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THANKSGIVING AND ENJOY YOUR TIME WITH FAMILY AND HAD A LOT OF GREAT FOOD. BEFORE WE OPEN, START OUR MEETING THIS MORNING, IF Y'ALL WOULD BOW WITH ME IN A WORD OF PRAYER, OUR GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY TIME THAT WE CAN COME AS LEADERS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES TO DISCUSS MATTERS OF IMPORTANCE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND TO OUR CITIZENS. LORD, WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THE TIME, THE SEASON THAT WE JUST PASSED OF THANKSGIVING, AND HOPEFULLY IT WAS A TIME THAT WE COULD ALL REFLECT ON THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT YOU'VE BESTOWED UPON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US, AND ALSO LIFT UP ALL OUR EMPLOYEES. LORD, BE WITH THEM. GIVE THEM PROTECTION, GIVE THEM STRENGTH. GIVE THEM WISDOM TO DO THE JOB AND SERVE THE CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND NOW I ASK YOU TO BE WITH US DURING THIS TIME TODAY. BE WITH US. WATCH OVER AND GUIDE US. IN THY NAME WE DO PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. ALRIGHT, SO
[1. Discuss Ridley Lake Park Funding Support Request (Bill Bulloch) ]
AT THIS TIME, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE COUNTY MANAGER. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS.FIRST AGENDA IS A DISCUSSION FOR THE RIDLEY LAKE PARK FUNDING SUPPORT. BILL BULLOCK HERE IS FROM THE CITY OF LAGRANGE TO DISCUSS THE REQUEST. THIS WAS A PROJECT THAT STARTED IN 2021, I BELIEVE. YES. AND SO THE PREVIOUS BOARD DID JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, BUT ULTIMATELY THE FUNDING HAD NOT YET COME FORWARD. AND THEREFORE THIS BOARD, I THINK, NEEDS TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT FURTHER SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME TODAY. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GEORGIA OUTDOOR STEWARDSHIP PROJECT ON THE NEXT SLIDE. SOME OF Y'ALL MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT GEORGIA GENERAL ASSEMBLY ESTABLISHED THE GEORGIA OUTDOOR STEWARDSHIP ACT IN 2018. THE GRANT PROGRAM PROVIDES A DEDICATED FUNDING MECHANISM TO SUPPORT PARKS, TRAILS AND PROTECT AND ACQUIRE LANDS CRITICAL TO WILDLIFE, CLEAN WATER, OUTDOOR RECREATION ACROSS THE STATE. IT'S A CONSERVE GEORGIA GRANT. THESE GRANTS ARE MADE AVAILABLE TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CERTAIN WHICH COUNTIES RECEIVED ONE AS WELL.
NON. SOME NON-GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS AND STATE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. IT'S A COMPETITIVE PROCESS. HENCE THE REASON THAT WE NEEDED THE $30,000. AND I'LL GET INTO THAT IN A FEW MINUTES. BUT FIRST I'D LIKE TO GO OVER THE PROJECT AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE REVIEW. JUST STEP TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO IT'S A 44 ACRE PARK. IT'S ON UPPER BIG SPRINGS IN SOUTH DAVIS ROAD, RIGHT ACROSS FROM DIVERSE POWER. IT'S ABOUT A 15 ACRE LAKE THERE. IT WILL BE AN INCLUSIVE PARK, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS A BIG SELL ON THE PROJECT FOR IT TO BE INCLUSIVE.
WHEN WE DID OUR PARK MASTER PLAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CITIZENS TALKED ABOUT WAS THE LACK OF INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND FACILITIES FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. SO THAT WAS A BIG PART OF WHAT WE INCLUDED HERE. THIS WILL BE THE BIGGEST PARK THAT THE CITY HAS AS 44 ACRES.
LIKE I SAID, IT HAS 22,000 SQUARE FOOT OF PLAYGROUND SPACE, WHICH IS BIG. IT'LL HAVE SOME LARGE PAVILIONS FOR PICNICKING, SOME SMALLER PAVILIONS AS WELL. THE THREAD ACTUALLY COMES THROUGH NUTWOOD ACROSS DAVIS, SOUTH DAVIS, AND THEN COME ON TO THE PARK POINT ONE MILE LOOP AROUND THE LAKE, SO IT'LL INCLUDE THE THREAD ALL THE WAY AROUND. ADEQUATE PARKING.
THERE'S FISHING PIERS, SO WE'LL HAVE FISHING ON THE LAKE AS WELL. PEOPLE ALREADY TRY TO FISH THERE, SO THIS WILL BE A LEGAL WAY FOR THEM TO. SO AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A KAYAK LAUNCH.
SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY RENT KAYAKS THERE AND GET OUT ON THE LAKE AND KAYAK IF YOU WANTED TO.
NEXT SLIDE. THESE ARE JUST SOME PICTURES, CONCEPTUAL PICTURES OF THE PLAYGROUND SPACE. NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE. ALL RIGHT. NEXT SLIDE. THAT'S AN OVERVIEW SCHEMATIC OF THE OF THE PARK.
SO IT'S QUITE IT IS QUITE LARGE. NEXT SLIDE. SO THE GEORGIA OUTDOOR STEWARDSHIP APPROVED BUDGET IS ORIGINALLY IT WAS $6 MILLION. BUT WITH INFLATION AND SOME TIME DELAYS DUE TO US HAVING TO CLEAN THE POND OUT, THERE'S A LOT OF SEDIMENT IN THE PONDS. WE HAD TO HAVE IT DREDGED AND SEVERAL OTHER FACTORS IN THERE. THEY DELAYED THE PROJECT QUITE A BIT. THE COST DID ESCALATE AT THAT TIME. SO NOW IT'S ABOUT TEN, $10,500,000 COST OF THE PROJECT.
WE DID ASK FOR A $3 MILLION GRANT, WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM UNDER GEORGIA OUTDOOR STEWARDSHIP. AND A REQUIREMENT FOR THAT IS IF YOU GO TO THE REQUIREMENT OF THAT IS NEXT SLIDE. IT'S HARD TO SEE I KNOW, BUT I'LL READ IT. THIS IS THE PRE-APPLICATION WE DID IN 2021.
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AND QUESTION NUMBER NINE IS THERE A MEASURABLE MONETARY VALUE ADDED TO THIS PROJECT THROUGH COOPERATION WITH AN EXTERNAL GOVERNMENT ENTITY. AND IT'S UP TO 25 POINTS FOR THE WHOLE THE WHOLE QUESTION SAID YES. EACH PARTNERSHIP CATEGORY MUST INCLUDE BE MEET A MINIMUM OF 1% OF THE TOTAL REQUESTED FUNDING TO QUALIFY FOR POINTS. APPLICANT APPLICANT MAY SCORE UP TO 25 POINTS. BELOW ONE OF THE CATEGORIES IS EXTERNAL GOVERNMENT ENTITY TEN POINTS.NON-GOVERNMENTAL GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY WITH A CORE MISSION OF CONSERVATION. TEN POINTS LAKE PROJECT WILL BE MADE POSSIBLE THROUGH STRONG PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. AND WE WE GOT A TOTAL CONTRIBUTION OF $130,000. THE EXTERNAL GOVERNMENT ENTITY THAT YOU ALL WAS WHAT YOU ALL PROVIDED. TROUP COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS $30,000 TO SUPPORT RED LAKE PROJECT. THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ADDITION OF OUTDOOR RECREATION AND UNDERSERVED AREAS OF TROUP COUNTY, AND THE INCLUSIVE ASPECTS OF THIS PARK TO SERVE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES WAS A PARTICULAR INTEREST. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE.
SO THIS IS WHERE WE REQUESTED AND GOT AN APPROVAL FROM THE COUNTY FOR THE $30,000. AND THIS IS WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE GRANT, WHICH ALLOWED US TO GET THOSE TEN EXTRA POINTS. I WILL SAY WE APPLIED THE FIRST TIME WE APPLIED, WE MISSED THE RECEIVING THE GRANT BY TWO POINTS. SO POINTS CAN MATTER IN THIS. SO THAT THAT MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE US GETTING THESE EXTRA TEN POINTS. BUT THIS IS WHERE THE LETTER OF COMMITMENT THAT WAS SENT TO THE GEORGIA OUTDOOR STEWARDSHIP GRANT PROGRAM. AND WE DO NEED THIS. IT IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE GRANT. SO FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE GRANT REQUIREMENTS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE. I THINK BACK IN THE DAY IT WAS APPROVED SINCE WE HAD THIS LETTER. SO THAT WAS OUR ASSUMPTION. SO WE JUST WANTED TO COME TODAY AND GIVE KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT AND REQUEST THAT THE $30,000 BE PROVIDED TO SUPPORT THIS GRANT. ANY QUESTIONS? BILL, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING. AND IN MY SEAT IN EXPLAINING WHAT THE $30,000 WAS COMING FROM, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT HAD BEEN EXPLAINED TO US BEFORE.
OKAY. ON THE PROJECT FOR THE GRANT. THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THE PARK, BILL? I MEAN, Y'ALL DOING A LOT OF WORK OUT THERE. SO WE HAD WE DID HAVE TO GET AN EXTENSION. SO THE THE PROJECT SHOULD BE HOPEFULLY COMPLETED BY JUNE OR JULY OF 2026 IS OUR ANTICIPATED CONCLUSION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS HAS BEEN FOUR YEARS AGO.
FOUR AND A HALF. WELL YOU KNOW YOU HAVE AN APPLICATION PROCESS, RIGHT? YEAH. REAPPLICATION WAS AN OCTOBER DEADLINE WAS OCTOBER OF 2021. AND YOU HAVE A SECOND LEVEL APPLICATION. AND THAT WAS MAY OF 2022. AND THE AGREEMENT DATE WAS SEPTEMBER OF 2022. SO YEAH, IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS IN THE MAKING. SO BACK THEN WHEN THE AGREEMENT WAS MADE, DID WE HAVE THE MONEY SET ASIDE OR WHERE WAS IT COMING FROM OR IT WAS IT WAS PLANNED TO COME FROM OUR ARPA FUNDS.
BUT AS THE CITY KNOWS, THE ARPA FUNDS HAD TO BE EXPENDED BY A CERTAIN TIME. AND SO WE HAVE EXPENDED THOSE MONIES AND ACTUALLY ARE GOING THROUGH ACTUALLY THE US TREASURY AUDIT ON THOSE FUNDS AS WE SPEAK. AND SO AGAIN, ONCE WE AGAIN GREW BEYOND THAT TIME FRAME, WE REALLY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD AND AND SEEK FUNDS FROM A DIFFERENT PLACE.
WE DIDN'T HAVE IT IN OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR. NO, SIR. REFRESH MY MEMORY. WASN'T THERE ALSO A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT COMING OUT OF THE SPLOST COUNTYWIDE SPLOST? ALSO, I DON'T KNOW THAT AT THE TIME IT WAS NO, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS EVER DISCUSSED. I THINK THE THE IDEA WAS TO UTILIZE THE ARPA FUNDS, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE MONEY FOR ARPA WAS ABOUT OUTDOOR RECREATION, AND THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE COULD MOVE BEYOND THOSE AREAS AND, AND NOT HAVE ISSUES WITH CONTAGIOUS DISORDERS, THAT SORT OF THING, I GUESS. AND SO, SO OUTDOOR RECREATION WAS WAS A BIG FOCUS IN ARPA. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER AREAS IN THE BUDGET THAT WE CAN PULL FROM? THE ONLY PLACE THAT WE COULD PULL THE FUNDS AT THIS TIME, IN MY OPINION, AND I CERTAINLY WILL SIGN YOU, BUT WOULD WOULD BE FROM OUR CAPITAL FUND. I MEAN, THIS WOULD CERTAINLY BE A CAPITAL EXPENDITURE AND I THINK WOULD WOULD MEET THE, THE POLICY OF, OF OUR CAPITAL FUNDING MEASURES SO THAT IN MY RECOMMENDATION, IF THE BOARD WERE TO TAKE ACTION TODAY OR,
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OR THIS EVENING WOULD BE TO PULL THOSE FUNDS FROM OUR CAPITAL FUND, AND WE DO HAVE ADEQUATE FUNDS THERE TO BE ABLE TO COVER THE COST. IF THE CHOICE IS TO MOVE FORWARD. MY QUESTION ON THE ON THE PARK ITSELF IS THIS THE FIRST TIME SEEING THE LAYOUT OF IT NOW IS SO THE PLAYGROUND SECTION. BUT AS YOU WERE SAYING ON THE LAKE, IS THAT LIKE ANYONE FOR KAYAKING OR SO IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? SURE. WILL THERE BE ANY FENCING? I GUESS THAT NOW THAT THERE'S NO TREES, IT'S. YOU'VE GOT A GREAT VIEW OF I-85 NOW. YEAH. THAT'S UNFORTUNATE. THEY CAME THROUGH AND TOOK DOWN ALL THE TREES ON I-85. ARE STILL SOME TREES BETWEEN THE DAM AND THE POND AND THE I-85. WE'RE PLANNING TO PLANT SOME EVERGREENS ACROSS THERE. SO YOU REALLY IT INSTRUCTS THAT. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ASK GDOT TO SEE IF WE CAN PUT SOME KIND OF A SCREENING UP ALONG THE ROADWAY THERE, MAYBE KEEP THE NOISE DOWN A LITTLE BIT. WHAT ABOUT THE I KNOW THERE'S ALSO ON THE OTHER SIDE IS WHERE REMINGTON IS BUILDING THEIR FACILITIES THERE A BUFFER THERE AS WELL. AND THE AGREEMENT WE MADE WITH REMINGTON, THEY PUT A BUFFER THERE. SO THERE'S LIKE I THINK 6 OR 700 EVERGREEN TREES THAT THEY'RE PLANTING ALONG THAT BUFFER THAT WILL SCREEN, THAT PROVIDE SCREENING THERE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE LEFT TO DO ON THEIR PROJECT. WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT YET. ARE THERE ANY FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THE USE OF THE PARK FEES? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT OKAY. THANK YOU SIR.[2. Discuss Ground Lease Amendment - Project Wing (Troy Anderson)]
APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP, WE'LL INVITE TROY ANDERSON TO DISCUSS THE GROUND LEASE AMENDMENT WITH PROJECT WING. MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING.LAST MEETING WE DISCUSSED A FAA RECOMMENDED CHANGE TO THE EXISTING GROUND LEASE. AS YOU MAY RECALL, IN JUNE, WE EXECUTED A GROUND LEASE USING ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK FROM GEORGIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, THE RESOURCE SPONSOR, WHICH IS BASED OUT OF THE UK, AGREED TO ALL THOSE TERMS, MOST RECENTLY, AS OUR PACKAGE HAS MOVED FORWARD, WE HAVE TO HAVE PERMISSION FROM THE FAA TO BUILD FOR ANY EQUITIES BUILDINGS THAT ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING AVIATION. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE FAA HAS DEEMED THIS PROJECT NOT TO BE AERONAUTICAL, BUT A MIX OF AERONAUTICAL AND NON-AERONAUTICAL PURPOSES TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR. THE FACILITY WILL TAKE IN COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT COMPONENTS, REFURBISHED THEM AND THEN OVERHAUL IF NECESSARY, AND THEN PUT THEM BACK ON THE MARKET FOR SALE TO MAINTAIN THE AGING FLEET ACROSS THE WORLD. WHAT IS ALSO RECOMMENDED WAS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AN APRON, WHEREBY IT CLEARLY SHOWS AN AERONAUTICAL USE. SO WITH THAT, THE RESOURCE SPONSOR AGREED TO BUILD A 100,000 SQUARE FOOT APRON TO PARK AIRCRAFT AS LARGE AS 737. THEY'RE. THE INTENT FOR THIS APRON WOULD BE TO BRING IN GENERAL AVIATION, COMMERCIAL AVIATION AIRCRAFT AND DO REPAIRS, SERVICING, AS WELL AS REMOVE COMPONENTS. AND THEN ONCE ALL THE COMPONENTS FOR, SAY, A AN AIRCRAFT THAT HAS MET ITS END OF SERVICE LIFE, TAKE THOSE COMPONENTS, REFURBISH THEM, PUT THEM BACK ON THE MARKET, AND THEN SHRED THE AIRCRAFT ON SITE AND THEN SEND THEM OFF FOR RECYCLING. SO WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE FAA FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD, WE'VE BEEN GIVEN PERMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD UNDER A MIXED USE. SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE HINGE POINT OF THE LAST MEETING. THAT'S WHY WE'VE TABLED THIS DISCUSSION FOR THE AMENDMENT TO THE GROUND LEASE. NOW, THE GROUND LEASE AMENDMENT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES THE BUSINESS MODEL OR THE BUSINESS PLAN FOR THIS OPERATION. WHILE THE ORIGINAL LEASE CAPTURED SOME OF THE COMPONENTS OF WHAT EACH BUILDING AND FACILITY WAS GOING TO DO, THE FAA RECOMMENDED MORE CLARITY. AND SO WITH THE RESOURCE SPONSOR, PROVIDED THAT AND THEY'RE HAPPY. SO NOW WE ARE NOW WAITING ON THE BUILDING PERMITS. ONCE THE BUILDING PERMITS, AND WE SHOW THAT THIS AMENDMENT HAS BEEN MADE FOR THE GROUND LEASE, WE'LL BE GIVEN THE GREEN LIGHT AND THEY CAN CONSTRUCT VERTICALLY. SO TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION WILL BE TO SEEK APPROVAL FOR THIS AMENDED GROUND LEASE AMENDMENT TO THE GROUND LEASE SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT A
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LITTLE BIT BEFORE WITH WITH THIS, WITH THEM WORKING IN THE WAY THERE AND BRINGING IN THESE LARGER AIRCRAFT. IS ANYTHING ON THE FAA TOWARD US AS FAR AS ANY PUBLIC SAFETY REQUIREMENT OR ANYTHING? DOES THAT CHANGE ANYTHING AS FAR AS REQUIREMENTS? WHEN YOU SIGN A LEASE WITH THE AIRPORT, YOU ALSO AGREE TO ALL FAA, ALL LOCAL, ALL AIRPORT RULES AND REGULATIONS. SO AS THE AIRPORT DIRECTOR, I MONITOR AND THEN IF I SEE ANYTHING THAT'S OUTSIDE OF FAA RULES AND REGULATIONS, IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY TO ADDRESS THAT. IF I CAN'T BASICALLY RESOLVE THAT, THEN I BRING GEORGIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND FAA AND FOR LEVERAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS. NOW TO I THINK YOUR POINT IS, THERE'S NOTHING OUTSIDE OF THE LEASE THAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT OTHER THAN ME ENFORCING THE RULES AND REGULATIONS. THE WEIGHT OF THE AIRCRAFT WILL BE VERY, VERY STRICT. OUR OUR RUNWAYS CAN ONLY MAINTAIN UP TO 100,000 POUNDS. AND SO IT WILL BE INCUMBENT UPON US TO ENSURE THAT THOSE AIRCRAFT ARE BELOW THOSE WEIGHT LIMITS TO ENSURE LONGEVITY OF OUR RUNWAYS AND TAXIWAYS. I'M NOT SURE. I'M HOPING THAT. YEAH, THAT'S OKAY. THE PROCESS IN ITSELF. THIS HAS BEEN A TWO PLUS YEAR PROCESS TO GET TO THIS POINT, AND SO THE RIGOR OF OUR PLANNING, THE RIGOR OF OUR ENGAGEMENT WITH FAA AND SPECIFICALLY TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN THAT YOU HAVE, SIR.SO IS THIS KIND OF GIVE A GREEN LIGHT FOR THE REST OF THE CONSTRUCTION AS SOON AS THE BUILDING PERMITS FOR THE FAA ARE RECEIVED. SO WHEN THE GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN THE THE HOSTING SITE FOR PERMITS, IT'S CALLED A 7460 FORM. AND ESSENTIALLY IT'S MAINTAINED BY THE OBSTRUCTION CLEARANCE DEPARTMENT OF THE FAA. SO WHAT THEY'LL DO IS THEY'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROPOSED WORK, AND SO THEY'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE ALTITUDES BY WHICH THE CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT WILL BE OPERATING AND OR THE BUILDING AT WHAT HEIGHT THE BUILDING WILL BE CONSTRUCTED TO, TO ENSURE IT DOES NOT POSE A RISK TO AVIATION AS AIRCRAFT COME IN AND MAYBE THEY'RE OFF OFF CENTER LINE, THERE'S PLENTY OF CLEARANCE. SO THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS 7460 PERMITS. AND SO WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT. ONCE THOSE ARE COMPLETE, THERE'S ABOUT 12 OF THEM ALL TOGETHER. ONCE THAT'S COMPLETE, THEN THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE COMPLIANCE OFFICE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH SIGNATURE, WITH THE LEADERSHIP FROM FAA TO SO WE CAN CONSTRUCT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR MOST RECENT VISITOR TO THE AIRPORT. YOU YOU CREATED QUITE A STIR AROUND TOWN. GOOD YEAR. WAS A GOOD VISITOR FOR US. YEAH. THE CAUSED A LOT OF. ACTIVITY, IF YOU WILL ON ON FACEBOOK. AND WE HAD SOME FOLKS COME OUT TO THE AIRPORT AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. IT'S A UNIQUE AND UNIQUE AIRCRAFT. YEAH, I'VE SEEN A LOT. THAT WAS THAT WAS A FIRST FOR ME. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR.
[3. Discuss Hangar Development with Ground Lease (Troy Anderson)]
ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM, TROY ANDERSON, I'M PROUD TO PRESENT. WE HAVE A NEW RESOURCE SPONSOR THAT WANTS TO BUILD A CORPORATE HANGAR AT THE AIRPORT. SO THIS WILL BE THE FACILITY IN TWO YEARS THAT WILL BE PROPOSED FOR CONSTRUCTION AT THE AIRPORT. THE RESOURCE SPONSOR IS THE DIRECTOR OF DIA AMERICAS CORPORATION. THE INTENT IS TO BUILD AN 80 BY 80 CORPORATE HANGAR, WHICH WOULD BE FAIRLY CLOSELY ADJACENT TO THE FBO. THE TERMS OF THE LEASE WILL BE FIVE YEAR TERMS TO BE RENEWABLE OUT TO THE 30 YEAR MARK. THE RENT WILL BASICALLY BE FOR THE EARTH. THEY WILL BURDEN. THEY WILL BE BURDENED WITH ALL THE EXPENSE FROM SURVEYING, DEGRADING TO INFRASTRUCTURE TO BUILD. THERE'S BEEN NO COST TO THE AIRPORT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OBVIOUSLY MY TIME AND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME FROM OUR ENGINEERING FIRM OUT OF ATLANTA TO ENSURE WE ARE WALKING THE TIGHT LINE OF THE STRAIGHT LINE TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS, IS, IS UP TO PAR. THEY ARE READY TO TO BUILD NOW. SO THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN THE 74, 60, 7460S FOR THEM WOULD BE AS YOU BRING IN THE RED IRON TO HANG. WHAT ALTITUDE DOES THE EQUIPMENT ECLIPSE ESSENTIALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN ERECT THOSE PERMITS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND ARE APPROVED. ASIDE FROM THAT, THE THE RENT WILL BE STARTING ONCE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS OBTAINED. 19 $918.75 PER MONTH. AND WE'LL ESCALATE AT 3% PER YEAR UNTIL THE 30 YEAR MARK, IN WHICH CASE AT 30 YEARS, THE BUILDING IN ITSELF REVERTS TO THE AIRPORT THAT THAT TENANT CAN THEN RENEW UNDER A NEW LEASE, IF YOU WILL, TO INCLUDE THE BUILDING. SO IT'S A 30 YEAR[00:20:05]
PROJECT FOR THEM PER SE. AND THEN ONCE THE 30 YEAR ANNIVERSARY ECLIPSES, THEN THAT BUILDING BECOMES THE AIRPORT'S. SO MY MY RECOMMENDATION MOVING FORWARD, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME SMALL CHANGES THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND I HAVE SEEN. WE'VE PUSHED THAT THOSE CHANGES BACK TO THE RESOURCE SPONSOR. SO THIS MORNING'S PRESENTATION WOULD BE SIMPLY TO SAY THAT THIS IS COMING FORWARD. IF WE GET WORD BACK BY PRIOR TO THE TODAY'S MEETING, I'LL PRESS FORWARD FOR AN APPROVAL IF THEY'RE IN AGREEMENT. ASIDE FROM IF I CAN'T GET THOSE CHANGES APPROVED BY THE RESOURCE SPONSOR, THEN WE'LL PUSH THIS APPROVAL REQUEST TO THE 16TH OF DECEMBER. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS YOU CAN MAKE ABOUT THIS PROSPECT HERE? SOMEONE FROM OUT OF STATE LOCATING TO. NO, SIR. IT'S IT'S THE MANAGING DIRECTOR OF DIA AMERICAS OUT OF THE LOCAL AREA. I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT'S IN THE LAGRANGE INDUSTRIAL PARK OR THEY'RE A VENDOR TO KIA. I THINK THE PLANE THAT HE OWNS NOW IS ACTUALLY BASED OUT OF PEACHTREE CITY. SO THE DISTANCE OF TRAVEL, THE COST INVOLVED. AND I'M ALSO UNDERSTANDING THAT PEACHTREE CITY IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT FROM A GENERAL AVIATION. IN OTHER WORDS, NOT COMMERCIAL, NOT CHARTER, MORE DIFFICULT TO OPERATE UP THERE. AND THE CONGESTION OF THE PATTERN MAKES IT SUCH THAT IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE UNCOMFORTABLE. THE PLANE THAT HE PLANS TO HOUSE IS A OPEN, OPEN COCKPIT BIPLANE. IT'S CALLED A WAKO WAKO. IT'S MUCH LIKE A STEARMAN, SO IT'S HIS OWN PERSONAL. AND WITH THAT HANGAR, THEY'LL ALSO BE SOME OFFICE SPACES AS WELL. TOOK A LOOK AT THE, THE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE OF THE HANGAR TO ENSURE THAT IN FUTURE YEARS, IN THE EVENT THAT THIS OWNER DECIDES TO MOVE AWAY, SELL HIS EQUITY OR TURN THE HANGAR HANGAR OVER, IT CAN ALSO SUPPORT ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL TYPE AIRCRAFT. FROM KING AIR'S TO CITATION CK 123. AND SO THERE'S A VARIETY OF OTHER COMMERCIAL TYPE AIRCRAFT THAT CAN FIT IN THIS, IN THIS HANGAR IN THE EVENT THAT HE HE VACATES. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL INVITE MISS WEST UP TO DISCUSS SOME TEXT[4. Discuss Text Amendments - UDO (Ruth West) ]
AMENDMENTS THAT ARE FORTHCOMING. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING. AND THIS MORNING WE'RE BRINGING THE ACTING YOU TO DISCUSS THE CHANGES TO THE UDO THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. WE FOUND THAT DURING THE WHEN CUSTOMERS COME IN, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE NEEDED TO TWEAK IN THE UDO THAT ACTUALLY SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN LEFT OUT OR NEEDED TO BE CORRECTED. AS FAR AS THE LETTERING AND NUMBERING SYSTEM, JUST A FEW TWEAKS ADDING THINGS BACK IN. SO ONE OF THEM IS THE AGRICULTURAL USES. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT COMMERCIAL LIVESTOCK RAISING. THEN THERE'S ALSO THE HUNTING CLUB WITH A LARGE AND ATHLETIC HEALTH CLUB. THOSE NEEDED TO BE ADDED BACK ON THE PERMITTED USE CHART AND THEN ON THE MANUFACTURED HOME UNIT ORDINANCE. WE NEEDED TO CHANGE SOME WORDING. MARK DID THE WORK ON THAT PART TO CHANGE THE WORDING, AND THEN WE NEEDED TO UPDATE IT. THE ACREAGE THAT WAS NOT REFLECTED IN THERE, THE SIGN REGULATIONS. WE HAD A FEW TWEAKS WHERE WE HAD A ZONING LETTERING THAT WASN'T EVEN OURS, SO WE NEEDED TO CHANGE THAT TO REFLECT WHAT WAS OURS. THEN ON THE QUASI JUDICIAL, WE HAD TO CHANGE THE PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS TO REFLECT THE STATE ZONING LAWS FOR QUASI JUDICIAL NOTICE. AND THEN WE ADDED A FEW THINGS IN THERE AS TO THE PLACEMENT OF SIGNS AND HOW MANY SIGNS THAT NEED TO BE PLACED. ANOTHER CHANGE IS THAT WE LOOKED AT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THROUGH THE FOUNDATION SURVEY THAT WE NEEDED TO ADD THAT BACK IN. AND LASTLY, WE HAD TO REWORD MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS AND ALSO HOME OCCUPATION. SO THOSE ARE THE CHANGES THAT WE NEEDED TO DO. RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT IS THE PROCESS AND SHARE WITH THEM THE PROCESS, THE NEXT STEPS. THE NEXT STEP IS THAT WE NEED TO GO BEFORE THE BOARD OF[00:25:02]
ZONING APPEALS AND PLANNING COMMISSION AGAIN TO GET APPROVAL. AND THEN ONCE WE GET THE APPROVAL, THEN WE'LL COME ON TO YOU. WE WILL TRY TO DO IT AT THE SECOND. AT YOUR SECOND MEETING. SO BOARD OF ZONING MEETS NEXT WEEK ON THURSDAY. AND THEN WE WILL TRY TO GET AND PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR YOU TO LOOK AT IT FOR APPROVAL. WE DO NEED TO GET THE QUASI JUDICIAL DONE BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR AND GET IT IN PLACE. OKAY. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER FURTHER[5. Discuss Text Amendment - Chapter 6 - Alcohol (Ruth West) ]
QUESTIONS, THEN WE'LL LET YOU PROCEED FORWARD. OKAY. THE NEXT ONE IS CHAPTER SIX ALCOHOL. THE REASON WHY WE LOOK AT CHANGES ON THIS ONE IS BECAUSE OF THE BRUNCH BILL. WE NEEDED TO GO IN AND CHANGE THE OPERATING HOURS FOR STORES. I THINK IT WAS FROM 1230 TO 11. SO THAT WILL BE REFLECTED IN THESE CHANGES. AND THERE ARE OTHER LITTLE TWEAKS THAT WE NEEDED TO TO TO MAKE SURE IT WAS CONSISTENT. SO IT IS ALL HIGHLIGHTED IN THERE IN THE SUMMARY TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE CHANGES THAT ARE RECOMMENDED. MARK HAS GONE THROUGH IT ALSO AND. WHAT IS THE FEE FOR THAT LICENSE? MISS RUTH THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT FEES. WELL, $300 FOR THE APPLICATION ACROSS THE BOARD. NOW FOR DISTILLED SPIRITS. IT'S A $2,000 FEE FOR THE BEER. FOR THE BEER, IT'S 541. IT'S 400 FOR THOSE ARE THE LICENSE FEES. OF COURSE. WE HAD THE FARM, WINERY AND ALL THE OTHERS OF THOSE. I ALSO MENTIONED AT THE VERY BEGINNING THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF LICENSE THAT WE ISSUE WITHIN THE COUNTY. WE HAVE ABOUT THREE BUSINESSES APPLY FOR THE LIQUOR LICENSE. WE DID. WE HAVE THE GOLF COURSE, WE HAD HIGHLAND MARINA AND. HOG HEAVEN.RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, RUTH? JUST I GUESS FROM THE POINT, FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT, THIS IS NOT A ZONING ORDINANCE. IT'S A POLICE POWER ORDINANCE. SO IT DOES NOT GO THROUGH THE BOARD PLANNING AND ZONING APPEALS. SO IT'S HERE FOR YOUR INFORMATION AND INPUT. AND THEN WE'LL GIVE IT A FINAL REVIEW. AND IT WOULD GO ON THE AGENDA FOR THE SAME TIME AS YOUR SECOND MEETING THIS MONTH, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. OKAY. SO WE'D LIKE TO ASK YOU TO GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD TO CONTINUE ON WITH IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MA'AM. OKAY. THE NEXT ONE ON
[6. Discuss Text Amendments - Data Center (Ruth West)]
HERE IS DISCUSSING THE DATA CENTER. AND WE ARE WORKING ON THE DATA CENTER ORDINANCE, MARK AND I, AND WE'RE HAVING INPUT FROM WE DID SEEK INPUT FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS. I HAVE ONE MORE I NEED TO CALL, BUT MARK ACTUALLY IS WORKING ON THE WORDING. AND THAT IS ALL. WHICH SEGUES RIGHT RIGHT INTO THE NEXT ITEM. THAT'S RIGHT. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OF MISS[7. Discuss Moratorium - Data Center (Mark DeGennaro)]
RUTH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF HER? IF NOT, WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR ATTORNEY.THIS JUST DOVETAILS RIGHT IN LINE AFTER RUTH'S PRESENTATION IN YOUR PACKET. THERE ARE TWO DOCUMENTS. ONE IS A VERY ROUGH FIRST CUT DRAFT OF A ORDINANCE THAT IS. NO, IT'S NOT BY ANY MEANS FINAL. IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. AGAIN, IT'S FOR THE PURPOSES OF TRANSPARENCY TO GET Y'ALL'S INPUT. AND. IN RECOGNITION OF THE FACT THAT THE 90 DAY MORATORIUM THAT THIS BOARD PASSED ON SEPTEMBER THE 16TH IS GOING TO BE EXPIRING SOON, FURTHER STUDY IS NEEDED IN ORDER TO GET THIS. ORDINANCE FINALIZED. ONE OF THE KEY CONSIDERATIONS IS, IS Y'ALL ARE PROBABLY AWARE. WELL, I KNOW YOU'RE AWARE THE CITY OF LAGRANGE PASSED A MORATORIUM A FEW DAYS AFTER THE COUNTY DID. THEY DID THEIRS FOR 180 DAYS. IT'S PART OF THIS STUDY, AND
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FURTHER CONSIDERATION IS GOT TO BE COORDINATED AND IN ALIGNED WITH WHATEVER THE CITY DOES.OBVIOUSLY, WE SHARE A LARGE BOUNDARY WITH THE CITY. THERE ARE ISSUES REGARDING WITH ANY BIG PROJECT LIKE THIS, PARTICULARLY A DATA CENTER WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHO'S PROVIDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHETHER THERE WILL BE ANY ANNEXATION AND ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED FULLY BEFORE A FINAL ORDINANCE IS DRAFTED. WITH THAT IN MIND, ALSO IN THIS PACKET IS A DRAFT OF AN EXTENSION OF THE MORATORIUM. THE DRAFT AS IT'S PRESENTED HERE TODAY, I THINK IT'S IN THIS PACKET AND ALSO FOR THE 5 P.M. PACKET IN THIS FORM RIGHT NOW IT'S GOT BLANKS IN IT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S THIS BOARD'S DECISION AFTER CONSIDERATION AT THIS MEETING, TONIGHT'S MEETING AS TO WHETHER TO EXTEND THE MORATORIUM. AND IF SO, FOR HOW LONG TO EXTEND THE MORATORIUM. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO EXTEND IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT. CAN BE MADE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE. ONE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO DO ANOTHER 90 DAYS. OF COURSE, WITH ANY MORATORIUM IT CAN BE EXTENDED OR IT CAN BE SHORTENED DEPENDING UPON HOW THINGS PROGRESS. BUT IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WOULD BE INCLINED TO CONSIDER, WE CAN CERTAINLY AMEND THIS DRAFT ORDINANCE IN HERE AND PUT A NUMBER OF DAYS IN THERE FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER FOR THIS AFTERNOON'S MEETING. ANY I THINK THE FROM JUST GOING BACK TO THE THE ORDINANCE PART OF IT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DOES NEED TO HAVE FURTHER CONSIDERATION AND AS RUTH SAID, SEVERAL DIFFERENT. MAYBE AS MUCH AS IN DOUBLE DIGITS AT THIS POINT, BUT CERTAINLY SEVERAL DIFFERENT ORDINANCE HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT, INCLUDING SAMPLE ORDINANCES THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED MODEL ORDINANCES AND ORDINANCES FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT RUTH AND I HAVE OBTAINED TO LOOK AT ONE OF THE POLICY DECISIONS. I THINK THAT THE BOARD COULD PROVIDE SOME DIRECTION ON IS THE COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS. ONE IS THE LOCATIONS THAT THE COUNTY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THESE THINGS MATERIALIZE, WHERE THEY WOULD BE, THE DISTRICTS, THE SIZE OF THE PARCELS AND DIRECTION. AS FAR AS CONSIDERATION OF ISSUES FOR REGULATIONS FOR DATA CENTERS VERSUS CRYPTO MINING, BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENT INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, AS I'M SURE THE BOARD IS AWARE, BETWEEN CRYPTO MINING AND WHERE THEY CAN LOCATE VERSUS DATA CENTERS AND THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS AND WHERE THEY CAN LOCATE ALL THAT STUFF THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO FURTHER REVIEW AND STUDY. IF THE BOARD WERE TO EXTEND THE MORATORIUM. AND OF COURSE, ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, I'M. I'LL ANSWER IF I CAN'T ANSWER THEM.
RUTH, THE MORATORIUM NEEDS TO BE EXTENDED TODAY BEFORE BECAUSE THE TIME WILL RUN OUT BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING. RIGHT. I THINK IT EITHER RUNS OUT AT AT THE NEXT MEETING OR ACTUALLY OR RIGHT BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING. YES, A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE. SO. YOU THINK ANOTHER 90 DAYS WILL GIVE US GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME? I DON'T KNOW, I JUST DON'T KNOW. I'M TOTALLY HONEST, AS ALWAYS WITH THE BOARD, I, I, I DON'T KNOW, A LOT OF IT DEPENDS ON HOW THE CITY IS PROGRESSING. AND WE, WE CERTAINLY I KNOW RUTH'S BEEN KEEPING IN CONTACT WITH THEM AND. BUT I THINK THAT I DO THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT THAT SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO JUST TRY AS BEST WE CAN TO REMAIN CONSISTENT IN TERMS OF TIMING WITH THE CITY. NOW, THEY MAY BE DONE EARLIER AND WE MAY BE DONE EARLIER. AND AND BOTH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY HAVE THE OPTION OF SHORTENING IT AND ALSO HAVE THE OPTION TO EXTEND. SO THE QUESTION THAT WAS POSED TO ME BY CITIZEN, LET'S SAY THAT ONE IS IS APPROVED AND LOCATED, SAY
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WITHIN SIDE ONE OF THE CITIES. AND THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY ABUTS THE COUNTY PROPERTY. DO WE HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE A BUFFER BETWEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE THE PROPERTY LINE BASICALLY IS WHAT I'M ASKING, ARE THEY ASKING ME? WELL, I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER TO THAT IS NOT DIRECTLY, AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE IMPORTANCE OF WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CITY. AND, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE CERTAINLY IF THEIR ORDINANCE WERE TO PROVIDE SOME.BUFFER REQUIREMENT, WHICH I'M SURE THAT IT PROBABLY WOULD, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN IT, THEN THAT WOULD BE WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY TO REQUIRE THAT ORDINANCE. ONCE THE PROPERTY IS ANNEXED, OBVIOUSLY IT BECOMES PART OF THE CITY'S POLITICAL JURISDICTION AND NOT THE COUNTY'S. WHAT WE WE'RE TALKING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY OF LAGRANGE. HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING RUMOR FROM HOGANSVILLE OR WEST POINT ABOUT ARE THEY LOOKING AT THE SAME ISSUE OR. WELL, COMMISSIONER JONES, YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE PREDICTING SOMETHING THAT I HAD WRITTEN DOWN AND I DIDN'T MENTION, BUT I THINK THAT IS A CONSIDERATION. WE CERTAINLY THE CITY OF LAGRANGE PROBABLY HAS THE LARGEST BOUNDARY WITH THE COUNTY, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO ALSO COORDINATE WITH THE CITY OF HOGANSVILLE AND THE CITY OF WEST POINT TO SEE WHERE THEY ARE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, IF ANYTHING. RUTH, DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT? I DO NOT. I SPOKE TO DANA AND SHE WHEN I SPOKE TO HER, SHE SAID THEY ARE NOT LOOKING AT ANY ORDINANCES RIGHT NOW. I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM DENNIS, BUT I WILL BE SEEING HIM IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS. SO I WILL POSE THAT QUESTION AGAIN TO HIM TO SEE WHERE THEY ARE. I THINK IT'D BE IMPORTANT. YEAH, AND THIS IS WHY I HAD TO FILL THIS OUT TO SEE WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE DOING. SO I THINK, I MEAN, JUST TO RECAP, I THINK ONLY THE CITY OF LAGRANGE AND COUNTY HAVE ENACTED MORATORIUMS AT THIS TIME. YES. NOW, DOESN'T HOGANSVILLE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING? I WANT TO SAY, IS IT TONIGHT? TONIGHT 7:00? 7:00? THERE'S ONE TONIGHT IN HOGANSVILLE. SO I CAN CHECK WITH DANA AGAIN BEFORE THIS EVENING, SEE IF I CAN GET AN ANSWER FROM. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. SO WILL WE. SO REALLY NO ACTIONS? WELL, WE WOULD TONIGHT NEED TO VOTE TO EXTEND THE MORATORIUM TONIGHT. YES.
AND IF IF. IF THE BOARD IS THINKING ABOUT POSSIBLY IN THE 90 DAYS, I CAN GO AHEAD AND GET A RESOLUTION FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER WITH THAT PLUGGED IN OR I CAN WE CAN LEAVE IT, LEAVE IT BLANK. BUT IT WOULD BE FAIRLY SIMPLE TO CHANGE DEPENDING ON HOW THE BOARD VOTES THIS EVENING. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP WE'LL INVITE
[8. Discuss City of LaGrange Redevelopment Plan TAD (Matt Boone)]
MATT BOONE TO PRESENT THE CITY OF LAGRANGE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR. I GUESS IT'S TAD NUMBER EIGHT, I BELIEVE. GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS. MORNING, JAMES. DO YOU NEED A LITTLE INSIGHT ON WHICH WHICH WHICH ONE? PULL UP THREE FILES I'VE PUT UP ON THE SCREEN. THE ONE LABELED LAGRANGE, LAFAYETTE, TAD, NOVEMBER PRESENTATION. THERE SHOULD BE ONE. THAT'S A COLORED SITE PLAN. I WOULD JUST GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE ONE THAT SAYS PHASING PLAN AND ONE THAT SAYS MIXED USE, PROBABLY MIXED USE. OKAY. THIS IS MIXED USE. ALL RIGHT. WELL GOOD MORNING.THANK YOU GUYS FOR FOR HAVING US HERE. OBVIOUSLY WE ARE HOPING TO CREATE A REALLY GREAT AND WHAT WE FEEL WOULD BE BENEFICIAL PROJECT FOR LAGRANGE TROUP COUNTY. WE PARTNER AND I BRANT SCARBOROUGH HAVE BEEN ASSEMBLING THIS PROPERTY FOR PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME NOW. AND WITH THAT, WE DO THINK THERE ARE SOME SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT RETAIL PLAYERS THAT ARE VERY INTERESTED IN LAGRANGE. WHEN I SAY THAT WE ARE IN NEGOTIATION WITH A LARGE NUMBER OF THESE, AND SOME OF WHICH I'VE KIND OF ALLUDED TO WHO THOSE ARE IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, AND WE CONTINUE TO BE IN THAT POSITION. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS, IS REALLY PUT TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, A PLAN THAT DOES LEAD WITH RETAIL, BECAUSE THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT GAPS IN THIS MARKET. WHEN YOU LOOK AT ITS PROXIMITY TO OTHER MARKETS AND ACCESS TO RETAIL GOODS, YOU HAVE TO EITHER GO TO NEWNAN OR YOU HAVE TO GO TO TO AUBURN-OPELIKA OR EVEN COLUMBUS. AND THERE'S REALLY A GREAT DEMOGRAPHIC OF
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PEOPLE HERE, AND RETAILERS ARE PROBABLY STARTING TO RECOGNIZE THAT. AND SO WE THINK THERE'S REALLY GOOD SYNERGY AND CRITICAL CRITICAL MASS TO BE HAD HERE. SO, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING, THE ONLY WAY WE CAN REALLY PULL THIS OFF FIRST STEP IS THE REASON WE'RE STANDING HERE TODAY. WE DO HAVE A NEED TO CREATE A TAD DISTRICT OVER THIS PROPERTY OR THESE PROPERTIES. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT VERY SPECIFICALLY, THIS IS NOT A TAX ABATEMENT. THIS IS A WHICH IS USED UTILIZES TAX INCREMENTS. SO WE WILL BE ASKING FOR THE INCREMENTS IN WHICH WE ARE CREATING WITH THE INVESTMENT THAT WE MAKE ON THIS PROPERTY.YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO HERE, THERE'S SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE ON THIS IN THIS DEVELOPMENT. ALL THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AREN'T JUST EXACTLY ON THIS. IT ACTUALLY ALSO ENCOMPASSES OFFSITE. SO WE'LL BE HAVING TO MAKE MULTIPLE IMPROVEMENTS TO LAFAYETTE PARKWAY AS WELL AS DAVIS. AS YOU'LL SEE UP THERE, WE ARE PROPOSING A COUPLE NEW LIGHTED INTERSECTIONS. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DO THINK THERE'S SOME SIGNIFICANT ISSUES ALONG LAFAYETTE THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. WE ARE WORKING WITH GDOT AND HAVE PROPOSED PLANS TO THEM THAT WOULD HOPEFULLY ALLEVIATE THIS. SOME OF THOSE PLANS, EVEN ACTUALLY NOW WOULD ENCOMPASS PORTIONS OF PATILLO ROAD, NOT JUST HOFFMAN. AND THOSE LIGHTS WOULD BE SIGNALIZED AND TIMED, HOPEFULLY TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE ILLEGAL MOVEMENTS. FRANKLY, THAT THAT HAPPENED IN THAT AREA PRETTY REGULARLY. ALSO, WE'LL BE SEEKING A LIGHTED INTERSECTION ON THE DAVIS ROAD SIDE OF THINGS WHERE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE GROCER ON THAT END OF THE SITE, WHICH I THINK IS ALSO ANOTHER DESPERATELY NEEDED GOOD FOR FOR THIS SIDE OF TOWN, I THINK WOULD BE WELL RECEIVED. AND, YOU KNOW, SO WE ARE GOING THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT ANALYSIS WITH GDOT. THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO BECAUSE OF THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT. WE ARE GOING THROUGH THAT CURRENTLY AS WELL. SO WE ARE HERE TO ASK FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THE ADOPTION OF THE TAD, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I, I DO STRESS IS WE HAVE WE WILL CONTINUE AND HAVE BEEN AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE. WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE TAD IN ORDER TO TO HAVE A SHOT AT PULLING THIS OFF, IN ORDER TO HAVE A BUDGET THAT MAKES SENSE, THAT BALANCES FOR US TO TO MOVE THIS THING FORWARD. SO IN THE END, WE'RE WE'RE HOPEFUL TO BRING SOMETHING THAT'S BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS. OBVIOUSLY, WE WANT TO TO MAKE A GREAT INVESTMENT IN THIS COMMUNITY. I THINK BOTH AND I HAVE LONG STANDING, YOU KNOW, RELATIONSHIPS AND TIME SPENT HERE. SO WE DO FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST HERE AS WELL. AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT. AND SO I'M HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE RELATED TO IT. I ALSO HAVE JEFF KOSKI HERE WITH KB ASSOCIATES, WHO IS REPRESENTING ME IN OUR TAD APPLICATION AS WELL TO TO HOPEFULLY ANSWER ANYTHING WE NEED TO. SO THE RED OUTLINE IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. THE TAD ON THE TAD IS A IT'S A DISTRICT, SO IT ACTUALLY IS A LITTLE BIT LARGER THAN THAT. CAN YOU BRING UP THAT'S NOT THE THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. THEN THE THE PHASING PLAN, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND BRINGING UP THE PHASING PLAN, I THINK THAT SHOWS THE THESE ARE THE TAD BOUNDARIES OF WHICH WE ARE ASKING FOR. AND SO A LOT OF TIMES A TAD DISTRICT COVERS AN AREA THAT NEEDS WHAT YOU CONSIDER REDEVELOPMENT. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ONE SPECIFIC PROPERTY OR DEVELOPMENT. IT IS MEANT TO BE A SPRING OF DEVELOPMENT AND IMPROVEMENT OVER IN THAT AREA.
SO WE HAVE INCLUDED AS AN EXAMPLE THE PIPELINE PROPERTY THERE. WE DO THINK THAT LONG TERM THIS COULD BE THAT COULD BE A PORTION OF OUR PROPERTY, OR SOMEBODY WILL DEVELOP IT IN A MANNER THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE ARE WORKING TO DO. RIGHT. SO WE DO FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD BE A PART OF IT. I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY THAT ARE ALONG HOFFMAN RIGHT THERE. PART OF THE REASON WE DID THAT WAS THROUGH OUR CONVERSATION IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS. IT WAS POINTED OUT THAT WE ARE DOING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF IMPROVEMENTS AT LAFAYETTE, SO WE FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT TO MAYBE INCLUDE THOSE PROPERTIES BECAUSE WE ARE DOING IMPROVEMENTS ALL THE WAY UP HOFFMAN TO LAFAYETTE PARKWAY AND ON LAFAYETTE ITSELF. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF WHY THAT WAS WAS BROUGHT IN. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT I DON'T AND JEFF CAN PROBABLY GET INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT CLEARER, BUT BEING A PART OF A TAD, REALLY, FROM A PROPERTY OWNERS PERSPECTIVE IS A REALLY GOOD THING. IT GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY IF YOUR PROPERTY BECOMES DILAPIDATED OR NEEDS IMPROVEMENTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. IT DOES GIVE THE LANDOWNER AN ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY TO TO MAYBE JUSTIFY REDEVELOPMENT OR SOMETHING THAT'S BETTER. SO I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY REASON TO FEEL THAT THIS IS A BAD THING
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FOR ANY PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT IT DOES MAKE SENSE, I BELIEVE, TO INCLUDE THEM. SO IT IS A TAD JUST ON THE RIGHT OF WAY OF THE ROAD. OR IS IT INCLUDING STRUCTURES THAT'S ALREADY THERE? IT INCLUDES THE STRUCTURES ALONG THAT KIND OF PINK SECTION AREA RIGHT THERE UP ALONG HOFFMAN. IT DOES ALREADY EXISTING BUSINESSES? YES, SIR. CORRECT. HOW CLOSE ARE YOU WORKING WITH DOT ON THE TRAFFIC? I MEAN, I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING THAT'S ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES. YES, SIR. YES SIR. VERY MUCH. AND DOT IS VERY FOCUSED ON THIS AREA, THIS CORRIDOR LAFAYETTE BECAUSE I MEAN YOU GUYS KNOW IT BETTER THAN I DO.YOU GET OUT THERE AND IT'S IT'S IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CRAPSHOOT AT TIMES. AND SO AND THIS ISN'T OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T SHOW MY SPECIFIC DRAWINGS. WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GIVE THOSE TO YOU GUYS TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO, TO GDOT. WE'RE RELUCTANT TO DO IT IN PUBLIC SETTINGS BECAUSE WE ARE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH THEM. LIKE I SAID, A DRY DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT IS VERY ENCOMPASSING. I MEAN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO TAKE IN TRAFFIC COUNTS. YOU HAVE TO TAKE IN ENGINEERING, YOU HAVE TO TAKE IN RIGHT OF WAY. I MEAN, THERE'S THERE'S A LOT. AND THEN YOU COME TO A SOLUTION THAT REALLY WORKS, NOT JUST FOR US AS A DEVELOPER, BUT IT HAS TO WORK FOR FOR GDOT, TOO, AS, AS AN ENGINEER, EFFECTIVELY THAT THAT GOVERNS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I DID PERSONALLY TELL MY PROJECT MANAGERS AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS, I WOULD SAY THERE'S PROBABLY SOME EASIER SOLUTIONS TO WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO TO DO WITH ACCESS WITHOUT HAVING TO DO THE LIGHT AT AND MAKE ALL THESE DIFFERENT CHANGES. BUT I SAID MY OPINION OF IT WAS, YOU'RE BETTER TO GO AHEAD AND CORRECT IT. YOU'RE BETTER TO GO AHEAD AND DO IT IN A MORE OF AN ALL ENCOMPASSING MANNER WITH TIMED LIGHTS. THAT GETS THE ACCESS AS NEEDED, BUT IT ALSO HELPS FACILITATE TRAFFIC BETTER. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED TO GDOT. IT WAS A LITTLE BIT, ACTUALLY, OF A MORE OF AN, OF AN EXPANDED SCOPE THAN WE PROBABLY COULD HAVE DONE. BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, IN MY OPINION, WANT TO, YOU KNOW, PROTECT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.
SO DO WE. AND WE ALSO WANT TO PROTECT THE INVESTMENT WE'RE MAKING IN THIS IN THIS COUNTY.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE CORRECTLY AS WELL. SO WE'D RATHER GO AHEAD AND PUT FORTH THE RIGHT EFFORT THERE. AND THERE'S BEEN TALK OF INSIDE. JUST HAD RESIDENTIAL ALSO. WHAT WOULD THAT WOULD THAT BE APARTMENTS. OR I WOULD TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE. SO ONCE AGAIN IN FULL TRANSPARENCY THIS IS 130 ACRE SITE AND WHOLE. WHEN YOU HAVE A SITE THIS LARGE, I CAN SAY THAT OBVIOUSLY OUR INTENT HERE IS TO LEAD 100% WITH OUR COMMERCIAL AND OUR RETAIL. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'VE DONE MY ENTIRE CAREER, AND THAT'S WHAT I DO AS A PART OF THAT. WHEN YOU HAVE LARGER SITES, SOMETIMES THERE ARE SOME OTHER USES THAT ARE HIGHER, HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THAT SPECIFIC PARCEL OR THAT SPECIFIC AREA OF DEVELOPMENT. SO PART OF OUR APPLICATION IS WE DID GO AHEAD AND SAY, HEY, THERE IS A POTENTIAL I THINK WE HAVE 250 MULTIFAMILY UNITS THAT ARE CURRENTLY SHOWN AS A PART OF THAT PLAN. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF HOTELS AND HOSPITALITY, WHICH I THINK IS A REALLY GREAT USE FOR PORTIONS OF THE PLAN AS WELL, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST IN THAT AS WELL. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OF RETAIL. THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR THINGS SUCH AS LIKE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDINGS. RIGHT. SO I THINK WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MEDICAL OFFICE THAT'S PROPOSED IN THIS AS WELL. SO IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE ONE SPECIFIC THING. AND IT WILL BE A A MASSAGING THE PLAN. BUT I CAN TELL YOU IS AS YOU LOOK AT IT, THE, THE SECTION IN YELLOW AND EVEN THE SECTION IN RED IS REALLY WELL SET. FROM A SITE PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, I DON'T PERCEIVE THAT CHANGING MUCH. IF IT'S CHANGING, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, BOX SIZES AND TENANTS MOVING AROUND, THINGS LIKE THAT. THE AREA IN GREEN WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE RETAIL OUT PARCELS. SO THOSE THOSE PADS IN FRONT ARE LIKE YOUR SERVICE TENANTS, YOUR RESTAURANTS, YOUR FULL SERVICE, QUICK SERVICE, ALL THOSE TYPES OF GUYS. THE AREA BEHIND THAT IS PROBABLY THE THE PIECE IN QUESTION. I SAID THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A REALLY GOOD USE OF LAND FOR SOME MULTIFAMILY UNITS THERE. IT COULD ALSO BE A REALLY GOOD PIECE OF LAND FOR MORE COMMERCIAL IN THE FUTURE. IT COULD BE HOSPITALITY. THAT'S THE ONE PIECE OF THE SITE THAT I'D SAY IS NOT AS SET IN STONE AS TO WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE, BUT I DID WANT TO GO AHEAD AND PROPOSE THAT, HEY, AS A PART OF OUR CALCULATIONS, LET'S GO AHEAD AND SAY, LOOK, WE DO BELIEVE THERE'LL BE A PIECE OF IT. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, AND HOPEFULLY I POINT THIS OUT CORRECTLY. ALL OF THE PROPERTIES HERE ARE ZONED COMMERCIAL MIXED USE, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. SO NOT A SINGLE PROPERTY IN THIS ENTIRE AREA IS RESTRICTED AGAINST ANY FORM OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING. SO IN A WAY THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY COULD COULD EVENTUALLY BECOME A SHOTGUN EFFECT OF OF MULTIFAMILY FROM DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS, DIFFERENT THINGS. I THINK IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THIS IN A COHESIVE MANNER AND SAY, LOOK,
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WE'RE WE'RE ACTUALLY REDUCING SIGNIFICANTLY THE NUMBER OF POTENTIAL UNITS THAT COULD BE HERE AND PROPOSING SOMETHING THAT WE THINK IS IN LINE WITH WHAT THE MARKET LONG TERM SHOULD, SHOULD WANT AND NEED RIGHT THERE. AT THE SAME TIME, DEVELOPING THIS CORRECTLY WITH WHAT IT REALLY SHOULD BE, WHICH IS A LOT OF COMMERCIAL AND MIXED USE COMPONENTS. SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, JUST TRYING TO BE REALLY TRANSPARENT ABOUT IT. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WE EVEN PUT THAT IN THE TAB. I CAN TELL YOU I DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT OR I'M NOT NEGOTIATING ANYTHING. ANY CURRENT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPERS, THAT'S NOT MY GUIDING FORCE. I'M WORKING WITH RETAILERS AND HOSPITALITY. I MEAN, THAT IS MY THAT'S MY BIG GUIDE RIGHT NOW.BUT YES, I DO WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT. WE WE HAD TALKED ME AND YOU HAD TALKED BEFORE AND ARE YOU STILL LOOKING AT 25 YEARS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR? YES, SIR. PART OF THE I MEAN I SAY PART THE THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE THAT WE FACE IS, IS THE BUDGET. YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF CAN WE, YOU KNOW, CALL IT BIG BOX OR POWER CENTER DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS ANYMORE.
THE REASON BEING IS TENANTS HAVEN'T RISEN IN PAYING RENT AS MUCH AS COSTS HAVE RISEN. I MEAN, IT'S IT'S IT'S PRETTY BASIC ECONOMICS. AND SO THE ONLY WAY YOU EVER SEE THIS STUFF DONE, ESPECIALLY WITH SOME OF THE TENANTS THAT WE'RE TALKING WITH, WHICH ARE UNIQUE, ARE WITH UTILIZATION, UTILIZATION OF THINGS SUCH AS TAD, RIGHT. OR SOME FORM OF FINANCING LIKE THAT TO ASSIST. OTHERWISE YOU JUST CAN'T BUDGET IT. YOU CAN'T GET TO A YIELD THAT MAKES SENSE AND LENDERS ARE JUST NOT GOING TO LEND ON IT. SO WE ARE ASKING FOR THE 25 YEARS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE DO NEED AS MUCH TAD PROCEEDS AS POSSIBLE IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS BUDGET. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT ALSO THAT THIS IS THE ADOPTION OF THE TAD OR THE DISTRICT EFFECTIVELY ONCE. ONCE THAT'S ADOPTED, I WILL HAVE TO REENGAGE WITH WITH EVERYONE WITH A SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITHIN THAT TAD AND WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENT PLAN, I'LL HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE USES. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. THIS IS WHAT WE SEE AS AS THE INCREMENT BY YOU. AND THAT'S BEEN STUDIED. AND THEN WE WILL MAKE THAT ASK.
AND SO IT STILL HAS TO BE AGREED TO AS AN AFTER EFFECT. RIGHT. SO THE NUMBERS THAT ARE GIVEN NOW ARE JUST PROJECTIONS, THEIR PROJECTIONS IN ORDER TO GIVE EVERYONE AN IDEA OF HOPEFULLY WHAT HAPPENS IN THE LONG TERM FUTURE TO ESTABLISH THE DISTRICT. WE'VE ALSO BEEN IN DISCUSSION AND AGREED TO PUT A LIMITATION ON THE TIMELINE OF THAT. TAD. YOU KNOW, THAT WAY THIS PROPERTY DOESN'T NECESSARILY JUST HAVE A TAD OR A DISTRICT HANGING OVER IT. AND, YOU KNOW, FOR FOR 30 YEARS, IT'S I HAVE TO I HAVE TO MEET GOALS, RIGHT? LIKE I HAVE TO START CONSTRUCTION. I HAVE TO COMMENCE AND DO CERTAIN THINGS BY CERTAIN DATES. I THINK WE'VE SAID WITHIN FIVE YEARS. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE AS TARGETED APPROACH TO THIS AS WE POSSIBLY CAN AND TO DELIVER EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SHOW. QUESTION. THIS JUST HELPED ME CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT TAD'S IN ITSELF.
OKAY. WHEN THE FUNDS COME IN, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, YOU BUY THE PROPERTY AS THE FUNDS COME IN.
I KNOW FOR SITE PREP, ROADS, INFRASTRUCTURE, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO AS THE ROADS CUT, THOSE ARE DONE. HOW DOES IT PLAY IN TO THE RETAILERS THEMSELVES, LIKE THE BUILDING ITSELF DO? IS THE TAD MORE FOR THE JUST SITE PREP OF IT? AND THEN THE INDIVIDUAL RETAILER BUILDS THEIR OWN? OR DOES THE TAD DO PARKING LOTS? DOES IT? WHAT ALL DOES THAT CONSIST OF? RIGHT. THE TENT TYPICALLY AND TRADITIONALLY IS MEANT TO GO INTO INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. SO INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS REALLY CAN BE CONSIDERED. YOU KNOW, EARTHWORK UTILITY WORK, WHETHER THAT BE WATER, SEWER, WHATEVER SIGNALS OR ROAD WORK OFFSITE. IT CAN ALSO GO INTO, YOU KNOW, YES, PARKING LOT FACILITIES, JUST THINGS THAT BASICALLY THE GENERAL PUBLIC USE. EACH INDIVIDUAL RETAILER IS ACTUALLY DIFFERENT. I MEAN, THAT'S A THAT'S A REALLY INTERESTING QUESTION THAT WE, YOU KNOW, TO GET INTO A CONVERSATION INSIDE.
BUT SOME OF THESE ARE GROUND LEASES. SOME OF THESE ARE BUILD TO SUITS. SOME OF THESE ARE SALES. THEY'RE ALL UNIQUELY DIFFERENT TO THEMSELVES. WHEN YOU GET INTO AN ENVIRONMENT LIKE THIS. THE WAY THE TAXES WORK WITH THOSE RETAILERS THOUGH, IS WE ARE TRADITIONALLY, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY THING I DEVELOP OR NEGOTIATOR, WHAT I CALL A NET LEASE, SO THAT TENANT IS OBLIGATED TO PAY THE TAXES ON THAT PROPERTY. RIGHT. SO, SO NOTHING CHANGES ABOUT THE TAXES NECESSARILY THAT ARE PAID. SO THE TAX APPRAISER WILL MAKE THEIR APPRAISAL AND TAX BILL GOES OUT. THAT TENANT HAS TO PER THE TERMS OF THEIR LEASE WHICH THEY'RE USED TO. IT'S CUSTOMARY PAY THOSE TAXES TO THE MUNICIPALITY. WHAT WE ARE SEEKING AND ASKING FOR IS THAT INCREMENT. SO THE TAXES THAT ARE ALREADY BEING PAID ON THIS PROPERTY DON'T CHANGE, RIGHT? LIKE THAT. THAT REMAINS THE SAME. NOTHING CHANGES THERE WHEN WE MAKE THIS INVESTMENT.
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RIGHT. AND WE TAKE THIS RISK OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT AND YOU CREATE THAT NEW INCREMENT. THAT'S THE PIECE THAT DOES GET, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY EFFECTIVELY REFUNDED BACK TO US. AND THAT CAN BE DONE IN MULTIPLE DIFFERENT FORMS FOR, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS LATER. BUT I MEAN, LIKE THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SEEK. AND THOSE THOSE ARE THE FUNDS THAT WE USE IN OUR FINANCING OF THE PROJECT TOWARDS INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS.SO WE'RE ABLE TO KNOCK DOWN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE COST SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO MAKE THE REST OF THE INVESTMENT, BECAUSE WE WILL BE AN EXAMPLE LIKE THIS, PROBABLY AT LEAST 80% OF THIS, WE WILL CONSTRUCT AND OWN. SO THAT LOAN GETS QUITE SIZABLE. YEAH. I THINK AN INTERESTING POINT IS SEVERAL SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WE HAD SOME OF THE LANDOWNERS OUT THERE CAME TO US AND WANTED US TO BUILD THE ROAD, AND WITH HOPES THAT THEY COULD ATTRACT SOME DEVELOPMENT TO IT, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THAT BOTH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WE WOULDN'T INVEST OUR MONEY UNLESS YOU CAME BACK WITH A PLAN. YOU KNOW, WHO ARE THESE DEVELOPERS? WELL, THERE WASN'T A REALLY ANY LIST OF POTENTIAL TENANTS AT THAT TIME. SO I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A WAY TO PUT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN FOR THAT PROPERTY, WHICH DOESN'T COST THE COUNTY ANY ADDITIONAL DOLLARS OR THE CITY. BUT THEN HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE A PLAN WITH CERTAIN DEVELOPERS AND HAD PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS THAT THEY WOULD BE ATTRACTED TO THIS AREA. RIGHT. UNLESS THE ROAD'S THERE ONCE THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE DONE. RIGHT. I MEAN, IT'S IT'S BASICALLY TO YOUR POINT, IT'S, IT'S IT'S OUR GAMBLE. BUT A PART OF THAT GAMBLE, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO TO UTILIZE WHAT I CONSIDER ARE VERY USEFUL TOOL IN ORDER TO MAKE IT FEASIBLE FOR US TO, TO, TO TAKE THAT GAMBLE. BUT MATT, LET ME ASK YOU THIS. I KNOW ONE OF THE USUALLY THE COMMENTS WE GET FROM A LOT OF OUR CITIZENS, THEY DON'T THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHY, YOU KNOW, WHY WOULD ALL THIS BE COMING, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU FROM A FROM A DEVELOPER STANDPOINT, JUST GIVE YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON WHY LAGRANGE TROUP COUNTY NOW, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS HERE? YEAH. AND AND THERE'S NO RIGHT.
THERE'S NO ONE SPECIFIC REASON. I MEAN, IT REALLY ISN'T. I CAN TELL YOU, CHAIRMAN, THAT I, I HAVE STUDIED THIS MARKET SPECIFICALLY. I MEAN, I WENT TO COLLEGE HERE, SO I KNOW IT WELL, BUT I'VE STUDIED IT FROM THIS PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT I DO EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR 15 YEARS GOING.
THERE'S REALLY NO REASON THAT A NUMBER OF THESE RETAILERS AREN'T THERE. THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT LAGRANGE HAS HAD, WELL, I'M GOING TO SAY ONE OF THEM IS THAT IT'S SEGMENTED, RIGHT.
LIKE THERE'S NO ONE LANDING SPOT AND THERE'S REALLY ONLY ONE LANDING SPOT ANY OF THESE TENANTS WANT TO BE, AND THAT'S LAFAYETTE PARKWAY. SO THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU CAN REALLY PULL SOMETHING LIKE THIS OFF IS TO CREATE A, YOU KNOW, WE CALL IT CO-TENANCY. RIGHT? SO IF YOU GET 3 OR 4 OF THE OF THE GREATER TENANTS THAT PEOPLE LIKE TO BE AROUND, NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU START TO GET MORE OF A HERD. THEY LIKE THAT CO-TENANCY, THEY LIKE THAT CRITICAL MASS. IT'S HARD TO FIND THAT. RIGHT. SO HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE YOU DO HAVE YOU HAVE THE LAND MASS, AND IT'S IN THE GENERAL LOCATION THAT THESE TENANTS WANT TO BE.
BUT TO THE POINT EARLIER THERE WASN'T ENOUGH INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT NOW THE INFRASTRUCTURE HAS GOT TO GO IN IN ORDER FOR THAT TO OCCUR. SO SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SHOWING AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING TO ALL THE TENANTS ABOUT, WHICH IS YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, 100,000 PEOPLE SITTING DOWN HERE. AND REALLY IT'S BIGGER THAN THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A MUCH BIGGER RING THAT PULLS INTO MERRIWEATHER AND HARRIS AND THESE PLACES. BUT YOU HAVE A VERY GOOD POPULATION THAT'S EDUCATED, THAT MAKES GOOD MONEY, AND THEY HAVE TO DRIVE 30 MINUTES IN EITHER DIRECTION JUST TO GO BUY SOME SOFT GOODS. RIGHT? I MEAN, THEY HAVE TJ MAXX AND THAT'S ABOUT IT. I MEAN, IT REALLY IS THIN. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT CREATES A DYNAMIC WHERE I HAVE A BETTER STORY FOR THESE RETAILERS THAN THEY'RE USED TO SEEING, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF MARKETS LIKE THAT ANYMORE. I MEAN, RETAIL IS FOR THE MOST PART, ESPECIALLY IN GEORGIA, IS PRETTY MATURED. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF MARKETS THAT DON'T HAVE THESE TYPES OF OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT OCCURRED THROUGH THE 90S AND 2000. RIGHT? SO LAGRANGE IS JUST UNIQUE IN THAT SENSE. AND PART OF THE REASON IT'S UNIQUE IS THAT FRAGMENTATION, THERE'S NEVER BEEN A PLACE FOR EVERYBODY TO LAND OR LAND CORRECTLY. THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN DO THAT IS TO CREATE IT. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. WHAT'S YOUR WHAT DO YOU THINK IS A REASONABLE IDEA OF A BUILD OUT TIME? BECAUSE I GO BACK TO WHEN I WAS BUILDING THE HOUSE 20 PLUS YEARS AGO, AND NEWNAN WAS KIND OF HAD THEIR HOME DEPOT AND LOWE'S GOING IN UP THERE. AND SO I KIND OF FORGET HOW MUCH TIME IT'S TAKEN FOR NEWNAN TO BUILD OUT OR OTHER AREAS, OTHER TOWNS AND COMMUNITIES. AUBURN-OPELIKA FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT'S YOUR ESTIMATE ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO? AND
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I WOULDN'T SAY FULLY BUILD OUT, BUT IF IT'S I MEAN, IT'S THAT'S A REALLY HARD QUESTION. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT A REALLY LARGE PORTION OF THIS RETAIL KIND OF HAS TO COME TOGETHER IN ORDER FOR ME TO FINANCE THIS. SO I CAN'T I CAN'T LOOK AT YOU AND SAY, I'M GOING TO HAVE EVERY INCH OF THAT BUILT DAY ONE. RIGHT. THAT'S I CAN'T SAY THE BANKS AREN'T GOING TO LEND TO ME, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR IT ALL IN CASH. SO I HAVE TO HAVE A NUMBER OF THESE LEASES DONE RIGHT. SO I'D SAY A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE RETAIL THAT I'M SHOWING ON THAT SCREEN SHOULD HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY. WHEN IT COMES TO FULL BUILD OUT OF THE PROJECT, I WOULD ESTIMATE, CALL IT 5 TO 7 YEARS. IF I HAD TO GIVE A GOOD CASE SCENARIO. BEST CASE IS FASTER, WORST CASE IS LONGER. THERE'S REALLY NO SPECIFIC TIMELINE ON THAT BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT USES, AND WE'LL HAVE MISCELLANEOUS PIECES TO THIS THING AS WELL. IT'S JUST YOU ALWAYS DO. YOU HAVE THAT FIVE YEAR WHERE YOU'RE GOING, WHAT IS IT? BUT I CAN SAY THE ONLY WAY BRANT AND I CAN CAN DO THIS IS TO LEAD WITH THAT RETAIL. AND THE ONLY WAY WE CAN LEAD WITH THAT RETAIL IS TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT CO-TENANCY, WHICH IS MORE THAN JUST 1 OR 2 BOXES. WE HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST ENOUGH TO TO HANDLE THE DEBT SERVICE AND COVER THE TAXES AND DO ALL THE THINGS WE HAVE TO DO. OTHERWISE IT JUST DOESN'T. IT DOESN'T WORK. AND YOU SAY THAT THAT WAS 5 TO 7 FOR THE COMPLETE BUILD. I WOULD SAY FOR CALL IT 90%, 9%. BUT THE PHASE I GUESS ONE I GUESS IS THAT MORE OF A. IS IT ON ITS OWN? YOU KNOW, KIND OF I'M, WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO NOT MAKE EVERY PIECE CONTINGENT UPON THE OTHER, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. RIGHT.BECAUSE IT'S A BIG PROJECT. SO WE HAVE TO ALLOCATE BASIS ELSEWHERE. CAN'T HAVE THE WHOLE BASIS OF ALL THAT LAND CARRIED UNDER ONE THING. SO I AM TRYING TO DEVELOP AS MUCH OF THAT RETAIL RIGHT OUT OF THE GATES AT ONE TIME AS POSSIBLE. HER BEST CASE SCENARIO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE HOPEFUL IF EVERYTHING CAN CONTINUE TO LINE UP CORRECTLY AND IF I CAN GET THE TENANT DEALS DONE, WE WOULD LOVE TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, CALL IT, I MUST SAY FALL OF 26 TO TO AT LEAST BE OUT THERE WORKING. I APPRECIATE EVERY TIME I CALL YOU OR TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS, YOU GIVE ME THE QUESTION. YOU KNOW THE ANSWERS. YES, SIR. DID I ASK YOU BEST? YOUR ABILITY, I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I TOLD YOU FROM THE GET GO. I'M NOT AGAINST THIS PROJECT. I MEAN, I'LL BE ONE OF THE FIRST ONES IN THE DOOR. BUT LIKE YOU MENTIONED BEFORE, YOU'VE GOTTA WORK WITH THE BUDGET. AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO UP HERE TOO, YOU KNOW. SO. AND WE'VE BEEN I MEAN, WE'LL BE WE'LL BE TALKING MORE BE MORE CONTACT. YES, SIR. YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOME MORE ANSWERS FOR ME NOW. I KNOW I'M TRYING.
YEAH. AND I CAN SAY ONE COMMENT. LAST WEEK I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH TYLER PEAK, WHO IS OUR DISTRICT ENGINEER FOR DOT, ON A DIFFERENT MATTER. BUT ANYWAY, I ASKED HIM WHILE I HAD HIM ON THE PHONE, ARE YOU WORKING WITH MATT AND HIS GROUP? AND HE ASSURED ME THAT HIS TEAM IS WORKING WITH Y'ALL TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE GREAT CONCERNS THERE, BECAUSE WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE DOT IS PLANNING A LOT OF WORK ON LAFAYETTE PARKWAY AS PART OF THEIR REALIGNMENT OF DAVIS ROAD. OUR 27 EXCUSE ME, ON DAVIS ROAD AND I DON'T KNOW, JAMES, THE THE EMAIL WE GOT YESTERDAY FROM THAT GENTLEMAN THAT WANTS TO COME AND MEET WITH US WITH WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS AS DOT. WELL, HE'S PROPOSING TO HAVE A MEETING WITH US TO DISCUSS ALL OF THE ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PROGRAMED AND WITHIN THE DOT STEP, THE STATEWIDE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOUR YEAR PLAN, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT THAT WE MAY WANT TO PROPOSE OR OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE STIP. WE COULD TALK ABOUT ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO DISCUSS. WE SO CURRENTLY, THEIR PLANS OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH DAVIS ROAD AND LAFAYETTE PARKWAY WOULD BE PROGRAMED. YOURS WOULD BE ADDED ON TOP, I GUESS A LITTLE LATER. SO WE COULD HAVE SOME DISCUSSION WITH DOT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COMFORTABLE. I THINK THAT WE'LL SEE SOME OF THAT ALREADY IN THE STIP. OKAY, OKAY. IS THERE ANY MORE WHEN I GUESS THAT'S CONSIDERED HOFFMAN. THAT'S GOING TO COME ALL THE WAY AROUND TO THE BYPASS. YES, SIR. THAT'S ALL THE WAY THROUGH. YES, SIR. WOULD THAT WOULD THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE IS. IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE THE DAVIS ROAD PARK INVOLVED? THAT WOULD BE THE THAT PIECE THERE. BUT I THINK THE OTHER PIECE IS GOING TO BE REAL IMPORTANT IS WHAT'S THE DOT GOING TO DO ON LAFAYETTE PARKWAY FROM THE WATER TOWER
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INTERSECTION OUT TO THE INTERSTATE? YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT A PLAN TO DO A LOT OF WORK THERE ALSO. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. JUST ON THAT ONE PIECE THERE, DAVIS ROAD AND HOFFMAN DRIVE, THAT WOULD BE A NOW ONE OF THE FIRST AS A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE. CORRECT. IS THAT WHAT'S PROPOSED? WE ARE PROPOSING A LIGHT THERE. BUT I MEAN, THERE'S ALSO SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS OF WIDENINGS AND TURN LANES AND D CELLS. IT'S IT'S NOT JUST A LIGHT IN.THERE'S A THERE'S A LOT OF ENGINEERING GOING ON. YEAH. ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES YOU PRESENTED THIS, THAT CENTER ROAD GOING OUT TO LAFAYETTE PARKWAY. YEAH. RIGHT THERE.
THERE'S NOT A LIGHT THERE. THERE'S STILL NOT A LIGHT THERE. NO, SIR. ONE OF THE FIRST PUSHBACKS WE HAD WAS FROM GDOT. AND IT'S PRIMARILY RELATED TO BECAUSE AT ONE TIME I WAS WANTING TO PROPOSE A LIGHT THERE. IT'S NOT CRITICAL TO THE PROJECT, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE ONE THAT THE RETAILERS REALLY KEY OFF OF, FOR STARTERS. BUT SECONDLY, GDOT PUSHED BACK VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE OF THE GRADE CHANGE. SO THERE'S A THERE'S THE HILL THAT BASICALLY GOING TOWARDS THE INTERSTATE. YOU KNOW, IT DIPS DOWN RIGHT THERE PAST THE OLD THEATER. AND SO JUST BECAUSE OF THAT, THEY IF THERE'S SIGNIFICANT GRADE CHANGE, THEY DON'T LIKE IT FROM A SIGHT LINE VISIBILITY. SO YOU THINK TWO LIGHTS IS ENOUGH TO RUN THIS TWO. NO SIR. SO THE INTENT AND I'LL TRY TO EXPLAIN THAT. SO WE WOULD HAVE A LOT OF THREE LIGHT IMPROVEMENT. WE'D HAVE TWO LIGHTS THAT DIRECTLY ACCESS THE SITE AND THE PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO DEVELOP. WE ARE LOOKING TO POTENTIALLY ADD A THIRD LIGHT AT PATTILLO, BECAUSE PATTILLO IS ROUTINELY USED AS A BYPASS. AND SO IT CREATES SOME SOME TRAFFIC ISSUES RIGHT THERE, OR AT LEAST I DON'T I DON'T GET TO EXPERIENCE EVERY DAY. BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING IS ADDING SOME LANES ALONG LAFAYETTE SO THAT THERE'S NO INTERRUPTION OF TRAFFIC FROM A FLOW PERSPECTIVE AT HOFFMAN. AND WE WOULD PUT IN A SIGNALIZED GREEN T INTERSECTION, WHICH ALLOWS A LEFT HAND MOVEMENT, AND IT STOPS WHAT WOULD BE A NEW OR THIRD LANE TO ALLOW THAT MOVEMENT. SO YOU WOULD NO LONGER HAVE THAT QUAGMIRE AT HOFFMAN. THAT'S THAT'S EXISTING. BUT THAT WOULD ALSO NEED TO TIME WITH IMPROVEMENTS AT PATTILLO. SO WE'D BE ADDING TURN LANES TO PATTILLO, COMING OFF OF PATTILLO ONTO LAFAYETTE, AS WELL AS IMPROVEMENTS TO LAFAYETTE ITSELF. AND THOSE WOULD BE TIMED SO THAT HOPEFULLY NOW THEY OPERATE BETTER BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF ILLEGAL MOVEMENT TRYING TO GET TO CHICK FIL A OR OR WHEREVER. I MEAN, IT'S SIGNIFICANT. AND SO THIS WOULD HELP FIX OR ALLEVIATE A LARGE PORTION OF THAT PROBLEM. AND LIKE I SAID, WE I JUST FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT TO TRY TO ADDRESS IT AND ADDRESS IT CORRECTLY, NOT FROM JUST A, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I'M GOING THROUGH A DRY I KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO IT CORRECTLY, SO I MAY AS WELL GO AHEAD AND PROPOSE IT NOW. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT. HEARING NONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL BE CONSIDERING THIS IN THE FUTURE.
[9. Discuss Troup County Fire Station #14 (3157 Roanoke Road) - New Construction Contract (Jay Anderson / Zac Steele)]
ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP WE'LL INVITE J. ANDERSON AND ZACH STEEL TO DISCUSS THE FIRE TO FIRE STATION NUMBER 14. RELOCATION. CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. DIRECTOR STEELE AND I ARE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY TO DISCUSS BUILDING A NEW FIRE STATION. 3157 ROANOKE ROAD. I GUESS A QUICK HISTORY CATCH UP. AS YOU'RE WELL AWARE, WE RECEIVED THIS PROPERTY FROM THE TROUP COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEM, AND I BELIEVE YOU APPROVED THE DEED OR THE TITLE TO BE TRANSFERRED OVER TO THE COUNTY. THIS WAS THE OLD TATUM SCHOOL SITE ON ROANOKE ROAD, RIGHT WHERE VERNON FERRY KIND OF VEERS OFF. AND SO PRESENTING TO YOU TO MOVE FORWARD WITH STATION 14 IS THE FIRST FIRE STATION WE'VE BUILT, I THINK SINCE 2013, WHICH WAS ONE WHITFIELD STATION OPENED, WHICH A LITTLE COMPLETELY UNIMPORTANT. HISTORY WAS THE FIRST DAY I EVER STARTED WITH THE COUNTY IS I THINK IT WAS ABOUT LUNCHTIME. AND JAMES SAID, HEY, JAY, RIDE WITH ME OUT TO THIS NEW FIRE STATION. THEY'RE GOING TO DO A RIBBON CUTTING AND HAVE A LITTLE BARBECUE. AND SO MY VERY FIRST DAY IN THE JOB WAS WHEN WE OPENED WHITFIELD STATION, WHICH WAS THE LAST NEW STATION WE BUILT. ANYWAYS, SORRY ABOUT THAT DEVIATION FROM THE PLAN THERE, BUT STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING TOGETHER. MEMBERS OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, ERIC AND MYSELF, FACILITIES MAINTENANCE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH TWO PARTNERS, ARCHITECTURE FIRM ON DESIGNING A PROTOTYPE FIRE STATION THAT WE COULD BUILD IN THE FUTURE AS NEEDS APPROACHES OR AS DEMAND DICTATES. WE COULD BUILD SOME NEW FIRE STATIONS AROUND AT VARIOUS PLACES, AND WE'D HAVE THIS PLAN FOR THE STATION READY WHENEVER WE WE NEEDED IT. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING AS A TEAM WITH TWO. THEY'RE THE SAME ARCHITECTS THAT DID THE COURTROOM, THREE THAT WE JUST OPENED THE FIRE ADMIN BUILDING, THE AG CENTER. WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM MANY TIMES ON OTHER PROJECTS, SO WE'VE BEEN MEETING FOR A YEAR AND A HALF OR SO, AT LEAST ON[01:10:02]
THIS DESIGN. AND THEN THE DESIGN WAS DONE AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT LOCATION ON ROANOKE ROAD FROM THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. AND THEN YOU APPROVED US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH GETTING THAT BID OUT. THE FINAL DESIGN. JAMES HAS A PICTURE OF THE RENDERING, THE FINAL. THAT'S THE RENDERING THE THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE FIRE STATION. AND THEN IF HE MOVES TO THE FLOOR PLAN, THE THE DESIGN DOES INCLUDE A 2 OR 3 APPARATUS. THIS PARTICULAR DESIGN HERE JUST SHOWS A TWO BAY. BUT IT ALSO WE HAVE PLANS WHERE IT SHOWS A THREE BAY AND IT WOULD JUST DEPEND ON THE LOCATION. DO WE WANT TWO BAYS OF EQUIPMENT OR THREE BAYS? BUT THE DESIGN INCLUDES EITHER A 2 OR 3 BAY STATION, A FRONT OFFICE AREA FOR DORM ROOMS, TWO FULL BATHROOMS, A SHIFT COMMANDER SUITE, A KITCHEN, A GEAR ROOM, MANY OTHER AREAS THAT HELP SUPPORT. THERE'S A BACK PORCH, A FITNESS AREA, BUT THIS IS KIND OF OUR PROTOTYPE FIRE STATION. MOVING FORWARD. WE POSTED THIS AND PUT IT OUT TO BID ON OCTOBER 13TH, WE HAD A MANDATORY PRE-BID MEETING ON SITE THERE AT ROANOKE ROAD. AS WE WE USUALLY DO SO THAT THE POTENTIAL CONTRACTORS CAN SEE THE SITE, SEE WHAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH, SEE SEE THE AREA.SO WE HAD THAT MANDATORY PRE-BID ON OCTOBER 21ST. SEVERAL CONTRACTORS ATTENDED THAT, AND THEN WE WERE ABLE TO LAST TUESDAY ON OCTOBER 25TH, WE HAD THE BID OPENING. LAST TUESDAY WE HAD WE RECEIVED TEN BIDS LAST TUESDAY. THE BID TABULATION SHEET IS IN THERE OF ALL TEN CONTRACTORS. WE EACH WE ASKED EACH CONTRACTOR TO SUBMIT THREE PRICES. ONE IS THE BASE BID, WHICH WAS A TWO BASE STATION, A SECOND PRICE, WHICH WAS ADD ALT NUMBER ONE, WHICH WAS A CASCADE ROOM TO BE POTENTIALLY BUILT ON THE SIDE OF THE THE APPARATUS BAY, WHICH IS A CYLINDER FILLING AREA TO TO FILL OUR TANKS, AIR TANKS. AND THEN THE ADULT TWO WAS WHAT WOULD IT COST TO BUILD THE THREE BAY SO THAT WE WOULD KNOW WHAT IS THE BASE PRICE TO BUILD THE TWO BAY? WHAT'S A LITTLE BIT ADD ON TO BUILD THE CASCADE ROOM, AND THEN WHAT THE ADD ON WOULD BE TO CONVERT IT TO A THREE BAY. THOSE ALL THOSE CAME IN LAST TUESDAY. LIKE I SAID, THE LOW PRICE ON THE BASE BID WAS PRINCIPAL CONSTRUCTION HERE OUT OF LAGRANGE, WHICH WAS $3,299,000. THAT WAS THE LOW BASE BID THAT WE RECEIVED. THEY ALSO HAD THE LOW PRICE ON ALT NUMBER ONE, 40,000 FOR THE CASCADE ROOM. THAT WAS ALSO THE LOWEST PRICE OUT OF ALL TEN. SO WITH THESE BEFORE US, THE PLANS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY ALL OF THE APPLICABLE AGENCIES. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT FOR THE SEPTIC TANK PERMITS READY. GDOT IS WORKING ON THE FINAL FOR THE DRIVEWAY ACCESS. ALL THE APPLICABLE AGENCIES HAVE REVIEWED THIS AND WE ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD AT THIS POINT WITH YOUR WITH YOUR BLESSING. ZACH. ANYTHING? NO. I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK. AND JAY AND TO W.R. AND THE BOARD SUPPORT ON THIS PROJECT, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT'S GONE INTO IT THAT IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME. IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A NEW FIRE STATION. THROWING THIS UP THERE AS WELL AS Y'ALL KNOW, FROM DATING PROPERTY TO DESIGN THEM. WHAT'S THE MOST MODERN DAY FIT THROUGH THIS? AND SO SO I APPRECIATE ALL THAT SUPPORT. AND THERE'S BEEN YOU KNOW, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO FIRE STATIONS ON ROANOKE ROAD. WHAT'S THAT LOOK LIKE. SO OUR PROPOSAL FOR THAT WOULD BE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE THE STAFF PERSONNEL FROM STATION TEN INTO THE NEW STATION 14, AS WELL AS COMBINE THE THE STAFFING FROM STATION 14 ON AIRTRAN PARKWAY INTO THIS AS WELL. THAT'LL PUT FOUR PEOPLE AT THIS STATION TO BE ABLE TO RUN A SQUAD AND OR LADDER, TRUCK OR ENGINE. WE'LL SEE WHAT THE BEST FIT FOR THE DEPLOYMENT ANALYSIS OF THE AERIAL DEVICE IS ONCE WE GET INTO THAT, BUT THIS WILL ALSO HOUSE THE SHIP COMMAND, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE JAMES, CAN YOU PULL THAT FLOOR PLAN BACK UP? YOU CAN SEE WE TOOK A SIX DORM SETUP AND DESIGNED IT TO HAVE FOUR DORMS FOR THESE PERSONNEL AS WELL AS THE SHIP COMMANDER'S SUITE IN THEIR IN THEIR OFFICE. SO THIS WOULD BE THE ON DUTY OPERATIONAL SUPERVISOR, BATTALION CHIEF, IF YOU WILL ALL BE HOUSED OUT OF THERE. BUT THAT CAN BE CONVERTED BACK INTO A SIX DORM. HAVE WE EVER GROW TO THAT EXTENT OF NEEDING SIX DORMS? WE CAN CONVERT THAT BACK INTO THAT, BUT IT ALLOWS A MIDDLE MANAGEMENT OPERATIONAL OFFICE, IF YOU WILL, AS WELL AS HOUSING FOR FOR ON DUTY EMPLOYEES, WHICH WOULD BE THE THE GOAL TO HAVE HERE IS TO HAVE TWO SQUAD AND TWO ON SOME SORT OF FIRE APPARATUS, WHETHER IT BE AN ENGINE OR AERIAL. WE'LL HAVE TO. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AND GET WITH MEREDITH AT GIS TO TRY TO GET THAT AERIAL BACK IN MORE OF A CENTRAL PART OF THE COUNTY, TO BE MORE CENTRAL THAN ON NECESSARILY ON ONE PORTION OF THE COUNTY. IF THAT'S THE RIGHT
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FIT, WE'LL LEAVE IT THERE. IF WE NEED TO MOVE IT, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL. BUT THE GOAL WILL BE TO HAVE FOUR PEOPLE IN THIS STATION, TWO ON THE SQUAD AND TWO ON AN ENGINE AS WE MOVE FORWARD, AND WE'LL OBVIOUSLY WORK WITH ALL OUR COMMAND STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING THE BEST DECISION. BUT THAT'S THE CURRENT STAFF RECOMMENDATION. AS WE BUILD THE STATION. PUT IT ON THIS PROPERTY. OKAY. WHAT IS A MILD DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE NEW STATION 14 AND THE STATION TEN? THE WHAT'S THE MILEAGE BETWEEN THOSE TWO STATIONS? BETWEEN THE 3157 ROANOKE AND STATION TEN. THAT'S IT. 4.5 MILES I BELIEVE. SO WHAT DID DO YOU KNOW EXACTLY THE MILEAGE FROM THERE TO THE COUNTY LINE? NO, TWO AND A HALF, TEN MILES. WELL, ARE YOU PLANNING TO KEEP THIS OTHER STATION OPEN? MAYBE AS A VOLUNTEER STATION, JUST TO KEEP IT OPEN FOR SO THEY CAN HAVE THEIR FIRE? YES, SIR. YEAH. WE'RE NOT CLOSING ANYTHING. WE MAY SHIFT PERSONNEL STAFFING WISE, BUT THAT THAT'LL STILL HOUSE FIRE APPARATUS, TANKERS AND ALL OUR MARINE OPERATIONS WILL BE OUT OF THERE. FROM BOATS TO DIVE EQUIPMENT TO PICK UP TRUCKS THAT SHUTTLES THAT STUFF AROUND. OKAY. NO FIRE STATIONS ARE CLOSING, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE ON AIRTRAN PARKWAY, WHICH LED YOU NOT BECAUSE THAT AFFECTS SOME OF THOSE INSURANCE RATES OUT THERE WITH THE ISO RATE. CORRECT? YEAH. OKAY. WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO HAVE LITTLE TO ANY IF ANYTHING, WE'RE TRYING TO BENEFIT THE ISO RATINGS AND WE ARE TRYING TO IMPACT ANYBODY'S. OKAY. AS I SAID, A LOT OF WORK'S GONE IN. IT'S BEEN PROBABLY 18 MONTHS OR TWO YEARS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS. PERMITS ARE READY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS. SO OH AND THE FUNDING IT'LL COME OUT OF SPLOST FIVE. AND THEN ANY REMAINDERS I BELIEVE WOULD BE SPLOST CAPITAL AND SPLASH SIX FOR THE FUNDING. I THINK MR. MOSELEY AND I TALKED YESTERDAY A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN OR HOW TO THE FUNDING, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SPLOST FIVE DOES NOT HAVE THE FULL AMOUNT THAT'S NEEDED FOR THIS PROJECT. AND I DON'T GUESS WE KNOW. DO WE KNOW YET WHAT THE FULL COST OF THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE? WITH ALL THE WE KNOW THAT WE GET INTO ALL OF THE OTHER EXPENSES THAT GO ALONG WITH THE BUILDING ARCHITECTURE, FEES AND THE FIXTURES, FURNISHINGS, EQUIPMENT, THE SOIL TESTING. WHAT ELSE? LANDSCAPING? YES, IT'S ABOUT 3.9. OKAY. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, SPLOST FIVE DOES NOT HAVE THAT TOTAL AMOUNT LEFT IN IT. SO THE REMAINDER TO COVER THE ENTIRE PROJECT COST WOULD HAVE TO BE COVERED I GUESS OUT OF CAPITAL, TO BE FAIR. I MEAN, THE 3.9 IS ONLY WITH WITH THE TWO BAY. IF WE EXTENDED IT TO THE THREE, OBVIOUSLY THAT DOES EXPEND THE MONEY MORE. AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S A THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD AS WELL. OUR BOARD AND BY STAFF I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE CERTAINLY NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION TOO. THE CONCEPT OF THIS, OF THIS CONCEPT PLAN, YOU KNOW, WAS TO HAVE THAT ABILITY. IF WE MOVE STATIONS, IF WE BUILD A STATION, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT WE WANT TO RELOCATE STATION ONE THAT'S ALSO NOW CITY LIMITS FURTHER SOUTH AND MAYBE TO THE WEST. AND AGAIN, THAT MAY BE A STATION THAT NEEDS THREE BAYS VERSUS TWO BAYS. AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DISCUSSED. I THINK TO THE CHAIRMAN'S POINT. WE CERTAINLY HAVE FUNDING IN OUR CAPITAL ACCOUNT TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ANY OVERAGES FROM SPLOST FIVE. OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE GOT JUST ABOUT THREE, APPROXIMATELY $3 MILLION LEFT IN SPLOST FIVE FOR COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND WE'VE BEEN SETTING ASIDE THAT MONEY FOR A FIRE STATION. AND SO ANYTHING ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME EITHER FROM MONEYS COLLECTED IN SPOT SIX OR OUT OF OUR CAPITAL FUND. AND I THINK THIS IS CERTAINLY AN APPROPRIATE CAPITAL PURCHASE, CERTAINLY, BECAUSE IT IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY LONG TERM PURCHASE FOR OUR COUNTY AND CERTAINLY WOULD WOULD MEET THE POLICY OF CAPITAL. DELINQUENT SPLOST FIVE ALL THE WAY DOWN. IF IF AN EMERGENCY CAME UP BEFORE YOU STARTED YOUR FUNDS OR YOU SPLOST SIX REALLY STARTED ACCUMULATING. THAT'S RIGHT. SO WE JUST STARTED DATING SPLOST SIX IN JANUARY, SO WE'RE JUST STARTING TO ACCUMULATE IT. THE GOOD NEWS IS, AS YOU'VE SEEN FROM SOME OF THE FINANCIAL REPORTS, WE'RE SEEING A VERY SUCCESSFUL SPLOST SIX CAMPAIGN SO FAR. WE'RE COLLECTING MUCH MORE THAN WE EXPECTED TO TO TO CREATE. THAT BEING SAID, COMMISSIONER JONES POINT, I THINK WE HAVE SOME SOME FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO PULL FROM CAPITAL TO MAYBE HAVE A A LESS OF AN IMPACT ON SPLOST FIVE. SO IF TO HIS POINT IS, IF IF YOU HAD A EMERGENCY PURCHASE LIKE YOU NEEDED TO REPLACE A TRUCK OR YOU NEED YOU WOULD HAVE THAT FUND TO BE ABLE TO TO, TO COME TO. AND SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE WE MIGHT CONSIDER EVEN A SHARED APPROACH WHERE MAYBE A 5050 APPROACH, 50% COMES FROM SPLOST, 50% COMES FROM CAPITAL. I KNOW YOU SAID THIS PROJECT STARTED ABOUT A[01:20:02]
YEAR AND A HALF AGO, YOU KNOW, IN THE PROCESS. AND AND THROUGH THAT TIME, I THINK SOME DYNAMICS HAVE CHANGED. YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THE THE THINGS THAT KIND OF EVEN PUSHED TOWARD THIS MORE IS THE, I GUESS, PINE ROAD PARK KIND OF DEVELOPMENTS THERE. A LOT OF IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT MORE USAGE OF THE LAKE DIVE TEAM NOW, THINGS LIKE THAT. I GUESS MY BIGGEST QUESTION IS, IS THAT LOOKING AT THE DESIGN OF THIS STATION COMPARED TO THE OTHERS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I SEE A COUPLE OF NEW CHIEFS HERE THAT JUST GOT PROMOTED, BUT FROM A LOGISTICAL STANDPOINT AND STUFF, I KNOW TRUCKS MOVING AROUND AND THE APPARATUSES ARE BIGGER NOW.SOME OF THESE STATIONS, THIS ONE LOOKING AT THE THIRD BAY, IS THAT PRETTY MUCH STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS FAR AS THAT GOES. I MEAN, THAT'S I KNOW THESE GUYS HAVE BEEN IN THESE POSITIONS ABOUT A WEEK NOW, BUT HAVE Y'ALL HAD TIME TO DISCUSS THE YEAH, THOSE SITUATIONS.
THAT'S A GOOD POINT. FIRST OFF, THANKS FOR POINTING THAT OUT. YOU KNOW, YOU GOT RODNEY EVANS AND ROY CADENHEAD ARE BOTH PROMOTED TO THE OPERATIONS AND LOGISTICS CHIEF IN HERE. SO EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE GETTING HOMEWORK PROJECTS FROM UP HERE. SO KEEP ON TALKING. THEY THEY GOT A LOT OF STUFF TO DO. BUT I THINK THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON ANY FIRE STATION MOVING FORWARD TO THIRD, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE BUILDING INTO THE CURRENT TIMES OVER THE PAST WHEN WE BUILD A TWO BAY FIRE STATION BECAUSE NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THE FIRE APPARATUS THAT WE HAVE NOW AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING BUILT IN THE FUTURE, THERE'S NO WAY TO BE ABLE TO PREDICT THAT IN FIVE, TEN YEARS THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE FIRE BASED EMS OR TRANSPORT SERVICES THAT ARE GOING TO REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL BAY FOR THAT MEDICAL UNIT INSIDE THESE FIRE STATIONS. I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING, BUT I THINK WE ALWAYS GOT TO BE PREPARED WITH THE THIRD BAY. AND THE EMS IS OBVIOUSLY A HOT TOPIC FOR, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE WE HAVE ROOM FOR NOT ONLY THE CURRENT APPARATUS WE HAVE NOW, BUT AS OUR FLEET EXPANDS.
BUT THAT EMS OPERATION AS WELL, AND, YOU KNOW, A THREE BAY OPERATION, IF YOU TALK ABOUT JUST THIS LAYOUT HERE WITH, YOU KNOW, THE FOUR DORM ROOMS AND THE SHIP COMMANDER SUITE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SHIFT COMMANDER'S VEHICLE, A SQUAD AND WHATEVER FIRE APPARATUS, WHETHER IT BE AN ENGINE OR AN AERIAL THAT TAKES UP THREE OF YOUR BAYS JUST FOR DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS THERE. THAT'S NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT SPARE RESERVE APPARATUS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE HOUSED IN THESE FIREHOUSES. I THINK TO HIS POINT. I MEAN, AGAIN, I THINK WE GET INTO THE PUSH AND THE PULL, THEY'RE PUSHING FOR MORE AND I'M AND I'M PULLING THEM BACK SOMETIMES. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF, OF, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I, I JOKE ABOUT THIS, BUT I'M A BIT OF A TIGHTWAD. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, I'M TRYING TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT STATION AS WELL. AND SO, YOU KNOW, DO WE, DO WE SPEND THE MONEY ON THE, ON THE THREE BAY NOW OR DO WE MOVE THAT MONEY AND UTILIZE IT FOR THREE BAY DOWN THE ROAD SOMEWHERE ELSE? AND SO, I MEAN, DO WE HAVE THE ADEQUATE FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. YES. BUT I'M ALWAYS, ALWAYS TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO SAVE MONEY. LET ME LET ME MENTION THIS. WHILE AGO WE TALKED ABOUT THE PEOPLE BEING AFFECTED, BUT WE KIND OF HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT, I WOULD ASSUME THAT MOVING, CREATING THAT NEW STATION IS GOING TO BRING A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE IN THAT AREA WITHIN THE FIVE MILES, AND THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD BIT OF DEVELOPMENT THERE ON WHITAKER ROAD AND BACK OVER TOWARDS HERITAGE HILLS AND THAT AREA. SO I ASSUME THIS IS GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THAT AREA. WITH THAT AT 3157 ROANOKE, YOU TALK ABOUT ALL THE WHITAKER BENEFITS A LOT OF WAYS DOWN CAMERA. IT IT STOPS SHORT OF CAMERON POINT. THE RIVER CLUB PLACES RIGHT IN THERE. BUT I THINK PROBABLY PAST YELLOWJACKET A MILE OR TWO MAYBE. I'M NOT SURE THE EXACT MILEAGE BUT SO THAT THAT WHOLE, YOU KNOW, COUNTY SIDE OF WHITAKER BECOMES A BENEFITING FACTOR IN THAT, THAT PROBABLY DIDN'T HAVE THAT BENEFIT. NOW, I'M NOT SURE IF ERETRON STATION ON AIRPORT PARKWAY CUTS ON TO WHITAKER JUST BY IN THAT FIVE MILES. YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY CLOSE. BUT YEAH THERE'S A LOT OF COUNTY. YEAH. ALL THROUGHOUT THAT WHITAKER THAT THAT BENEFITS FROM THIS PLACEMENT OF THE FIRE STATION FOR SURE. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT.
NOT THANK YOU ALL. AND WE WILL BE CONSIDERING THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. JUST FOR
[10. Consideration of December 16, 2025 5:00 p.m. Business Meeting (Eric Mosley) ]
QUICKLY TO GO OVER THIS AFTERNOON'S AGENDA, WE DO HAVE THE. OF COURSE, APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND THE WORK IN THE MINUTES UNDER SPECIAL BUSINESS, WE HAVE THE CONSIDERATION OF THE RIDLEY LAKE PARK FUNDING SUPPORT REQUEST CONSIDERATION. THE GROUND LEASE AMENDMENT FOR PROJECT WING, CONSIDERATION OF THE HANGAR DEVELOPMENT WITH THE GROUND LEASE CONSIDERATION OF THE TROUP COUNTY FIRE STATION NUMBER 14 UNDER PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE TWO ITEMS. ONE IS FOR A REZONING FOR TIMOTHY STAMP, 1462 NEW FRANKLIN ROAD, AND THE SECOND IS THE CONSIDERATION OF THE MORATORIUM FOR DATA CENTERS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM IS EXECUTIVE SESSION. BUT[01:25:08]
BEFORE I DO THAT REAL QUICK, I THINK MR. COUNTY MANAGER MIGHT GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY JUST TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW INFORMATION OFFICER TO THE PUBLIC. PUT HER ON THE SPOT FOR A MINUTE SO EVERYBODY KNOWS. YES. MACKENZIE GAY IS HERE IN THE FRONT ROW. MACKENZIE, YOU CAN KIND OF WAVE YOUR HAND. MACKENZIE STARTED TWO WEEKS AGO. NOW SHE'S HAD TWO. SHE'S BEEN LIVING THE GOVERNMENT LIFE TWO SHORT WEEKS, YOU KNOW, WITH THANKSGIVING RIGHT AROUND THE BAT. BUT CERTAINLY EXCITED TO HAVE HER COMES WITH A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO REALLY UPPING OUR GAME WITH COMMUNICATIONS. AND SO IF YOU GET A CHANCE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO MACKENZIE AND SHE'S AROUND. SO THANK YOU FOR CATCHING MACKENZIE ALL EXCITED BECAUSE HER ALMA MATER HAS FINALLY FOUND THEIR FIFTH COACH IN THE LAST SIX YEARS, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT AUBURN. SO GOSH, YOU CHOSE TO COME TO THE RIGHT PLACE. WE DON'T HAVE AN EXIT PACKAGE LIKE AUBURN UNIVERSITY THOUGH. I'M SORRY. ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM IS[EXECUTIVE SESSION]
EXECUTIVE SESSION. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. WE COME OUT OF THE WORK SESSION AND GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS PERSONNEL MATTERS. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION. WE COME OUT OF YOUR. YOU DIDN'T HEAR IT? YOU DIDN'T HEAR IT? YEAH. YOU GOT SOMEBODY HIT IT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? YOU GOT TO SAY PERSONNEL LEAVE, PERSONNEL MATTER. ALRIGHT, OKAY, I HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? YES. ALL RIGHT, I GUESS MOTION CARRIES. SAYS I'LL VOTE. IT AIN'T SHOWN. OH. OH,* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.