Nov 04, 2025 Board of Commissioners

[I. OPENING]

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EVERYONE TO OUR TUESDAY, NOVEMBER THE 4TH, 2025 BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS MEETING. I'M GOING TO ASK THE COUNTY MANAGER IF HE DOESN'T MIND. LEAD US IN A WORD OF PRAYER. BEFORE WE START OUR MEETING, SIR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU, LORD, FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EMBRACE THE GOVERNANCE OF TROUP COUNTY. WE ASK YOU, LORD, THAT YOU WOULD JUST GUIDE OUR DECISIONS. HELP US TO MAKE WISE DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE THANK YOU, LORD FOR YOUR MANY BLESSINGS. YOUR FORGIVENESS, LORD GOD, AND JUST YOUR INFINITE GRACE. WE JUST ASK, LORD THAT YOU BE WITH US TONIGHT. GUIDE OUR STEPS. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN.

SO IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE RISE. AND I'LL ASK COMMISSIONER SCOTT TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG. THANKS, FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND

[III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA/MINUTES]

[IV. Special Business ]

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM IS CONSIDERATION OF SURPLUS PROPERTY FOR BOTH RIDGE ROAD AND EICHELBERGER. I'M GOING TO LET MARK KIND OF JUST EXPLAIN IF THE VOTE'S TAKEN HOW THE VOTE SHOULD BE READ I GUESS, OR VOTED ON. EITHER WAY YOU COULD EITHER CONSIDER IT YOU CAN TROUBLE AGAIN. YOU CAN DO IT EITHER WAY. YOU EITHER CAN CONSIDER THEM JOINTLY. IF YOU WANT TO. JUST BE SURE TO INCLUDE THE THE MOTION INCLUSIVE OF BOTH OF BOTH AND THE DISCUSSION. BE INCLUSIVE OF BOTH. AND YOU COULD DO IT JOINTLY OR YOU COULD TAKE THEM UP ONE AT A TIME. OKAY. THERE'S REALLY NO RIGHT OR WRONG WAY TO DO IT. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE ON WHEN THE PROCESS WILL TAKE PLACE, OR DO WE HAVE TO WAIT OR. 30 DAYS? OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE BOARD, I JUST ASSUME WE DO BOTH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME. WE CAN HAVE ANY DISCUSSION WE HAVE OR JUST CONSIDER THEM BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

HEARING NONE. THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE A RESOLUTION FOR THE DISPOSITION OF SURPLUS PROPERTY, WHICH WILL BE DEFINED AS 170 AND 172 REED ROAD AND 100 EICHELBERGER STREET. SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. SO MOVED. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MOTION IS CARRIED. ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP,

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ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THANK YOU. MOTION IS CARRIED. THE NEXT ITEM I HAVE IS THE REPLACEMENT OF 20 SCBA CYLINDERS. THESE ARE THE 4500 PSI CARBON FIBER CYLINDERS THAT GO ON THE SCBA.

SO THEY HAVE A 15 YEAR LIFESPAN. WE CURRENTLY HAVE 146 TOTAL CYLINDERS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SIX OF THEM ARE OUT OF SERVICE, AND 122 OF THEM ARE GETTING HYDRO IN 2026. THAT WILL EXPIRE IN 2031. WE CAME UP WITH A PLAN IN 2023 TO REPLACE TEN ANNUALLY. WE DID THAT IN 2023. WE DID NOT REPLACE ANY IN 2024. SO WE'RE COMING BEFORE YOU IN 2025 TO REQUEST THE REPLACEMENT OF 20 OF THESE CYLINDERS. AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS IN INCREMENTS OF TEN, AT LEAST THROUGH THE NEXT 4 OR 5 YEARS, TO KEEP FROM HAVING ONE MASS PURCHASE OF 122 CYLINDERS IN 2031. THESE ARE $1,427.68, FOR A TOTAL OF $28,553.60. AND THIS IS SPLOST FIVE FIRE DEPARTMENT PURCHASE. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? YOU SAID AFTER FIVE YEARS, 122. YES, SIR. THE NEXT BATCH IN WHAT'S IT'S FIGURED AT 2023 BECAUSE WE'LL HYDRO TEST THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR. SO IN 2031, 122 CYLINDERS WILL ALL GO. HAVE REACHED THEIR LIFE SERVICE SPAN AT 15 YEARS AT THE BEGINNING OF 2031. SO DO YOU MIND ELABORATING ON WHAT HYDRO. SO WHEN THEY HYDRO TEST EACH THESE CYLINDERS THEY DO IT EVERY FIVE YEARS. AND DURING THE LIFE OF THE CYLINDER THEY DO IT THREE DIFFERENT TIMES. THEY CHECK FOR CRACKS, LEAKS, ANY SORTS OF DAMAGE TO IT THAT WOULD PREVENT IT, ESPECIALLY IN AN IDEAL ENVIRONMENT. HEAT, ANYTHING, EXTREME CONDITIONS THAT COULD PREVENT IT FROM BEING A LIFE SAFETY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT ON THAT FIREFIGHTER'S BACK. SO VERY RARELY DO WE HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THEM PASSING WITH 146 TOTAL CYLINDERS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. BUT AS YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SIX OF THEM THAT ARE EXPIRED ALREADY. AND I THINK PROBABLY 2 OR 3 OF THOSE ARE PROBABLY DAMAGED INSTEAD OF NOT EXPIRED. SO OUT OF 146 TOTAL CYLINDERS, THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY GOOD ODDS IN LIFE SPAN OF THOSE. BUT THEY GO THROUGH IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO ISSUE THAT WOULD CREATE THEM TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT IN THAT ENVIRONMENT. AND AFTER 15 YEARS REGARDLESS, OR THREE FIVE YEAR

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WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT MOBILE 911 CENTER IS OUT OUTFITTED THE EXACT SAME WAY.

THAT WAY, IF WE EVER HAVE TO GO, THE STAFF CAN GO PLUG AND PLAY RIGHT INTO THERE, AND THAT'LL BECOME A KEY FIXTURE WHEN WE GO TO THE TECHNOLOGY. SOFTWARE UPGRADES TO NEXT GEN 901. THE IP BASED OFF THE ANALOG SOFTWARE, HOPEFULLY NEXT SUMMER AS WELL. AND THAT FLOOR, THE SAMPLE SHE SHOWED THAT'S UNDER THE CARPET NOW. YES, SIR. ONE. SO THIS IS GOING TO TAKE THE CARPET OUT AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE THE CARPET OUT REFINISH IT. AND THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE SPARE TILES I BELIEVE. I ASKED HER THIS AFTERNOON TO CONFIRM IT, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE RAISED SPARE TILES SO THEY CAN RUN ALL THEIR WIRING UNDER THE FLOOR THAT'S IN THERE.

GOTCHA. THE RAISED FLOOR? YES, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT. IF NOT, THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE E911 REQUEST FOR UPGRADES FOR BOTH THEIR FLOORING AND THEIR PROGRAM FOR THE 911 CENTER. SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. SO MOVED, MR. CHAIR, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

MOTION IS CARRIED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP, WE'LL INVITE JAY ANDERSON TO DISCUSS THE WHITE ROSE SOCCER COMPLEX FINAL LANDSCAPING PACKAGE QUOTE. GOOD MORNING.

CHAIRMAN. GENTLEMEN. GOOD AFTERNOON. AFTERNOON. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER TODAY AT THE WORK SESSION THAT I'M HERE FOR THE TO PRESENT THE THE QUOTE OR PROPOSALS FOR THE FINAL LANDSCAPE PACKAGE AT THE SOCCER EXPANSION. I KNOW JAMES HAD SHOWED SOME RECENT DRONE PHOTOS LAST TIME THAT WERE REACHING COMPLETION. AND AND SO WE HAD TAKEN BID PROPOSALS OR PROPOSALS FROM LOCAL LANDSCAPE CONTRACTORS FOR THE LANDSCAPING. WE HAD FIVE GET RETURNED, WHICH IS FOR ALL OF THE ENTRANCES OFF OF WHITESVILLE ROAD OR FORT DRIVE, ALL THE ISLANDS IN THE PARKING LOT, LANDSCAPING AROUND THE GYM, IN THE CLASSROOM THAT WE'VE KEPT, AND ALSO LANDSCAPING AROUND. WHAT WAS THE EXCEPTIONAL ED BUILDING OR THE OLD BAND BUILDING WHEN IT WAS TROUP HIGH SCHOOL? SO TO LANDSCAPE ALL THE OTHER AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE THE GRASSY FIELDS, WE GOT FIVE PROPOSALS AND THE LOW PRICE WAS GARDEN SOLUTIONS AT $123,754. AND I

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AND THAT'LL BE WILL BE BEFORE YOU IN TWO WEEKS, TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY TO HAVE THAT FINAL PIECE OF THE GRANTS BEEN APPROVED. CORRECT. WE'VE. YEAH, THE GRANT'S BEEN APPROVED AND THE MONEY'S BEEN ACCEPTED, WHICH IS A TOTAL OF 700,000. SO WE'RE BASICALLY DOWN TO ALLOCATING EXACTLY HOW THE 700,000 IS SPENT. AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE SOME OF THIS LANDSCAPE MONEY AS OUR MATCH TOWARDS THAT, WHICH WILL BE A GOOD THING. WHAT WILL THESE FUNDS COME FROM AT THIS POINT? THE FUNDS WILL HAVE TO COME FROM THE CIP FUND. SO WITH THIS LANDSCAPING, ONCE THE PLAYGROUNDS, IS THE MONEY IN THERE? SO EVERYTHING'S TIED TOGETHER. SO IT'LL BE COMPLETED. THIS LANDSCAPE INCLUDES EVERYTHING WHICH WE'LL HOLD OFF ON THIS, THE AREA OF THE PLAYGROUND, AND DO THAT WHEN THE PLAYGROUND IS BUILT. BUT THAT'S WHY WE'LL WE'LL BE ALLOWED TO USE SOME OF THIS AS OUR MATCH TOWARDS THE PLAYGROUND, BECAUSE THIS INCLUDES ALL THE LANDSCAPING. WHAT'S YOUR TIMELINE? THE TIMELINE FOR THIS, THAT THEY'LL ORDER MATERIAL AS SOON AS IT'S APPROVED AND THAT THEN HE SAID IT'LL PROBABLY TAKE 7 TO 10 DAYS TO GET THE MATERIAL IN AND THAT THEN HE'S READY TO START ONCE THE MATERIAL HITS THE GROUND. SO 7 TO 10 DAYS AND WITH AN EXPECTATION WEATHER PENDING OF THE MIDDLE OF DECEMBER, 7 TO 10 DAYS PUTS US IN THE MIDDLE OF NOVEMBER. AND HE SAID ONE MONTH. SO THEN WE SHOULD BE DONE IN THE MIDDLE OF DECEMBER. EXCEPT FOR WHERE THE PLAYGROUND AREA IS. WE'LL JUST HOLD OFF ON THAT TILL THE PLAYGROUND IS DONE. SO. BUT HIS BUT HIS FIGURE HERE DIDN'T INCLUDE THE LANDSCAPING AT THE PLAYGROUND. THIS DOES, THIS DOES. OKAY. THIS INCLUDES ALL LANDSCAPING TO TAKE CARE OF THE REST OF EVERYTHING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. BUT THAT'S WHY WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE SOME OF THIS EXPENDITURE AS OUR MATCH TOWARDS THE PLAYGROUND. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GOOD QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. IF NOT, THEN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE FINAL LANDSCAPING PACKAGE BID FROM GARDEN SOLUTIONS IN THE AMOUNT OF $123,754, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. SO MOVED.

MR. CHAIR, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

MOTION IS CARRIED. THANK YOU. JAY, OUR FINAL ITEM UNDER SPECIAL BUSINESS IS THE CONSIDERATION OF THE TROOP TRANSIT DHS CONTRACTOR CONTRACT. GLEN IS HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. BUT THIS THIS IS REALLY DHS IS PRETTY MUCH TOLD US THIS IS THE CONTRACTOR WE HAVE TO UTILIZE, CORRECT? YEAH, THAT IS CORRECT. I THINK A CLEAN NOT CLEAN THE WAY I NEED TO PRESENT THIS IS DHS HAS AWARDED A NEW CONTRACT TO A NEW CONTRACTOR OR VENDOR. SO WHAT WHAT I'M ASKING FOR TODAY IS WE HAVE TO AGREE OR I GUESS AGREE TO THE CONTRACT WITH THE NEW VENDOR, WHICH IS FLORIDA. EVERYTHING PRETTY MUCH STAYS THE SAME. NOTHING REALLY CHANGES. THEY DO SUPPLY US THE FUNDING TO TO MOVE PEOPLE, IF YOU WILL. AND THAT'S THE THE JUSTIFICATION. THAT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. AND JUST ASK THEM FOR PERMISSION TO SIGN OFF ON IT AND AGREE. AS PART OF THE MOTION. IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD, YOU CAN EITHER AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN OR COUNTY MANAGER TO SIGN OFF ON THE AGREEMENT. OKAY. AND WHEN WILL THIS TAKE PLACE? GLEN. THIS ACTUALLY TAKES PLACE 11 111 ONE OKAY. SO WE ALREADY HAVE 11TH NOVEMBER FIRST. YES, NOVEMBER 1ST. I'M SORRY, NOVEMBER 1ST, BUT I HAVE MADE IT CLEAR TO VARIETY THAT WE THAT WE WOULD NOT SIGN OFF ON THIS OR AGREE UNTIL WE ALL AGREE TO IT, UNTIL AFTER OUR MEETING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. IF NOT, THEN I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE NEW DHS CONTRACTOR AND AUTHORIZE EITHER THE THE COUNTY CHAIRMAN OR THE COUNTY MANAGER TO SIGN OFF ON THAT NEW CONTRACT. DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

[V. Public Hearings ]

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THE FIRST APPLICATION IS THE REZONING FROM ANTHONY SHELLEY. JAMES, CAN YOU PULL UP THE PLAT FOR ME, PLEASE? OKAY. THIS CONCERNS TWO PARCELS ON HAMILTON ROAD. THE PARCEL TO THE EAST IS A COMMERCIAL PARCEL, AND THEY'RE ASKING TO SHIFT PROPERTY LINES. THE PARCEL WAS ACTUALLY SURROUNDED BY THE RESIDENTIAL. SO NOW THEY WANT TO SHIFT THE PROPERTY LINES.

THE COMMERCIAL WILL ENCOMPASS THAT DARK LINE. AND THEN THE RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO THEY'RE ASKING TO REZONE TO APPROXIMATELY TWO PLUS ACRES TO COMMERCIAL FROM RESIDENTIAL TO ADD TO THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL, AND THEN THREE ACRES FROM THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL AND ADD IT ON TO THE RESIDENTIAL PARCEL. THE USE OF BOTH OF THE PARCELS WILL REMAIN THE SAME AS IT WAS, AND IT WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE SURROUNDING AREA OR THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT. BOTH PARCELS ARE CURRENTLY VACANT. THE PROPOSED USE MAY BE BURDENSOME ON DUNN STREET. THEREFORE, THE USE OF DUNN STREET SHOULD BE RESTRICTED OTHER THAN THE ACCESS VIA DUNN STREET, DEVELOPMENT OF BOTH PARCELS MAY NOT BE BURDENSOME ON PUBLIC FACILITIES. THE REZONING OF THE CUTOUTS DOES CONFORM WITH THE INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THERE IS NOT AN INTENT TO SERVE THE PARCELS WITH PUBLIC WATER AND SEPTIC.

THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS AND PLANNING COMMISSION DID VOTE 5 TO 0 IN APPROVAL, AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REZONING APPLICATION, WITH THE RESTRICTION TO ACCESS VIA DUNN STREET. THE SIGNS HAVE BEEN POSTED AT THE SITE AND AD PLACED IN THE NEWS. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE REZONING? ALL RIGHT. IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO WE ALLOW CITIZENS TO EITHER SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS REZONING. SO FIRST I'LL OPEN UP IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME FORTH. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS TY FOOTE.

I LIVE AT 11702 DALLAS MILL ROAD, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A BUTTS UP TO THE BACK SIDE OF THE PARCEL. THAT IS, I BELIEVE YOU'RE CALLING FOR IT TO RESIDENTIAL. YES, THAT'S MY PROPERTY RIGHT THERE. AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS WHAT ARE THE DO? DO WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE OF WHAT IS THE PROPOSAL ON WHAT IS GOING ON? I'M GOING TO TURN THAT OVER TO RUTH. THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS SENT IN TO US ON THESE PARCELS. IT THAT ONE WAS ALREADY LIMITED COMMERCIAL, AND THE ONE AROUND IT WAS ALREADY RESIDENTIAL. BUT THE APPLICANTS HERE, THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF THERE'S ANY. THEY CAN ANSWER IF THERE'S ANY DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL, I'LL GIVE THE APPLICANT A OPPORTUNITY. JUST A FEW MOMENTS I'M GOING TO TAKE IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE IN OPPOSITION IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORTH. YOU CAN AT THIS TIME. ALRIGHT. HEARING NO ONE ELSE IN OPPOSITION TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT. SO IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO THIS REZONING, YOU'RE WELCOME TO, YOU CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT THIS GENTLEMAN RAISED. GOOD AFTERNOON. IF YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS SHELLY ANTHONY THE THIRD. MY ADDRESS IS 180 BAYBERRY RUN IN FAYETTEVILLE, GEORGIA. OKAY. AND THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE USED FOR HOUSES. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD 16 HOUSES. THAT'S WHAT WE PLAN TO DO. AND,

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THEY'D HAVE TO BE SUBDIVIDED INTO A MAJOR SUBDIVISION. THEY'LL HAVE TO APPLY WITHIN A PRELIMINARY PLAT. IT'LL COME BEFORE YOU GUYS FOR REVIEW AND THEN GO BEFORE THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS AND PLANNING COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL. AND THEN THE FINAL PLAT WILL COME TO YOU. WE SHIFT IN COMMERCIAL, RIGHT. WE'RE SHIFTING ZONING. COMMERCIAL, YES. WHAT'S THE PURPOSE? WHAT'S THE PURPOSE? PURPOSE OF THE SHIFT. WE ALREADY HAD AN APPROVAL FOR 15 HOUSES. THE SHIFT WOULD GIVE US THE ABILITY TO DO 16. SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE SHIFT. SO WE'RE CLEAR. WE DO NOT HAVE A FLAT ON FILE FOR THE 16 HOUSES AND WE DON'T HAVE AN APPLICATION. HE WILL NEED TO PUT IN AN APPLICATION FOR THAT MAJOR SUBDIVISION. HE DOESN'T HAVE AN APPROVAL YET. OKAY. HE'S A COMMERCIAL. IF YOU IF YOU WOULD LET ME JUST TELL EVERYBODY WE'VE GOT A GREAT MICROPHONE SYSTEM. AND SO BECAUSE WE RECORD THE VIDEOS, WE TRY TO GET EVERYONE TO BE NEAR A MICROPHONE HANDHELD OR UP AT THE PODIUM. DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE A SITE PLAN? YES. WE CAN LOOK AT THE. CHANGING JUST BECAUSE THERE IS TWO RESIDENTIAL. DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE A SITE PLAN THAT WE CAN LOOK AT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE ZONING WILL ENTAIL ONCE IF IT'S APPROVED? PLAN. THERE'S NO PLAN RIGHT NOW. NO SITE PLAN RIGHT NOW. AND I THINK IF HE ONCE HE GET TO THAT STAGE, THAT STILL HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE COUNTY, I SEE. YEAH I JUST I JUST HAVE CONCERNS BECAUSE OUR FARM IS RIGHT THERE AND I WAS WANTING TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS AN APPROPRIATE BUFFER FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL AREA OR ANY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO OUR PROPERTY LINE, AS WELL AS AS WELL AS THE APPROPRIATE DRAINAGE AND PRIVACY FENCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. OKAY. SO JUST KIND OF RESTATE IT TONIGHT WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT A COMMERCIAL REZONING. SO IT'S GOING FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL. IT'S BOTH A COMMERCIAL AND A RESIDENTIAL REZONING. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAT OKAY. YEAH I WANT TO GET OKAY. RIGHT THERE ON YOUR RIGHT THERE IS 2.24 ACRES THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING OFF OF THE RESIDENTIAL AND ADDED TO THE COMMERCIAL. IF IT IS APPROVED, THEN IF YOU GO BACK TO THE WEST, THERE'S THREE ACRES THAT'S GOING TO COME IN OFF OF THE CURRENT COMMERCIAL PARCEL AND ADD IT ON TO THE RESIDENTIAL. SO IT IS TWO REZONINGS IN ONE REQUEST. IF YOUR WHOLE IF YOUR OBJECTIVE IS TO BUILD HOUSES, WHY NOT JUST DO AWAY WITH COMMERCIAL ALTOGETHER AND HAVE THE WHOLE TRACK RESIDENTIAL? WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO, MR. ANTHONY. YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT LATER ON THE COMMERCIAL WILL BE COMMERCIAL. YOU KNOW, WE WILL DO SOMETHING FROM A COMMERCIAL PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, AS WE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANT TO TRY TO GET THE RESIDENTIAL IN PLACE AND GET IT DONE FIRST, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND REVISIT AND DO AN ASSESSMENT ON THE COMMERCIAL. MARK, BECAUSE WE DID BUY THE COMMERCIAL AS COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, AND THE RESIDENTIAL AS RESIDENTIAL. SO IT'S A, YOU KNOW, A BIG DIFFERENCE THERE IN COST. CAN YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT

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AND THAT HAS. THE ANNEXATION DISPUTE RESOLUTION ACT. THERE'S A SEPARATE STATUTE THAT DEALS WITH CROSS COUNTY ANNEXATIONS THAT APPLIES WHEN A CITY IN ONE COUNTY SEEKS TO EXPAND ITS MUNICIPAL LIMITS INTO ANOTHER COUNTY. UNDER THAT PROCEDURE, THERE ARE SPECIFIC PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS FOR NOTIFICATION. OF THE REQUEST TO THE COUNTY, AND THE COUNTY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER THAT. AND BASICALLY EITHER OBJECT OR NOT OBJECT TO IT. IF IT DOESN'T OBJECT TO THAT INCREASE OF THE MUNICIPAL LIMIT FROM ONE COUNTY INTO THE NEW COUNTY. IF IT DOESN'T OBJECT, THAT ANNEXATION JUST GOES THROUGH AS A NORMAL ANNEXATION. IF IT DOES OBJECT, THEN THAT STOPS THE ANNEXATION AT THAT POINT. FROM FROM MUNICIPALITY INTO THE COUNTY, SUBJECT TO THE RIGHT OF THE MUNICIPALITY TO BRING A CASE IN THE SUPERIOR SUPERIOR COURT OF THE COUNTY, THAT IS. THE BEST WAY TO OF THE COUNTY THAT THE TERRITORY IS BEING EXPANDED INTO. SO IN THIS EXAMPLE, IT WOULD BE IN THE TROUP COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT TO BE HEARD BY A SENIOR JUDGE NOT FROM EITHER CIRCUIT, WHERE THESE, YOU KNOW, TWO DIFFERENT COUNTIES ARE. AND THAT WOULD GO TO THE SUPERIOR COURT. THERE'S ALSO THE ANNEXATION ARBITRATION PROCESS THAT CAN COME INTO PLAY AS WELL. BUT ALL THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE BEFORE ANNEXATION COULD BE.

CONSUMMATED ACROSS COUNTY LINES. OKAY. SUBJECT TO ULTIMATELY, LIKE MOST THINGS, IT'S SUBJECT TO JUDICIAL REVIEW. MAKE SURE THAT THE THE DECISION, THE OBJECTION IS NOT ARBITRARY THAT THERE ARE LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENTAL CONCERNS AND LAND USE AND PUBLIC POLICY CONCERNS BEHIND THE OBJECTION. YEAH. DOES THAT WHERE IS THE WHERE IS THE BORDER LINES ON THIS, ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY FROM THE TROUP COUNTY TO THE CITY OF PINE MOUNTAIN TO THE RIGHT, THAT BLACK LINE, IT'S ON THE LINE. IT'S ON THE LINE. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT SEE? WE'RE DONE.

STREET IS DONE. STREET DEAD ENDS RIGHT AT, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, JAMES. RIGHT AT THE COUNTY LINE. THAT'S RIGHT. IF WE IF WE LOOK AT ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE HARRIS COUNTY Q PUBLIC MAP, YOU CAN SEE THE DONE STREET RIGHT OF WAY. SEE, YOU CAN SEE A PARCEL AT THE END OF DUNN STREET ON THE LEFT AND PARCEL AT THE END OF DUNN STREET ON THE RIGHT. AND THOSE TWO PARCELS, EXCUSE ME. THERE. THAT'S THE ONE AT THE END ON THE RIGHT. AND THAT'S THE ONE AT THE END ON THE LEFT. AND THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS ADJOINING THOSE TWO LOTS, AS WELL AS THIS LOT THAT'S ON HAMILTON ROAD. THAT'S THAT'S COMMERCIAL. AND, AND THESE OTHER PARCELS TO THE REAR, THIS, THIS PROPERTY THAT YOU SEE WOODED RIGHT HERE IS ACTUALLY IN MERIWETHER COUNTY. SO IF WE GO TO MERIWETHER COUNTY Q PUBLIC, YOU CAN SEE THE ADJOINING PROPERTY HERE. THAT ADJOINS THIS PROPERTY. THAT'S THAT'S IN QUESTION THIS EVENING.

WE ONLY MAP WHAT'S LOCATED AROUND THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT NOW ON THE COMMERCIAL TRACK. TREES. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. THE COMMERCIAL TRACK RIGHT NOW IS TOTALLY SURROUNDED BY THE RESIDENTIAL TRACK, AT LEAST ON THREE SIDES. ON THIS OTHER SIDE OF HAMILTON ROAD, YOU DO HAVE THE DOLLAR GENERAL AND OTHER. OTHER. THERE YOU GO. THAT'S WHERE I'M AT, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, THAT ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HAMILTON ROAD FROM THE PROPERTY. ALL OF THE

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IF THE REZONING IS APPROVED, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO RESTRICT ACCESS TO DUNN STREET BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A COMMERCIAL ZONE. ASSUME COMMERCIAL USE ACCESSING DUNN STREET, WHICH IS MORE OF A RESIDENTIAL ROAD. AND SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO YOU WAS THAT IF YOU REZONE THE PROPERTY, THAT YOU RESTRICT IT, RESTRICT ACCESS FROM DUNN STREET, IF IT BECOMES COMMERCIAL, CURRENTLY, THE PROPERTY THAT ADJOINS THE END OF DUNN STREET IN TROUP COUNTY IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL.

AND IF IF THERE WERE ACCESS TO DUNN STREET, IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO THE OTHER USES ON DUNN STREET RESIDENTIAL. BUT IF YOU ZONE IT TO COMMERCIAL, IT COULD PUT COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC ON DUNN STREET, WHICH WE DIDN'T REALLY THINK WAS APPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT'S MORE OF A RESIDENTIAL STREET. IF I GO TO I GO TO A GOOGLE STREET VIEW, YOU CAN SEE. JUST WHAT THAT DUNN STREET LOOKS LIKE. IT'S VERY SHORT. DEAD END STREET. THIS IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF DALLAS MILL ROAD. THIS IS DONE STREET. I CAN LOOK AT THE CHARACTER OF THIS TEAM WHEN THEY WHEN RESIDENTIAL NARROW RESIDENTIAL STREET. AND THIS IS DEAD END RIGHT HERE. DEAD ENDS INTO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. JAMES. MISS RUTH, WHEN WHEN THIS THIS CAME UP DID. I DIDN'T HEAR ANY CONDITIONS PUT ON SAID RESTRICTION. I DID SAY RESTRICTION TO ACCESS VIA DUNN STREET. THAT'S PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION. THAT WAS PART OF OKAY THAT'S WHAT I WANT.

YEAH OKAY. IF YOU REZONE IT IT WOULD BE WITH THE MAYBE RESTRICT ACCESS TO DUNN STREET.

AND JUST AS A REMINDER, IF THE BOARD WERE TO DO THAT, THEY WOULD NEED TO EXPRESSLY MAKE THAT CONDITION AS PART OF THE MOTION. EXACTLY. AND ALSO IT WOULD NEED TO BE REFLECTED ON THE ZONING MAP. YES, SIR. THAT IS A CONDITION OF THE REZONING. SO WHAT WAS THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE WATER AND SEWER JUST MENTIONED IN HERE TO? THERE IS A WATER MAIN CURRENTLY ON HAMILTON ROAD IN FRONT OF THIS PROPERTY. THAT WATER MAIN IS OWNED BY THE TOWN OF PINE MOUNTAIN. PINE MOUNTAIN WAS RECENTLY ASKED ABOUT PROVIDING WATER TO A HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA, AND THEY SAID THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY AND THEY WOULD NOT SERVE WATER TO THAT. THAT HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD SERVE 16 LOTS. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. WILL THEY TURN DOWN? THEY THEY TURNED DOWN EIGHT LOTS. THEY TURNED DOWN EIGHT LOTS ON THE ROAD RIGHT UP ABOVE THERE. I MEAN, THAT'S CORRECT. SO WHY WOULD WHY WOULD THEY 16 WHEN THEY TURN DOWN EIGHT AND, AND

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IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS OVERALL. IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS COMMERCIAL. THIS WOULD BE 10.23 ACRES. THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE COMMERCIAL. AND CURRENTLY THIS PARCEL, IT ALSO KIND OF CLEANS UP AND CLEAN UP THE PARCEL ITSELF INSTEAD OF HAVING A RESIDENTIAL JUST ON THING AND THEN NO ACCESS ON THE RIGHT. AND IT JUST REALLY CLEANS UP THOSE PARCELS. SO YES, IT WOULD BE ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE LESS COMMERCIAL IF YOU APPROVE THE REZONING AS IT'S REQUESTED. SO THE THREE ACRES THAT WERE TAKEN OUT OF COMMERCIAL THAT YOU WANT TO PUT BACK INTO RESIDENTIAL AND YOU SAY, JUST SAY YOU GO ON WITH THIS THREE ACRES TO I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THREE ACRES. THAT'S THE ONLY TRACKS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BIG TRACK. WHAT SIZE HOUSE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT PUTTING ON THERE? EACH PARCEL WOULD BE LIKE AN ACRE AND A HALF OR MORE. WHAT SIZE HOUSE? YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY SOMEWHERE AROUND 2225 MAYBE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT PART HADN'T BEEN TOTALLY DEFINED. YOU KNOW, IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU ALLOW US TO DO. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE, YOU KNOW, IN THAT RANGE, YOU KNOW.

RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM MR. SHELLEY? ALL RIGHT. IF NONE THEN YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO IS IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME FORTH. YOU KIND OF KNOW BY NOW IF YOU'LL GIVE ME, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. OKAY. PETER BROCHU, 360 HARDAGE ROAD, HAMILTON, GEORGIA. SO I ORIGINALLY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AND THEN I REZONE IT. Y'ALL APPROVED IT THROUGH REZONING THAT WHOLE PARCEL COMMERCIAL. AND I WAS GOING TO DO MY THOUGHT BACK THEN WAS TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL. YOU COME IN THIS SIDE OR YOU CAN COME THIS SIDE TO HAVE THE WHOLE BACK AREA.

MR. ANTHONY, GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, LOOKED AT IT. HE HAS A LOT MORE RESOURCES TO DO THE TWO PROPERTIES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN PINE MOUNTAIN. HE BOUGHT THOSE ALSO. HE CLOSED ON THAT, I DON'T KNOW, A FEW MONTHS AGO. HE'S ALREADY HAD A TALK WITH THE MAYOR AND THEM AND THAT PROPERTY. HE CAN BUILD ANYTHING GENERAL COMMERCIAL HE WANTS ON THAT. THE WATER. WE TALKED TO THE MAYOR ABOUT THAT TOO. GOOD FRIEND OF MINE. HE SAID THE WATER RIGHT NOW THEY'RE IN THEIR TANK PROCESS OF TRYING TO BUILD THEIR TANK OR SOMETHING. AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE THE WATER THERE. SO HE SAID, WE REALLY WOULDN'T WANT TO. DO YOU KNOW, WHICH WE THAT'S WHAT WE WENT THERE FIRST TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT THAT. BUT SO THE WATER AND THE WATER WOULD BE DRILLED WELLS AND THEN BE SEPTIC TANKS. DAVID ADAMS, THE SURVEYOR, DID DO A LAYOUT OF EVERYTHING ON IT AND PUT THE INVESTMENT IN TO GET THAT LAID OUT. IT WAS 14. IT WAS 14 HOUSES. WELL, THE COST YOU HAVE TO PUT IN THE ROAD TO MEET THE GEO. THE RIGHT FOR, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE THAT APPROVED. AND MR. ANTHONY'S TALKING ABOUT HOUSES THAT ARE ANYWHERE IN THE 350 AND UP MARK. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE HOUSE. SO IT HAS TO BE A BEAUTIFUL ROAD AND ALL THAT. SO IT MADE SENSE FINANCIALLY TO TAKE SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL THAT WAS RESIDENTIAL. I BOUGHT IT, CHANGED IT TO COMMERCIAL, BACK TO RESIDENTIAL TO OFFSET THE COST OF THAT ROAD, WHICH IS PROBABLY 150, $200,000 INVESTMENT, JUST THE ROAD. SO NOW HE CAN ADD TWO MORE HOUSES TO THAT THREE ACRES BY ADDING THAT OVER THERE. AND ALL THE LOTS ARE I THINK THE LOWEST WAS 1.5. THE THE BIGGEST ONE IS 2.7, WHICH IS ON THE BORDER. I THINK IT'S THEIR PROPERTY, I THINK OVER THERE AND THE WAY DAVID DID IT, THE ROAD GOES DOWN LIKE A THING AND THEN HE HAS IT WHERE THE HOUSE IS CLOSER TO THE ROAD, AND THEN ALL THE BACK IS A BIG BARRIER THING. SAME THING WITH THE COMMERCIAL LOT. ALL IT IS, IF HE DOES DO IT THE WAY WE DID IT WAS AND THEY'VE LAID IT OUT IS THE COMMERCIALS AT THE VERY FRONT OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT ACROSS FROM DOLLAR GENERAL ON THAT. SO THE WHOLE BACK, THE WHOLE BUFFER BACK THERE TOO. ALL THAT'S DONE

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I'LL GIVE HIM THAT TOO. SO BUT THAT'S WHAT THE WHOLE IDEA IS. IT'S NOT GOING TO WE WANT TO DISTRACT NOBODY. IT'S HIGH END, YOU KNOW. AND ANYTHING 350 IS NOT EVEN HIGH END NO MORE. BUT ANYWAYS, THAT RIGHT THERE IS, IS WHAT'S GOING TO GO. THAT'S THE WHOLE RESULT. THE TWO ACRES THAT'S CLOSEST TO THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL SIDE OVER THERE. IT ONLY MAKES SENSE TO FLIP FLOP IT BECAUSE HE OWNS THAT ALL. THAT'S GENERAL COMMERCIAL THERE. YOU KNOW, HE ALREADY OWNS THE STUFF IN PINE MOUNTAIN. THAT'S THE. AND THIS RIGHT HERE, THE TWO ACRES. LIKE MISS RUTH WAS SAYING, IT IS JUST A BROKEN PIECE. THAT AND THE WAY THEY DID IT, HE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE HE HAS TO DO THE ROAD 200. WHATEVER THE ROAD IS, IT HAS TO BE A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND DO THE ROAD DOWN THAT ONE OF YOU WOULD BE A LOT CHEAPER, INEXPENSIVE PRIDE IN DOING TWO ROADS COMING IN AND NOW THERE'LL BE A BIGGER BUFFER ON THAT SIDE. THERE WON'T BE NO ROAD BECAUSE IT WASN'T GOING TO BE A ROAD. IT WAS APPROVED RESIDENTIAL. I COULD HAVE PUT A ROAD DOWN THERE IN A HOUSE ON IT IF I WANTED TO. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL APPROVED. AND BUT THAT RIGHT THERE NOW WILL BE COMMERCIAL AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO THAT FAR BACK ANYWAY. SO YOU GUYS, I WANT TO PROVE THAT EITHER I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE UP FRONT WHERE IT IS. BUT RIGHT NOW, AS THE CHIROPRACTOR IS, IT SITS ON DUNN ROAD AND THE MAYOR SAID YOU COULD BUILD A PLAZA RIGHT HERE. WE'D LOVE TO HAVE THAT. AND THAT'S ON DUNN ROAD, HE SAID. AND THEY SAID FOR THEM THEY REALLY DIDN'T HAVE RESTRICTION. BUT I KNOW WE SAID, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE IT ANYWAYS. I ALREADY HAD A DRIVEWAY. I PAID, ALREADY HAD HER DRIVEWAY BUILT ON THAT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. SO WE ALREADY HAD DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. SO THERE'S THE DRIVEWAY ALREADY ON THAT PROPERTY TOO. IT'S FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM THAT WHOLE AREA OVER THERE. SO TO GET ONTO THE COMMERCIAL LOT. AND THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS IT'S COST MAKES SENSE FROM THE THREE ACRES, THIS TWO ACRES OVER TO THIS TO MAKE THIS THREE ACRES RESIDENTIAL, TO MAKE IT LESS CHEAPER. THE HOUSES WILL BE LESS COST FOR YOU TO BUILD OUT COST, WE ALL KNOW. SO INSTEAD OF HAVING IT COST 500,000 TO DO THIS, YOU KNOW YOU HAVE 16 HOUSES PUT OVER INSTEAD OF 14. SO DID I MAKE ANY SENSE OR DID I BABBLE? ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT. ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT? ALRIGHT. HEARING NONE. THIS IS THE FIRST READING. IT IS VOTE ELIGIBLE. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO. WE IF WE APPROVE THIS TONIGHT. AND THERE WAS ONE CONDITION. ONE RESTRICTION. WHAT WAS THE IDEA DOWN THE STREET? THE ACCESS TO DUNN STREET. ONE RESTRICTION. YEAH, YEAH. SO I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT THAT RESTRICTION WOULD BE TO RESTRICT ANY VEHICULAR ACCESS FROM DUNN STREET ONTO THE PROPERTY ZONED COMMERCIAL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YES, SIR. FOR THE RECORD, MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE RESTRICTING ANY ACCESS OF TRAFFIC INTO DUNN STREET FROM THE PROPERTY. OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? AND THIS IS JUST FOR TO TRANSFER THIS PROPERTY. ANYTHING ELSE WOULD HAVE TO BE BROUGHT.

EVERYTHING ELSE WILL BE BROUGHT. SIR. ALL SITE PLANS, EVERYTHING NEED TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO US.

I SECOND. OKAY, HAVE A MOTION AND HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

MOTION IS CARRIED. THEN THE NEXT ONE IS ON THE AGENDA IS A SPECIAL USE APPLICATION BY MUNICIPAL COMMUNICATIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO PLACE A NEW CELL TOWER ABOUT 190FT HIGH, ON 626

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THE PROPOSED USE MAY AFFECT THE HEALTH, MAY NOT AFFECT THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY. IF APPROVED, THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THE CONDITIONS MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT. THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS AND PLANNING COMMISSION DID DENY THE APPLICATION IN A 3 TO 2 VOTE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO THIS APPLICATION, DAVID DYER, THE CONSULTANT AND THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE. THIS IS THE FIRST READING VOTE ELIGIBLE. DID YOU SAY IT WAS DENIED? YES, SIR, BECAUSE IT DID NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ORDINANCE FOR THE HEIGHT OF THE CELL TOWER. SO BASICALLY THEY ASKED FOR VARIANCE FROM THE HEIGHT. RESTRICTION. OKAY. SO THAT WAS THE ONLY REASON WAS THE HEIGHT. YES. AND THE FALL ZONE AND THE WHAT FALL ZONE. OKAY. DID THEY GET ALL THAT CORRECT SIR. IS IT CORRECTED.

DID THEY CORRECT IT OR IS IT NOT CORRECT? STILL THE REQUEST FOR 197FT INSTEAD OF WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS THAT IT IS, I THINK THE MAX HEIGHT IS 125 PLUS 10% OF THE 125. SO DAVID HAD IT LISTED AT 143 FOR THE FALL ZONE AND IT WOULDN'T MEET IT MEET THAT REQUIREMENT. IF THEY SHIFT THE THE TOWER TO THE RIGHT, TO THE EAST TO. BUT DAVID IS HERE AND CAN EXPLAIN THOSE BECAUSE WE'VE HAD WE'VE HAD OTHER FOLKS TO COME IN AND DO THE SAME THING AND IT GOT DENIED. THEY WANT IT HIGHER. THEY WANTED THE TOWER HEIGHT TALLER. EVERYBODY SAY TALLER.

OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. QUESTION. YEAH. SO WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THE INTERSTATE? RIGHT. THE DISTRICTS GEORGIA DOT DID SAY THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH IT. THERE'S A LETTER IN THE PACKET. THE STATE. THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH IT. WHERE IT IS GOING TO THEY WANT TO PLACE IT. SO WHAT IS THE DISTANCE CHANGE FROM THE BASE OF THE TOWER TO THE INTERSTATE? I'LL BRING UP A DIAGRAM THAT SHOWS THAT. BEAR WITH ME FOR JUST A MOMENT.

LET'S SEE.

SO THERE THERE ARE TWO LOCATIONS THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED. THERE'S THE LOCATION THAT THE APPLICANT REQUESTED. AND THERE'S A LOCATION THAT TROUP COUNTY'S CONSULTANT, DAVID DYER, HAS RECOMMENDED. THE LOCATION THAT THE APPLICANT APPLIED FOR IS LOCATION DEPICTED IN THIS DIAGRAM ON THE SCREEN. AND I BELIEVE I'VE GOT DIMENSIONS. I KNOW I HAVE DIMENSIONS TO THE PROPERTY LINE SOMEWHERE IN THE PACKET. I'LL HAVE TO FIND THOSE. HERE WE GO.

TO INTERJECT THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR A MONOPOLE INSTEAD OF ONE WITH A WITH GUIDE WIRES, SO IT'S TWO DIFFERENT. THE TYPE OF CELL TOWER THEY'RE TRYING TO CONSTRUCT IS A MONOPOLE. IT WOULD NOT NEED GUIDE WIRES. SO THE ACCORDING TO THE APPLICATION. THE DIMENSIONS FROM THE LOCATION THEY REQUESTED TO THE PROPERTY LINE IS 100FT TO THE WEST PROPERTY LINE AND 100FT TO THE I-85 RIGHT OF WAY PROPERTY LINE. THE LOCATION THAT DAVID DYER RECOMMENDED IS APPROXIMATELY THIS LOCATION, AND THE DIMENSIONS TO THE PROPERTY.

LINES FROM THIS LOCATION ARE APPROXIMATELY 153, 150, AND 154 TO THE BUILDING THAT'S THAT'S CLOSE BY HERE. SO HOW TALL? HOW TALL WAS THE TOWER? IT IS 197FT. THAT'S WHAT IT THEY'RE REQUESTING. WEST IS 197FT. AND THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL OTHER TOWER HEIGHTS THAT HAVE BEEN

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THEY PRESENTED PROPAGATION STUDIES, THAT IS RF STUDIES, TO SHOW HOW FAR THE SIGNAL WOULD

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AND. GREATLY AMELIORATE THE POTENTIAL PROBLEM OF THE FALL ZONE. POINT IS THAT MONOPOLES FALL FROM. FROM PROBLEMS WITH THE FOUNDATION. HOW WINDS OTHER THINGS. SO? SO THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS NO SIR, I, I WILL NOT GIVE YOU A RECOMMENDATION WHICH WAY TO GO, BUT I WILL TELL YOU WHAT WHAT WE FOUND. EVERYTHING LOOKS FINE EXCEPT THE HEIGHT AND THE FALL ZONE. YOU'VE BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES. AND THAT WAS. I'M ASKING. TRUE. NOW, AS FAR AS I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR TROUP COUNTY FOR QUITE SOME PERIOD OF TIME NOW, AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE FALL ZONE HAS NEVER BEEN VIOLATED BEFORE. WE TALKED WITH PLANNING AND ZONING ABOUT SETTING A PRECEDENT, AND CERTAINLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT DOES TAKE PLACE. YOU CAN YOU CAN CERTAINLY SET A PRECEDENT. THE ONLY ISSUE THERE IS NEXT TIME AROUND, IF SOMEBODY WANTS ONE THAT TALL, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED ONE HERE. SO I THINK OUR I THINK OUR REVIEW I KNOW OUR REVIEW HAS BEEN FAIR AND IT'S CONSIDERED ALL POSSIBLE. MODIFICATIONS HEIGHT WISE, LOCATION WISE, TO TRY TO ASSIST THE APPLICANT IN GETTING THE HEIGHT THEY NEED AND THE. IN THE SIGNAL STRENGTH THEY NEED.

BUT IT ALWAYS COMES BACK TO THE FALL ZONE IN THAT LOCATION. IT'S IT'S IT'S VIOLATES THE ORDINANCE. THAT'S IT'S MISS RUTH SAID. THAT'S WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND I'M SORRY I COULDN'T GIVE YOU A RECOMMENDATION. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S FINE. Y'ALL WOULD BE GETTING ME OUT OF JAIL. THEY'D BE GETTING ME OUT OF JAIL. OKAY, DAVID. THANK YOU.

WHAT WAS THE HEIGHT OF THE THE THE ONE BEING DEMOLISHED WAS WAS THE 300FT, I BELIEVE. IS THAT CORRECT? 300FT. THE TOWER. YEAH. YEAH. AND IT WAS IF YOU LOOK ACROSS HERE WHERE THE ARROW IS POINTED, THAT'S WHERE THE TOWER IS. AND IT'S ABOUT 2/10 OF A MILE TO THE NORTH WEST. I GUESS THAT WOULD BE. WHEN WAS THAT TOWER PUT IN? A LONG TIME AGO. IT HAD TO HAVE BEEN ORDINANCE CHANGED. I HAVE WORKED ON THAT TOWER PREVIOUSLY, AND IT'S BEEN THERE FOR QUITE SOME PERIOD OF TIME. BUT IT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE AGE. THEY, IT'S JUST A HIGHER AND BETTER USE FOR THE LAND. I'M ASSUMING IT'S, IT'S WHY IT'S COMING DOWN. SO THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY HAS ANOTHER, ANOTHER THING THAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY. DAVID, CAN CAN YOU JUST GIVE THE BOARD A JUST A QUICK REMINDER OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE TIMELINE FOR APPROVAL AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR APPROVAL IN WRITING? YES. WELL, THE ATTORNEY SPEAKING ABOUT IS WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE SHOT CLOCK. THE WAY ALL OF THAT WORKS IS ON THE NEW TOWER. WE HAVE 30 DAYS. WE BEING THE COUNTY HAS 30 DAYS TO LET THE APPLICANT KNOW IF

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WELL WE SENT WE SENT OUR, OUR REVIEW IN ON JULY THE 17TH. OKAY. SO THE ONLY THING THAT THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE ON THE TIMELINE IS THE ENTIRE PERIOD OF TIME WHILE WE'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING BACK AND FORTH, THAT TIME IS TOLD. THAT IS, IT DOESN'T COUNT AGAINST THE 150 DAYS. SO. LET ME BE CLEAR. THE APPLICATION DATE WE HAVE IS 821, 2025. SO THAT'S WHEN THE CLOCK STARTS. THAT'S WHEN THE CLOCK STARTS. STARTS OKAY. AND BETWEEN THAT TIME, JULY THE 17TH TO TILL THE AUGUST DATE IS WHEN WE WERE RECEIVING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AS REQUIRED. AND ANY, ANY OTHER INFORMATION THAT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REQUIRED COULD BE HANDLED VIA A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL, SO THAT THAT INFORMATION WOULD BE PROVIDED PRIOR TO A PERMIT BEING ISSUED. SO, ROUGHLY SPEAKING, WE SPENT ABOUT 70 OF THE 150 DAYS.

THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT. WE'RE ABOUT HALFWAY POINT HALFWAY. RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, JAMES? AT 224, YOU JUST HAD UP THERE WAS THAT FROM THEIR POINT WHERE THEY WANTED TO PUT IT AT? NO, THAT WAS FROM THE LOCATION THAT MR. DYER LOOKED AT. OKAY. AND AGAIN, ON THAT, WE WERE SIMPLY SEEKING A WAY TO TRY TO MAKE IT WORK. BUT THE HEIGHT IS STILL THE PROBLEM. SO, SO THAT THAT WAS YOUR RECOMMENDATION OR YOUR POINT? I YEAH. IT WAS MY POINT, YES. SO WHAT WAS IT FROM? WHAT WAS THAT DISTANCE FROM THERE. WHAT THEY WANTED TO PUT IT. WELL THEY WERE 100FT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. YEAH. BUT I KNOW THAT THAT LINE I TOLD YOU I MEASURED WAS A THIS 223 APPROXIMATELY WAS TO THE EDGE OF THE TRAVEL LANE OF THE EXIT RAMP. THE SOUTHBOUND EXIT RAMP.

95. AND IF IF WE WERE TO MEASURE AGAIN FROM THE EDGE OF THAT TRAVEL LANE 100FT INTO THE PROPERTY, WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE TO THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE IS 63. AND SO IF YOU WANT ANOTHER HUNDRED IT WOULD BE 163. THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT. YEAH. THE ORIGINAL LOCATION TO THE EDGE OF THE TRAVEL LANE, APPROXIMATELY. SO 195 FOOT TOWER WOULD HIT THAT IN THAT LOCATION IF IT FELL, IF IT BROKE AT THE BASE AND FELL FROM THE THAT'S WHAT HE'S SAYING. HE SAID THAT HE FINDS HE FINDS WHERE THEY BREAK IT. THE THE FOOTINGS ARE BASE. YEAH. IN FAIRNESS, IF YOU SHRINK THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. SURE. YEAH. OKAY. THE ORIGINAL POINT IS OKAY. WHAT ABOUT THERE. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING, RIGHT. BUT YOU SAID THE BREAK POINT ON THE TOWER IS 135. IS THAT CORRECT? 173 IS THE CORRECT? YES. THEY COULD.

THEY'LL SPEAK TO THAT. OKAY. YEAH. HE'S SAYING ABOUT 170FT, 170FT. THEY DO NOT RECOGNIZE I KNOW THEY DON'T BREAK IT BASE BUT THE FOUNDATION WILL FAIL. YOU WANT YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. COME UP TO THE MIC. OKAY. YEAH, YEAH. ONE THING THAT MAY HELP THAT I'M NOT SURE THAT THE COUNTY HASN'T FOUND, IF I MAY. YES, SIR. OKAY. THIS IS A. TO

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THERE'S A POSSIBLE POSSIBILITY WE'LL HIT A VOLCANO WHEN WE'RE DRILLING THE THE THE FOUNDATION.

IT'S THIS. IT'S. AND IF IF G DOT HAS NO ISSUE WITH IT BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THE TOP OF THE TOWER, IF YOU TOOK A DIRECT HIT FROM A KILLER TORNADO, IT WOULD HINGE. BUT GUESS WHAT? IN PUERTO RICO, UP IN THE NORTHEAST OR IN SUPERSTORM SANDY, IN ALL, ALL AROUND THESE THESE MAJOR STORMS UP THROUGH, YOU KNOW, KATRINA, GUESS HOW MANY TOWERS FAILED? ZERO. NONE. THEY DON'T FAIL. THE THE ONLY FAILURES I'VE EVER HEARD OF ARE GUYED TOWERS.

MONOPOLES WILL NOT FAIL. IT'S IT'S IT'S SCIENCE. AND SO IF PEOPLE LIKE NORFOLK SOUTHERN, GDOT, PEOPLE AREN'T FEARFUL AND WE BUILD THEM IN THE MIDDLE OF CITIES. WE JUST FINISHED ONE IN DOWNTOWN NASHVILLE. 25 IS THE SAME BREAK POINT, 25FT. IT'S RIGHT AT AN INTERSECTION. YOU COULDN'T BUILD THEM IN URBAN CENTERS IF IF THE BREAK POINT, YOU KNOW, IF THE IF THE THE MATH AND THE SCIENCE DIDN'T BACK IT UP. SO I YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HE'S LOOKING OUT FOR YOUR BEST INTERESTS. IT'S IT'S HE'S NOT HE'S NOT FOLLOWING THE SCIENCE IS ALL I'M SAYING. BUT IT'S IT'S THIS THIS IS SOMETHING THEY'RE TAKING DOWN A 250 FOOT TOWER. LUCKILY, WE FOUND A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S HIGH ENOUGH TO WHERE WE COULD DO SOMETHING BELOW 200FT. SO THE TOWER DOES NOT HAVE TO BE LIT. THERE'S ZERO CHANCE IT'S GOING TO AFFECT ANY NEIGHBOR. THE HIGHWAY. NOT NOT EVEN THE ACCESS ROAD. IT COULDN'T. IT WOULD. IT WOULD. IF IT FAILED, IT WOULD FAIL WITHIN THE COMPOUND. SO IT'S IT'S KIND OF A WIN WIN. ONCE THAT TOWER IS DOWN ACROSS THE HIGHWAY, THAT WHOLE SECTION OF THE HIGHWAY IS GOING TO LOSE SERVICE. AND WE WERE GIVEN THIS ASSIGNMENT BY AT&T. AND IT IS A RUSH JOB. AND WE HAVE WE HAVE DILIGENTLY WORKED WITH Y'ALL TO COVER EVERY, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE ISSUE QUESTION. YOU ALL HAD DID A BALLOON TEST WITH A TEN FOOT BALLOON, WHICH I'D NEVER HEARD OF. WE HAD TO GET IT FROM CHINA. WE'VE WE'VE JUMPED THROUGH EVERY CONCEIVABLE HOOP BECAUSE THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US. BUT IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND ON THE

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IT WOULD IT WOULD TAKE A HECK OF A STORM AND A DIRECT HIT FROM A TORNADO. THIS IS THE LEAST OF YOUR WORRIES, RIGHT? THIS THE ONE THING THAT IS GOING TO BE STANDING AFTER THAT TORNADO IS THIS TOWER. SO IT'S IT'S THIS IS ALL, YOU KNOW, IT'S THIS IS BELT AND SUSPENDERS. IT'S THIS THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. AND WE, YOU KNOW, THE FOUNDATION IS THE LAST PLACE IT'S GOING TO FAIL. IF IT TOOK A DIRECT HIT FROM A TORNADO, IT MIGHT LOSE SOME EQUIPMENT. WE'VE HAD. WE'VE HAD THE WORST I'VE EVER HAD IS WHEN WE BUILT A MONO POND AND WE'VE LOST, YOU KNOW, SOME NEEDLES OFF BRANCHES. I MEAN, THESE THESE THINGS ARE BUILT TO LAST.

AND AND THIS IS A VERY SHORT TOWER. THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS TYPICALLY WE'RE IN AREAS LIKE THIS. WE'RE BUILDING 300, 400FT. CLAY, OUR CONSULTANT WAS WITH SOUTHERN LAKE FOR MANY YEARS, RAN SOUTHERN LINK. AND WE BUILT DOZENS AND DOZENS OF TOWERS FOR THEM. AND THE AVERAGE TOWER HEIGHT WAS 350FT. AND SO THIS THIS IS A VERY SMALL TOWER. THIS IS ACTUALLY WE, YOU KNOW, IN VERY IN DENSE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, WE'RE DOING TOWERS THIS HEIGHT. SO WITH THESE TOWER WAS BUILT NEXT TO AN INTERSTATE. I'VE BUILT TONS OF THESE TOWERS NEXT TO INTERSTATE 300FT. 200FT. OKAY. I'VE GOT TWO RIGHT ON 285 IN ATLANTA. RIGHT, RIGHT. THAT ARE 200FT THAT ARE RIGHT NEXT TO INTERSTATE. AND LIKE I SAID, I'M TELLING YOU, THESE NORFOLK SOUTHERN GUYS ARE NOT EASY TO DEAL WITH. AND I GOT IN FRONT OF THE BOARD AND I SAID, HERE'S THE SCIENCE. HERE'S HERE'S THE THE ENGINEERING THAT GOES BEHIND THESE THINGS. THEY SAID, WELL, IN THAT COUNTY, DID IT COMPLY WITH THE ORDINANCE? NO, NO. WE WE WE ALWAYS WE ALWAYS GET VIRTUALLY EVERY TIME WE GO INTO A ZONING SITUATION, WE ASK FOR A VARIANCE OR A SLOP OR SOMETHING. IT'S IT'S VERY RARE THAT BUT MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A. WE GO INTO PLACES LIKE COLUMBUS, GEORGIA, THEY HAD AN ANTIQUATED ZONING ORDINANCE. WE REWROTE IT. WE DO THAT VERY, VERY OFTEN. AND I KNOW Y'ALL DON'T SEE A LOT OF TOWER APPLICATIONS. AND SO WHEN PEOPLE WHEN WE COME IN AND THEY HAVEN'T SEEN AN APPLICATION IN A WHILE, SOMETIMES THEY'LL SAY, IS OUR ORDINANCE OUT OF WHACK? IN FACT, WE JUST HAD A HEARING TONIGHT IN BOSSIER CITY, LOUISIANA, AND WE REWROTE THEIR TOWER ORDINANCE. SO IT'S A YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU ALL DO EVERY DAY. IT'S SOMETHING WE DO EVERY DAY. WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THE SPOT WHERE YOU WANT TO PUT IT VERSUS THE RECOMMENDATION SPOT? I HAVE NO IDEA. IT'S. WHY CAN'T YOU MOVE IT BACK THAT FAR? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE'VE DONE ALL OF OUR APPROVALS STATE, LOCAL AND FEDERAL AT OUR SITE, THE SPOT WHERE HE WANTS US TO MOVE IT THERE. THERE'S SOME THERE'S A WELL, AN ACTIVE WELL AND SOME THINGS LIKE THAT. THE SPOT WE HAVE IS REALLY IDEAL. YOU WANT TO BE UP ON THE HIGHWAY. I MEAN, IT'S WE'RE TALKING 75FT. WELL, WELL LIKE I SAID, FIRST OF ALL, WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH NINE MONTHS OF APPROVALS. AND YOU KNOW, THIS WAS WE YOU KNOW, WE APPLIED FOR THIS, YOU KNOW, MANY, MANY MONTHS AGO AND STARTED THE PROCESS. AND THIS WAS BROUGHT UP FOR THE FIRST TIME AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING. WELL, WHAT'S THE DIAMETER OF THAT FOOTING? THE BASE OF THE TOWER. OH, GOD. WHAT IS IT, 50. OH, THAT. OH, WELL, THAT THE ACTUAL CONCRETE.

YEAH, YEAH. WELL IT'S IT'S IT'S IT DEPENDS. IT'S THE, THE THE BASE OF THE TOWER IS ABOUT SIX FEET, SIX FEET IN DIAMETER. CAN I, CAN I ASK YOU THIS. DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER PART. YEAH. THE CONCRETE I MEAN, THE CONCRETE SIX FEET IN DIAMETER. WELL SEE THE, THE CONCRETE IS, IS 30FT

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AND I SAID, WELL, SHOOT, WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE TO LIGHT THIS TOWER BECAUSE WE'RE REPLACING A 250 FOOT TOWER AND ANYTHING OVER 200FT HAS TO BE LIT. WE COME TO FIND, BECAUSE IT'S JUST THE ELEVATION OF PROPERTY AND BECAUSE OF WHERE IT IT BEND, WHERE THE BEND IN THE HIGHWAY IS, WILL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GET BETTER COVERAGE WITH 197FT. AND ONE OTHER BENEFIT OF THIS TOWER IS THAT Y'ALL NEED TOWER SPACE FOR YOUR EMS FACILITIES. AND WE WERE APPROACHED BY THAT. AND THERE'S A LETTER THAT I APPROVED IN THE PACKAGE WHERE WE'RE GIVING YOU THE TOP OF THE TOWER, IF YOU WILL, AND WHEN WHEN MY SON TALKED TO YOUR COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER, HE SAID, WHAT HEIGHT DO YOU NEED? HE SAID, THE TALLER, THE BETTER. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, GOES BACK TO THE SCIENCE. YOU AT SOME POINT YOU NEED, YOU KNOW, IN AN AREA LIKE THIS WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, COVER A FIVE FOOT STRETCH OF HIGHWAY. YOU CAN'T DO 125, 135FT. AND, YOU KNOW, AND WE BUILT WE BUILT TOWERS AND SOME FLAT AREAS, KENTUCKY, SOMEPLACE LIKE THAT. I MENTIONED TO YOU, YOU KNOW, LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY, WELL, IT'S FLAT. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TREES. IT'S NOT GEORGIA. WE'VE GOT ALL THESE BEAUTIFUL PINE TREES. AND THOSE PINE NEEDLES DEFLECT THE SIGNAL LIKE NOTHING. SO YOU REALLY HAVE TO BE ABOVE THE TREES. WE NEED TO BUILD THIS TOWER SO IT'LL ACCOMMODATE AT LEAST THREE CARRIERS PLUS YOUR EQUIPMENT. SO IF YOUR TOWER'S NOT BUILT OR IF THERE'S NOT A TOWER REPLACED THERE, WOULD THIS ELIMINATE COVERAGE FOR AT&T? IT'S GOING TO LEAVE A HUGE DEAD SPOT. AND AND ONE THING THAT PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND IS SAY, WELL THAT'S AN INCONVENIENCE. WELL, ON A HIGHWAY, A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT, IF SOMEONE IS ABLE TO GET A911 CALL OUT, WHICH THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T, BUT LET'S SAY THEY COULD GUESS WHAT NEEDS A CELL SIGNAL, YOUR GPS. AND THIS HAS HAPPENED ALL OVER JORDAN, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE TREES, THE HILLS AND WHATEVER WHERE, YOU KNOW, AN ACCIDENT HAPPENS IN ALPHARETTA, GEORGIA. AND THIS IS A TRUE REAL LIFE EXAMPLE. THEY THE AMBULANCE WAS DIRECTED TO CHEROKEE COUNTY, TO THE MIDDLE OF A LAKE, AND A GUY DIED OF A HEART ATTACK ON THE STREET IN ALPHARETTA BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ADEQUATE CELL COVERAGE TO GET AN ACCURATE GPS READING. SO IT'S THIS IS MORE THAN JUST CONVENIENCE. THIS THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS LIFE AND DEATH IN SOME, SOME CASES. YOU OKAY? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT. YOU'RE WELCOME TO. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS CLAY BROGDON. I'M AN INDEPENDENT TELECOMMUNICATIONS CONSULTANT AND A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER WITH OVER 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE MANAGING CELL SITE DEVELOPMENT FOR SOUTHERN LINK WIRELESS BEFORE RETIRING IN 2019. I'VE BEEN ENGAGED BY MUNICIPAL COMMUNICATIONS ON BEHALF OF AT&T TO REPRESENT THEM IN ALL ZONING AND PERMITTING MATTERS RELATED TO SECURING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A 197 FOOT TALL COMMUNICATIONS MONOPOLE. THIS NEW MONOPOLE IS NEEDED TO REPLACE AN EXISTING 300 FOOT TALL GUYED TOWER THAT IS SCHEDULED TO BE DECOMMISSIONED EARLY NEXT YEAR. AT&T CURRENTLY OPERATES A CELL SITE ON THE 300 FOOT TALL GUYED TOWER LOCATED ADJACENT TO I-85 NORTH, VERY NEAR THE KIA PLANT EXIT. THE OWNER OF THE TOWER, AMERICAN

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THEY STATE THAT THESE MONOPOLES ARE DESIGNED WITH LARGE FACTORS OF SAFETY NOT TO FAIL, BUT IN THE EVENT OF AN UNUSUAL WEATHER CATASTROPHE, THIS MONOPOLE IS DESIGNED TO BUCKLE AT THE LOCATION OF HIGHEST STRESS IN THE MONOPOLE SHAFT AND LEAN OVER AND REMAIN IN A PERMANENTLY DEFORMED CONDITION. THIS WOULD EFFECTIVELY RESULT IN A 25 FOOT FALL ZONE RADIUS AT GROUND LEVEL. IN ADDITION, THE CLOSEST EXISTING STRUCTURE TO THE NEW MONOPOLE IS OVER 250FT AWAY, WHICH IS MORE THAN THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER PLUS 10%. IN ADDITION, WE HAVE CONTACTED AND NOTIFIED BOTH OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS AND NEITHER OF THEM ARE OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT. WE BELIEVE OUR APPLICATION PROVIDES SUBSTANTIAL DOCUMENTATION JUSTIFYING BOTH WAIVER REQUESTS IN ORDER TO HELP JUSTIFY AND APPROVE OUR REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THIS PROJECT, I'D LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING. FIRST, WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY AND COOPERATIVELY WITH THE COUNTY STAFF AND THE COUNTY'S CONSULTANT THROUGHOUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS, AND HAVE PROVIDED ALL REQUESTED INFORMATION. SECOND, ALL NEARBY PROPERTY OWNERS WERE NOTIFIED DURING THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND WE ARE NOT AWARE OF ANY OPPOSITION. THIRD, A BALLOON TEST WAS CONDUCTED TO SIMULATE THE VISUAL IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED 197 FOOT TALL MONOPOLE. THE PUBLIC WAS NOTIFIED IN ADVANCE AND INVITED TO OBSERVE. BASED ON THIS TEST, WE VERIFIED PHOTO SIMULATIONS FROM KEY LOCATIONS AND DETERMINED THAT THE MONOPOLE WILL NOT BE VISIBLE FROM ANY NEARBY RESIDENCES. FOURTH, WE HAVE RECEIVED A DETERMINATION OF NO HAZARD FROM THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, THE AGENCY RESPONSIBLE FOR CONTROLLING AND REGULATING ALL

[01:30:05]

WE FOUND IT WAS COMMUNICATED TO US THAT THE COUNTY'S EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT COVERAGE IN THAT AREA IS NOT GOOD. AND WOULD WOULD WE CONSIDER ALLOWING THE COUNTY TO CO-LOCATE THEIR EQUIPMENT ONTO OUR TOWER? THE ANSWER TO THAT WAS YES, WE WILL. WE'LL MAKE IT FREE OF CHARGE. THERE'LL BE NO COST. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF STIPULATIONS THAT WE NEED TO MEET SO THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE AT&T, OTHERS, THE COUNTY AND WHOEVER. BUT THAT'S BEEN GIVEN IN WRITING TO MR. MOSLEY. DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT? OKAY, SO I'M DONE. I'LL BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. BECAUSE THIS IS THIS IS REALLY CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR US. I UNDERSTAND IT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU AND IT'S ALSO TO ME, IMPORTANT TO MY SEAT. BUT. I STILL WE'RE JUST HERE JUST FOR THE FIRST TIME. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT IT'S COME TO MY SEAT. AND I DON'T KNOW ALL THIS INFORMATION. YES. AND IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT'S COME UP TONIGHT ON THIS TOWER. IT'S NOT THAT I'M AGAINST THE TOWER. IT'S JUST THAT I WANT TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF TROUP COUNTY AND HAVE UNDERSTANDING. THIS IS JUST MY SITTING IN MY SEAT. IT'S THE BUILDING IS OWNING. TURNED IT DOWN AT A32 VOTE. DENIAL. THEN I'D LIKE TO HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF WHY THEY DENIED IT, YOU KNOW, AND AND THAT'S JUST WHERE I AM WITH IT. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID. AND I COMPREHEND BECAUSE WE PASSED HIGHWAYS BEFORE, BUT WE BUT I TO ME, IT'S JUST A LOT OF INFORMATION HERE TONIGHT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ABSORB AND GET SOME MORE ANSWERS. AND IT'S TWO WEEKS GONE. I DON'T THINK TWO WEEKS WILL HURT ANYBODY WHEN IT COMES BACK UP AFTER ANOTHER DISCUSSION. THAT'S JUST THAT'S JUST MY OPINION NOW. THAT'S JUST WHAT I'M SITTING. JAMES, THE THE 300 FOOT EXISTING TOWER.

EXACTLY WHERE IS IT LOCATED? SURE. SO IF I, I GO BACK TO GOOGLE MAPS, THE THE PROPOSED

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IS THERE ANYTHING IN THAT ZONE? IS THERE ANY ANY STRUCTURE OR ANYTHING IN THAT ZONE NOW? DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW. LET ME SEE WHAT I CAN FIND. Q PUBLIC HAS A BUILDING LAYER WE CAN TURN ON TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY BUILDINGS. PULL THAT BACK TO MY DESKTOP. JUST A MOMENT. TURN ON THE BUILDING LAYER. I'D BE EASIER IF I TURN OFF THE AERIALS. THAT'S THE TOWER AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WITHIN 300 FOOT FALL ZONE OF THE TOWER. LET ME ASK. MAYBE THAT'S NOT TOWER. IS THAT RIGHT? IN IN AN EARLIER VISUAL THERE WAS IN THE FALL ZONE, THERE WAS A STRUCTURE I THOUGHT, I REMEMBER HEARING, IS THAT A BARN OR IS THAT A PERSONAL RESIDENCE ONE.

AND MY SECOND PART OF THAT QUESTION IS YOU SAID YOU'VE TALKED TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THAT AREA. WAS WAS THAT PERSON THAT OWNED THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY? WERE THEY JUST WAS IT TALKED TO WITH FOR THEM? YEAH. THE BUILDING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS AN OUTBUILDING, A BARN I THINK THE. YEAH. ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. OKAY. AND IT'S ON THE ACTUAL PROPERTY WHERE WE WANT TO BUILD THIS MONOPOLE. THEY WOULD BE OUR LANDLORDS IF YOU WILL. OKAY. SO THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT WOULD LEASE YOU THE SPACE OWNS THAT STRUCTURE. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. THAT STRUCTURE IS 250FT AWAY AT THE CLOSEST POINT. AND OUR MONOPOLE WOULD BE 197FT TALL. SO IF IT WERE TO FALL OVER LIKE A TREE AND WE HAVE DISAGREEMENT ABOUT THAT OR NOT, IT STILL WOULD NOT ENCROACH ON THAT BUILDING THAT THAT OUTBUILDING THAT'S THERE. SO WE'RE STILL CLOSER TO THE INTERSTATE THEN AND THAT BUILDING. WHAT I'M GETTING AT IF IF IT FELL TOWARDS THE INTERSTATE, I THINK WE'VE DETERMINED THAT WE'VE BEEN OVER THIS A LOT. I THINK WE'VE DETERMINED IT WILL JUST GET TO THE EXIT RAMP. IT WILL NOT GO ACROSS INTO THE TRAVEL LANES, BUT IT WILL GO TO THE EXIT RAMP, EXIT RAMP LANES. YES. AND THE DOT HAS DOT HAS DOT HAS SAID, WE SEE THAT WE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE PUTTING THERE. WE WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT. AND THAT WRITING WAS GIVEN AS PART OF OUR APPLICATION, IF YOU DON'T MIND. YES, SIR. YES. SO WE JUST LOOKED AT THE DRAWINGS, THE BASE OF THE TOWER IS OKAY. IT'S NINE FEET WIDE, SO THE FOUNDATION IS 30FT DEEP AND NINE FEET IN DIAMETER. THIS IS NOT. YEAH. IT'S. AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT TOWERS COMING DOWN. INVARIABLY IT'S A IT'S A GUYED TOWER. AND SO EVERY TOWER I'VE EVER BUILT IN INNER CITY URBAN AREA ALONG RAILROAD RIGHT OF WAY HAS ALWAYS BEEN A MONOPOLE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. SO HEARING NONE I'LL GIVE ONE FINAL OPPORTUNITY I THINK I DID A WHILE AGO. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT? ALRIGHT. HEARING NONE. THIS IS THE FIRST READING. IT IS VOTE ELIGIBLE SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. ALRIGHT. IF THERE'S NO MOTION, THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONTINUE THIS FOR TWO WEEKS AND GIVE TIME TO STUDY IT. ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALRIGHT. THE MOTION WAS APPROVED TO GIVE US TWO MORE WEEKS TO STUDY THE MATTER. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. LAST ONE IS ASKING THE COMMISSIONERS TO

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ALRIGHT. HEARING NONE, I'LL GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME FORTH. ALRIGHT. HEARING NONE, THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE 2025 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT EXPENDITURES, ANNUAL UPDATE AND RESOLUTION. DO I HAVE A MOTION SO MOVED, MR. CHAIR? ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. MOTION IS CARRIED. THANK YOU, MISS RUTH.

PLEASE DO NOT COME BACK BEFORE US AGAIN WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. ALRIGHT, MISS.

OKAY, ALRIGHT. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT WE EXIT PUBLIC HEARING. GO BACK INTO REGULAR MEETING AND ADJOURN. SO MOVED. DO I HAVE A SECOND? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. MOTION

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.