IN FEBRUARY 2023 WE DID. WE SPENT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME AND MONEY BRINGING THAT PROPERTY BACK TO LIFE. WE REMOVE TREES, WE CLEANED UP THE PROPERTY, HAULED AWAY ROUGHLY SEVEN TONS OF TRASH. WE DIDN'T BUY IT BECAUSE WE SAW AN INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY. WE BOUGHT IT BECAUSE WE WANTED IT TO BE OUR HOME IN LAGRANGE. BEFORE WE PURCHASE THE HOUSE, WE HAD APPLIED FOR A LOTTERY BASED STATE CHARTER SCHOOL FOR OUR CHILDREN IN COBB COUNTY, AND WE WERE DENIED. SO WE WANTED TO EXPLORE THAT OPPORTUNITY BEFORE WE PURCHASED AND CLOSE ON THE HOUSE. AND WE DID. AND WE WERE REJECTED. BUT WE WERE GIVEN AN UNEXPECTED OPPORTUNITY. OUR CHILDREN WERE RETROACTIVELY OFFERED ADMISSION TWO MONTHS AFTER WE CLOSED ON THE PROPERTY, AND IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY WE COULDN'T PASS UP. THERE'S 1500 KIDS ON THE WAITING LIST. WE KNEW WE'D NEVER GET THIS OPPORTUNITY AGAIN IF WE SAID NO, WE COULD HAVE SOLD THIS HOUSE, BUT WE DIDN'T. IT KEEPS US CONNECTED TO OUR FAMILY AND

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OUR FAMILY USES IT, MY HUSBAND'S FAMILY USES IT AND IT HAS BECOME THE PLACE WHERE OUR FAMILY COMES TOGETHER. WE ARE NOT REAL ESTATE INVESTORS. WE DON'T OWN A PORTFOLIO OF RENTAL PROPERTIES. THIS IS OUR FAMILY HOME. BUT NOW WE ARE PAYING FOR TWO HOMES. WE'VE PURCHASED A HOME IN COBB COUNTY NOW, AND OUR BOYS ARE ENTERING THE EXPENSIVE YEARS OF HIGH SCHOOL, COLLEGE CARS AND EVERYTHING THAT COMES WITH THAT. SO WE'RE SIMPLY ASKING FOR THE ABILITY TO OCCASIONALLY RENT OUR HOME TO HELP OFFSET THE PROPERTY TAXES, THE INSURANCE, LAWN CARE, POOL MAINTENANCE. WE CAN'T BE THERE TO CUT OUR OWN GRASS. WE WANT IT TO BE NICE. WE'VE MAINTAINED LAWN CARE FROM A DISTANCE AND FULL MAINTENANCE FROM A DISTANCE, AND ANY OF THE OTHER COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH KEEPING IT. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TURN THIS INTO A BUSINESS OR A HIGH TURNOVER RENTAL PROPERTY, WHICH THE ORDINANCE PREVENTS ANYWAYS. WE ARE SIMPLY JUST TRYING TO COVER SOME EXPENSES OF HAVING IT. WE WANT TO KEEP THIS HOUSE, WE TAKE CARE OF IT, AND ULTIMATELY WE WANT TO RETURN AFTER OUR CHILDREN HAVE COMPLETED THEIR EDUCATION. I'M ASKING YOU TO ALLOW US TO DO THAT RESPONSIBLY. UNDER THE COUNTY'S SHORT TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS. WE HAVE ALSO SPOKEN WITH ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS WHOSE PROPERTY BORDER OUR PROPERTY AND ALSO ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR PROPERTY, AND THEY HAVE SIGNED A PETITION IN FAVOR. WE SPOKE WITH THEM BEFORE WE EVEN PUT IN AN APPLICATION. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS OKAY WITH THEM. ONE OF. I'VE KNOWN OUR NEIGHBORS FOR 20 SOMETHING YEARS. THE. WE SOLD OUR PREVIOUS HOME TO MY BEST FRIEND IN HIGH SCHOOL SO SHE COULD LIVE NEXT TO HER PARENTS, WHO LIVE BEHIND 120 ROY STALLINGS AND THEN HER AUNT AND UNCLE ON THE HOME ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO WE'VE KNOWN THEM FOR MANY YEARS, AND THEY ARE COMFORTABLE WITH US DOING THIS.

THEY'D RATHER US DO THIS INSTEAD OF SELL SO THAT THEY WOULD NOT. THEY WOULDN'T KNOW WHO LIVED THERE. I'LL LET YOU GO ON FROM THERE. THANK YOU. BOARD. I JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY ADDRESS WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY ASKING THE COUNTY TO APPROVE. YOU CAN HEAR ME. TROUP COUNTY CREATED SPECIFIC ORDINANCE FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS BECAUSE THE COUNTY RECOGNIZES THERE CAN BE CONCERNS ABOUT NOISE, ABOUT PARKING, OCCUPANCY, PARTIES, TRASH AND NEIGHBORHOOD DISRUPTION. I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR. I DON'T DISMISS ANY OF THOSE CONCERNS. THE COUNTY DIDN'T SIMPLY IDENTIFY THOSE CONCERNS AND PROHIBIT EVERY SHORT TERM RENTAL. IT'S CREATED A REGULATORY SYSTEM, WHICH WE'RE GOING THROUGH NOW. THE ORDINANCE REGULATES OCCUPANCY.

IT REGULATES PARKING, IT REGULATES NOISE. IT PROHIBITS PARTIES AND SPECIAL EVENTS. IT REQUIRES A LOCAL CONTACT WHO CAN RESPOND TO PROBLEMS. IT MAKES THE OWNER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONDUCT OF THE GUESTS. THE ORDINANCE ALSO PROVIDES FINES AND ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS WHEN VIOLATIONS DO OCCUR. AND IMPORTANTLY, THIS APPLICATION WAS REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY STAFF. THE STAFF RECOMMENDED THE APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITIONS ADDRESSING THINGS LIKE THE PARKING, LIKE THE NIGHT LIGHTING, LIKE THE NOISE, THE GUEST OCCUPANCY INSURANCE GUEST AGREEMENT, AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE COUNTY SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS NOT FOR AN UNREGULATED VACATION RENTAL, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR A REGULATED USE THAT THE COUNTY HAS SPECIFICALLY CREATED A PROCESS FOR. I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME THINGS THAT MIGHT HAVE CAUSED SOME CONFUSION TONIGHT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTED BY THE OPPOSITION PETITION. THERE APPEARS TO BE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOW THIS AREA IS BEING DESCRIBED BY SOME OF THE PETITIONERS AND HOW THE COUNTY IDENTIFIES THE ACTUAL PROPERTY. SO THE COUNTY PARCEL RECORDS IDENTIFY OUR PROPERTY AS CULPEPPER LOT THREE, WHILE SEPARATELY USING A NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGNATION THAT REFERENCES CREEK RIDGE SLASH ROY STALLINGS.

THAT'S COUNTY PARCEL RECORD CITATION PACKET, PAGE 102. SO I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO SETTLE A NEIGHBORHOOD LABEL DISPUTE TONIGHT. I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO EVALUATE THE ACTUAL PROPERTY, THE ACTUAL PARCEL, AND THE ACTUAL IMPACT OF THIS APPLICATION. I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER WHO'S ACTUALLY CLOSEST TO THE PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHOSE HOMES, WHOSE HOMES DIRECTLY BORDER OURS HAVE PROVIDED WRITTEN SUPPORT FOR OUR APPLICATION. AS MY WIFE STATED, THEY'VE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND THAT THEY SUPPORT IT. I ALSO THINK THE BOARD SHOULD CONSIDER WHETHER EVERYONE WHO SIGNED THE OPPOSITION PETITION UNDERSTOOD EXACTLY WHAT PROPERTY THEY WERE BEING ASKED TO OPPOSE, AND EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING. WE NEVER HEARD FROM ANY OF THEM.

ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS IS HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE SHE PERSONALLY FELT SHE HAD NOT BEEN GIVEN AN ACCURATE UNDERSTANDING OF THE APPLICATION WHEN THE PETITION WAS PRESENTED TO HER. I'LL LET HER EXPLAIN FOR HERSELF. GOOD EVENING. SO IF YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD,

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THAT'S OKAY. SO SO ARE YOU GOING TO BE MORE LIKE EYES ON. OKAY. THAT'S UNUSUAL ONES.

WE'VE HAD COME BEFORE. THEY'VE NEVER HAD EYES ON SOMEBODY HAVING EYES ON IT. SO THAT'S INTERESTING ON THAT ON THAT NOTE, THAT BOAT ACCESS THE OR THE LAKE ACCESS AT THE END OF ROY STALLINGS ROAD, LIKE THEY MENTIONED BEFORE, THE THINGS YOU FIND DOWN THERE, I'VE GOT TWO YOUNG BOYS AND WE GO ON WALKS AND ALL THE TIME DRUG PARAPHERNALIA, CLOTHES, CONDOMS, I MEAN, JUST A LIFT DOWN THERE. SO WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS THAT TOO AT SOME POINT BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S A HUGE PROBLEM ALREADY. SO I, I THINK THE PRICE POINT ON A, ON A RENTAL LIKE THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO KEEP OUT RIFFRAFF REALLY, IT'LL PROBABLY IMPROVE. SO I THINK THAT'S ALL I CAN OFFER. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. YEAH, I DO REMEMBER I THINK I CALLED YOUR OFFICE MR. JONES, WHEN WE MOVED INTO 154 STALLINGS ABOUT THE END OF ROY STALLINGS ROAD. AND WE CONTACTED THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND WE USED TO CALL THEM FITBIT. AND THERE'S ONLY FIVE SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES, AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU GUYS AS COMMISSIONERS COULD DO BECAUSE IT'S A PROPERTY FOR YOUR PROPERTY. SO IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT. AND THERE'S 12

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YOU KNOW, MR. MISS HUBBARD, I'M HEARING YOUR SIDE. AND AM I HEARING THE OTHER SIDE? IF Y'ALL HAD A COMMUNITY TYPE LITTLE GET TOGETHER OUT THERE AND EXPLAIN TO THE OTHER SIDE WHAT YOUR INTENTIONS ARE ABOUT YOUR HOME. WE DID NOT SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THE RESIDENTS OF CREEK RIDGE, EXCEPT FOR THE ONES I KNEW PERSONALLY. I WOULD CALL AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT.

SOME OF THEM I CALLED AFTER THEY. THE PETITION HAD COME THROUGH AND THEY WERE REGRETFUL OF SIGNING THE PETITION, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T WANT TO PUT THE NEIGHBORS AGAINST EACH OTHER. IT'S REALLY. I'M NOT. BUT I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT COMING TOGETHER AND AND EXPLAINING. WE DID FOR OUR END OF THE STREET. OKAY. FOR EVERYONE WHO LIVES AT THE END OF STALLINGS, WE SPOKE TO ALL Y'ALL DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER IT WAS GOING TO AFFECT THE CREEKSIDE. WE DIDN'T EXPECT IT TO BECAUSE THEY DON'T DRIVE BY OUR HOUSE. THEY CAN'T SEE OUR HOUSE WHEN THEY GO TO THEIR HOMES. WE'RE NOT INSIDE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DAY. THERE IS A DOCK AND THE TAYLOR'S HIS IN-LAWS ON THE ONE NEXT TO IT, AND THE CLARKES OWN THE ONE ON THE OTHER SIDE AS WELL. SO THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THE DOCKS ON EITHER SIDE HAVE SIGNED THE PETITION FOR APPROVAL. OH, ACTUALLY, ALL FOUR OF THOSE DOCKS, BECAUSE THE OTHER ONES ARE. IS THAT MR. JERRY'S ONE OF THOSE? NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO JUST THE THREE. JUST THE THREE.

YEAH. THE THIRD ONES. THE ONES IN THE MIDDLE. OURS IS RIGHT. THE SMALLEST ONE. WE'RE NOT OFF TO THE RIGHT OF IT. AND MR. JERRY'S IS OFF TO THE LEFT. AND THE BARNES IS RIGHT THERE. I WAS NOTICING YOUR RENTAL AGREEMENT. YES, YOU. AND AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT FOLLOWED THE ORDINANCE PRETTY MUCH. AND YOU'VE GOT SOME THINGS IN THERE THAT THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T REQUIRE. BUT I WAS JUST LOOKING IS ARE YOU GOING TO IS IT GOING TO RERENTED BY A THIRD PARTY? WILL. IN OTHER WORDS, I SAY A SIGNATURE AT THE END OF THIS. WILL THEY ACTUALLY GET SIGNED? THIS AGREEMENT FOR EACH OCCUPANT TO SIGN THE RENTAL AGREEMENT. SO AN OCCUPANT HAS TO SIGN THE RENTAL AGREEMENT IN ORDER TO BE THERE. AND THE OTHER THING ABOUT AN ORDINANCE, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW WHEN IT'S THE NEXT PART OF ITS ENFORCEMENT, RIGHT. AND SO HEARING FROM YOUR NEIGHBOR THAT IS WATCHING OVER, THAT'S REAL GOOD. BUT ERIC, AS FAR AS WHEN THE SHORT TERM, I GUESS IN 2024, I GUESS, IS THAT HOW IS THAT ENFORCED? IN OTHER WORDS, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IT'S IF A TICKET, A CITATION KEP UP WITH THE. IN OTHER WORDS, IF THE DIFFERENT. I THINK IT'S THREE. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. WE WE ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THIS LAST WEEK AND ACTUALLY CREATED SOME ADDITIONAL MEASURES TO HELP US KEEP UP WITH THAT. AND IF WE'LL, I'LL LET AUSTIN COME UP AND KIND OF ADDRESS THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF THE ORDINANCE AND SORT OF THE ACCOUNTABILITY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. SO THERE IS AN ENFORCEMENT SECTION IN OUR SHORT TERM VACATION RENTAL ORDINANCE IN THE FORM OF FINES. IF THEY DO VIOLATE THE ORDINANCE IN ANY TYPE OF WAY. OF COURSE, THE BIGGEST THING IS HOW DO WE KEEP TRACK OF IT? HOW DO WE KNOW? SO I DID SPEAK WITH WITH ZACH AND LIZ AND KIND OF IN THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE GOT TOGETHER AND CREATED A SYSTEM WHERE WE CURRENTLY HAVE 11 SHORT TERM RENTALS HERE IN UNINCORPORATED TROUP COUNTY. SO WHAT WE DID IS WE WENT THROUGH AND TAGGED EACH OF THOSE RENTALS IN OUR CAD SYSTEM, OUR E911 SYSTEM, AND WE'RE ABLE TO NOW GO THROUGH AND PULL REPORTS, WHICH I'VE STARTED DOING EVERY WEDNESDAY, JUST GOING IN THERE AND PULL REPORTS ON THOSE SPECIFIC TO SEE IF THEY'VE HAD ANY TYPE OF CALLS OUT THERE THAT WOULD VIOLATE OUR ORDINANCE. AND IF THERE IS A CALL OUT THERE AT A SPECIFIC ADDRESS, WHATEVER ONE IT MAY BE, WE THEN GIVE THAT OVER TO THE MARSHALS. THE MARSHALS GO OUT THERE AND AND WRITE A CITATION FOR IT. SO IF IT'S SO, IF IT'S AFTER HOURS, AFTER 5 OR 9 ONE CALLS PLACED IN MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT THEY'RE REGISTERED IN THE CAD ITSELF, THERE'S A, THERE'S A FLAG OR THERE'S A, A BANNER IN, IN CAD THAT DELINEATES THAT IT'S A SHORT TERM VACATION RENTAL. AND SO WHEN THE DEPUTY GOES OUT THERE AND THERE IS A NOTIFICATION MADE, THEN WHEN HE RESPONDS IT, IT FLAGS IN CAD AND, AND CREATES REPORTS THAT WILL BE DOWNLOADED EVERY WEDNESDAY BY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT THAT WE CAN THEN TURN AROUND TO THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE OUT TO ACTUALLY WRITE A CITATION TO THE COUNTY ORDINANCE. REMEMBER, DID WE PUT IN THOSE SHORT TERM RENTALS THAT IF THEY VIOLATE THE ORDINANCE THAT THEY COULD THAT

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THAT CONTACT WOULD THEN RECEIVE THE THE CITATION. AS FAR AS AS THAT STUFF WOULD GO. AND THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE ONE BY ORDINANCE, THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT. THAT IS WITHIN UNINCORPORATED TROUP COUNTY THAT CAN RESPOND QUICKLY TO ANY TYPE OF DISTURBANCES. OF COURSE, THE TIME, RESPONSE TIME, WHAT IS IT? AS IN, DO WE HAVE IT DOWN IN THE MINUTES OR HOW WAS IT? AS FAR AS RESPONSE TIME IS FOR SOMEBODY TO GET THERE, THEY HAD TO GET ON. THERE'S A PROBLEM THERE. THERE'S A PROBLEM THERE. THAT'S BASICALLY HOW QUICKLY THE THE DEPUTY CAN GET THERE TO, TO DO IT. THAT'S THAT'S ALL BASED ON RESPONSE TIME FOR FOR 911. BUT IF YOU'RE SPEAKING OF RESPONSE TIME IS I THOUGHT THERE WAS A, I THOUGHT THERE WAS RESPONSE TIME TO THE INDIVIDUAL WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE, THE AGENT OR WHATEVER THAT'S HERE IN TROUP COUNTY.

NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THAT'S NOT. THEY WOULD RECEIVE A CITATION AND THEN WOULD HAVE TO REPORT TO COURT SO THAT. THAT'S HOW THAT PROCESS WOULD GO. THAT WOULD BE THE RESPONSE CITATION WOULD GO TO THAT AGENT, RIGHT? YES. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, CITATION COMES WITH. GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT ANOTHER RABBIT HOLE REAL QUICK OF THE THE 11 THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS, HAVE YOU HAD ANY COMPLAINTS? I HAVEN'T HAD THOSE SINCE I STARTED IN DECEMBER 10TH OF. STARTING WHEN I START, WHEN I STARTED DECEMBER 10TH, 2025, I HAVE NOT HAD ANY TYPE OF COMPLAINTS COME THROUGH THE OFFICE FOR ANY TYPE OF SHORT TERM VACATION RENTAL, ONE THAT IS ON OUR BOOKS, I KNOW I, I HEARD OUR ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN THAT YOU CANNOT HAVE ONCE A SHORT TERM VACATION RENTAL IS APPROVED, YOU CAN'T HAVE ANOTHER ONE WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THAT SHORT TERM VACATION RENTAL. SO ONES THAT ARE PERMITTED AND LEGAL, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY COME THROUGH. WE DO TYPICALLY A COUPLE TIMES A YEAR. WE SEARCH THE DATABASES FOR AIRBNB, VRBO AND LOOK FOR OTHER ONES THAT ARE OUT. AND SO A LOT OF TIMES ONES THAT COME BEFORE

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I RUN CHECKS NOW EVERY MONTH ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF THE MONTH, OUR PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT SITS DOWN AND WE RUN AIRBNB CHECKS AGAINST THE ONES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, ANY OF THE ONES THAT WE FIND THAT DON'T HAVE A CURRENT BUSINESS LICENSE OR HAVEN'T GOTTEN RESPONSE OR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. WE DO SEND LETTERS OUT TO TO HAVE THEM CEASE OPERATIONS, COME IN, FLY, AND COME BEFORE THE BOARD IN ORDER TO GET APPROVED. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO JAMES, YOU MAY KNOW THIS. I DON'T SAY IF THIS AIRBNB WAS APPROVED TONIGHT AND YOU SAID IT CAN'T BE ANOTHER ONE A HALF MILE FROM THAT POINT. THAT NEARLY COVERS THAT WHOLE AREA, DOESN'T IT? YES. SO IF THERE'S ONE AIRBNB GOES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS SET WITH THAT ONE, AND ANOTHER ONE CAN'T COME IN LIKE WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. THAT'S CORRECT. WE OUR ORDINANCE IS NOTHING COULD A HALF MILE. OKAY. CAN CAN BE INTERESTED IN THAT BLOCKS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OUT COMPLETELY. MA'AM. OKAY. ONE HALF MILE. I'M PULLING A MEASUREMENT NOW FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW WE'D MEASURE THAT. WE MAY NEED TO NEED TO LOOK A LITTLE CLOSER AT EXACTLY HOW THAT ORDINANCE READS. BUT HALF A MILE IS ALMOST TO THE END OF THE CUL DE SAC. ON IS THAT CREEK RIDGE DRIVE. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND. ARE YOU GOING TO FIND OUT? IS IT THE WAY THE CROW FLIES OR ROAD MILE? YEAH. TAKE A HALF MILE RADIUS. THE CROW FLIES. THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN A HALF A MILE. I WAS JUST ASKING BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH IN THE PAST. ALRIGHT, SO LET ME GO BACK. DOES ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT? YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME FORTH.

WELL, I'M I'M SORRY, DID I GIVE THE OWNERS DID I KNOW WE KIND OF BROUGHT SOME SPEAKERS UP? SO DID I GIVE YOU THE TIME THAT YOU NEEDED? I GOT A QUESTION AFTER OUR LAST QUARTER. LET'S SEE. YOU GOT A QUESTION FOR THEM TO ASK HIM A QUESTION. OKAY. WHY DON'T YOU COME UP AND I'LL LET THE COMMISSIONER ASK YOU A QUESTION. THEN I'LL. SO ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT? BE CLEAR IN YOUR VOICE AND BE PREPARED. I'LL CALL YOU IN JUST A MINUTE. YES, SIR. IF THIS BOARD APPROVES THIS, IT'S GOING TO CAUSE TURMOIL IN THAT SUBDIVISION. IF THIS BOARD DENIES THIS, IT'S GOING TO CAUSE TURMOIL IN THAT SUBDIVISION. YES. EITHER WAY.

BUT NOW I'M PUTTING MYSELF IN YOUR SHOES. IF I WAS IN YOUR SHOES, I WOULD GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION BECAUSE THAT TURMOIL WAS GOING TO BE THERE FOR YEARS TO COME. WELL, NOT ON OUR END OF THE STREET WITH OUR NEIGHBORS THAT WE'VE KNOWN FOR 20 YEARS. WE WE HAVE WE DIDN'T GO INSIDE OF CREEK RIDGE AND ASK THEM TO SIGN OUR PETITION BECAUSE WE DIDN'T THINK IT AFFECTED THEM. THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN NAIVE, NOT IN PART. WE'RE NOT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE'RE NOT IN CREEK RIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU TURN ONTO. ROY STALLINGS ROAD, AND THAT RUNS INTO ROY STALLINGS ROAD PROPER. I SUPPOSE YOU GO RIGHT, MAKE ANOTHER LEFT, AND THEN YOU'RE IN CREEK. I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND THE LAY OF THE ROAD. YES, SIR. BUT BUT IT'S IT'S A POSSIBILITY. IT'S GOING TO CAUSE TURMOIL WITHIN THAT AREA. I THINK THAT A SHORT TERM RENTAL ANYWHERE COULD CAUSE TURMOIL. OH, I AGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE SEEN THE EFFECTS OF THEM. YOUR ORDINANCE PROTECTS AGAINST ALL OF THOSE, BUT I I'M STILL NO MATTER WHAT THE ORDINANCE IS, IT'S STILL GOING TO IF IT'S APPROVED, IT'S GOING TO COST HER MORE. IF IT'S DENIED, IT'S GOING TO COST HER MORE. I THINK I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER IS TRYING TO SAY IS IT'S GOING TO BE THE ATTITUDE TOWARD THE PEOPLE. YEAH. IN THAT AREA IT THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S A SAD THING. AND WE AND I'VE HAD THEM BEFORE ON PLANNING AND ZONING. WHEN I, WHEN I WAS ON PLANNING AND ZONING, THE INDIVIDUALS WOULD GET TO THIS POINT, UNDERSTAND IT AND TURN AROUND AND DO A LONG TERM LEASE. IT'S NOT AN OPTION FOR US. I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, BUT I'M JUST AND I AND I'M JUST TELLING YOU THE WAY I WOULD BE IN THIS SITUATION, I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO TO THE SURROUNDING AREAS OVER A LONG TERM. IF IT WAS ME, I WOULD FIND ANOTHER. I WOULD FIND A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. HOW MANY ARE Y'ALL STILL GOING TO COME THANKSGIVING AND CHRISTMAS? STILL DO. AND HAVE FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS. SO OUT OF A YEAR, HOW MANY? BECAUSE PROBABLY IN THAT AREA, THE ONLY TIME YOU'RE GOING TO DO A SHORT TERM LEASE IS IN THE PRETTY THE SUMMER MONTHS, AS YOU MIGHT SAY. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO MAYBE A COUPLE WEEKENDS A MONTH IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. BUT YOUR ORDINANCE, I'M STILL CONFUSED ABOUT THE ORDINANCE. ONE SECTION SAYS IT ONLY ALLOWS 92 DAYS A YEAR FOR

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WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE A BUCK. SO, YEAH. DO YOU WANT ME TO? YOU HAVE TO CONTINUE. ALRIGHT.

WELL, ALRIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. BASED ON THE NUMBER OF DAYS QUESTION, IF THE HOUSE THAT IS APPROVED FOR AN AIRBNB IS OWNER OCCUPIED, THAT'S WHEN THE 172 DAYS KICKS IN THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO RENT IT FOR. IF IT IS HOMEOWNER OCCUPIED, IT IS NOT HOMEOWNER OCCUPIED. YOU DO HAVE 90 DAYS, 92 DAYS THAT YOU CAN RENT IT OUT. THERE'S A STIPULATION IN THERE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT HOMEOWNER OCCUPIED IN THIS CERTAIN SITUATION. IT'D BE 92 DAYS WHO KEEPS UP TO 90 DAYS. IT IS A HARD ONE TO ENFORCE. YEAH, VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE AIRBNB DOES NOT NECESSARILY THAT FALLS ON THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY GOING TO ENFORCE THAT 90 DAYS. THERE.

THERE IS A HOTEL MOTEL TAX THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY LOOK INTO TO SEE HOW MANY DAYS AND EQUATE IT TO HOW MANY DAYS THEY RENTED IT OUT. NOT SAYING IT WOULD BE EASY TO DO, BUT IT COULD BE DONE. IT'S DIFFICULT. ALL RIGHT, I KNOW I HAVE SOMEONE ELSE THAT WOULD RAISE THEIR HAND, WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT. SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORTH AND AUSTIN, ONE ONE QUICK QUESTION.

AS FAR AS THE ORDINANCE READS RIGHT NOW, DO THEY MEET EVERY CRITERIA IN THAT ORDINANCE AS FAR AS THIS ORDINANCE READS CURRENTLY? YES THEY DO. I THINK THAT'S THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION. I THINK WE'VE SPENT A QUITE A AMOUNT OF TIME HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REGULATE THE REGULATION THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. I MEAN, WE HAVE A REGULATION IN PLACE THAT WE SPENT MONTHS, IF NOT A COUPLE OF YEARS, TRYING TO MODIFY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE NUISANCE IN THE COMMUNITIES. WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE HAVING CRAZY PARTIES. AND I'VE BEEN HERE NOW FIVE YEARS ALMOST. AND, AND WE SPENT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME ON MAKING SURE THAT THIS ORDINANCE PROTECTS OUR COMMUNITY. SO I'M VERY CONFUSED AS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF MAKING A DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD, BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE TO ADDRESS ALL THE CONCERNS THAT CITIZENS MAY HAVE. I JUST WANT TO KIND OF THROW THAT OUT THERE. YEAH. SO CAN WE MOVE FORWARD AND GET OUR FINAL PEOPLE? LET ME I'VE GOT ONE MORE THING THAT'S RAISED HIS HAND. IF LET ME LISTEN FOR HIM AND THEN WE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION. YES, SIR. MY NAME IS TERRY STAFFORD. 212 EAST MEADOW WAY. HOW Y'ALL DOING TONIGHT AGAIN? I'VE BEEN WATCHING THIS FOR YEARS. YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 3 OR 4 YEARS NOW. IS THAT RIGHT. SO WE CONTINUE PUTTING ALL OF THESE RESTRAINTS ON THESE CITIZENS THAT OWN THEIR PROPERTY. IT BECOMES A TIME THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT OVERBURDENED WHEN THE GOVERNMENT IS OVER CLOUDING EVERYBODY THAT OWNS A PROPERTY AND WHEN THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING. I AGREE, WHENEVER YOU SET THESE ORDINANCES, I WOULDN'T WANT ANYBODY TO LIVE AROUND ME. IT WAS CAUSING PROBLEMS. AT THE SAME TIME, YOU HAVE TO GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO SHOW THAT THEY CAN MANAGE. THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES HERE IN OUR TOWN THAT ARE NOT GOOD AT MANAGING THEIR PROBLEMS AND THEIR ISSUES, AND THERE'S A LOT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, A LOT OF RESOURCES ARE USED. MY QUESTION IS WHEN THOSE WHEN THOSE BUSINESSES DO NOT DO WHAT'S RIGHT, DO WE FIND THOSE BUSINESSES LIKE THE MARINAS HAD A LOT OF ISSUES. A LOT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT SHOWED UP OVER THE YEARS. WHEN THERE'S ISSUES OUT AT PINE ROAD PARK, THE COUNTY OWNS THAT. DO WE FIND WHO IS PUTTING THE PARTY ON OR PUTTING ON THE EVENT? WHERE DO WE SIT THIS IF WE'RE ONLY DOING IT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT OWNS THEIR OWN AIRBNBS? I'VE SEEN A LOT OF COMPLAINTS THAT WERE FILED ON A LOT OF OTHER RESIDENTS THAT WERE NOT VALID COMPLAINTS. IT WAS RETALIATION, AND I'VE SEEN IT ON BOTH SIDES. I'VE SEEN SOME REAL GOOD COMPLAINTS. I'VE SEEN SOME REAL BAD COMPLAINTS. AND WHO ARE WHO'S GOING TO VALIDATE THESE COMPLAINTS. ARE WE GOING TO USE VIDEO OR ARE WE GOING TO USE WHAT THEY SEE WHEN

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THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES HERE THAT YOU GOT TO LOOK AT, AND OUR COUNTY IS A NICE COUNTY, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A LARGE LAKE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO COME DOWN AND ENJOY. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT I THINK IT'D BE A GREAT ADD ON. EVERYTHING THESE PEOPLE HAVE DONE OVER THE YEARS. I'VE DEALT WITH THEM PERSONALLY. I'VE SEEN THEM IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT AVENUES AND THEY. THEY OPERATE REAL PROFESSIONAL AT ALL TIMES. I JUST WANT FAIRNESS AND I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE TREATED EQUAL ACROSS THE BOARD. AND I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE THE SAME EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AND RIGHTS. AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. GOOD TO SEE Y'ALL. I HOPE EVERYTHING EVERYBODY DOES GOOD. THANK YOU JAMES. THANK YOU SIR. ANYONE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT? ALRIGHT. I HAVE SOMEONE ELSE THAT I'M ASSUMING WANTS TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. SO THE LADY RAISED HER HAND. YES, MA'AM. YOU DID YOU WANT TO SAY AGAIN? SO? SO LET ME IF YOU'LL COME UP FRONT AND LET ME JUST SAY THIS. IF THERE'S ANYTHING NEW THAT ANYONE NEEDS TO ADD, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR. EVERYBODY HAD THEIR OPPORTUNITY. SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING NEW ADD, THAT'LL BE FINE. WHEN YOU BROUGHT THE VISUAL UP A WHILE AGO, COULD YOU BRING THAT UP AGAIN TO THE LAND? ALRIGHT, SO YOU HAD A LITTLE BIT. ALRIGHT. CAN YOU ZOOM? ALL RIGHT. SO YOU SEE SHE NOTED THE DOCKS AND WHERE OUR DOCKS ARE. BUT IF YOU'LL NOTICE, YOU SEE ROY STALLINGS ROAD, OUR PROPERTY. I DON'T HAVE A WAY.

CAN I, AM I ALLOWED TO APPROACH YOU? SURE. OKAY. SO I WILL SHOW YOUR PROPERTY. YEAH. SHOW MY PROPERTY. SURE. YEAH. I'M JUST GOING TO GET OUT OF MY BOUNDARIES. NO, NO. YOU'RE FINE.

YOU WANT THE MOUSE? YEAH. I'LL TAKE THE MOUSE. YEAH. SO NOW I'M IN YOUR WAY, RIGHT? SO IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR PROPERTY, WELL, I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU ZOOM IN AND OUT. TELL ME WHAT YOU DO.

OKAY. I FEEL LIKE IF THEIR PROPERTY. AND THEN YOU LOOK AT OUR PROPERTY, WE ARE RIGHT BEHIND ROY STALLINGS ROAD AND WE HEAR THE NOISE BECAUSE LAND, WATER CARRIES NOISE. WHEN THERE'S AN ACCIDENT IN THAT BAD CURVE, I HEAR IT. WE HEAR IT BECAUSE NOISE. ARE YOU HAPPY RIGHT THERE? ARE YOU SEEING THEIR PROPERTY? THEIR PROPERTY? THIS IS MY PROPERTY RIGHT HERE.

SO YOU SEE THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE? 131 YOU SEE THE PROPERTY THERE AT 163 WE HEAR ALL OF THAT NOISE. SO IF AND MEGAN, I KNOW THAT YOU WOULD NEVER INTEND FOR A RENTER. AND I KNOW THAT. I MEAN, I KNOW SHE WOULD NEVER INTEND FOR A RENTER TO COME AND MAKE NOISE. I, I TRULY BELIEVE THAT. BUT YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER WHO COMES. BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO NOTE HOW CLOSE OUR PROPERTIES ARE. WHILE SHE SAID THEY'RE NOT A PART. HE. EXCUSE ME, HE SAID HE'S NOT A PART OF OUR OUR SUBDIVISION AS SUCH, MY PROPERTY. WE ARE RIGHT THERE. WE BACK UP TO ROY'S HOLLINS ROAD, AND I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO BACKS UP TO ROY STALLINGS. RIGHT. I CAN SEE MY NEIGHBOR HERE. I CAN SEE MY NEIGHBOR AT 131. I CAN SEE MY NEIGHBOR AT 109. WE CAN SEE THEIR HOUSES AND WE HEAR THEIR NOISES, ESPECIALLY AT 163 WE HEAR THAT. SO IF YOU THINK WE'RE NOT GOING TO HEAR THE NOISE, IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. BECAUSE I HEAR THE NOISE WHEN THE WHEN THE TRUCKS WRECK AND THE BAD CURVE BECAUSE WATER CARRIES SOUND AND THEN THEIR DOG, THE LITTLE DOG, WAS THERE AS THE SECOND DOG DOT ONE DOT OVER, ONE MORE DOT OVER AND ONE MORE DOT OVER IS OUR DOG. AND WE HAVE EXPERIENCED PEOPLE WITH RENTALS COMING UP ON OUR DOT. SO WHILE YOU. YOU MIGHT, YOU KNOW, SHE MIGHT BE SAYING, WE'RE NOT IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE ARE ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT. I JUST WANT YOU TO SEE THE PROXIMITY OF OUR HOUSE AND THEIR HOUSE. IT'S ALL ONE. SO. SO, MISS MURPHY, YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S OTHER RENTALS IN THIS AREA? NO. IF YOU REMEMBER, TWO YEARS AGO, WE HAD A SHORT TERM THAT RAN ILLEGALLY. RIGHT. AND WE GOT CALLS YOU THAT YOU ADVISED. WE GOT THE PETITION, AND THAT MAN DECIDED TO GO WITH A LONG TERM VERSUS A SHORT TERM BECAUSE, ONE, HE HAD MONEY INVESTED IN THE HOUSE THAT HE COULDN'T GET OUT OF. AND BY SELLING IT BECAUSE HE WAS DOING WRONG TO START WITH, HE'S DOING WRONG. BUT YES, UNFORTUNATELY, IT DOES HAPPEN. AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT THEIR INTENT AT ALL.

I TRULY KNOW THAT. BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE PROXIMITY OF THE PROPERTIES, RIGHT? SO THAT JUST I MEAN, YOU SEE THE WATER SOUND CARRIES OVER WATER. I GOT THAT'S ALL

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I THOUGHT YOU SAID THREE YEARS. OH, RIGHT. I KNOW, BUT HOW LONG? SHE'S ASKING HOW LONG ARE YOU PLANNING TO. NINTH GRADE, BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG FROM TO FROM THE TIME YOU GET A PERMIT.

HOW MANY YEARS ARE YOU PLANNING ON DOING SHORT TERM RENTALS? WELL, WELL, LET, LET ME SAY THIS. I, I THINK THAT'S MAYBE AN UNFAIR QUESTION TO ASK THEM IN THE SENSE THAT THERE ARE.

WELL, LET ME FINISH THIS, PLEASE. THERE ARE REGULATIONS AND THEY KNOW THE NUMBER OF DAYS THAT THEY CAN RENT THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. I THINK THEY HAVE STATED THAT THEIR INTENTION IS WHEN THEIR KIDS COME OUT OF SCHOOL, THAT THEIR PLANS WOULD BE TO COME BACK TO LAGRANGE. I'M NOT SURE THAT THE ANSWER OF HOW LONG THEY WANT TO MAKE THIS RENTAL, OUR ORDINANCE DOESN'T COVER THAT. BUT CLARIFY, I WANT CLARIFICATION FOR US AS A COMMUNITY. WELL, I, I THINK AFTER THE MEETING THAT YOU'RE WELCOME TO GO AND TALK WITH THEM IF YOU'D LIKE THEM TO GET THAT ANSWER. I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF THE CONVERSATION THAT COMMISSIONER THRAILKILL WAS TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORS AND COMMISSIONER JONES ABOUT NEIGHBORS COMING TOGETHER. I THINK AFTER THE MEETING, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TALK WITH THEM ABOUT THAT, THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. BUT OUR ORDINANCE DOESN'T COVER HOW LONG. OKAY. OKAY. SO IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WANT TO COME BACK TO LAGRANGE AFTER MY KIDS. OKAY, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY WHAT THEY'RE IN HIGH SCHOOL, THEY'RE IN 11TH GRADE OR WHATEVER. SO LET'S JUST SAY FIVE YEARS. WHY NOT DO A LONG TERM? WELL, IT WOULD IT WOULD IT WOULD SAVE EVERYTHING. WELL, I THINK I THINK THEY'VE ANSWERED THAT IN THERE THAT THEY COME BACK HOME TO VISIT. NOW I KNOW VIDA IS HER MOTHER AND SHE DOESN'T LIVE FAR. YEAH.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I, I THINK THOSE ARE THINGS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AFTER THE MEETING.

IF YOU WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT, I WOULD SAY DO THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTED TO. I KNOW I GOT ALRIGHT, I'VE GOT TWO HANDS. IN THE INTEREST OF TIME. I'M GOING TO JUST LET THESE TWO PEOPLE MAKE THEIR COMMENTS AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON WITH OUR MEETING. SO TERRY, THE GENTLEMAN BEHIND YOU HAD A HAND UP IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORTH.

AND THE LADY TO THE LEFT, YOU SAID PURPLE. I COULDN'T SEE IT. YES, SIR. IF YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, MY NAME IS RONALD YARBOROUGH. I'M 24. WINNING PLACE AND CREEK RIDGE SUBDIVISION. THE HOUSE THAT WE ARE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ARE DISCUSSING IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO MY HOUSE. THESE GUYS COME IN THERE EVERY NIGHT WIDE OPEN. THEY GOT MUFFLERS ON AND TRUCKS THAT, YOU KNOW, WAKE UP THE DAY THEY DON'T CARE. AND. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THEY PLAN ON STAYING THERE. BUT WE HAVE CALLED TROUP COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TWO DIFFERENT TIMES, TWO TIMES. NOW Y'ALL KNOW THAT TWO TIMES TO COME OUT THERE AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON NEXT DOOR, AND THEY HAVE NEVER COME OUT THERE TWO TIMES. AND THIS IS NEXT DOOR, WHAT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO US ON WOODY PLACE. OKAY. IS THIS THEIR PROPERTY? THAT'S NOT THEIR PROPERTY. NOT THEIR

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SO IT'S NOT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THE THE PLACE IS 42. GOTCHA. WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR. AND I'VE GOT NOTHING AGAINST THESE PEOPLE DOING WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO. I DON'T REALLY CARE AS LONG AS. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THESE PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN, GOING TO STAY THERE, LIVING WHERE THEY'RE LIVING AT RIGHT NOW AT THIS TIME. BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING TO RUN A PLACE. LIKE THAT, IT SHOULD BE ON TEMPORARY BASIS. IT SHOULD HAVE A LIMITED TIME ON IT BECAUSE THESE THESE GUYS NEXT DOOR. YOU KNOW, THEY PARTY. LOOK, I'VE BEEN OUT THERE FOR 33 YEARS AND I'M ALMOST 80 YEARS OLD. AND THEY DO AGGRAVATE ME. AND MY WIFE GETS ON TO ME. SHE SAYS, DON'T GO, DON'T GO, GO. AND YOU KNOW, I'M NOT I'M NOT GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND START NOTHING. BUT THAT'S THE ONLY PROBLEM THAT I HAVE WITH IF THEY RENT IT TO SOMEBODY THAT, LIKE THESE PEOPLE IS RENTING THIS HOUSE. NO, I DON'T, I DON'T GO ALONG WITH IT. SO IS THAT A LONG TERM RENTAL THAT YOU YOU'RE DESCRIBING? I HAVE NO EARTHLY IDEA. YEAH. AND SEE, I WAS THE ONE THAT THE SHORT TERM AND THEY PROBABLY HAVE LESS REGULATIONS. THEY PROBABLY HAVE LESS REGULATIONS IF IF AT ALL. THEY HAVE NO REGULATIONS. SO TRYING TO MAKE IT TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. OKAY. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD SHARE WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AS WELL, IS THAT IF THAT'S A CONCERN. ABSOLUTELY. I.

CARE FOR THE PROPERTY IN AN AREA LIKE HOMEOWNERS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY CONCERN. AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE SEEN. YOU DID JUST A QUICK YOU KNOW, YOU LIVE IN WOODED PLAY AND I UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHERE THE ONE WAS OPERATING ILLEGALLY. ALL RIGHT. AND Y'ALL CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON 2024 WAS THE ADOPT WHEN THAT WAS FOUND OUT THAT THAT WAS ONE THAT KIND OF SPARKED THAT WAS IN THE ORDINANCE WAS IN THE PROCESS OF CHANGING THE ORDER. BUT YEAH, I MEAN, THERE WERE QUITE A FEW THAT WERE IT TOOK ABOUT TWO YEARS, RIGHT? SO ONCE THE ORDINANCE WAS WRITTEN, WAS. AND, AND YOU MIGHT, I MEAN, DID YOU EVER, LIKE READ THE ORDINANCE OR SEE THE ORDINANCE OR ANYTHING? THE GUY I TELL YOU THAT THIS IS THE WAY IT WAS. IT WAS A GUY FROM FLORIDA CAME UP AND HE SAID, I'M GOING TO REMODEL THIS HOUSE AND I'M GOING TO RENT IT OUT OR TRY TO SELL IT. THAT'S WHAT IT SAID. THAT'S FINE, YOU KNOW. BUT ONCE THE BOARD ADOPTED THE ORDINANCE, WAS EVERYBODY IN AGREEMENT FOR THE TERMS? I NEVER HEARD THE ORDINANCE. NO. HE I THINK HE BACKED OUT BEFORE HE BACKED OUT. HE TOOK IT OUT LONG TERM. HE BACKED OUT BEFORE IT EVER GOT. THERE ARE NO ORDINANCES FOR THAT ONE. I MEAN, BASICALLY ALL I KNOW IS THEY CALLED A LOT A LOT OF NOISE. YOU KNOW WHAT HE IS REFERRING TO IS JUST RECENTLY THE CALLING OF THE. YEAH, YEAH. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

BEFORE WE CALL, USED TO CALL MY WIFE. CALL ONE TIME FOR SOMEBODY WAS TRYING TO BREAKING THE HOUSE. SHE CALLED THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. THEY CAME RIGHT OUT THERE. TWO OF THEM CAME RIGHT OUT THERE AND DIDN'T FIND NOTHING. BUT THEY DID COME OUT THERE. BUT LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE CALLED TWO MORE TIMES SINCE. THESE PEOPLE HAVE MOVED IN OVER THERE AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY. WHAT IS WHAT ADDRESS IS THAT AGAIN? WHAT IS THAT ADDRESS THAT YOU DIDN'T GET? 24, 4242 THE ADDRESS OF THE THE COMPLAINT? YES. 42 WOULDN'T PLACE. OKAY. THANK YOU. RIGHT.

IS THAT YOUR COMMENT? I KNOW WE HAVE ONE MORE LADY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. YOU KNOW, I DON'T CARE ABOUT THESE PEOPLE. IF THEY RENT IT TO SOMEBODY, THAT'S NOT GOING TO CAUSE A WHOLE LOT OF PROBLEMS. THAT'S ALL I SAY. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SHE HAS HEARING ISSUES. I CAN TALK TO Y'ALL, BUT I PROBABLY CAN HEAR YOU. MY NAME IS JUNE HOOKS AND I LIVE DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR TO THE RENTERS THAT WE HAVE IN THE

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I LIVE BY MYSELF. I'M A WIDOW. CAN I CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? SURE. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THEIR PROPERTY, THE RENTAL PROPERTY? TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER HOUSE? ABOUT THE ONLY RENTAL PROPERTY SO FAR IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T KNOW THESE PEOPLE, AND I'M SURE THAT THEY'RE VERY, VERY NICE AND KIND PEOPLE. BUT WE HAVE ONE RENTAL PROPERTY WITHIN THE WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IT IS A NIGHTMARE. IT'S I'VE TALKED TO THE OWNER SEVERAL TIMES. HE'S BEEN KIND ENOUGH TO CALL ME BACK, BUT IT HASN'T TAKEN CARE OF THE PROBLEM TOTALLY. WE'VE HAD DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY. I'VE HAD PITBULLS IN MY YARD. I HAVE A SEVEN YEAR OLD OR A SIX YEAR OLD GREAT GRANDSON. LOUD NOISE AT NIGHT LIKE PAM, MY NEIGHBOR SAID SHE LIVES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ME. SHE HEARS THEM AND MY HOUSE IS BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM. ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS IT'S BEEN A NIGHTMARE. A RENTAL PROPERTY IS JUST NOT GOOD FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND AS I SAID, I'M SURE Y'ALL ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. I'VE KNOWN THE MADISON GALES, I KNEW JUNE, MADISON GALE, AND WE WERE FRIENDS. I KNEW SCOTT THAT BUILT THE HOUSE.

THEY WERE WONDERFUL PEOPLE, BUT WE JUST CANNOT TOLERATE ANOTHER RENTAL IF IT'S ANYTHING AT ALL LIKE WHAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED FOR THE LAST YEAR. I APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO ME. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO GIVE THE OWNERS ONE MORE CHANCE. I THINK Y'ALL HAD RAISED YOUR HAND. SO I'M GOING TO GIVE THE FOUR SIDE ONE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY IF YOU'D LIKE. I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THE LAST THREE SPEAKERS FOR SPEAKING ABOUT A LONG TERM RENTAL. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY A LONG TERM RENTAL IS NOT AN OPTION FOR US, BECAUSE WE LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS DEARLY THAT SURROUND OUR PROPERTY, AND THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE THEY DON'T KNOW KIND OF REVOLVING IN EVERY SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR. IF WE RENT IT TO ANYONE OVER 30 DAYS, WE CAN'T REMOVE THEM. IF THEY DON'T, IF THEY DON'T REMOVE THEMSELVES AND WE GET INTO THE COURT SYSTEM. SO ASIDE FROM US USING THE PROPERTY OURSELVES, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THAT'S THE MAIN REASON THAT IT'S NOT AN OPTION FOR US. WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT TO OUR NEIGHBORS. IF SOMEBODY GETS IN THERE AND CAUSES A PROBLEM LIKE THE LONG TERM RENTAL HAS CAUSED FOR THESE LAST THREE PEOPLE SPEAKING, THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT. BUT IF I OUR OUR RULE IS, IS WE WILL NOT RENT IT TO ANYONE OVER SEVEN DAYS. THERE IS NO WAY IN THE WORLD THE SHERIFF CANNOT REMOVE THEM IF THEY HAVE NOT STAYED THERE FOR MORE THAN SEVEN DAYS. SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO REMOVE ANYONE THAT CAUSES A PROBLEM. AND SOMEBODY SAID THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET TO CHOOSE. WE ARE GOING TO GET TO CHOOSE. WE'RE NOT WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO LIST IT ON AIRBNB. IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE ON VRBO BY REQUEST. AND IF YOU LOOK SKETCHY TO ME, I'M NOT CHOOSING YOU. AND WE MIGHT EVEN DO OUR OWN PERSONAL WEBSITE AND NOT ACTUALLY RENT THROUGH A THIRD PARTY WEBSITE. WE WOULD PREFER FAMILY TO RENT IT.

FRIENDS. WE HAVE PEOPLE ASKING US THAT WE KNOW WE PREFER KEEPING IT TO PEOPLE WE KNOW, HEY, HELP US PAY THE UTILITY BILLS, BUT WE JUST WANT TO BE IN ACCORDANCE AND COMPLIANCE WITH TROUP COUNTY. WE DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT MONEY FROM PEOPLE WHO STAY THERE ILLEGALLY AT ALL. AND BOARD. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR HEARING US. IT'S QUITE A WHILE. WE JUST WANT THIS TO BE JUDGED ON US, THIS PROPERTY, THIS APPLICATION, NOTHING ELSE. I DON'T WANT YOU TO IGNORE THIS.

EVERYTHING YOU'VE HEARD FROM THEM TONIGHT. I JUST WANT YOU TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN LEGITIMATE CONCERNS ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS GENERALLY AND EVIDENCE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PART, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY AND THIS PARTICULAR OWNER, WHICH WHICH IS US. WE'VE RESTORED THIS HOUSE. WE'VE MAINTAINED IT FOR MORE THAN THREE YEARS. WE'VE TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE CLOSEST TO US. WE HAVE PEOPLE WILLING AND READY TO WATCH IT AND CALL US IMMEDIATELY IF THERE'S EVER AN ISSUE. HER PARENTS LIVE RIGHT UP THE ROAD. THAT'S MY REPRESENTATIVE. OUR REPRESENTATIVE IS HER MOTHER AND FATHER. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO GO OUT OF CONTROL. AND IF IT EVEN SMELLS LIKE IT'S GOING TO, WE'LL NIP IT IN THE BUD. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DESTROY A 20 YEAR RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR NEIGHBORS BECAUSE OF A SHORT TERM RENTAL. WE'VE BEEN PAYING IT FOR THREE YEARS. WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO DO THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DESTROY THOSE RELATIONSHIPS. SO FAR, WE'VE MET THE COUNTY'S CONDITIONS. WE'VE AGREED TO THOSE CONDITIONS. WE'RE WILLING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THOSE AS WELL. I JUST WANT US TO BE OUR APPLICATION TO BE JUDGED, YOU KNOW, ON ITS OWN

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HAVING TROUBLE WITH. WAS SAYING THE MUSIC AND I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU'RE ON A LAKE HOW NOISE TRAVELS, BUT YOU KNOW, 9:00 ON A SUMMER DAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CUT THE MUSIC DOWN AT 9:00, IF YOU CAN DO THAT AT NINE, THEN THAT ELIMINATES THAT PART. IN THE CONDITION. AND THAT'S WHAT OUR 10:00 IS, OUR ORDINANCE. IN OTHER WORDS, THAT'S WHEN WE ENFORCE IT. YEAH. BUT LOOKING AT THEIR AGREEMENT, IT SAYS DUSK TILL DAWN. YEAH. WELL SEE, WE WE'RE RIGHT HERE. CORRECT.

NO. RIGHT. HERE'S ONE OF THE CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS SAID PROHIBITED OUTSIDE AFTER 10 P.M. I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THEIR AGREEMENT THAT THEY. YEAH. WELL SOMEBODY SIGNS. WELL I, I THOUGHT THIS WAS A CONDITIONS THAT THEY PUT ON WITH THE ZONING BOARD WHEN THEY APPROVED.

OKAY. YEAH. WELL I'D LIKE TO IF, IF WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THAT EVERYTHING THEY HAVE DONE. THIS IS REALLY UNUSUAL THAT AN INDIVIDUAL CAME UP THAT LIVES IN THAT COMMUNITY AND SAID, WELL, Y'ALL ARE AT YOUR HOME IN MARIETTA OR COBB COUNTY, THAT HE'S GOING TO LOOK AFTER THE PLACE. AND I'M SURE YOU YOU GOING TO HAVE OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT ARE GOING TO ALSO BE LOOKING AFTER THE PLACE THAT. BUT I'D LIKE TO CHANGE THAT TO 9 P.M. ON THAT CONDITION BEFORE WE EVER MOVE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY WE'RE GOING TO MOVE, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE DONE. ALRIGHT. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF AUSTIN? ANYONE? ALL RIGHT. SO HEARING NONE, THIS IS THE FIRST READING, RIGHT, AUSTIN. AND IT IS ELIGIBLE. VOTE ELIGIBLE. OKAY, THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A MOTION WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS PLACED TO APPROVE. THE SHORT MOTION WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE SHORT TERM RENTAL WITH THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH BY PLANNING AND ZONING, WITH THE ADDITIONAL ONE THAT COMMISSIONER JONES MENTIONED OF 9 P.M. FOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC. SO THAT'S THE. I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THAT I HADN'T. YOU GOTTA REPEAT EVERYTHING I JUST SAID. OKAY, I, I LIKE FOR THE CITIZENS THAT ARE PRESENT TONIGHT TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS A TOUGH DECISION. THIS IS A TOUGH DECISION ON BOTH SIDES. THIS COUPLE HAS LOOKED AT OUR ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE REALLY PUT TEETH IN BECAUSE OF THE PREVIOUS AIRBNBS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN TROUP COUNTY, BY GOING BY THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE IN THE RESTRICTIONS AND CONDITIONS THAT ARE PUT IN ON THIS AIRBNB SHORT TERM RENTAL OF HOW YOU WANT TO CALL IT. I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THIS COUPLE A CHANCE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

AND I'M SURE THE NEIGHBORS AND THAT ARE OUT THERE ARE REALLY GOING TO WATCH OVER AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO WITH THE OTHER RENTAL HOUSE BECAUSE IT'S A RENTAL. THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN CONTROL THAT IS YOUR DEPUTY SHERIFFS WHEN THEY COME OUT, BUT THEY HAVE RESTRICTIONS THAT IF IT DOES INTERFERE AND THEY ABUSE THESE RESTRICTIONS AND CONDITIONS, THEIR AIRBNB CAN BE PULLED. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE THIS COUPLE A CHANCE TO APPROVE THEIR AIRBNB. I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THAT MOTION, BUT ALSO HAVE A STATEMENT TO MAKE AS WELL. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO TO LOOK AT OUR NEW ORDINANCE. IF WE DO HAVE ANY INFRACTIONS, I THINK WE NEED TO FOLLOW CLOSELY WITH THIS PARTICULAR DECISION. SO IF ANYTHING HAPPENS, WE TAKE EVERY LEGAL STEP POSSIBLE TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY, THIS THIS HOME DOESN'T BECOME A NUISANCE TO THE COMMUNITY. SO I WOULD

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PLEASE LET US KNOW WHAT THOSE ISSUES ARE SO THAT WE CAN WE CAN WORK TO CORRECT ANYTHING THAT MIGHT NOT BE RIGHT. SO THE MOTION IS CARRIED. RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM, AUSTIN FINAL ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS HOME OCCUPATION. 707 BARTLEY ROAD FOR A QUOTE UNQUOTE GUN DEALER. AS YOU KNOW, IF THE HOME OCCUPATION IS NOT LISTED IN OUR USE CHART, IT GOES BEFORE US FOR APPROVAL, WHICH IS WHY THIS IS COMING TO YOU FOR APPROVAL. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A HOME OCCUPATION CERTIFICATE TO OPERATE A GUN DEALER ONLINE SALES BUSINESS ON A TWO ACRE PARCEL LOCATED IN A GR AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL. THE BOARD OF ZONING DID REVIEW THIS APPLICATION DURING THEIR MEETING. THEY APPROVED IT SIX OH VOTE WITH CONDITIONS. THE CONDITIONS WERE. THERE WAS A QUESTION ON WHETHER THE PARCEL WAS TWO ACRES OR 2.1 ACRES. AS YOU ARE ALL AWARE, IF THE PARCEL IS OVER TWO ACRES, CERTAIN STIPULATIONS CAN COME INTO PLAY WHERE THEY CAN DO A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN IF THEY WERE ON A TWO ACRE OR LESS PARCEL. NOW, WITH THIS APPLICATION, WE GO BY WHAT'S ON Q PUBLIC, WHICH IS OUR WHICH IS BASICALLY TAX RECORDS. AND AS FAR AS THAT GOES, FROM WHAT WE COULD SEE, IT IS TWO ACRES.

EXACTLY TWO ACRES OR LESS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. THE MAIN THING WAS WHETHER OR NOT HE COULD USE HIS ACCESSORY BUILDING FOR HIS FOR HIS SHOP. BASICALLY, SINCE IT'S LESS THAN TWO ACRES, BOARD OF ZONING REQUESTED THAT HE MOVE ANY TYPE OF EQUIPMENT INTO THE RESIDENCE ITSELF INSTEAD OF USING THE SHOP AS PURSUANT TO OUR ORDINANCE, HE DID RECEIVE HIS ATF APPROVAL AS WELL. HE. HE DOES HAVE HIS ATF LICENSE. I KNOW I HAD A QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER JONES ABOUT HOW MANY WE HAVE HERE WITHIN THE COUNTY, AND I DID LOOK, WE WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE THAT OPERATES WITHIN THE COUNTY. SAME THING. AND THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS THAT LOCATION. IT WAS AT 1733 SOUTH THOMPSON ROAD. I WAS OPTIONS WAS CAN I, I WAS THINKING IT WAS ONE UP THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY, BUT THAT MAY HAVE BEEN ONE THAT NEVER. I BELIEVE YOU ARE CORRECT. THERE WAS ONE ACTIVE ACTIVE BUSINESS LICENSE THAT WAS A THAT WAS A CLASS, WASN'T IT? NO, THAT WAS DOWN. I WANT TO SET UP A. THAT WAS GROVE ROAD AND OAK GROVE ROAD. THIS ONE HE WANTED TO SET UP WHILE HE HAD HIS GUNS. HE WANTED TO SET UP A FIRING RANGE, ONE AT JAMES, A FIRING RANGE, I THINK IN THE BACK, THE ONE THAT WAS DOING A CLASS FOR TRAINING HAD A FIRING RANGE ALREADY ON THEIR PROPERTY. THAT WAS NOT A PUBLIC FIRING RANGE. IT WAS JUST FOR THEIR OWN PRIVATE USE. THE THE CLASHES WITH. AND THEY CAME IN TO GET A SPECIAL USE TO DO CLASSES LIKE GUN SAFETY CLASSES THAT WAS ON GROVE ROAD. BUT THIS APPLICANT IS ONLY GOING TO SIMILAR GUNS ON ON PROPERTY. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING. SO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ANYONE THAT'S IN OPPOSITION TO THIS THAT YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME FORTH. ALRIGHT.

HEARING NONE, I GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ANYONE THEY'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS. YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME FORWARD. THANK YOU. PROBABLY HEARD IF YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY BEFORE, IF YOU'LL GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, IT'S CHRIS. I LIVE AT 707 BARTLEY ROAD. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY I HAVE I HAVE MOVED EVERYTHING. SO IT IS IN IT IS WITHIN THE RESIDENCE IN THE PERCENTAGE THAT I'M ALLOWED. SO ALL THAT HAS BEEN MOVED OUT OF THE OUT OF THE AUXILIARY BUILDING UNTIL I CAN UNTIL I CAN GET THE PROPERTY RECHECKED.

IF YOU DO THE MATH ON THE PLAT. THE PLAT SAYS THAT IT'S 2.08, WHICH WOULD TAKE ME OVER THE TWO ACRES, BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, WHEN THEY FILED IT, THEY WROTE 2.0. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT'S THE WAY THE TAXES ARE WRITTEN. IT'S JUST IT'S $2,200 FOR ME TO HAVE THAT REMEASURED AND RESUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY TAX TAX. SO THAT'S GOING TO TAKE ME A MINUTE. BUT IN THE INTERIM, I DID MOVE EVERYTHING AND I UNDERSTAND ALL THE LAWS. NO FOOT TRAFFIC, NO NO SIGNAGE, SO ON AND SO FORTH. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. HOLD ON, HOLD ON. I

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SO THE SECURITY FOR THE GUNS, I MEAN, IT'S THERE. WE HAVE SECURITY SYSTEM ON THE HOUSE AND FULL CAMERAS, WHICH ARE WHICH ARE INTERNET BASED. SO AS SOON AS SOMEBODY PULLS IN MY DRIVEWAY, EVERYBODY IN THE FAMILY GETS GETS A MESSAGE. SO THEY, OUR CHILDREN KEEP TABS ON US BY. THAT'S AT HOME. MOM'S AT HOME. SO YEAH, AS A REGISTERED AGENT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW CERTAIN PROTOCOLS ANYWAY. IS THAT. OH YES SIR. YES, SIR. YEAH, YEAH. THAT'S IT EXACTLY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT EXACTLY YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING. SO SO REALLY BUILDING ON THE AR PLATFORM, CUSTOM GUNS. SO RIGHT NOW IF YOU GO TO YOU GO YOU GOING TO GET YOUR YOU'RE GOING TO GET BARRELS, FOREARMS, PUT IT ALL TOGETHER. OKAY. YEP. UPPERS LOWERS BARRELS ASSEMBLY.

I DID, I DID HAVE THE LATHE. SO I WILL CUT DOWN, CUT DOWN BARRELS AND MAKE SHORT BARREL RIFLES. CAN YOU THROW THEM. I CAN YEAH, HAVE 14 OR 5 EIGHTHS, 28, WHICHEVER ONE YOU WANT. I'M JUST MY NAME AND NUMBER. IT'S NOT LIKE HE WANTS TO COME SEE YOU. JUST ASK. YES, SIR. YOU'RE ASKING FOR A FRIEND, RIGHT? YEAH. HEY, HEY. FIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW? WHERE THE SECURITY PART? YEAH, I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE WHEN INDIVIDUALS FIND OUT THERE'S GUNS AT CERTAIN PLACES, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE FULL METAL JACKET RIGHT HERE. THEY THEY HIT THEM, YOU KNOW, AND THE INDIVIDUAL THAT HIT LIKE THAT, YOU DON'T WANT THOSE GUNS ON THE STREET. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING WHAT THAT SECURITY. AND YOU KEEP YOUR GUNS AND SECURE PLACES. YEAH. AND THAT'S I GUESS THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS EVEN EVEN AFTER I GET THE, THE ACREAGE THING STRAIGHTENED OUT AND I USE THE AUXILIARY BUILDING, THERE WILL BE NO SIGNAGE, THERE WILL BE NO FOOT TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT. OH, THERE YOU GO.

OKAY. ONE, MY WIFE HAS SAID THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. SO SHE MAKES THE RULES. YEAH. HOW DO YOU IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE FOOT TRAFFIC, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE I MEAN, IF YOU DO. SO IT'S INTERNET BASED AND WE DO GUN SHOWS. SO I'LL BE TRAVELING TO THE GUN SHOWS.

OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. DID YOU GET ANY CALLS? NO CALLS? NO. NO CALLS. IT WAS POSTED. IT WAS SIX SIX.

OH CORRECT. ALRIGHT. THIS IS THE FIRST READING. IF I WOULD FIRST VOTE ELIGIBLE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE. ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MOTION IS CARRIED THEN. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT WE COME OUT OF PUBLIC HEARING. GO BACK INTO REGULAR MEETING AND ADJOURN. SO MOVED. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.