[*A portion of this meeting is without audio*] [00:07:19] DEALING IS BECAUSE IF YOU IF YOU TAKE A GRIP OFF OF AN AR AND PUT IT THE. THE FEDERAL [00:07:28] GOVERNMENT SAYS THAT'S MANUFACTURING. ANYTIME YOU DISASSEMBLE AND CHANGE IT IN ANY WAY THAT'S MANUFACTURING, THAT'S SMITHING. SO YOU'LL BE LICENSE SAYS BASICALLY CUSTOMIZING GUNS, CUSTOMIZING GUN MAIN SALE WILL BE AT GUN SHOWS. AND SWAP MEETS THAT SUPPORT THE GUN INDUSTRY. I DO HAVE A MANUFACTURING SITE. THEIR MANUFACTURING CONSISTS OF LIGHT AT YOUR HOME OR. I'M CONFUSED. SORRY, SIR. YOU HAVE A MANUFACTURING SITE WHERE I DO HAVE A A SHOP AT MY HOUSE THAT DOES HAVE A LATHE AND A MILL IN IT. SO THERE IS THERE IS MANUFACTURING. THERE IT IS. IS THAT A MODIFICATION SEPARATE BUILDING OR THE MAIN STRUCTURE? IT'S A SEPARATE BUILDING. WHAT DOES THE ORDINANCE SAY ABOUT SEPARATE BUILDINGS ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. AND NOT TO BE USED FOR THAT. IT HAS TO BE ENTIRELY WITHIN THE DWELLING. I FACE 2.1 ACRES. HE CAN'T DO IT. YES, SIR. I'M JUST SAYING. HE SAYS IT'S 2.1. YEAH. AND IF IT'S MORE THAN TWO, IT'S ONE OF THE TAX RECORDS SHOW TWO ACRES. SO DO YOU HAVE A SURVEY THAT SHOWS 2.1 TO GET YOU OVER THE. I'M SORRY, I HATE TO BE SO TECHNICAL, BUT IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. WHEN I APPLIED, THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASKED AND I WAS TOLD IT WAS 2.1 BY BY Y'ALL'S RECORDS. NO SIR. ON YOUR. I CAN GET I CAN GET THAT ON YOUR APPLICATION. WE DOCUMENTED IT AS TWO ACRES. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT YOU DOCUMENTED. BUT WHAT DOES THE TAX. IT SAYS TWO IF YOU LOOK UP ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, IT SAYS TWO ACRES ON Q PUBLIC, WHICH IS WHAT WE GO OFF OF. I, I, I CAN, I CAN PULL THE COUNTY PLOT FROM RECORDS. I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE'S LOOKING AT. WELL, I DON'T HAVE THE I DON'T HAVE THE PLAT REFERENCE IN THIS PROPERTY RECORD CARDS. SOME OF THE PROPERTY RECORD CARDS REFERENCE THE PLAT AND I CAN PULL IT UP DIGITALLY IF I HAD A PLAT BOOK IN PAGE. BUT THIS ONE DOES NOT SHOW A PLAT BOOK IN PAGE. IT DOES SHOW A DEED FROM THE PURCHASE IN 2023, BUT I DON'T. I DON'T SHOW THE PLAT. I CAN TRY TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH RIGHT NOW. THAT MIGHT TAKE ME JUST A MOMENT, COULD YOU? BECAUSE IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO AND THE 2.1 ON WHAT'S ALLOWED, RIGHT? LET ME SEE IF I CAN PULL A DEED THAT WOULD THAT WOULD REFERENCE A PLAT THERE. I, I [00:10:04] DON'T KNOW, MR. SALAMEH, IF YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT A PLAT HAS EVER BEEN DRAWN OF THE PROPERTY, I DID GET ONE OUT OF PUBLIC RECORDS WHEN I FINANCED THE HOUSE. OKAY. SO THERE IS A PLAT DRAWN. I DID NOT BRING. I CAN SAID IF IT'S RECORDED IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND IT. IF I CAN GET A PLAT BOOK AND PAGE, AND I MIGHT FIND THAT ON THE DEED. JUST TAKE ME A MOMENT. THE OFFICE AND THE BUILDING, THE. THE ONES THAT IS DONE IN THE MAIN STRUCTURE. IT'S WITHIN THE 1800FTâ– !S. THE ONLY THING THAT'S IN THE OFF BUILDING IS THE IS THE LATHE IN THE MIDDLE, WHICH CAN BE CAN BE MOVED TO THE MAIN RESIDENCE AND STILL FALLS WITHIN THE 25%, I BELIEVE IF THAT'S IF THAT'S THE HOLD UP THAT CAN BE MOVED TO THAT SAME TO THAT TO THE GARAGE AREA OF THE HOUSE, WHICH IS. OKAY. GIVE US A SENSE OF HOW MANY HOW LARGE OF THE FUNDS THAT YOU STOCK STORE IN A SENSE OF THE AMOUNT OF AMMUNITION THAT YOU STOCK STORE. WHY? I'M JUST CURIOUS. OKAY. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING. WELL, IT IS A RESIDENCE. AND I THINK HE INDICATED HOW MUCH HOW MUCH AMMUNITION DO YOU HAVE AT YOUR HOUSE? BUT MINE IS UP FOR SALE FOR TODAY. FOR THE BUSINESS, FOR THE BUSINESS SIDE OF IT. I CURRENTLY HAVE SIX LOWERS AND SIX UPPERS AND FOUR BARRELS. I'M BUILDING THOSE GUNS TO TAKE TO THE NEXT GUN SHOW THAT'S DOWN IN ALBANY, GEORGIA. I WANT TO BUILD THOSE GUNS, CUSTOM PAINT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE TO HAVE IS A BUSINESS LICENSE, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET. SO I'M, I'M ON HOLD. I BOUGHT THOSE, I BOUGHT THOSE LOWERS END OF LAST YEAR IN NOVEMBER, AND I'M SITTING ON THEM BECAUSE I'M IN I CAN'T, I CAN'T SELL WITHOUT, I CAN'T SELL AT GUN SHOWS WITHOUT A BUSINESS LICENSE. SO AND WHERE DO YOU TARGET PRACTICE? I CURRENTLY TARGET PRACTICE ON PRIVATE LAND OUT IN HOGANSVILLE, 219 ACRES OWNED BY DENNIS ROSENTHAL, AND I CAN. I CAN GET A LETTER SHOWING THAT I CAN SHOW YOU PICTURES OF THE SHOOTING RANGE. YES SIR. I ALSO I SHOOT IT, I ALSO SHOOT IT THE THE RANGE. THAT'S WHERE I SIGHT GUNS. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU PRACTICE AT. OKAY, WELL, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, ARE YOU COMPLETELY MAKING THEM OR YOU GOT PARTS COMING IN? ARE YOU DOING YOUR OWN BARRELS AND YOUR GRIPS? THE ONLY THING I'M THE ONLY THING I'M DOING THE BARRELS IS IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO CONVERT A BARREL FROM A LONG BARREL RIFLE 16IN OR LONGER DOWN TO AN SBR, I WILL CUT THE BARREL AND THREAD IT. FOR SUPPRESSORS. I WILL TAKE BARRELS THAT ARE NOT THREADED AND THREAD THEM FOR SUPPRESSORS. THERE'S JUST BASICALLY MINOR MODIFICATIONS. IT'S IT'S ALL MODIFICATION. I, I DON'T I DON'T CURRENTLY POSSESS THE TALENT TO TURN BARRELS AND PUT RIFLING IN. SO MUCH TRAFFIC. AS FAR AS DELIVERIES AND STUFF, DO YOU ANTICIPATE NO MORE THAN MY WIFE GETS IN PRIMARY? I'M SORRY. THAT'S A, THAT'S A PERSONAL THING OF MINE. I WOULD SAY ON AVERAGE. I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO ORDER FROM TWO COMPANIES RIGHT NOW. AR 15 DISCOUNTER AND BEAR INDUSTRIES. I PROBABLY GET ONE PACKAGE A MONTH. NOW IF I CONTINUE TO DO FIVE GUNS A YEAR, I WOULD SAY IT WOULD NOT BE OVER JUST FOR THE GUN BUSINESS. IT WOULD NOT BE OVER 1 TO 2 PACKAGES A MONTH PROBABLY. SO YOU SPECIALIZE MORE ON RIFLES AND PISTOLS? RIFLES IS MY SPECIALTY. I WILL I WILL WORK ON GLOCKS AND PUT CUSTOMIZED TRIGGERS IN GLOCKS. BUT THAT'S NOT MY MINE IS AR. I LIKE THE AR PLATFORM. SO. OKAY, WHAT SORT OF. JAMES, ANY RESULTS ON THAT? I HAVE NOT FOUND A PLAT DRAWING YET, BUT I'VE. I'VE FOUND A REFERENCE TO A PLAT. I FOUND TWO DEEDS. THIS DEED INDICATES THAT THE PROPERTY IS DESCRIBED AS TWO ACRES, AND [00:15:01] IT'S DESCRIBED AS A PLAT RECORDED IN DEED BOOK 267 FOR 30. BUT WHEN I GO TO DEED BOOK 2674 30, NOTHING COMES UP. AND SO THAT MAY BE A DOCUMENT THAT HAS NOT BEEN SCANNED IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE. AND WE WOULD HAVE TO WALK OVER THERE AND, AND LOOK AT IT MANUALLY. AND WE COULD DO THAT IF, IF YOU WANTED TO GIVE US A BREAK, I FOUND A SECOND DEED REFERENCE SO FAR, AND THERE ARE OTHERS THAT I COULD LOOK AT, BUT. THIS ONE ALSO INDICATES THAT THERE WAS A PLAT RECORDED IN 267 FOR 30. OKAY, SO WE CAN'T DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S 2 OR 2.1 AT THIS TIME. IT'S TWO, BUT IT'S FOUND IT OFF, YOU KNOW. YEAH, A 2.0. AND SO I, I DON'T KNOW, IT MAY BE 2.1. ALRIGHT, BUT ROUND IT OFF. IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S A PRETTY MAJOR DIFFERENCE IN THE TWO AND LARGER THAN TWO. AND WHAT HE CAN DO WITH, WITH THAT EXTRA BUILDING. GOT A COUPLE MORE DEED REFERENCES. I HAVEN'T SEARCHED YET, BUT I CAN CONTINUE TO SEARCH. OKAY. AND IF TO CONTINUE IF TO CONTINUE. RIGHT NOW I HAVE TO MOVE THE ONLY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT I'M REALLY USING RIGHT NOW FOR THE GUN BUSINESS. AND IF I HAVE TO MOVE THAT INTO THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE, I'M STILL BELOW THE PERCENTAGE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, I CAN I CAN DO THAT. IF THAT'S IF THAT'S A REQUIREMENT OF THE OF THE BOARD. OKAY. MAYBE WE COULD IF WE COULD PROVE DOCUMENTATION, WE COULD APPROVE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE STIPULATION THAT IF IT IS A PLANT, HE CAN LEAVE IT. YEAH. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? PERTINENT QUESTIONS. SANDY, HOW MANY CUSTOMERS DO YOU HAVE COMING TO YOUR HOME TODAY? THE PLAN IS NOT TO HAVE CUSTOMERS AT MY HOUSE, MAINLY MY WIFE. SO TELL ME WHAT THE PLAN WOULD BE IF IT DIDN'T WORK OUT OR SOMETHING. WHAT'S THAT? THE PLAN IS TO NOT HAVE THEM, BUT THAT LEAVES IF THE BUSINESS IF THE BUSINESS GETS TO A POINT WHERE I'M GOING TO DO BUSINESS OUT OF MY HOME AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT OF MY HOUSE, OTHER THAN PEOPLE I KNOW, I WOULD, I WOULD HAVE TO GET A I'D HAVE TO GET A BRICK AND MORTAR SOMEWHERE ELSE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHT. FOUND A THIRD DEED REFERENCE AND IT SAYS THE SAME INFORMATION. TWO ACRES ROUNDED OFF AND IT SAYS THE PLAT IS 2674 30. ALSO SEE A DEED REFERENCE ON THE PROPERTY CARD THAT SAYS 267429 PREVIOUS PAGE. AND THAT ALSO DOES NOT COME UP IN MY DIGITAL SEARCH. SO I THINK IT'S A BOOK THAT HAS NOT BEEN SCANNED YET. IT'S IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE ACROSS THE HALL, BUT IT'S NOT. YEAH, I THINK WE CAN. MOVE THIS ON BASED ON A TWO ACRE THING. IF HE IF THE MOTION IS MADE TO APPROVE AND HE MOVE HIS LATHE INTO THE HOUSE AND HE DON'T USE THE ACCESSORY BUILDING BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIG, BIG THING BETWEEN 2 AND 2.1. YES. ACCESSORY BUILDING. SO THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO YOU DON'T SELL TO THE PUBLIC ANY OF THESE GUNS. YOU TAKE THEM TO THE GUN SHOWS, TAKE THEM TO THE GUN SHOW. I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY I KNOW WANTED ME TO WORK ON A GUN, I WOULD I IF THAT'S CONSIDERED PUBLIC. BUT AS FAR AS A SIGN OUT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE AND PEOPLE COME INTO MY HOUSE, NO. YEAH, IT WILL NOT BE DOING THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHTY. THANK YOU. YEAH. ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE OPPOSED TO THIS? LICENSE? WHATEVER. WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, HOME OCCUPATION PERMIT. YEAH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SOMEBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THE HOME USE OCCUPATION AND PERMIT THE USE OF THE ACCESSORY BUILDING. IF THE APPLICANT CAN PROVIDE A PLAT SHOWING THAT IT'S GREATER THAN 2.12, GREATER THAN TWO ACRES. IF HE CAN'T, HE'LL HAVE TO MOVE THE LATHE AND MACHINERY INTO HIS GARAGE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? SECOND ON IT. MOTION'S MOVED, MOVED AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. NEXT APPLICATION IS [V.C.1. SU - Short Term Rental Application - Megan Hubbard - 120 Roy Stallings (APN 0634 000064) 1st Reading - Vote Eligible] [00:20:03] FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL SPECIAL USE PERMIT. IT WAS SUBMITTED BY MEGAN HUBBARD. SHE IS REQUESTING APPROVAL. A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO OPERATE A SHORT TERM RENTAL BUSINESS ON A PARCEL. THAT'S ONE ACRE. IT IS WITHIN A SUBURBAN MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. THERE IS A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING WITH THREE BEDROOMS AND TWO BATHROOMS. THE PARCEL IS SURROUNDED BY PARCELS ZONED AS SUR. THE CURRENT USE IS RESIDENTIAL. THE DWELLING IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 42.75FT FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE, 153.2FT FROM THE DWELLING TO THE NORTH, 140FT FROM THE DWELLING TO THE SOUTH, 414.3FT FROM THE DWELLING LOCATED ON PARCEL TO THE REAR. THE STANDARDS FOR THE SPECIAL USE CONSIDERATION. THE REQUEST WILL NOT GENERATE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN TRAFFIC. EXISTING STREET SYSTEM WILL ADEQUATELY ACCOMMODATE TRAFFIC OF THIS TYPE. EXISTING UTILITIES, FACILITIES AND SERVICES ARE CURRENTLY AND ADEQUATELY ACCOMMODATING USES IDENTICAL TO THE PROPOSED USE. IT IS SERVED BY PUBLIC WATER AND SEPTIC. THE USE RELATED TO THE REQUEST SHOULD NOT FALL OUT OF LINE WITH ACTIVITIES CHARACTERISTIC OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. OF THIS TYPE. THERE SHALL BE NO PARKING ON THE RIGHT OF WAY AND NO AMPLIFIED SOUND OUTSIDE. AFTER 10 P.M. THIS PROPOSED USE WOULD NOT HAVE A DETRIMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING AREA AND WOULD NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY, STAFF AND OTHER PUBLIC AGENCY COMMENTS. PLANNING RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL OF TWO OCCUPANTS PER BEDROOM AND TWO ADDITIONAL GUESTS, WHICH WOULD BRING IT TO A TOTAL OF EIGHT GUESTS PER RENTAL PERIOD. THE FIRE MARSHAL THEY SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL FIRE LIFE SAFETY CODES IN TROUP COUNTY ORDINANCE, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. THE SEPTIC IS APPROVED FOR IT AND THEY MUST COMPLY WITH THE 2024 URC POOL CODE. THE SWIMMING POOL AREA REQUIRES A LIFE SAVING EQUIPMENT, ROPE AND FLOAT LINE, NO DIVING SIGNAGE, POOL BARRIER FENCING WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE, NO DIVING SIGNAGE, NO LIFEGUARD ON DUTY SIGNAGE AND AT LEAST WITH LETTERS AT LEAST FOUR INCHES IN HEIGHT. THE EMERGENCY SERVICE ADDRESS SHALL BE CLEARLY POSTED. DRAIN COVERS AND SUCTION OUTLETS ARE REQUIRED. ROSEN ENGINEERING NO COMMENTS. PROPERTY APPRAISAL NO COMMENTS. SHERIFF'S OFFICE NO COMMENTS. THEY HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMPLAINT FOR THIS ADDRESS. WE HAVE ASKED THEM TO LOOK. IF APPROVED, WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO ADD. ALSO, THESE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS MUST OBTAIN THE PROPER BUSINESS LICENSE. ONCE AGAIN, NO AMPLIFIED SOUNDS OUT OUTSIDE AFTER 10 P.M. ANY PROPOSED DEVIATIONS FROM THE APPROVED SITE PLAN MUST BE SUBMITTED AND APPROVED BY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. NO PARKING IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. SIGNAGE MUST MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF TROUP COUNTY SIGN ORDINANCE. EXTERIOR LIGHTING SHALL BE DESIGNED TO PREVENT SPILLOVERS ON ADJACENT PROPERTY. THEY SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL STAFF SLASH PUBLIC. AGENCY COMMENTS. THE OWNER AGREES TO USE HIS OR HER BEST EFFORTS TO ASSURE THAT THE USE OF THE PREMISES BY SHORT TERM RENTAL OCCUPANTS WILL NOT DISRUPT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH THE RIGHTS OF NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS TO THE QUIET ENJOYMENT OF THE PROPERTIES MUST PROVIDE A COPY OF AN EXEMPLARY AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE OWNER AND OCCUPANTS, WHICH OBLIGATE THE OCCUPANT OCCUPANT TO ABIDE BY ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SECTION AND OTHER COUNTY ORDINANCES, STATE AND FEDERAL LAW, AND THAT SUCH A VIOLATION OF ANY THESE RULES MAY RESULT IN IMMEDIATE TERMINATION OF THE AGREEMENT AND EVICTION FROM THE PREMISES, AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY POTENTIAL LIABILITY FOR PAYMENT OF FINES LEVIED. PROVIDE PROOF OF HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE, WHICH IS ALREADY PROVIDED. MUST PROVIDE CONTACT INFORMATION WHICH IS A LOCAL CONTACT NO MORE THAN 30 MINUTES FROM LAGRANGE FROM ACTUALLY THE THE RESIDENTS AND THEY MUST ABIDE BY THE ENTIRETY OF THE SECTION 7.6 COMMERCIAL USES 15. A SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. IT IS THE FIRST READING AND IT IS BOTH ELIGIBLE. IS THIS JUST A REFERRAL TO THE. IS THIS JUST A REFERRAL TO THE BOARD? YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I WILL STATE I RECEIVED ONE TEXT IN OPPOSITION TO MENTION WE DID [00:25:03] RECEIVE A PETITION. IT IS IN THE ON THE IN THE AGENDA. AND ALSO WE RECEIVED ANOTHER PETITION IN FAVOR FROM THE APPLICANT. AND I DID RECEIVE SEVERAL PHONE CALLS, BUT MOST OF THOSE WERE ON THE PETITION ALREADY. I SEE TWO POSITIONS IN OPPOSITION, TWO PETITIONS IN OPPOSITION. SHE SAID THERE WAS ONE PETITION. IT SHOULD BE. IT'S ALL IN ONE PACKET, BUT IT'S JUST ONE PETITION FROM THE. THEY HAD THREE PEOPLE GOING DOOR TO DOOR TO GET THOSE PETITION, AND IT'S ONLY ONE FOR THE APPLICANT. WHERE IS THE OTHER PETITION IN HERE? YOU SHOULD KEEP GOING AFTER THE STAFF REPORT. YOU SHOULD SEE THE PETITION. YEAH. THERE'S A PETITION OPPOSING THE OTHER ONE SHOULD BE FURTHER UP RIGHT AFTER THE APPLICATION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. HOW MANY IN TOTAL PROPERTY OWNERS OPPOSE AND HOW MANY SUPPORT? UNFORTUNATELY, I DIDN'T DO THE TOTAL. WE JUST WENT FOR THE MILEAGE. HOW FAR THEY ARE FROM THE. THE RENT. THIS RENTAL. WE HAVE ABOUT FIVE PER PAGE. AND I THINK IT WAS TOTAL OF. 80. YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE IN SUPPORT. I JUST ADD ON GO BACK. PAGE. IT'S ON PAGE 64. SO ABOUT 63 IS THAT AND HOW MANY IN. FAVOR OF. ALL THE NEIGHBORS AROUND HER EXCEPT FOR THE ONE AT THE VERY END, ABOUT SIX YOU SAY FAVOR AND 60 OPPOSED. YEAH. YEAH. I HEARD MUTED NEIGHBORS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE IN SIX IN FAVOR. AGAINST. ALRIGHTY. SO WE'VE GOT SOME FOR AND SOME AGAINST NEIGHBORS FOR NEIGHBORS AGAINST. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD FOR STAFF THAT WE HADN'T ASKED YET. NO QUESTIONS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR THIS. BECAUSE WE GO FOR, AGAINST AND THEN FOR. ALL RIGHT. AND Y'ALL ARE THE APPLICANTS. YES. OKAY. GOOD. GOOD. NAME AND ADDRESS. NAME. TRAVIS HUBBARD AND MEGAN HUBBARD 120 ROY STALLINGS ROAD, LAGRANGE, GEORGIA. I HAD TO WRITE IT IN A LETTER BECAUSE I'M TERRIBLE AT THIS. SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO REVIEW OUR APPLICATION FOR THIS PERMIT. WE APPRECIATE THE RESPONSIBILITY YOU HAVE IN BALANCING THE INTERESTS OF ALL THE HOMEOWNERS IN THE AREA, AND WE JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A BACKGROUND ABOUT OUR FAMILY AND WHY WE'RE EVEN REQUESTING THIS PERMIT. MY FAMILY MOVED TO TROUP COUNTY IN 1985, AND TROUP COUNTY HAS BEEN HOME FOR MOST OF MY LIFE. I'M A GRADUATE OF LAGRANGE HIGH SCHOOL, AND MY PARENTS, BURT AND VIDA HUNTER, ALONG WITH MY BROTHER, CONTINUE TO LIVE IN TROUP COUNTY. ALTHOUGH MY HUSBAND AND I CURRENTLY RESIDE IN COBB COUNTY, TROUP COUNTY HAS BEEN OUR HOME AND WE CONTINUE TO RETURN FREQUENTLY TO VISIT FAMILY, SPEND TIME WITH LIFELONG FRIENDS, AND ENJOY OUR COMMUNITY. MY HUSBAND IS A UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS VETERAN, AND DURING HIS MILITARY CAREER, WE MOVED AROUND THE WORLD FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS BEFORE RETURNING HOME TO LAGRANGE ON ROY STALLINGS ROAD IN 2018. WHEN WE PURCHASED THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR BECAUSE WE LIVED AT 154, WE PURCHASED THE [00:30:04] HOUSE NEXT DOOR. 120 ROY STALLINGS ROAD. WE ACTUALLY SOLD OUR HOUSE TO MY BEST FRIEND AND WE PURCHASED 120 ROY STALLINGS IN FEBRUARY OF 2023, AND IT WAS EVERY INTENTION OF MAKING IT OUR LONG TERM RESIDENCE. LIFE, HOWEVER, PRESENTED OUR FAMILY WITH AN UNEXPECTED OPPORTUNITY. OUR CHILDREN. WE HAVE TWO BOYS. WE'RE OFFERED AN EXCEPTIONAL EDUCATION PLACEMENT AT A STATE CHARTER SCHOOL AND IN COBB COUNTY, WHERE WE CURRENTLY RESIDE, AND WE JUST COULDN'T PASS IT UP. IT'S 1500 KIDS ON THE WAITING LIST AND WE WON THE LOTTERY AND WE JUST WE HAD TO SAY YES. WE KNEW WE WOULDN'T GET IT AGAIN. IT WAS NEVER WHILE RELOCATING WAS THE RIGHT DECISION FOR OUR FAMILY, IT WAS NEVER OUR DESIRE TO GIVE UP OUR HOME IN TROUP COUNTY. INSTEAD, WE CHOSE TO KEEP IT BECAUSE WE HOPE THAT ONE DAY IT MAY AGAIN BECOME OUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE AFTER OUR CHILDREN'S EDUCATION IS COMPLETE. IN THE MEANTIME, MAINTAINING TWO HOMES HAS BECOME A SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY. UTILITIES, LAWN CARE, POOL MAINTENANCE, INSURANCE, TAXES, ROUTINE UPKEEP CONTINUE YEAR ROUND WHETHER THE HOME IS OCCUPIED OR NOT. SO OUR GOAL IN REQUESTING THIS PERMIT IS TO OFFSET A PORTION OF THOSE CARRYING COSTS SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO OWN THE PROPERTY UNTIL WE ARE ABLE TO RETURN MORE PERMANENTLY. WE WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE ARE NOT REAL ESTATE INVESTORS, NOR IS THIS PROPERTY PART OF A PORTFOLIO OF RENTAL HOMES. WE DON'T OWN ANY OTHER PROPERTIES. WE DON'T RENT ANY PROPERTIES. THIS IS OUR FAMILY HOME. WE CURRENTLY CELEBRATE EVERY EASTER, CHRISTMAS AND THANKSGIVING WITH OUR EXTENDED FAMILIES IN THIS HOME. IT'S DEEPLY PERSONAL TO US. IT REPRESENTS OUR CONNECTION TO THE COMMUNITY WHERE I GREW UP, WHERE MY FAMILY STILL RESIDES, AND WHERE WE HOPE TO SPEND MORE OF OUR FUTURE. BECAUSE OF THAT, PRESERVING THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO US. WE HAVE PERSONALLY SPOKEN TO ALL OF OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS WHOSE PROPERTY BORDER OUR PROPERTY, EVEN ACROSS THE STREET, AND WANT THEM TO FEEL COMFORTABLE KNOWING THAT WE WILL ALWAYS PRIORITIZE THEIR PEACE AND QUALITY OF LIFE. WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO HESITATION IN TERMINATING A RENTAL AGREEMENT. SHOULD ANY GUESTS FAIL TO RESPECT OUR NEIGHBORS OR VIOLATE OUR HOUSE RULES. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A PETITION ORIGINATING FROM RESIDENTS OF CREEK RIDGE SUBDIVISION PREVENT US FROM DOING THE TERM RENTAL. IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR PROPERTY IS NOT A PART OF THE CREEK RIDGE SUBDIVISION, NOR DO ANY OF ITS RESIDENTS DRIVE PAST OUR HOME, OR EVEN HAVE A VISUAL LINE OF SIGHT TO OUR HOME WHEN TRAVELING TO AND FROM THEIR OWN HOME. NEVERTHELESS, IF ANY NEIGHBOR IN THE CREEK RIDGE AREA HAS AN ISSUE WITH A RENTER OF OUR PROPERTY, THEY ARE WELCOME TO CONTACT US AND WE WILL ADDRESS ALL OF THEIR CONCERNS ACCORDINGLY. WE. WE HAVE THE SAME FEARS THEY HAVE. WE REALLY LIKE THIS HOUSE. WE DON'T WANT SOMEBODY DESTROYING IT. WE DON'T WANT ANYONE HAVING ANY PARTIES. WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE LOUD AND DISRUPTIVE. WE'RE PERSONALLY CLOSE WITH ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS AROUND US, AND ALL OF THOSE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS WHOSE PROPERTY BORDERS OURS HAVE GIVEN THEIR WRITTEN CONSENT IN SUPPORT OF US DOING THIS. WE ASKED THEM AND TOLD THEM AND WARNED THEM BEFORE WE EVEN PUT IN AN APPLICATION. SO OUR MOTIVATION IS NOT IN MAXIMIZING OCCUPANCY OR PROFITS. IT'S NOT A BUSINESS VENTURE FOR US IN THE TRADITIONAL SENSE. WE'RE NOT FOCUSED ON MAXIMIZING INCOME OR GETTING FIVE STAR REVIEWS. IF ANYTHING, WE HOPE TO RENT THE HOME ONLY OCCASIONALLY AND WHENEVER POSSIBLE TO FRIENDS, FAMILY OR GUESTS WHO WILL APPRECIATE AND CARE FOR THE PROPERTY AS WE DO, WE SIMPLY WANT TO REMAIN IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH TROUP COUNTY'S ORDINANCES WHENEVER WE CHOOSE TO SHARE OUR HOME, SHOULD ANY ISSUE EVER ARISE. OUR LOCAL SUPPORT SYSTEM IS CLOSE BY. MY PARENTS LIVE SEVEN MILES DOWN THE ROAD AND AS WELL AS MY BROTHER, HE LIVES IN TOWN AND THEY ARE AVAILABLE AS IMMEDIATE LOCAL CONTACTS IF NEEDED. WE ALSO INTEND TO REMAIN ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN MANAGING THE PROPERTY OURSELVES AND ENSURING IT IS MAINTAINED TO A HIGH STANDARD. THIS HOUSE JUST ALLOWS US TO COME BACK AND RETURN TO LAGRANGE, SPEND TIME WITH FAMILY, HELP CARE FOR MY PARENTS AS THEY GROW OLDER, ENJOY THE COMMUNITY EVENTS AND OUR FRIENDS THAT ARE HERE AND EVENTUALLY RETURN HERE TO LIVE OURSELVES. SO. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO IT AT ALL THAT I MISSED? SHE SUMMED UP A LOT OF IT. YEAH, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE A PROFIT ON THIS PLACE. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO OFFSET SOME COST AND DO IT VERY RESPONSIBLY. ALL YOU HAVE IS MY WORD ON THAT. BUT YOU HAVE MY WORD. AS A MARINE CORPS RETIRED MARINE CORPS OFFICER, NAVAL AVIATOR, AND A MAN OF INTEGRITY. AND I HOPE THAT'S TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. I KNOW THERE IS A PETITION. I HATE THAT THERE IS ONE, BECAUSE I NEVER HEARD FROM ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE SIGNED THAT PETITION, WHICH THEY JUST COME AND TALK TO US. AND MAYBE THIS COULD HAVE BEEN SORTED OUT DIFFERENTLY AND IN A MORE POSITIVE MANNER. IS THAT CLOSE TO OUR NEIGHBORS WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM, OTHER THAN JUST COMING IN THIS MORNING AND HEARING ABOUT IT. AND SO WE DIDN'T GO INTO CREEK RIDGE. I DIDN'T GO INTO CREEK RIDGE AND [00:35:03] ASK THEM IF THEY WERE FOR OR AGAINST, JUST BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK OUR HOME IMPACTED THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT THEY DO FEEL LIKE IT DOES. THERE ARE SOME NEIGHBORS IN CREEK RIDGE WHO WERE WILLING TO COME THIS MORNING IN SUPPORT OF US, AND I ASKED THEM. I DID SAY TO THEM IT WASN'T NECESSARY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PIT THEM AGAINST THEIR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS. I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING TO DO. SO I ASK THEM TO JUST NOT COME IN. AND BECAUSE THEY DON'T NEED TO BE ARGUING INSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD OVER SOMETHING THAT'S, WE JUST NEVER INTENDED FOR IT TO BE AN ISSUE. WE JUST WE'RE NOT INVESTORS. WE JUST WANT TO COVER THE COST OF, OF MAINTAINING THE HOME. WE DO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL EMAIL WHERE SOMEONE EMAILED US AND TOLD US THAT THEY SIGNED THE PETITION, THINKING THAT THE HOME WAS INSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT THEY WERE LED TO BELIEVE THAT THE HOME WAS INSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IT'S NOT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE OTHER SIGNERS OF THE PETITION WERE LED TO BELIEVE THE SAME THING. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD FOR THEM DIRECTLY? OF COURSE. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO COMPLIMENT YOU ON THE PACKAGE THAT YOU PREPARED. IT WAS VERY WELL PREPARED, MUCH BETTER THAN THE ONES WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST, GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF OPPOSITION 60 TO 6, WHICH I THINK WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO, WOULD IT NOT MAKE MORE SENSE AS A COMPROMISE TO CONSIDER LONGER TERM RENTALS, TO TAKE YOU OUT OF THE SHORT TERM RENTAL APPLICATION, TRY TO SOLVE YOUR MAINTENANCE, CARE OF MAINTENANCE, POINT OF VIEW, AND I GET THAT. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED LONGER TERM DIDN'T WORK FOR US BECAUSE WE COME BACK TO THE HOUSE VERY FREQUENTLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO THINGS NOW. YEAH, LONG TERM IS OVER 30 DAYS, CORRECT? RIGHT. BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A FINANCIAL ISSUE, WHICH I WILL UNDERSTAND. AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PERSONAL USE ENJOYMENT ISSUE. AND I, AND I GET THAT. YEAH. BUT SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO HAVE BOTH, RIGHT? I THINK FOR US, IT'S JUST IF WE CAN'T HAVE SOMEWHERE TO STAY, WHEN I COME TO VISIT MY FAMILY, I DON'T KNOW, THAT WOULD BE WORTH IT TO US TO KEEP THE PROPERTY. SO OUR PARENTS ARE OLDER. THEY'RE GOING TO START REQUIRING CARE. THIS IS A GOOD PLACE FOR US, I THINK. I KNOW YOU DID, YEAH, YEAH. SO IT DOES MAKE IT EASIER. AND TO BE ABLE TO SHORT TERM RENTAL, WE'RE ABLE TO ADJUST WHEN WE CAN COME AND ENJOY IT AND SPEND TIME WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY. WE STILL ALL HIS SIDE OF THE FAMILY AND MY SIDE OF THE FAMILY, WE DO EASTER, THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS AT THIS HOUSE AND I LONG TERM RENT IT. THEN WE'RE ALL SPLIT AGAIN BECAUSE A LOT OF HIS FAMILY IS IN MONTGOMERY AND FLORIDA, AND THEN ALSO IN COBB COUNTY AND PAULDING COUNTY. SO LAGRANGE IS LIKE THE PERFECT MIDDLE MEDIUM. I HEAR YOU SAY THIS IS A SHORT TERM THAT YOU'LL BE COMING BACK AT SOME POINT, NOT TOO LONG TERM. WE'D LIKE TO, ONCE I RETIRE, THE KIDS ARE OUT OF THE HOUSE. YES, SIR. WE LOVE IT THERE. IT'S A GREAT PLACE. LIKE, WE GOT A GREAT PIECE OF PROPERTY AND WE'VE PUT A LOT OF HARD WORK INTO IT. WE RENOVATED A LOT OF IT, AND AND WE'D LIKE TO I'M JUST TRYING TO ENCOURAGE YOU, IF IT'S SHORT TERM, THAT YOU'RE COMING BACK ANYWAY, A YEAR OR 2 OR 3, THAT YOU MIGHT LONG TERM RENT IT TO HELP WITH THE FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS. WE'VE CONSIDERED IT, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. WE'VE CONSIDERED. MONTH TO MONTH RENTAL IS OVER 30 DAYS. MAYBE WITH THE EXECUTIVES. I'M NOT SURE THE IDEA OF RENTING IT LONG TERM. I GUESS WE'RE JUST WE DON'T WANT TO BECOME LANDLORDS IN THE ASPECT THAT WE HAVE TO COMPLETELY FIX THE HOME AFTER SOMEONE'S OCCUPIED IT FOR A YEAR OR TWO YEARS AS A LONG TERM RENTER, WE'RE JUST WE DON'T HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THAT. AND FRIENDS OF OURS THAT HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE JUST TELL US OVER AND OVER, YOUR HOME IS GOING TO GET DESTROYED. SO WE THOUGHT WE COULD BE MORE SELECTIVE WITH SHORT TERM RENTALS. AS SOMEONE WHO'S HAD SHORT TERM RENTALS, NOT HERE, BUT IN FLORIDA, I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S INTENSE MANAGEMENT ON A SHORT TERM RENTAL EVERY WEEK YEAR ROUND. RIGHT? RIGHT. AND WE'RE PREPARED FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS. ANYBODY ELSE? WE'RE GETTING INTO BUSINESS AND NOT OUR BUSINESS. SO. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, I SEE OPPOSITION, I ASSUME ON THIS SIDE. ALRIGHT. DO YOU HAVE A SPOKESPERSON? OKAY. WELL IF YOU'D COME UP FIRST, WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME TIME. AND I LIKE MEGAN. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE UP HERE. SO I ALSO WROTE, I WROTE MINE DOWN SO I COULD STAY FOCUSED AND RESPECTFUL OF Y'ALL'S TIME. BUT THANK YOU. THIS MORNING, CHAIRPERSON AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MY NAME IS DINA SIMMONS. I'M A LOCAL REAL ESTATE AGENT HERE IN TOWN, AND I'VE LIVED IN CREEK RIDGE FOR 22 YEARS AT 141 CREEK RIDGE DRIVE. I'M STANDING HERE TODAY WITH OTHER RESIDENTS ALONGSIDE WITH ME IN OPPOSITION TO THE SHORT TERM RENTAL. WE [00:40:04] HAD AN ILLEGAL SHORT TERM RENTAL POP UP IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BACK IN 2023 WITH OWNED BY AN OUT OF TOWN OWNER, AND IT WAS A NIGHTMARE. WE. WHEN HE WENT AND APPLIED FOR THE VARIANCE HE HAD THE PRIOR TWO MONTHS. BEEN ALREADY DOING IT AND WE AGAIN GOT A PETITION UP, WHICH WE HAVE A COPY OF IT HERE TODAY. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE THOSE SIGNATURES AS WELL. IT REALLY HASN'T CHANGED MUCH EXCEPT FOR THE ONES THAT. MEGAN, I THINK Y'ALL GOT AN EMAIL FROM PATRICK MULVANEY. HE SIGNED THE PETITION PREVIOUSLY AGAINST AN AIRBNB IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, AND MOST OF OUR NEIGHBORS CONSIDER YOU CAN SEE WE'RE ON A PENINSULA HERE. AND MOST OF OUR NEIGHBORS CONSIDER OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STARTING AS SOON AS YOU COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE MAC, MAC, PUT THE SIGN RIGHT HERE SAYING CREEK BRIDGE. THIS IS ALL COMMUNITY. WE WE KNOW EACH OTHER AND, AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF. BUT OKAY, BACK ON POINT. RESIDENTIAL ZONING IS DESIGNED TO PROTECT THE PEACE, LONG TERM, LONG TERM STABILITY AND QUIET ENJOYMENT OF THE PERMANENT RESIDENTS. OUR STREETS ARE FILLED WITH FAMILIES, PREDOMINANTLY RETIREES ON FIXED INCOMES, CONVERTING 120 ROY STALLINGS INTO A REVOLVING DOOR OF TRANSIENT GUESTS SHIFTS THE PROPERTY FROM RESIDENTIAL USE TO A COMMERCIAL LODGING BUSINESS. THIS OPENS THE DOOR FOR MORE INVESTORS TO OVERPAY FOR PROPERTIES CAUSING ARTIFICIAL INFLATION IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. FAIR MARKET VALUES. NOW, I KNOW THEY MENTIONED THEY'RE NOT INVESTORS, BUT IT DOES TRIGGER OTHER INVESTORS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, SITTING HERE, I GOT A TEXT MESSAGE FROM SOMEONE SAYING, HEY, DEAN, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT HOMES BY 141 CREEK RIDGE. ARE YOU OPEN TO A QUICK CHAT? SO THEY'RE ARE THEY ALREADY KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING ON? AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO CAUSE ARTIFICIAL INFLATION IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT TRIGGERS THE TAX ASSESSORS TO ANALYZE RECENT SALES. AND WHEN INVESTORS, THEY DON'T MIND OVERPAYING A PROPERTY FOR A PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO REAP THEIR MONEY BACK WITH RENTING IT OUT. AND SO BUT IT CREATES A UNJUST, HEAVY BURDEN FOR US LONG TERM AND FIXED INCOME RESIDENTS ON OUR STREETS WHO ARE FORCED TO PAY HIGHER PROPERTY TAX ON ARTIFICIAL HOME VALUES, DRIVEN BY SHORT TERM RENTAL NEXT DOOR. THIS HAPPENS IN ATLANTA ALL THE TIME. I HAVE A CLIENT IN JONESBOROUGH THAT IS STRUGGLING WITH HOW HER TAXES KEEP GOING UP AND UP, BECAUSE ALL THESE INVESTORS ARE COMING IN BUYING PROPERTY AROUND HER. AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT MEGAN AND THEM'S THEY'RE NOT INVESTORS, BUT THIS IS HOW THIS GOES. AND I KNOW THIS FROM BEING IN THE REAL ESTATE MARKET. ANOTHER EFFECT THAT CAN ALSO HAPPEN IS IT BRING THE OVERALL APPEAL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DOWN. BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE A BUSINESS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT CAUSES US TO LOSE VALUE OR POSSIBLY NOT BE ABLE TO SELL OUR HOMES, BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BE AROUND A SHORT TERM RENTAL. WE'VE ALL HEARD THE HORROR STORIES AND ALL OF THIS KIND OF STUFF. AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE STATE JANUARY, I MEAN, JULY THE 1ST ISSUED AN ANTI TRAFFIC MANDATE WHERE THEY HAVE TO TAKE A CLASS. HOLD ON. I TOOK A PICTURE OF IT. IT WAS JANUARY, JULY THE 1ST THAT THEY HAVE TO TAKE A SHORT TERM APPROVED HUMAN TRAFFICKING AWARENESS TRAINING PROGRAM WITHIN 60 DAYS OF LAUNCHING AND REPEAT IT ANNUALLY. SO THE STATE RECOGNIZES THAT SHORT TERM RENTALS CAN BE AN ISSUE. WE'VE ALREADY EXPERIENCED IT AS A NEIGHBORHOOD, IT BEING AN ISSUE. SO IF THE BOARD GRANTS A VARIANCE IN THIS SPECIFIC RESIDENTIAL STRETCH, IT SIGNALS TO OUT OF TOWN INVESTORS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD IS OPEN FOR COMMERCIAL EXPLOITATION. THIS TRIGGERS THE LONG TERM OR THIS THREATENS THE LONG TERM HOUSING STOCK INTENDED FOR LOCAL LAGRANGE FAMILIES. BECAUSE Y'ALL KNOW WE ALREADY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOFTOPS. THAT'S WHY ALL THESE APARTMENTS ARE POPPING UP. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HOMES TO PUT PEOPLE IN. SO WE'VE TURNED IN A PETITION, WHICH I THINK YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT, WITH 89% OF OUR PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION OF THE SHORT TERM RENTAL TO BE PLACED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, PLEASE. AND THIS IS WHAT I TOLD MEGAN AND HER HUSBAND EARLIER. THIS IS NOT PERSONAL. IT'S NOT PERSONAL. WE ARE TRYING TO ONLY PRESERVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OUR SWEET LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE PEOPLE GET OUT AND WALK. WE WALK DOWN ROY STALLINGS. SO NO, I MIGHT NOT DRIVE BY THAT HOUSE GETTING TO MY HOUSE, BUT I WALK BY THAT HOUSE. THERE'S A DAY CAMP DOWN THERE AND THE, THE WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS, THIS CORPS PROPERTY OUT THERE, AND WE FIND TRASH ALL THE TIME ON THE ROAD GOING IN. GOTTA CUT YOU OFF. YES, SIR. WRAP IT UP, PLEASE. [00:45:05] OKAY. PLEASE UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT PERSONAL. THE BEST ANALOGY I CAN COME UP WITH, WITH ALLOWING A SHORT TERM RENTAL IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS SOMEONE THROWING A ROCK INTO THE LAKE, AND IT CAUSES RIPPLES. AND THOSE RIPPLES ARE GOING TO AFFECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THAT ROCK BEING IN THERE. SHE PURCHASED THE HOME, LIKE SHE SAID, BECAUSE SHE LOVED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SHE LOVED WHAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS COMPRISED OF AND ALL OF THAT. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS LIKE THE SHOW CHEERS, WHERE EVERYBODY KNOWS YOUR NAME, AND WE LEND A HELPING HAND TO THOSE IN NEED. IF YOU LOSE YOUR PET, WE FORM A SEARCH PARTY, ETC. SO WE'RE NOT REALLY JUST A NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'RE A FAMILY. SO IN CLOSING, WE WOULD LIKE JUST TO. WE ARE NOT. IN CLOSING, WE ARE NOT AGAINST PROPERTY OWNERS RIGHTS. BUT THOSE RIGHTS SHOULD NOT COME AT THE EXPENSE OF THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. SAFETY, PEACE AND POSSIBLE RISING PROPERTY VALUES. SO WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU DENY THE SHORT TERM RENTAL PERMIT FOR $120. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GONNA READ MINE AS WELL. GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MY NAME IS PAM MURPHY AND I LIVE AT 49 WOODING PLACE. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY HUSBAND OF 40 YEARS, MIKE MURPHY, AND THE RESIDENTS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ARE HERE TO FORMALLY OPPOSE THE SHORT TERM RENTAL PERMIT FOR 120 VOICE STALLINGS, SUBMITTED BY MEGAN HUBBARD. AND AGAIN, IT IS NOTHING PERSONAL. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS A QUIET, COHESIVE, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, AND IN INTRODUCING A COMMERCIAL, TRANSIENT LODGING BUSINESS DIRECTLY CONFLICTS WITH THE SAFETY, THE CHARACTER AND THE ZONING INTENT OF OUR STREETS. WE HAVE PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED THE DISRUPTION THAT SHORT TERM RENTALS CAN BRING TO AN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. OUR CURRENT. OUR CONCERN IS NOT SIMPLY THAT A PROPERTY IS BEING RENTED, BUT THAT THE SHORT TERM RENTAL GUESTS OFTEN HAVE LITTLE CONNECTION TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE AWARENESS OF HOW THEIR ACTIONS AFFECT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE EVERY DAY. YOU TRULY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE NEGATIVE IMPACT A SHORT TERM RENTAL CAN HAVE ON YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UNTIL YOU HAVE EXPERIENCED IT FIRSTHAND, WHICH WE HAVE WHAT MAY APPEAR ON PAPER TO BE A SIMPLE RENTAL AGREEMENT CAN HAVE REAL CONSEQUENCES FOR THE FAMILIES WHO LIVE NEARBY. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS ONE WHERE FAMILIES REGULARLY WALK AND EXERCISE AND ENJOY BEING OUTDOORS. WITH SHORT TERM RENTALS, WE HAVE EXPERIENCED VEHICLES TRAVELING AT UNSAFE SPEEDS WITH LITTLE REGARDS FOR PEDESTRIANS. WE HAVE ALSO HAD TRUCKS PULLING BOATS, BLOCKING OUR DRIVEWAYS, DRIVING ONTO PRIVATE YARDS, DAMAGING GRASS, AND THEY HAVE RUN OVER SPRINKLER SYSTEMS. THE HEADS ON THE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS. THERE ARE ALSO SERIOUS CONCERNS INVOLVING PRIVATE PROPERTY. SHORT TERM RENTERS GATHERED ON PRIVATE DOCKS AS THOUGH THEY WERE PUBLIC PROPERTY, AND I'M NOT SURE I THINK YOU HAVE A DOCK AS WELL. AND WE CAN SEE THEIR HOME, WHICH I KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT USED TO LIVE THERE, BUT WE CAN SEE THEIR HOME WHEN WE'RE ON OUR BOAT AND ON OUR DOCKS. IN SOME INSTANCES, WE'VE HAD TO TELL INDIVIDUALS FROM SHORT TERM RENTALS THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE CONTACTED BEFORE THEY WOULD LEAVE. AS RESIDENTS, WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO CONFRONT UNFAMILIAR GUESTS OR THREATEN POLICE INVOLVEMENT SIMPLY TO PROTECT THE USE AND PRIVACY OF OUR OWN PROPERTY. NOISE IS ALSO A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN. LOUD MUSIC AND GATHERINGS HAVE CONTINUED LATE INTO THE EVENING, AND WERE DISRUPTIVE ENOUGH THAT MY HUSBAND AND I WOULD HAVE TO TURN UP THE VOLUME ON OUR OWN TV INSIDE OUR LIVING ROOM TO EVEN HEAR IT, THE PROPERTY OWNER ASSURED US AS NEIGHBORS THAT PROBLEMS COULD BE HANDLED AS THEY AROSE. HOWEVER, BECAUSE THE OWNER LIVED MANY HOURS AWAY, THERE WAS NO IMMEDIATE WAY TO ADDRESS THOSE SITUATIONS WHEN THEY OCCURRED. THAT LEFT THE SURROUNDING HOMEOWNERS TO DEAL WITH THE DISRUPTION. WHILE WAITING FOR SOMEONE WHO IS NOT PRESENT IN THE COMMUNITY TO RESPOND, I BELIEVE THE RESPONSE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. THERE ARE MORE SIGNATURES ON THE PETITION OPPOSING THE ROY STALLINGS REQUEST, AND THERE WERE ON THE PETITION CONCERNING THE WOODING PLACE REQUEST. I TRULY BELIEVE THAT IN PART, THAT IS A REFLECTION OF THE PROBLEMS AND DISRUPTIONS THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ALREADY EXPERIENCED WITH SHORT TERM RENTALS. WHEN WE PURCHASED OUR HOME, WE DID IT WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT WE WOULD BE LIVING IN A STABLE, STABLE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY WITH OUR PRIVACY, PROPERTY AND QUALITY OF LIFE, THAT IT WOULD BE RESPECTED AS WE RETIRE AND SPEND OUR LATTER YEARS THERE. THE ISSUES WE HAVE EXPERIENCED WITH SHORT TERM RENTALS HAVE CHANGED THAT SENSE OF STABILITY AND SECURITY. OUR REQUEST IS SIMPLY THAT THE BOARD WOULD [00:50:03] CONSIDER THE SAFETY, PRIVACY, PROPERTY RIGHTS AND QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE PERMANENT RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE EVERY DAY WHEN MAKING ITS DECISION. WE ARE NOT ANTI PROPERTY RIGHTS. WE ARE PRO ZONING INTEGRITY. THE APPLICANT PURCHASED THIS HOME IN A STABLE RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THE SAFETY, WELL-BEING AND ZONING EXPECTATION EXPECTATIONS OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY COMMUNITY SHOULD BE UPHELD. WE STRONGLY URGE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND BOARD OF ZONING TO RECOMMEND A DENIAL FOR THIS APPLICATION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR CONSIDERATION AND YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF TROUP COUNTY. YOU MUST HAVE TIMED THAT WHEN YOU READ IT. EXCUSE ME, I HAD A I HAD A COMMENT, BUT WHO WAS THIS OTHER PROBLEM WITH? WE HAD A SHORT TERM RENTAL THAT POPPED UP AT 42. AN ILLEGAL SHORT TERM. YES IT WAS. DID Y'ALL DO ABOUT IT? WE SIGNED THE PETITION. WHAT DID YOU DO ABOUT IT OTHER THAN A PETITION? OH, THERE WAS NOTHING WE COULD DO. WE SUFFERED THE. YOU CALL THE COPS WHENEVER THEY HAD PROBLEMS. WE DID. THEY DIDN'T SOLVE THEM. WELL, HERE'S THE THING. YOU HAVE. AND NOW THEY HAVE A LONG TERM RENTAL THERE. AND JUST LAST MONTH WE COULD NOT GET MY. WE. IT WAS A. IT WAS VERY HARD FOR US TO GET OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET EMERGENCY CARE, BECAUSE WE CAN GO UP THERE AND ASK THEM TO MOVE THEIR CARS. AND IN THAT INSTANCE, BECAUSE IT WAS AN EMERGENCY, I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT CALLING THE POLICE BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO GET MY SON TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM, WHO ALMOST HAD TO BE LIFE FLIGHTED. AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE A RESIDENT AND YOU'RE OLDER, YOU DON'T LIKE TO GO AND CONFRONT THE NEIGHBORS. BECAUSE IN THE NEWS HERE IN TROUP COUNTY SEVERAL YEARS AGO, A NEIGHBOR DID THAT AND HE WAS PHYSICALLY HARMED. OH, YEAH. SO WE DON'T WANT TO GO NEXT DOOR. WE DIDN'T GO NEXT DOOR WHEN THE SHORT TERM RENTALS WERE THERE. NOW THAT I KNOW MY RIGHTS AS FAR AS CALLING THE POLICE AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FOR THAT, I WILL BE DOING THAT MORE CONSISTENTLY. OKAY, SO THAT SHORT TERM GUY IS GONE AND NOW IT'S JUST A MONTH TO MONTH RENTAL. IT IS A LONG TERM. HE HAS A RENTER. YES. HE'S GOT A BAD RENTER IN THERE. YES. OKAY. YES. AND WE SUFFER THAT CONSEQUENCE. BUT IT IS A LONG TERM RENTAL. AND NOW THAT WE KNOW OUR RIGHTS AS FAR AS CONTACTING POLICE EVERY TIME THEY'RE ILLEGALLY PARKED, WE LIVE IN A CUL DE SAC. AND SO MY GRANDCHILDREN CAN'T EVEN TAKE THEIR BIKES OUT ANYMORE. SO IT IS A REAL ISSUE IN. UNTIL YOU EXPERIENCE IT FIRSTHAND, YOU REALLY. IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND. IT LOOKS GREAT ON PAPER. IT DOES, I GET THAT. BUT WHEN YOU LIVE IT, IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS STEVE HARRIS. I LIVE WITH MY WIFE AT 116 CREEK RIDGE DRIVE. I'M SPEAKING TODAY IN OPPOSITION FOR TO THIS APPLICATION. I DON'T KNOW, MR. AND MRS. HUBBARD. I'VE SEEN MR. HERB HUBBARD ONE TIME, I THINK, AND I ALMOST LAUGHED WHEN HE SAID, WELL, SHE SAID THAT THEY HOST A LOT OF HOLIDAY, I MEAN THANKSGIVING AND ALL EVENTS THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN I SAW THEM. IT WAS A, IT WAS A HOME FULL OF FAMILY AND IT WAS VERY NICE. WE WALKED DOWN THAT AREA. IT'S A DEAD END STREET THAT GOES ON TO COURT PROPERTY, AND IT'S RIGHT AT THE CREST OF A HILL. BUT I'M SPEAKING HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION REGARDING THE ENFORCEMENT AND THE EROSION OF CREEK RIDGE SUBDIVISION. FIRST OF ALL, THE BURDEN THAT'S PUT ON EVERYBODY WITH UNMONITORED ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE THE PETITIONER WILL OPERATE THIS PROPERTY AS AN ABSENTEE COMMERCIAL HOST. SHE NOR HE WILL BE THERE AT 2 A.M. WHEN GUESTS ARE BEING DISRUPTIVE, IF THEY'RE BEING DISRUPTIVE. TROUP COUNTY'S CODE ENFORCEMENT AND SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ARE ALREADY BUSY AND UNDERSTAFFED. THEY DO NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO ACT AS A 24 OVER SEVEN HOTEL SECURITY TEAM FOR 120 ROY STALLINGS ROAD. IF THIS PERMIT IS APPROVED, THE COUNTY IS EFFECTIVELY FORCING US, THE RESIDENTS, TO BECOME THE UNCOMPENSATED FOR PROPERTY MANAGER AND CONSTANTLY MONITORING NOISE, CHECKING FOR OVERFLOWING TRASH AND CALLING VIOLATIONS. IN. MY WIFE AND I USED TO WALK DOWN ROY STALLINGS WHEN WE FIRST MOVED HERE THREE YEARS AGO, AND WE'RE, OF COURSE, RETIREES AND WE WOULD TOP THE [00:55:01] HILL RIGHT THERE AT ROY STALLINGS, WALKING DOWN, WALKING DOWN THE ROAD. AND IF WE SEE CARS PARKED ON YOUR PROPERTY, WHETHER THEY'RE FISHING OR WHETHER THEY'RE PARKING, HAVING LUNCH OR WHATEVER THE REASON, THEY'RE WE WOULD STOP, TURN AROUND AND WE JUST WOULDN'T GO, GO DOWN THERE. I HAVE A PISTOL LICENSE AND I WOULD CARRY A PISTOL WITH ME, BUT IT'S JUST NOT WORTH IT TO CONFRONT PEOPLE OR TO PUT YOURSELF OR YOUR OR MY WIFE IN THOSE KIND OF SITUATIONS. SO THE CHARACTER OF WHO MAY BE THERE AND JUST NOT KNOWING IS A BIG DEAL FOR US. THE PROPERTIES ON OUR STREET ARE DESIGNATED MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, NOT COMMERCIAL. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD RELIES ON ITS QUIET, PREDICTABLE ENVIRONMENT. TRANSITIONING ROY STALLINGS ROAD INTO AN UNMONITORED REVOLVING DOOR. HOTEL CHANGES THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CORE CHARACTER. IT'S JUST NOT COMPATIBLE. THE TROUP COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PLAN EXPLICITLY EMPHASIZES PROTECTING THE STABILITY OF ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. A NEIGHBORHOOD IS JUST A COLLECTION OF BUILDINGS. IT'S A NETWORK OF NEIGHBORS WHO WATCH OUT FOR EACH OTHER, WATCH OUT FOR EACH OTHER'S KIDS, THEIR DOGS, THEIR PETS. WE BOUGHT OUR HOME HERE PRECISELY, PRECISELY BECAUSE IT WAS RENT. IT WAS. IT WAS ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL. WE CAME FROM LAGRANGE. WE'RE NOT I'M NOT FROM WE CAME FROM NEWNAN. WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T MOVE OUT HERE. I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN ATLANTA. SO WAS MY WIFE. WE CAME HERE BECAUSE NEWNAN JUST GOT TOO COMPLEX, TOO CROWDED, AND THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS NEVER SAW A ZONING REQUEST THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH, THAT THEY DISAPPROVED OF. AND WE CAME HERE AND WE LOVE IT. WE LOVE LAGRANGE. YOU GUYS ARE DOING A FABULOUS JOB. THANK YOU FOR CREATING SUCH A NICE ENVIRONMENT HERE. IF EVERYBODY THOUGHT THAT. OKAY. AND MISS, I GUESS YOU'RE THE YOUNG LADY I SPOKE WITH ON THE PHONE. WHAT? WHAT A REPRESENTATIVE TO HAVE. I'M SO PLEASED TO LIVE IN LAGRANGE. I LOVE IT HERE. I HAVEN'T MET ANYBODY THAT WAS EVEN CANTANKEROUS, MUCH LESS VIOLENT. SO AND THAT'S THE REASON I WANT TO TRY TO KEEP IT JUST THE WAY I CAN FOR THE REST OF MY DAYS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? Y'ALL HAD THREE. I GOT A QUESTION. YEAH. GOT QUESTIONS. YEAH. I'M GETTING YEAH. Y'ALL IS A SUBDIVISION. IS IT A SUBDIVISION? YES. HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION DON'T HAVE NO HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION. THIS ACCORDING TO THEM, THIS HOUSE IS NOT IN THAT SUBDIVISION. OH IT'S NOT. OH OKAY. THERE IS NO HOA HERE. AND THAT'S ONE REASON WE MOVED HERE. OH WE OKAY. WE HAD HOA UP IN NEWNAN. AND AND I GOT A LETTER FROM THE HOA BECAUSE BIRDS HAD CRAPPED ON MY MAILBOX AND THEY WANTED ME TO CLEAN IT OFF. I CLEANED IT OFF. MY WIFE RAISED CAIN. SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DIDN'T WANT HOA. WE'RE HAPPY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU THOUGH. YES, MA'AM. I WASN'T PLANNING ON SPEAKING, OKAY. BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS ONE WAY IN. RIGHT? WE ALL KNOW THAT. BUT IT'S IT'S NOT A SUBDIVISION SUBDIVIDED ALL AT THE SAME TIME. LIKE YOUR, YOUR WHEN YOU GO IN UP TO THE RIGHT WAS A SUBDIVISION. THESE WERE INDIVIDUALLY BUILT EARLIER OR AT DIFFERENT TIMES. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YES. EVEN THOUGH IT APPEARS THAT WE ARE SEPARATE, WE ARE NOT SEPARATE WHEN IT COMES TO THE LAKEFRONT. WE ARE ALL TOGETHER. THEIR DOCK IS TWO DOCKS DOWN FROM MY DOC. AND SO WHILE IT MIGHT APPEAR IN MY LAND BACKS UP TO ALMOST. THERE'S A HOUSE BEHIND ME AND DO WHAT I CAN DO. OKAY, SO THE NOISE COULD BE AFFECTED BECAUSE IT WILL CARRY BECAUSE OF THE LAKE. OKAY, THAT'S ON THE COURT, RIGHT? THEY BOTH THEY ALL BOARDED THE COURT. AN ENGINEER. OKAY, OKAY, OKAY. WALK THROUGH THE WATERFRONT. AND I JUST POPPED UP ON THE DOCK WHEREVER I MIGHT. SOMETIMES I OPEN BOATS. EXCUSE ME, CAN YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE? WELL, WE'VE DONE WE'RE OUT OF TIME ON THAT. WE LET THE APPLICANT HAVE A FEW MOMENTS TO REBUT. IF YOU WANT TO. JUST SHORT AND SWEET. YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY. FIRST OF ALL, I GUESS IT'S PRETTY MUCH BEEN [01:00:03] ESTABLISHED. THIS IS NOT A LEGAL. WE'RE NOT SETTING UP ANYTHING ILLEGALLY. SECONDLY, WE'RE NOT PART OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. WHEN YOU TURN INTO WHEN YOU TURN DOWN ROY STALLINGS ROAD, YOU MAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN. WE'RE OFF TO THE LEFT. THERE'S NO BLOCKING. NOBODY'S ALLOWED TO HAVE A BOAT OUT THERE AT OUR PLACE THAT'S ALREADY GOING TO BE ESTABLISHED. SO NO BOATS ARE GOING TO BLOCK ANYONE'S DRIVEWAY. NO CARS ARE GOING TO BLOCK ANYONE'S DRIVEWAY. THEY ARE A SEPARATE NEIGHBORHOOD ENTIRELY. WE'RE NOT PART OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'RE NOT PART OF ANY HOA. THEY'RE WE DON'T BLOCK THEM IN THE LEAST. THAT DOES. EXCUSE ME. THAT DOES RAISE A QUESTION. BASED ON THE PHOTOGRAPHS. I HAVEN'T BEEN TO THE SITE. YES, SIR. I THINK THE APPLICATION SAYS OR THE STAFF REPORT SAID PARKING FOR UP TO FOUR VEHICLES. IS THAT CORRECT? CAN HOW CAN YOU PARK? LOOKING JUST AT THE PHOTOGRAPH? IT LOOKS LIKE JUST A STRAIGHT DRIVEWAY TO YOUR GARAGE. THERE'S A STRAIGHT DRIVEWAY TO THE GARAGE. IT'S CIRCULAR THAT THE HORSESHOE THERE. THERE'S PARKING SPACES FOR TWO VEHICLES THERE AND YOU COULD GET YOU COULD GET TWO VEHICLES RIGHT UP THERE IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE IF YOU WANTED TO. NO MORE THAN THAT'S ALLOWED. LIKE I SAID, WE'RE KEEPING THIS VERY SMALL AND QUIET. OUR NEIGHBORS, EVERY IMMEDIATE NEIGHBOR, INCLUDING THE ONES ACROSS THE STREET, HAVE ALL SIGNED OFF ON IT, THAT THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT. WE'RE VERY GOOD FRIENDS WITH THEM. I ACTUALLY KNOW THEM AS OPPOSED TO THEY SAY COMMUNITY AND EVERYONE KNOWS EVERYONE'S NAME. WE'VE NEVER MET ANY OF THESE PEOPLE. THEY'VE NEVER INTRODUCED THEMSELVES TO US. I WOULD NEVER GO INTO THE CREEK RIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD TO ASK FOR A BOWL OF SUGAR IF I NEEDED ONE. THEY'RE VERY FOREIGN TO US, OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS. THEY LOVE US. WE LOVE THEM. I WOULD GO NEXT DOOR TO THEM. BOB AND LAUREL TAYLOR, WHO LIVE IMMEDIATELY BEHIND US, WHO'S DAUGHTER AND SON IN LAW LIVE RIGHT NEXT DOOR IN ONE, FIVE, FOUR. THAT WAS OUR PREVIOUS HOME, AND OUR PREVIOUS HOME WAS THERE. LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE FINE WITH ALL OF THIS. THEY'RE THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CALL US IMMEDIATELY. IF IT DOES GET TOO LOUD AND YOU CAN PROBABLY LOOK UP LAUREL'S RECORDS, SHE'S NOT GOING TO LET ANYTHING GO UNDERNEATH THE SITE OF THE SHERIFF. LIKE, IF THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON, LAUREL IS GOING TO LET US KNOW. SHE PROBABLY CALLS THE POLICE. ON ANY SHENANIGANS GOING ON AT THE END OF ROY STALLINGS ROAD BECAUSE THEY'VE LIVED THERE. THE REGULATIONS REQUIRE A LOCAL CONTACT, DON'T THEY? YES. WITHIN 30 MILES. YEAH. THEY'RE UP THERE SEVEN MILES DOWN THE STREET. OKAY. 54. MY PARENTS HAVE HEARTS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE HEARD BOTH SIDES AND READ NUMEROUS PIECES OF PAPER ABOUT THIS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, HOW DO YOU HOW DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY. SECOND MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO DENY AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR OF DENYING THIS APPLICATION, RAISE YOUR HAND. WOW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES OUR NOW, THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. YES. THIS IS A REMINDER THAT YOU WILL NEED TO APPEAR AT THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. YES, THEY DO, YOU KNOW. SO YOU GOT TO DO THIS AGAIN NEXT LATER THE FIRST TUESDAY IN OCTOBER AT 5 P.M. SAME PLACE. YEAH. WE JUST TAKE THE HEAT AND THEY MAKE THE FINAL DECISIONS ON MOST THINGS. SO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO, SIR. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO MOVED. PUBLIC IS CLOSED. MOTION TO ADJOURN. EVERYBODY STAND UP AND GO HOME IF YOU WANT TO. THANK * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.