Oct 09, 2025 Board of Zoning Appeals and Planning Commission

[II. Announcements]

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THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS AND PLANNING COMMISSION ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS MORNING. THE NEXT BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS COMMISSION IS ON NOVEMBER 13TH AT 10 A.M. THE APPLICATIONS BEING HEARD TODAY, THE SPECIAL USE AND THE REZONING WILL GO BEFORE THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS ON NOVEMBER 4TH AT 5 P.M. MEETING, THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS APPROVED THE MANUFACTURED HOME THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY BEN TURNER, THE SPECIAL USE FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY RUBEN HAIRSTON, AND THE REZONING THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY RANDALL COTTON. THE APPROVED IT ON OCTOBER 7TH AT 5 P.M. MEETING. THAT IS ALL. ALRIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SEPARATE THE AGENDA AND THE MINUTES, SO WE'LL NEED TO HEAR A MOTION TO

[III. Approve the Final Agenda]

[IV.1. Board of Zoning Appeals & Planning Commission - Regular Meeting - Sep 11, 2025 10:00 AM]

SO, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, ONE CHANGE TO THE MINUTES UNDER SECTION B FOR THE VARIANCE HAS ME LISTED AS VOTED FOR. I VOTED AGAINST AND I THINK MR. CAMERON VOTED FOR IT. SO THAT WAS JUST A CORRECTION TO THE MINUTES. OKAY. SO MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS AMENDED. DO I HEAR A MOTION. SO MOVED. MOTION'S MADE AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION CARRIES.

[V.A.1. Rezoning - Anthony Shelly - Hamilton Rd (APN 0113 000010, 0113 000010A) 1st Reading - Vote Eligible]

THIRDED. AND NOW WE NEED A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. WE ARE NOW IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL RIGHT. THE FIRST APPLICATION IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS A REZONING REQUEST BY ANTHONY SHELLEY AT HAMILTON ROAD, AND IS THE FIRST READING AND IT IS VOTE ELIGIBLE. THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THE REZONING OF AN APPROXIMATELY 2.24 ACRE PORTION OF A 29.34 ACRE PARCEL FROM SUBURBAN MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO LIMITED COMMERCIAL, AND THE REZONING OF A THREE ACRE PORTION OF AN 11 ACRE PARCEL FROM LIMITED COMMERCIAL TO SUBURBAN MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND. ALL RIGHT. AND THIS IS A REQUEST FOR REZONING.

THE APPLICANT IS ANTHONY SHELLEY. THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY IS ON HAMILTON ROAD.

IT IS APPROXIMATELY 2.24 ACRES AND THREE ACRES THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR REZONING. THE ZONING DISTRICT IS CURRENTLY OF THE PARCELS IS CURRENTLY SR AND LC. TO THE NORTH IS A SUBURBAN MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, TO THE EAST IS A RESIDENTIAL, AND PINE MOUNTAIN TO THE SOUTH IS LIMITED. COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY, COMMERCIAL AND SUBURBAN MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AND TO THE WEST IS SUBURBAN MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. SO THE THE CURRENT USE OF THE PROPERTIES IS COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, AND THE PROPOSED USE IS THE SAME. THE CHARACTER AREA IS URBAN.

THE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION. THE NOTICE IN THE PAPER WAS PLACED ON 920, 2025, AND THE SIGN WAS POSTED ON NINE, 22, 2025, AND THE DATE OF THE SCHEDULED HEARINGS ARE TODAY. THE FIRST READING WOULD BE 11 FOUR, 2025, AND THE SECOND READING WOULD BE, IF NECESSARY, WOULD BE 11, 18, 20, 25. PUBLIC COMMENT. WE DID RECEIVE TWO CALLS AFTER THE STAFF REPORT WENT OUT. SO ONE AND THEN A SECOND. THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSIDERATIONS ARE NONE. STAFF REPORT OR STAFF REVIEW. THE REQUEST. THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THE REZONING OF AN APPROXIMATELY 2.24 ACRE PORTION OF A PARCEL FROM SUBURBAN, MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO LIMITED COMMERCIAL AND A THREE ACRE PORTION OF PARCEL FROM LIMITED COMMERCIAL TO SUBURBAN MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THE APPLICANT WILL SUBMIT A PLAT IF THE REZONING APPLICATION IS APPROVED, THE REZONING PORTIONS WILL BE COMBINED WITH A LARGER PARCEL ZONED THE SAME.

STANDARDS GOVERNING THE EXERCISE OF ZONING POWER, AND REVIEW THE APPLICATION OF A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP, THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS, THE BOARD OF ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION, AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR SHALL CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING STANDARDS FOR RECOMMENDATIONS AND DECISIONS, AS APPLICABLE. WHETHER A PROPOSED REZONING WILL PERMIT A USE THAT IS SUITABLE IN VIEW OF THE USE AND DEVELOPMENT OF ADJACENT NEARBY PROPERTY. THE PROPOSED USE OF THIS PROPERTY WILL REMAIN SUITABLE FOR THE

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OKAY. WOULD THE APPLICANT PLEASE COME UP, SIR? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

SHELLEY ANTHONY, 180 BAYBERRY RUN, FAYETTEVILLE, GEORGIA. AND YOU'RE THE APPLICANT AND OWNER OF THE LAND? YES, SIR. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. MY QUESTION IS THE THE STAFF REPORT HERE SAYS THERE IS NOT CURRENT INTENT TO SERVE THE RESULTING PARCEL WITH PUBLIC WATER OR SEWAGE SERVICE.

THAT THAT'S COMING FROM TROUP COUNTY, RIGHT? WELL, THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL ARE SAYING, RIGHT? OKAY. ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE A RESTAURANT THERE OR WHAT? WHAT IS YOUR PLAN AS FAR AS HAVING

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OKAY. NO PLANS TO ANNEX INTO PINE MOUNTAIN FOR WATER AND SEWER? NO, MA'AM. NOT AT THIS POINT. OKAY. BECAUSE PINE MOUNTAIN HAS NO WATER. AS FAR AS I KNOW, THAT WAS MY LAST CONVERSATION. THERE IS A WATER MAIN THAT EXTENDS UP HAMILTON ROAD ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY.

BUT I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS IN THE PAST WITH CITY OF PINE MOUNTAIN ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY OF WATER FOR. FOR TAPS ALONG THAT MAIN. AND THEY'VE INDICATED SOME OF THOSE REQUESTS, INCLUDING ON THIS PROPERTY UNDER A PREVIOUS PROPOSAL, THAT THEY WOULD NOT SERVE WATER TO THE PROPERTY, EVEN THOUGH THE WATER MAIN IS THERE, THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR CAPACITY AND THAT THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW A TAP ON THAT WATER MAIN AT THAT TIME.

NOW, WHETHER OR NOT THAT COULD CHANGE IN THE FUTURE, WE DON'T KNOW. OR AND IT MAY DEPEND ON THE SPECIFIC USE WHEN THE TIME COMES, IF IT'S ONE HOUSE OR 16 HOUSES OR A RESTAURANT OR WHAT IT IS, THEN THEY WOULD. I GUESS THAT WOULD REALLY BE UP TO THE THE WATER UTILITY OWNER TO DECIDE WHETHER THEY WOULD ALLOW THAT OR NOT, BUT LAST WE HEARD THEY WERE NOT ALLOWING ANY TAPS AT THIS THE LAST THE LAST TIME. A FEW YEARS BACK, THIS SAME PARCEL CAME UP AND THEY WERE GOING TO DO LOW INCOME HOUSING, APARTMENT TYPE COMPLEXES. AND THERE WAS A QUESTION, BIG QUESTION ABOUT THE WATER IN THE SEWER THERE. AND THEY WITHDREW THE APPLICATION. RIGHT. SO OKAY, SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THOUGH, THE REZONING, IN ESSENCE TAKES THE CURRENT COMMERCIAL PART AND SHIFTS IT TO THE EAST. AND SO YOU'RE SAYING YOUR PLAN AS OF RIGHT NOW IS TO NOT DEVELOP THE, THE, THE COMMERCIAL, BUT BY SHIFTING THE, THE COMMERCIAL TO THE EAST, YOU THEN PLAN ON DEVELOPING THE, THE RESIDENTIAL, I GUESS, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND THEREFORE BY SHIFTING IT AND ADDING THAT THREE ACRES TO THE RESIDENTIAL WILL ALLOW YOU TO GET ONE MORE LOT OF RESIDENTIAL. RIGHT? OKAY. SO SO THIS REZONING IS, IS TO DEVELOP THE RESIDENTIAL PART, NOT THE COMMERCIAL PART. CORRECT? OKAY. OKAY, I GOT YOU. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH THAT'S FINE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD AND ON THAT THEN YOU'RE SAYING YOUR PLAN WAS TO DO SEPTIC AND WELL CORRECT OKAY. WILL YOU SELL THE COMMERCIAL PART OF IT TO SOMEBODY OR. WELL, YOU KNOW, WE HADN'T DECIDED YET. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THE COMMERCIAL SIDE? BUT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST KIND OF FOCUSING RIGHT NOW ON THE RESIDENTIAL, TRYING TO SEE HOW THAT GOES. YEAH.

OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS OR OPPOSED TO THIS? YES, SIR. PLEASE COME UP AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF. I'M GOOD. HOW ARE YOU TODAY? SO ALSO, MR. ANTHONY, THE PROPERTY OWNER, PETER BROSH BROCHU. YOU WERE THE FORMER OWNER, RIGHT? OKAY, ALRIGHT. GOOD FRIEND. SO THE PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT TO IT, IT'S WHERE THAT IT'S COMMERCIAL. THE TEN ACRES. 11 ACRES NOW. AND THAT ONE PART IS RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE IT WAS GOING TO BE AN INTEREST IN THE RESIDENTIAL THERE. BUT IT MAKES MORE SENSE BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYBODY DOWN THERE AND ON DUNN ROAD TOO. SO THEY'RE GOOD FRIENDS. BUT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT PART ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. SO WE ALREADY HAVE ONE DRIVEWAY ON THAT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. SO IF COMMERCIAL EVER HAPPENS IT'S GOING TO BE THERE.

TO THE LEFT OF THE PROPERTY IS RESIDENTIAL. BUT MR. ANTHONY ALSO BOUGHT THE PROPERTY NEXT TO IN PINE MOUNTAIN, RIGHT ON THE BORDER. THAT PROPERTY, THAT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, THERE'S A A CHIROPRACTOR AND A DAYCARE THERE. HE BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY THAT HOOKS RIGHT UP TO IT. SO

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ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT FOR OR OPPOSED SEEING NONE. HEARING NONE. HOW WOULD THE BOARD LIKE TO HANDLE THIS? DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THIS REZONING. OH, WITH THE STAFF? WITH THE STAFF. I'M SORRY. WITH THE STAFF. RECOMMENDATIONS OF CLOSING OFF. DUNN STREET, DUNN ROAD. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ALL Y'ALL. PLEASE DON'T FEEL OBLIGATED TO HANG AROUND. OKAY. THE NEXT APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED BY MUNICIPAL COMMUNICATIONS. THEY

[V.B.1. Special Use Application - Municipal Communications - 626 Sandtown Rd (APN 0740 000002) 1st Reading (Vote Eligible)]

ALSO, WITH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT SIGN, OUR SIGN WENT UP ON SEPTEMBER 22ND AND THE NOTICE IN THE PAPER WENT UP ON SEPTEMBER 20TH. DAVID DYER, OUR CONSULTANT, IS HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL GO OVER THE REST OF IT. THE PROPERTY IS COMPRISED OF 4.1 ACRES. IT DOES HAVE A HOME ON THE PROPERTY AT THE MOMENT. IT IS SURROUNDED BY THE CITY OF WEST POINT AND THE CITY THE CITY OF LAGRANGE, THE STANDARDS. THE REQUEST SHOULD NOT GENERATE TRAFFIC PATTERNS ON CHARACTERISTICS TO THE AREA, THE EXISTING UTILITIES, FACILITIES AND SERVICES ARE CURRENTLY AND ADEQUATELY ACCOMMODATING. USES IDENTICAL TO THE PROPOSED USE. THE PROPERTY IS IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. THE PROPOSED USE WOULD NOT HAVE A DETRIMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND THE PROPOSED USE MAY AFFECT THE HEALTH. SAFETY MAY AFFECT THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY. THE GIST OF THE APPLICATION IS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PLACE 197 FOOT CELL TOWER ON THAT PROPERTY. OUR OUR ORDINANCE STATES IT HAS TO BE AT LEAST 100FT, PLUS 10% OF THE 100FT. SO THE FALL ZONE WOULD BE AT LEAST 110FT. IT WOULDN'T GO ACROSS THE PROPERTY LINE. RIGHT NOW. THE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE ON THAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 110. DAVID, CAN YOU PULL THAT UP? JAY. THE LETTER FROM DAVID. JAMES, CAN YOU FIND OUT LATER TO FROM OUR CONSULTANT. THANK YOU. I AM TRYING TO FIND. OKAY THIS IS THE SPECIFICATIONS ON.

CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE OTHER ONE THE THE MAP FOR ON THAT DAVID'S. YEAH. OKAY. RIGHT WHERE YOU SEE THE 618 WAS THE RECOMMENDATION FOR IS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE APPLICANT. DAVID'S RECOMMENDATION IS OVER. FURTHER OVER AS YOU CAN SEE IS 153 TO

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NO, THE THAT FALLS ON 100 FOOT. YES. IT'S JUST SET AT 100. HE'S ALSO EXCEEDING ASKING FOR A VARIANCE ON THE HEIGHT. YES, SIR. PLUS HE'S NOT MEETING ANYTHING THAT IT'S NOT ALL ZONED. THE FALL ZONE REQUIREMENTS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE MADE A FALSE OWN REQUIREMENTS. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT WE DO HAVE TOWERS IN THE COUNTY THAT ARE HIGHER THAN THAT 100 FOOT, OBVIOUSLY. ESPECIALLY IF YOU RIDE AROUND. WELL RIGHT.

AND THEN WE HAVE HAD SOME APPROVED THOUGH SINCE THIS ORDINANCE WAS IN WHAT THE WHAT THE CODE SAYS OR I THINK DAVID CAN SPEAK BETTER THAN I CAN ON IT, BUT IS IF THE APPLICANT SHOWS. SCIENTIFIC REASON WHY IT HAS TO BE THAT HIGH FOR THE PROPAGATION THAT TO REACH A CERTAIN AREA, THAT THEN THEN THEY CAN TRY TO JUSTIFY THAT HEIGHT, IF YOU WILL. THEY CAN TRY TO JUSTIFY THE HEIGHT WITH THE PROPAGATION COVERAGE AREA, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY, I DID RECEIVE A LETTER IN YESTERDAY FROM AT&T. I GUESS THAT WILL BE THE INDIVIDUAL THAT'S GOING TO BE PLACING THE MODIFYING THE TOWER TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS. THE. THIS LETTER IS TO CONFIRM THAT AT&T REQUIRES A TOWER WITH A MINIMUM HEIGHT OF 197FT AT 626 SANDTOWN ROAD, LAGRANGE, GEORGIA, 30240, WHICH WILL PROVIDE 192 FOOT R&D CENTER. THIS IS NECESSARY TO SERVE THE AREA CURRENTLY COVERED BY A 250 FOOT TOWER ACROSS THE INTERSTATE, CROSSING THE STATE 85, A LOWER R&D CENTER WOULD RESULT IN REDUCED COVERAGE COMPARED TO THE CURRENT SERVICE FOOTPRINT IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTY FOR AT&T SUBSCRIBERS, AND THAT IS FROM THE ENGINEER. JAMES, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE LAYOUT THAT YOU SHOWED WITH THE 150 SOMETHING FEET? I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BETTER. MR. DYER'S THING. TO YOUR POINT, YES, THEY'RE REALLY ASKING FOR A VARIANCE ON THE HEIGHT AND THE FALL ZONE, BOTH AND IN THE PAST. THEY CAN TRY, IF YOU WILL, TO JUSTIFY THE HEIGHT AND WHAT MR. DYER WAS SAYING HERE AND HIS THEIR APPLICATION SHOWS THE LOCATION OF IT BEING FURTHER DOWN, LIKE WHERE THAT 618 IS MORE IN THE POINT WHERE IT VIOLATES THE FALL ZONE EVEN MORE. MR. DYER DREW THIS SHOWING. WELL, THEY COULD LOWER IT IF THEY CHOSE TO. THEY COULD LOWER IT TO 150FT IF THEY PUT IT RIGHT THERE AND THEN, IT WOULD MEET THE FALL ZONE BECAUSE IT WOULD MISS THE HOUSE OR THE STRUCTURE OF THE BARN PLUS THE PROPERTY LINE. SO HE WAS JUST, I GUESS, PROPOSING A POTENTIAL OPTION OF THAT. IF THEY PUT IT RIGHT THERE THAT THEY COULD, THEY COULD STILL NOT VIOLATE THE FALL ZONE, IF YOU WILL. BUT THEY'D HAVE THEY WOULD HAVE TO LOWER IT TO A LOWER HEIGHT AND STILL COMPLY WITH THE FALL ZONE. SO THEN THEY'D BE ASKING, I GUESS, FOR ONE VARIANCE, JUST THE HEIGHT, BUT NOT THE FALL ZONE. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS KIND OF WAS SHOWING THAT THAT IF THEY COULD LOWER IT TO LIKE SAY 140, THEY COULD PLACE IT THERE AND NOT VIOLATE THE FALL ZONE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? NEXT QUESTION WAS. I DIDN'T THINK THIS THE THE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL PERMITTED INTO. THIS. ON ANY OF THE PROCESS COMPONENTS. AND IT HAS TO COME IN AS A SCHEDULE FOR THIS. TELL ME AGAIN THE HEIGHT OF THE CURRENT TOWER IS

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SO AT&T NOW HAS ALL OF THEIR EQUIPMENT ON THAT TOWER, BUT THEY'RE ASKED TO VACATE THAT TOWER. HOW TALL IS THE WATER TANK. OOH PRETTY TALL I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IT'S TALL OR TALLER THAN WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE. I DON'T THINK IT'S CALLED IN WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. I DON'T KNOW THE HEIGHT OF THEIR WATER TOWER. NO, I DON'T THINK IT'S 197FT. MAYBE 100 FOOT. YEAH.

JAMES MIGHT BE ABLE TO TRY TO GET AN ESTIMATE, WHICH IS PROBABLY WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE BALLOON TEST, THE PICTURE PACKET, PAGE 34, LOOKING SOUTH DOWN THE INTERSTATE, THE BALLOON APPEARS TO BE A GOOD BIT HIGHER THAN THE THE KIA TOWER, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY IF KIA, IF THEY APPROACHED KIA. THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. WHEN WE GET TO THAT PART OF THE APPLICANT, THESE TOWERS FALL. I KNOW IN THE RECENT TORNADO WE HAD DAMAGES TO THE ONE DOWN IN WEST POINT, THE ONE ON OVER BY OAK GROVE, AND I'M GETTING THERE WERE DAMAGES TO THOSE TOWERS, BUT I'M NOT SURE IT'S NOT. YEAH. TALL. YEAH. BUT IT WAS TORNADO.

YEAH. WHO OWNS THE LAND TO THE I WOULD SAY IT'S USUALLY I MEAN I CAN'T I'M NOT AN EXPERT AT IT BUT I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY 99.99% OF THE TIME IF IT FALLS, IT'S, IT'S WEATHER RELATED, STORM RELATED TORNADO, HURRICANE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. RELATED. WHO OWNS THE LAND TO THE WEST? I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT. THE CITY OF WESTPORT. YEAH. OH, YOU MEAN THE ONE THAT THE TOWERS CAME OFF? I THAT'S CLARENDON PLACE. NO, THE TOWER WHERE THIS WOULD FALL TO THE WEST. OH, THAT TO THE WEST? YES. THE CITY OF WEST POINT. JAMES HAS IT UP, SERGEANT LISTED. LOGISTICS. YEAH. OKAY. DID THEY NOT KNOW? WHAT DO THEY HAVE NO INPUT ON WHETHER THEY COULD CARRY THE TOWER FELL ON THEIR PROPERTY OR NOT? I KNOW THE DOT DOESN'T CARE IF IT FELL ON THE RIGHT OF WAY. WE GOT THAT. I BELIEVE THEY WERE NOTIFIED. ALL NOTIFIED? YES, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE THEY WERE NOTIFIED. THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO THAT BETTER. OKAY. AND SO COULD DAVID. PROBABLY BECAUSE I BELIEVE OUR ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT I BELIEVE AND I THINK ORDINANCE ALSO REQUIRE LETTERS TO BE SENT OUT. LETTERS WERE SENT OUT. AND WE DO HAVE DOCUMENTATION THAT THEY WERE SENT. AND THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS. SO WE DO HAVE PROOF OF THAT. OKAY. OKAY. SO ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR DO WE WANT TO GET THE APPLICANT UP HERE. OKAY. SO IS THE APPLICANT HERE. AND SHOULD WE ASK DAVID TO COME UP WITH HIM. OR HE JUST WANT TO SPEAK ON HIS OWN? DAVID JUST IN THE COUNTY. JUST APPLICANT THE COUNTY. YEAH. WELL I KNOW I JUST. ALL RIGHT.

AND YOU ARE. GOOD MORNING, PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS CLAY BROGDON. I'M AN INDEPENDENT TELECOMMUNICATIONS CONSULTANT AND A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER WITH OVER 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE MANAGING CELL SITE DEVELOPMENT FOR SOUTHERN LINK WIRELESS BEFORE RETIRING IN 2019. I'VE BEEN ENGAGED BY MUNICIPAL COMMUNICATIONS ON BEHALF OF AT&T TO REPRESENT THEM IN ALL ZONING AND PERMITTING MATTERS RELATED TO SECURING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A 197 FOOT TALL MONOPOLE. THIS NEW MONOPOLE IS NEEDED TO REPLACE AN EXISTING 300 FOOT TALL GUYED TOWER THAT IS SCHEDULED TO BE DECOMMISSIONED LATER THIS YEAR OR EARLY NEXT YEAR. AT&T CURRENTLY OPERATES A CELL SITE ON THE 300 FOOT TALL GUYED TOWER LOCATED ADJACENT TO I-85 NORTH, VERY NEAR THE KIA PLANT EXIT. THE OWNER OF THE TOWER,

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WHY IS REPLACING THIS SITE SO CRITICAL? AT&T OPERATES WHAT IS KNOWN AS FIRSTNET, THE ONLY NATIONWIDE COMMUNICATIONS PLATFORM THAT PROVIDES PRIORITIZED DEDICATED MOBILE BROADBAND FOR FIRST RESPONDERS. FIRSTNET ENSURES THAT PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL, INCLUDING AGENCIES SUCH AS JIMA, CAN ACCESS CRITICAL COMMUNICATIONS DURING EMERGENCIES. A LOSS OF COVERAGE ALONG I-85 WOULD NOT ONLY IMPAIR SERVICE TO FIRSTNET USERS, BUT ALSO NEGATIVELY IMPACT RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES, AND VISITORS TO THE AREA. OUR APPLICATION DEMONSTRATES COMPLIANCE WITH MOST PROVISIONS OF YOUR ORDINANCE. HOWEVER, WE ARE REQUESTING RELIEF AND WAIVER FROM TWO SPECIFIC ITEMS UNDER ARTICLE TEN OF THE ORDINANCE, SO I WANTED TO HIT THEM HEAD ON. FIRST. RELIEF FROM ARTICLE 10.12 C. THIS SECTION LIMITS NEW TOWERS TO A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 120FT. UNLESS IT CAN BE DEMONSTRATED THAT A GREATER HEIGHT IS ESSENTIAL TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE SERVICE. AT&T IS CURRENTLY LOCATED AT 250FT ON THE EXISTING TOWER THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR REMOVAL LATER THIS YEAR OR EARLY NEXT. THEY HAVE AGREED THAT THEY CAN OPERATE AT 195FT ON THE NEW MONOPOLE, WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT DEGRADATION OF THEIR SIGNAL.

ALSO INCLUDED IN OUR APPLICATION IS A VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND DETAILED RADIO FREQUENCY EVALUATION OF AT&T. NEED FOR A SITE TO REPLACE THE ONE BEING DECOMMISSIONED. THE EVALUATION WAS PERFORMED BY A THIRD PARTY RF ENGINEERING COMPANY CALLED 4G UNWIRED. THEY ARE A VERY REPUTABLE COMPANY AND ARE IN NO WAY AFFILIATED WITH AT&T OR MUNICIPAL COMMUNICATIONS. IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF THEIR REPORT, THEY STATE THAT BASED ON OUR ANALYSIS, THE PROPOSED CELL TOWER IN TROUP COUNTY IS ESSENTIAL TO ADDRESS RF PROPAGATION GAPS AND MAINTAIN ADEQUATE COVERAGE AND CAPACITY FOR AT&T MOBILE NETWORK. THEIR REPORT ALSO CONFIRMED THAT A SHORTER TOWER, LIMITED TO ONLY 120FT, WOULD PROVIDE INSUFFICIENT COVERAGE, RENDERING THE PROJECT INEFFECTIVE AND PLACING AN UNDUE BURDEN ON AT&T. ALSO, AT ONLY 120FT, THERE WILL LIKELY BE NO INTEREST FROM OTHER CARRIERS TO CO-LOCATE, WHICH WOULD MEAN ADDITIONAL TOWERS IN THE AREA COULD BE NECESSARY.

OUR ASK IS FOR A MONOPOLE THAT IS 197FT TALL, RATHER THAN ONE THAT IS ONLY 120FT IN HEIGHT.

AND SECOND, WE'RE ALSO REQUESTING RELIEF FROM ARTICLE 10.16. THIS SECTION REQUIRES THAT TOWERS BE SET BACK FROM ADJACENT PARCELS RIGHTS OF WAY AND ROADS BY A DISTANCE EQUAL TO THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER, PLUS 10%. THIS REQUIREMENT IS GENERALLY IMPOSED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THE TOWER FELL OVER LIKE A TREE, IT WOULD NOT FALL ACROSS ANY OF THE PROPERTY LINES. BUT IN FACT, WHEN A MONOPOLE FAILS, IT DOES NOT FALL OVER LIKE A TREE. IN OUR APPLICATION, WE PROVIDED A CERTIFIED FALL ZONE LETTER FROM SABER INDUSTRIES. THEY STATE THAT THESE MONOPOLES ARE DESIGNED WITH LARGE FACTORS OF SAFETY NOT TO FAIL, BUT IN THE EVENT OF AN UNUSUAL WEATHER CATASTROPHE, THIS MONOPOLE IS DESIGNED TO BUCKLE AT THE LOCATION OF HIGHEST STRESS AND MONOPOLE SHAFT AND LEAN OVER AND REMAIN IN A PERMANENTLY DEFORMED CONDITION. THIS WOULD EFFECTIVELY RESULT IN A 50 FOOT FALL ZONE RADIUS AT GROUND LEVEL. IN ADDITION, THE CLOSEST EXISTING STRUCTURE TO THE NEW MONOPOLE IS OVER 250FT AWAY, WHICH IS MORE THAN THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER PLUS 10%. IN ADDITION, WE HAVE CONTACTED AND NOTIFIED BOTH OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS TO OUR PARCEL, AND NEITHER OF THEM ARE OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT. WE BELIEVE OUR APPLICATION PROVIDES SUBSTANTIAL DOCUMENTATION JUSTIFYING BOTH WAIVER REQUESTS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT GRANTING THESE WAIVERS ALIGNS WITH THE INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THE COUNTY CELL TOWER ORDINANCE, RATHER THAN ADDING MORE TOWERS. THIS PROJECT ENSURES THAT ONE STRATEGICALLY PLACED REPLACEMENT TOWER, TALL ENOUGH TO SUPPORT UP TO FOUR CARRIERS, WILL MAINTAIN CURRENT SERVICE LEVELS. IN ORDER TO HELP JUSTIFY AND APPROVE OUR REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR

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OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DID YOU EXPLORE ANY OTHER LOCATION POSSIBILITIES OTHER THAN WHAT YOU'VE JUST MENTIONED? THERE WAS A THIRD PROPERTY TO THE EAST OF THE WATER TANK, AND THEY DECLINED TO MOVE FORWARD AS WELL. THEY WOULD NEED A 250 FOOT TOWER DUE TO THE ELEVATION.

I BELIEVE THEY WANT TO BUILD A TRUCK STOP IN THE FUTURE, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE A LITTLE FAR AWAY AND THEIR SITE PLAN ISN'T COMPLETELY FINALIZED. AND SO THEY JUST FIGURED IT COULD IMPEDE THEIR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. SO THEY WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD AS WELL. IF THE TOWER FELL AT 197FT, FULLY FELL FROM GROUND TO TOP, HOW FAR WOULD IT INTRUDE INTO THE INTERSTATE LANES, OR WOULD IT WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY? WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, IF IT'S BUILT AT 197FT LIKE IT'S PROPOSED, IT'S 100FT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE THERE. SO YOU WOULD HAVE 97FT IN ADDITION, ACROSS THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH THE GEORGIA DOT HAS LOOKED AT, EVALUATED AND STATED THAT THEY HAVE NO CONCERN, IT LOOKS LIKE IT MAY JUST ENCROACH ON THE EXIT LANE RIGHT THERE, BUT WILL NOT FALL OUT ACROSS INTO THE INTO THE YOUR LOCATION. WHAT ABOUT MISS DAVID'S LOCATION, MR. DRIVER'S LOCATION? SO I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ON THE SAME PARCEL.

RIGHT? YEAH. YOURS IS 100FT. HIS IS 150FT. THAT'S RIGHT. BECAUSE HE'S HE HE IS SUGGESTING MOVING IT NORTH, WHICH BUYS YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE SETBACK DISTANCE FROM THE ON THE SIDES. BUT HE'S ALSO PROPOSING A 135 FOOT TOWER AT THAT LOCATION TO GET THAT SETBACK, WHICH IS STILL GREATER THAN YOUR 120FT THAT YOU ALLOW IN YOUR ORDINANCE. IF I SAY ANYTHING WRONG, YOU CORRECT ME. BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, RIGHT? OKAY. I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO MISREPRESENT ANYTHING. SO LET ME GET IT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU'RE REQUESTING A 190 FOOT TOWER. 197? YES, SIR. WHICH FALLS OUTSIDE, WHICH WOULD FALL BASED ON SNAPPING AT THE FOUNDATION OR A FOUNDATION. DEGRADATION WOULD. NO MATTER WHICH WAY IT FALLS, IT'S GOING TO FALL ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY. IF IT FELL LIKE A TREE, CORRECT? YEAH. IF IT FELL LIKE A TREE, IT'S GOING TO FALL ON SOMEBODY ELSE. NOW THERE'S A HOUSE THERE. IS ANYBODY LIVING IN THAT HOUSE, OR WILL THEY BE LIVING IN THE HOUSE? I BELIEVE THAT IS A HOUSE. IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT OUT OF FRAME TO OTHER BEES. OKAY. SO THAT'S NOT A RESIDENCE THAT IT WOULD FALL ON. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. AND IT'S 250FT AWAY FROM WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING TO OKAY. ALL RIGHT I SEE THAT NOW. ALL RIGHT OKAY. HOW FAR IS IT AWAY FROM DAVID'S LOCATION. WHAT DO YOU MEAN? IT'S A IT'S A FEW HUNDRED FEET AWAY FROM THAT HOUSE, ISN'T IT, 250FT AWAY FROM. NOT FROM THE FROM THE CLOSE. YEAH I KNOW, YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. 50FT RIGHT THERE TO THE GARAGE. THAT'S. YEAH. THAT'S IT. THAT'S IF, IF WE, IF THE TOWER IS SLID NORTH ON THE SAME PARCEL UP TO THAT SPOT WHERE YOU SEE THERE, IT WOULD BE 154FT TO THAT BUILDING THAT YOU SEE RIGHT THERE. AND IT'S A IT'S PROPOSED TO BE 135 FOOT TOWER. SO HE'S SAYING 135 FOOT TOWER FELL OVER LIKE A TREE. IT'S STILL NOT GOING TO TOUCH THAT BUILDING THERE. YOU GOT 197 FOOT TOWER. IT'S GOING TO BE 4440 SOMETHING MORE FEET. YEAH. BUT YOU SAID YOU'RE LOOKING AT DAVID'S PROPOSAL, NOT THEIR PROPOSAL. IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. YEAH.

SO MY QUESTION IS YOU YOU ORIGINALLY WANTED TO PUT IT AT, AT THAT SIX 618 MARK. SO YOU'RE MOVING IT UP TO THAT'S WHERE THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE ORIGINAL SPOT. RIGHT. IT'S VERY CLOSE TO THERE. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. SO IN THAT AREA. SO YOU WANT TO MOVE IT UP NOW. THEY DON'T WANT TO MOVE. WE DON'T WANT TO. YOU WANT TO. DO YOU HAVE A PLAN THAT SHOWS THE LOCATION THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING JAMES. YEAH I CAN PULL IT. YEAH. THIS WAS DAVID'S LAYOUT JUST SHOWING. YEAH, YEAH, I'M JUST EXPLAINING TO. YEAH, YEAH, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. HERE'S THEIR THEIR LOCATION. OKAY. ALRIGHT. YOU KNOW, THOSE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS TO THE EAST AND

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THEY BASICALLY SAID THE COMPROMISE FROM 250 DOWN TO 195 IS ALL THEY CAN COMPROMISE AND STILL MAINTAIN A SITE THAT MAKES SENSE TO EVEN DEVELOP. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET ALL THE PLAYERS. AND SO JAMES, IF IF THE TOWER FELL LIKE A TREE AT DAVID'S LOCATION AT 197FT, HOW FAR WOULD IT EXTEND BEYOND THE RIGHT OF WAY AND POSSIBLY INTO THE PAVEMENT OF 85? HOW TALL A TOWER ARE YOU TALKING? 197 AT DAVID'S LOCATIONS, 97FT. IT'S 100 FOR THE TO THE RIGHT OF WAY. NO, IT'S 150 ON DAVID'S PLAN. RIGHT. GO BACK TO THE RIGHT. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 47FT, BUT THE RIGHT OF WAY IS GREATER THAN 40FT, IS IT NOT? DAVID COULD PROBABLY ANSWER THAT BETTER THAN I COULD. THESE PDFS ARE NOT GOING TO BE SCALABLE.

WHY DON'T WE BRING DAVID UP ON HERE? IT'S STILL IT'S STILL IT'S STILL. OKAY. ALRIGHT, DAVID, TELL US WHO YOU ARE, PLEASE, SIR. OKAY. DAVID DYER, GEORGIA CENTER FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT I HAVE BEEN YOUR ORDINANCE CONSULTANT ON TOWERS NOW SINCE ABOUT 29, 2010, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WE'VE DONE A NUMBER OF, OF REVIEWS FOR YOU NOW, 2 OR 3 DIFFERENT THINGS UP FRONT. OUR JOB IS NOT TO SUGGEST APPROVING OR DENYING THE APPLICATION. OUR JOB IS TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE APPLICATION COMPORTS WITH THE YOUR LOCAL ORDINANCE, WITH THE STATE GUIDELINES, AND WITH THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES. NOW, LET'S SPEAK FIRST OF ALL TO YOUR LOCAL ORDINANCE. THE APPLICANT IS EXACTLY CORRECT. 1012 IN YOUR ORDINANCE SAYS THAT A TOWER, BASICALLY, IF YOU BOIL DOWN AND GET THROUGH ALL OF THE ALL OF THE FUNNY WORDS, IT SAYS, AN APPLICANT CAN BUILD A TOWER, ANY HEIGHT IN THIS COUNTY, SO LONG AS THEY CAN PROVE A TECHNICAL NEED FOR THAT SOLID. HOWEVER, IF YOU GO DOWN TO 10.16, IT STILL SAYS WHATEVER THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER IS, THE FALL ZONE MUST BE AT LEAST 110%. SO AT 197FT, YOUR FALL ZONE WOULD BE 217FT. OKAY, NOW LET'S ALSO SPEAK TO WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS IS DAVID'S PROPOSAL. I DON'T MAKE PROPOSALS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. CELL TOWERS, EXCUSE ME FOR SAYING THAT. WHAT WE DO IS WE LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVES THAT COULD POSSIBLY WORK IF THE APPLICANT WERE TO WERE TO SAY, OKAY, I CAN DO THAT. SO NO MATTER WHICH WAY YOU GO, THE FALL ZONE IS NOT GOING TO BE MET. IT'S GOING TO BE 110% OF WHATEVER THE HEIGHT IS AT THE LOCATION WHERE IT CURRENTLY IS, AT THE HEIGHT THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR. NOW, THE NEXT QUESTION IS, WELL, WILL IT FALL LIKE A TREE, OR CAN THERE BE A BREAK POINT? YES, THERE CAN BE AN ENGINEERED BREAK POINT, AND YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE LETTER THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY AN ENGINEER ABOUT A POTENTIAL BREAK POINT. HOWEVER, THE YOU WILL YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THE THE LETTER SAYS

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YES, IT APPEARS THAT IT WOULD IN BOTH CASES, OR JUST IN IN THE IN THE 197 FOOT CASE AND 135 FOOT CASE, IT WOULD ONLY GO TO THE PROPERTY LINE. THE EXISTING PROPERTY LINE. OKAY, IT FALLS ON, BUT COUNTING THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS, BUT I'M ASSUMING IT'S IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE 40 TO 60 FOOT RANGE. YEAH. THAT'S NOT VERY FAR. NOT VERY FAR. BUT IF IT IT YOUR PROPOSED NOT PROPOSED LOCATION OF 150. THERE'S ONLY 47FT OF DIFFERENCE.

WOULD IT EXTEND AT THAT LOCATION. YOU'RE NOT PROPOSED LOCATION INTO THE DRIVING LANE OF INTERSTATE 85. NO. IT WOULD ONLY GO TO THE THROUGH THE RIGHT OF WAY. THE THE EXEMPTION, THE EXISTING PROPERTY LINE OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. YEAH. IT WOULDN'T CROSS OVER INTO THE.

YEAH. SO IF AT YOUR LOCATION THE 150 FOOT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, IF THE TOWER AT 197FT FELL LIKE A TREE IS GOING TO FALL OVER THE PROPERTY LINE BY 47FT, WOULD THAT 47FT FALL INTO THE DRIVING LANE OF INTERSTATE 85? ACTUALLY, IT'LL FALL FURTHER THAN THIS. WON'T FALL 217FT IF IT HAS A IF IT HAS A FAILURE AT THE BASE. SO YES, THAT WOULD EXTEND. NOW HOW WOULD WHAT TO EXPLAIN TO ME THE 217. I KNOW THE 110%. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WHY WOULD IT FALL? 20FT? SEVEN TIMES 110% WORKS OUT TO BE ABOUT 217FT, RIGHT? BUT THE POLE IS ONLY ACTUALLY 197FT TALL. HAVE YOU EVER CUT DOWN A TREE 197FT IN? YOUR ORDINANCE SAYS IT NEEDS TO BE 100 AND 100%, PLUS TEN ADDITIONAL PERCENT OF THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER? SO THAT'S HOW IT GETS TO. BUT IT WOULD NOT. EITHER WAY, IT'S NOT GOING TO FALL INTO THE DRIVING LANES OF 85 SOUTH. IT COULD HIT THE EXIT RAMP LANE. WELL, IF YOU WILL. JUST TO CLARIFY. YEAH. TO

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THAT'S SURE. IF YOU BEAR WITH ME JUST A MOMENT. THE ONE, THE ONE PRESENTED BY THE, BY THE APPLICANT IS OKAY. THERE WE GO. ALMOST OKAY. IF YOU IF YOU'LL NOTE IT'S 100FT FROM TOWER CENTER POINT TO THE HOG WIRE FENCE, WHICH RUNS ALONG THE INTERSTATE. SO YOU'VE GOT TO ADD. 117 MORE FEET TO THAT IN ORDER TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE. AND SO THAT THAT GOES WELL INTO INTO THE INTERSTATE. OKAY, OKAY. EVEN AT 197FT WITHOUT THE 10%, IT STILL GOES WELL INTO THE INTO INTERSTATE. BUT. BUT AGAIN. MY MY POSITION HERE IS TO SAY IS IT IN VIOLATION OF THE ORDINANCE AS IT'S CURRENTLY PRESENTED? THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES. SO WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO VIOLATE OUR ORDINANCE, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A SPECIAL VARIANCE TYPE THING ON THIS IF WE DO IT. AND ALSO YOU YOU MIGHT BE SETTING A PRECEDENT. YEAH. IS IS WELL FOR FOR FUTURE APPLICATIONS. YEAH. WE DEAL WITH VARIANCES VARIANCES EVERY MONTH OF OF ONE SORT OR ANOTHER. AND WE DEAL WITH, WITH PRECEDENT ALL THE TIME AND EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT. IT'S NOT WE WON'T EVER HAVE ANOTHER ONE EXACTLY LIKE THIS. SO THE PRECEDENT IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. IT'S DIFFERENT IF WE CAN JUSTIFY DIFFERENCES. I'M I'M CURIOUS WHAT IN THIS VICINITY OF GEORGIA, IN THIS AREA, WHAT IS THE AVERAGE HEIGHT OF A CELL TOWER, A MONOPOLE, DO YOU KNOW, MONOPOLES SELDOM EVER GO OVER 199FT. IF I WERE TO SAY THERE'S AN AVERAGE AND THIS IS PURELY, PURELY AN UNSUBSTANTIATED GUESS, PROBABLY 150FT WOULD BE THE AVERAGE AVERAGE, MUCH OVER THE 199. YOU HAVE TO GET INTO THE GUIDEWIRE TYPE TOWERS. NO, NO, NO, YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO START LIGHTING. FCC GETS INVOLVED THEN AND YOU START PUTTING LIGHTS ON THEM AND THAT SORT OF THING. DON'T THEY PUT LIGHTS ON THEM ANYWAY? NO, I MEAN THE ONE BY MY HOUSE HAS GOT LIGHTS ALL OVER IT. THE YAZOO, A LOT TALLER THAN 199 UP NORTH. WHERE YOU AT? I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW TALL IT IS. IT'S HIGH. YEAH. I JUST TELL YOU WHAT THE WHAT THE FCC SAYS. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO. THE ONLY THING I'LL ADD IS CLEARLY THE THE TOWER THAT'S COMING DOWN IS OWNED BY AMERICAN TOWER COMPANY. AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY SAID NO MATTER WHAT, IT'S COMING DOWN IN FEBRUARY. AT&T IS FROM THE LETTER I SAW HAS ALREADY REMOVED THEIR EQUIPMENT HAVEN'T THEY. THEY HAVE AN EXTENSION TOWER. EXTENDED RELEASE. HOUSE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO SO. IN ANY EVENT IN FEBRUARY, UNLESS ANOTHER EXTENSION IS GRANTED IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN. OKAY.

SO THE ONLY OTHER FACTOR THAT COULD REASONABLY BE CONSIDERED IS TAKING A LOOK AT THE THE PROPAGATION STUDY, WHICH DOES SHOW PROPAGATION AT 150FT, RIGHT ON UP TO 197FT. AND I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE A COPY OF THAT PROPAGATION STUDY. CAN YOU IF WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN SEEING THAT? OKAY. NOT INTERESTED IN SEEING THAT. OH YEAH. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. MAKE IT WORK WITH SHORTER TOWERS IF THEY WANT TO. IT'S JUST GOING TO REQUIRE MORE TOWERS TO GET COVERAGE BASICALLY. WHAT IT TAKES. I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THE TALLER TOWER CAN DISSIPATE SIGNALS FURTHER THAN SHORTER TOWERS. SO IT'S NOT THE ONLY THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS WITH THE RF STUDY, YOU CAN YOU CAN ACTUALLY VISUALIZE HOW MUCH. HOW MUCH DISINTEGRATION THERE WOULD BE OF THE OF THE USABLE CELL STRENGTH. AND SO IT VIRTUALLY ANY HEIGHT. EVEN AT 140 OR 50FT, THERE STILL WILL BE SERVICE ALONG THE INTERSTATE. BUT IT IT

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AND THAT RIGHT OF WAY IS GREATER THAN 12FT OKAY. SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO TECHNICALLY DO A SURVEY TO GET YOU THE ANSWER. SO YOU CAN'T JUST ANSWER THAT OFF THE CUFF.

IT'S JUST A SPECULATIVE ANSWER. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT HADN'T BEEN DONE BECAUSE I DON'T EITHER.

BUT YOU CAN'T. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT ISSUE WITH 197 NO MATTER WHERE YOU PUT IT. YEAH, WE HAVE WE HAVE KNOWN RIGHT OF WAYS THAT WE DEAL WITH IN THIS COMMITTEE EVERY MONTH IN THE COUNTY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INTERSTATE 85 RIGHT OF WAY IS. I DON'T EITHER, BUT IT'S GREATER THAN WHAT A RESIDENTIAL RIGHT OF WAY OR EVEN A COMMERCIAL RIGHT OF WAY IN TROUP COUNTY. OKAY. WHAT IS IT, 20FT. IS IT 40FT? JAMES IS TRYING TO GET IT HERE. AND I TRIED TO I TRIED TO TAKE A GUESS AT IT. AND THIS IS THIS IS ROUGH. BUT IF IF THE PROPOSED TOWER SITE BY THE APPLICANT IS AT THAT 618 I DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS EXACTLY AT THAT. 618 BUT IF I MEASURE FROM THAT POINT MORE OR LESS PERPENDICULAR TO THE EDGE LINE OF THE TRAVEL LANE OF I-85, THE DISTANCE THAT I GET THERE IS 188FT. IS THAT THE TRAVEL LANE OR THE EXIT LANE, THAT IS THE TRAVEL? YES. I'M SORRY, THAT'S THE EXIT. EXIT LANE. YEAH.

THANK YOU. YES, THAT'S THE EXIT LANE. OKAY. THIS WOULD BE THE TRAVEL LANE OF I-85 HERE. AND THIS IS THE EXIT LANE HERE. AND IF I MADE A MEASUREMENT FROM THE LOCATION APPROXIMATELY FROM THE LOCATION WHERE DAVID HAD. SUGGESTED, NOT SUGGESTED IN HIS SKETCH TO THE EDGE OF THE TRAVEL LANE OF THE EXIT RAMP. I GOT 219FT. IF THAT HELPS. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO, OKAY, NOW WITH ALL THAT VERY QUICKLY, YOU'RE YOU'RE FACED WITH 197FT. IF YOU MEET THE IF YOU GO WITH WHAT THE APPLICANT SAYS. AND THAT YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF YOUR ORDINANCE. RIGHT. YOU CERTAINLY CAN DO SPECIAL USE WAIVERS AT SOME POINT IN TIME, THE PROPAGATION STUDY WILL NEED TO COME INTO PLAY. I'M ASSUMING THAT WOULD BE THE BOARD OF COMMISSION MEETING. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER WITHOUT MY NO PROPOSAL PROPOSAL? OKAY. THAT'S IT.

THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IF Y'ALL WOULD ENTERTAIN ME. THIS IS SUCH A CRITICAL SITUATION THAT WE HAVE HERE BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING THEM QUESTIONS. NOW IF THAT IF THAT

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DOCUMENTED FAILURES. ACTUAL MONOPOLE FAILURES ARE VERY UNCOMMON, BUT A FEW EXAMPLES EXIST. HURRICANE OR TORNADO EVENTS. SOME MONOPOLES HAVE COLLAPSED DURING DIRECT HITS BY STRONG TORNADOES F3 TO F5 OR CATEGORY 4 OR 5 HURRICANES, WHERE SUSTAINED WIND SPEEDS FAR EXCEED DESIGN SPECS. EVEN THEN, MOST FAILURES OCCUR. MID POLE BUCKLING NOT A FULL BASE TIP FALL. BOTTOM LINE A COMMUNICATIONS MONOPOLE DOES NOT FALL LIKE A TREE. IF IT WERE EVER TO FAIL UNDER EXTREME CONDITIONS, IT WOULD TYPICALLY CRUMPLE, BUCKLE, OR HINGE NEAR A MIDSECTION AND FALL WITHIN A CONTROLLED RADIUS, A BEHAVIOR THAT TOWER ENGINEERS INTENTIONALLY DESIGN FOR. SO. SO THAT'S WHAT I GOT WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION. AND I WOULD ALSO JUST SAY, IN THE EVENT OF AN EF THREE THROUGH FIVE TORNADO OR CATEGORY 4 OR 5 HURRICANES THAT BLOW INTO LAGRANGE, GEORGIA, THERE'S GOING TO BE HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF TREES THAT GET TOPPLED OVER, LIKE TREES THAT ARE OUT THERE IN THE INTERSTATE.

BEFORE THIS ONE MONOPOLE WOULD ACTUALLY ENCROACH ON THE ON THE INTERSTATE. AND THE GEORGIA DOT ON THEIR LETTERHEAD HAVE SAID THEY HAVE NO CONCERN ABOUT IT, THAT THEY THINK IT'S FINE. SO I'LL BE QUIET. AND JUST IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'LL TRY TO ANSWER THEM. BUT I THIS IS SUCH A CRITICAL THING THAT WE'RE ENTERTAINING TODAY. UNDERSTAND. WE WE UNDERSTAND IT'S CRITICAL, BUT IT'S CRITICAL TO US AS A BOARD TO REPRESENT OUR CITIZENS AND MAKE SURE THE SAFETY IS.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE SOMETIMES HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE WORST CASE. AND UNLESS AN ENGINEER'S GOING TO GUARANTEE THAT HIS THING IS GOING TO FALL LIKE HE DESIGNED IT, WE GOTTA CONSIDER THAT IT MIGHT NOT FALL LIKE THAT. AND THAT SOMEBODY MAY BE LIVING IN THAT HOUSE, OR BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST LEASED. YOU DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY, YOU'RE JUST DOING A GROUND LEASE.

RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT HERE. YEAH, THAT THAT'S THEY COULD SELL TOMORROW. SO. ALRIGHT. SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION THOROUGHLY. THOROUGHLY OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROPOSED. THEY'RE LOOKING LIKE THEY DO DON'T OKAY. IT'S ALRIGHT. Y'ALL OWN THE LAND OKAY. ALRIGHT. JUST. ALRIGHTY. SO HEARING NO QUESTIONS. SEEING NONE. NO MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. DOES SOMEBODY IN THE BOARD WANT TO. I GUESS WE GOT, I DON'T KNOW, YAY NAY OR TABLE.

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THREE. THREE. TWO TWO. MOTION TO DENY. CARRIES. IS THAT RIGHT? YES, I COUNTED CORRECTLY. OKAY, ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. MISS. NEXT. SO NEXT ITEM IS JUST A REVIEW OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT THAT WAS

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THE PROPOSED CHANGE SHOULD NOT CREATE ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. THE. IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. THE ONCE AGAIN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATED THIS AREA IS EMERGING NEIGHBORHOODS AND THAT DEVELOPMENT WILL BE SUITABLE IN THIS AREA. ANY QUESTIONS? THIS IS LAKEFRONT RESIDENTIAL. ACTUALLY, NO. IT'S SUBURBAN. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN. IT WAS SFWMD AND THEN THE ZONING IS SEWER, BUT IT IS ON THE LAKE. IT IS ON THE LAKE. YEAH. THEY'D HAVE TO REZONE IT TO GET LAKESIDE RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE WE HAD. NO, WE DID LIKE TO LIKE. YEAH. OKAY.

ON THE MAP AND PER THE ORDINANCE, WE ALWAYS PRESENT IT TO THE COMMISSIONERS BEFORE IT COMES TO THIS BOARD. WE PRESENT IT TO THEM AS AN FYI, YOU KNOW HERE IT IS. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? DO YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES. DO YOU HAVE ANY. AND THAT WAS PRESENTED TUESDAY TO THE COMMISSIONERS AT THEIR JUST THIS TUESDAY. AND THEY HAD NO COMMENTS. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY.

WHAT IS THE LOT SIZE IN THAT ZONING IN SEWER. IN OUR CURRENT ZONING IT SAYS 1.5. BECAUSE THIS APPLICATION AND THIS PROCESS, NOT JUST THE APPLICATION, STARTED ON MAY 1ST, 2025 WHEN WE HAD OUR FIRST INFORMAL MEETING TO GO OVER POINTS AND ANY CHANGES WE NEED IN ORIENTATION OF THE PLAT, GETTING THE NAMES ON THE OPEN SPACE, WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE, ALL OF THAT. SO WE WENT OVER THAT. WE STARTED ON MAY 1ST. SO IT IS ACTUALLY UNDER THE OLD ZONING ORDINANCE AS TO THE DIMENSIONS. AND THOSE WERE 1.5. NO, IT WAS ONE ONE.

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THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO AGREE FOR US TO DO IT. LAKESIDE WAS SERIOUSLY, IT'S THE GOVERNMENT.

OKAY, ALRIGHT. WELL THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION. I HAD. SO. AND YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS WE DIDN'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION. YOU DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS ONE. ALL RIGHT. SO WHEN WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT IT JUST TO SAY BASED ON OR BASED UNDER SFWMD, WHICH IS WHAT IT STARTED AS IT COMPLIES WITH ALL REQUIREMENTS FOR AN SFWMD SUBDIVISION. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT'S BASICALLY ALL WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO PRELIMINARY PLAT SUBDIVISIONS. THAT'S BASICALLY THE BOTTOM LINE. DOES IT COMPLY WITH THE ORDINANCE OR NOT. AND WHAT'S THE SCORE. IT WAS TEN. AND THIS DOES COMPLY. AND BACK TO YOUR POINT, WHICH WE CAN ARGUE IT WAS THE OLD ZONING MAP WAS PUT IN WHAT, 25, 30 YEARS? YEAH. I WAS JUST CURIOUS IS THAT EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ON THE LAKE, IF IT WAS CLOSER TO THE CITY THAN IT WAS SFWMD. THERE WAS, THERE WAS IT WASN'T JUST THIS LITTLE AREA LIKE AREAS OVER THERE THAT WERE LIKE MOODY BRIDGE ROAD THAT WAS CLOSE TO THE CITY AND THE LAKESIDE RESIDENTIAL IS MORE RURAL, CORRECT? YEAH. WHEN YOU'RE A LITTLE FURTHER OUT. BUT IF YOU ARE LIKE VERY CLOSE TO AG LAND, RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S HINDSIGHT. BUT ALRIGHT. WELL WE ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR WE DON'T WE, WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS. YES IT IS A PUBLIC I MEAN YES, WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE OUT THERE. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS SEEING NONE. ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK FOR IT? OKAY. JUST TO INTRODUCE MYSELF.

WILL YOU GET UP HERE AND. MY NAME IS MATTHEW MCQUEEN. I RESIDE 1899 PIEDMONT ROAD, NEW MARKET, TENNESSEE. MY BUSINESS PARTNER AND I PRIMARILY DO WATERFRONT COMMUNITIES IN THE SOUTHEAST. THIS PROPERTY WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION BY DUSTIN JONES, A LOCAL REALTOR, AND HIS, I THINK HIS FAMILY ACTUALLY OWNED THIS PROPERTY, BUT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

AND SO DO Y'ALL OWN THE LAND NOW? OKAY, AS OF RECENTLY. YES, SIR. WE DO. ALRIGHT. WE'VE WE'VE COMPLETED RENDERINGS AND WE'RE WORKING ON FULL DESIGN WITH OUR ENGINEER. HE'S BEEN WORKING PRETTY CLOSELY HAND IN HAND WITH JAMES. JAMES BEEN A BLESSING TO US ALREADY AND JUST REALLY JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND, AND LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT WE DON'T JUST MOVE IN AND MOVE OUT. WE MOVE IN AND GET TO KNOW AND STAY. SO OUR INFORMATION IS WELL KNOWN WITH RUTH AND HER TEAM, AND FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT ANYTIME. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT ANY. HOW CLOSE IS THE NEAREST FIRE HYDRANT? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE WATER RUNNING THROUGH THAT, BUT IT'S FAIRLY CLOSE. I'M NOT SURE WHERE IT IS, BUT ONCE THEY RUN ITS WATER IT WOULD HAVE WATER, RIGHT? PROPOSALS TO INCLUDE WATER MAINS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT WITH FIRE HYDRANTS. OKAY, GOOD. YEAH, THERE'S WATER OUT THERE. THERE IS WATER OUT THERE. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. I WASN'T SURE HOW OUR DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS REQUIRED THEM TO HAVE THE FIRE HYDRANTS. GOOD, GOOD. SAVES ME FROM DRIVING THE FIRE TRUCK TOO FAR. AS THE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER, DO YOU PLAN ON JUST SELLING THE LOTS TO BUILDERS, OR WOULD YOU ALSO BE THE CONTRACTOR? USUALLY WHAT WE DO FIRST IS WE'LL BUILD WE'LL DO A A LARGE MARKETING PRESENCE TO BUILD OUR BRANDING, AND THEN WE WILL SELL LOTS INITIALLY. SO THE INDIVIDUAL BUILDERS AND INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS, LOT BUYERS CAN BUILD THEIR OWN HOMES. WE SET UP HOA AND WE MANAGE THAT HOA FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. OUR VICE PRESIDENT KATIE HANDLES THAT FOR US AND SHE DOES A GREAT JOB. BUT WE USUALLY WHEN WE GET OUTSIDE OF EAST TENNESSEE, WE PRIMARILY

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AND SO WE'RE PROJECTING A LOT AVERAGE ON LAKEFRONT SOMEWHERE AROUND THE 200 RANGE. OKAY. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WE'VE STILL GOT SOME WORK TO DO TO GET INTO THAT. BUT THAT'S WHAT OUR INITIAL BASIS WAS BASED ON. INTERIORS NATURALLY ARE DRAMATICALLY LESS. YEAH. BUT WE WOULD HOW MUCH LESS DO YOU THINK I'M SORRY. HOW MUCH LESS TYPICALLY WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN HERE ON THESE WOULD BE IN THE RANGE OF. 75 TO 80,000, MAYBE ONLY A 1500 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM.

SO WHERE DO YOU SEE THE OVERALL VALUE OF A PACKAGE? INTERIOR AND LAKEFRONT WITH LOT AND HOME.

SO TOTAL TOTAL HOME PACKAGE. YES. IT WOULD DEPEND ON, YOU KNOW, LAKEFRONT VERSUS INTERIOR.

RIGHT. BUT AND WITH OUR MINIMUM GUIDELINES, HAVING SOME STONE, BRICK OR MASONRY PRESENCE ON THE FRONT, WE SHOULD STILL BE ABLE TO ATTAIN IN THE LOW END ON THE INTERIOR LOTS SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF. MID TO HIGH FIVE RANGE. AND THEN NATURALLY WE'RE GOING TO GO WAY NORTH FOR THE LAKEFRONT HOMES AS THEY GET NICER. AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 500,000 FOR HOUSE AND LAND. OKAY, I WOULD SAY NORTH END. YEAH. RIGHT. YEAH. WHAT'S THE AVERAGE WIDTH. LOT WIDTH. IT'S HARD FOR ME TO READ SMALL SCREEN. WHAT'S THE THREE I SEE THERE'S A L9 OR L50 TWO.

IF WE GO OVER TO OUR LINE CHART. L9 IS 157. WHAT WAS THAT OTHER L 52 WAS 151. SO I GUESS ABOUT 150 MINIMUM. SOUNDS GREAT. OKAY, THE LAKE FRONTAGE IS FROM THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS POINT OF VIEW. IS IT IS IT ZONED FOR BOAT DOCKS? PARTIALLY OR ALL OF IT? YES. INDIVIDUAL LOTS WOULD BE ON THEIR OWN TO OBTAIN THOSE. RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND AS FAR AS IT STANDS IN THEIR EYES RIGHT NOW IT IS NOT. BUT DO YOU PLAN ON PUTTING IN A COMMUNITY DOCK IN THE COMMUNITY AREA THAT FRONTS THE LAKE? LIKE THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPER LOOKED AT? THIS PROPERTY WAS PLANNED ON THAT, BUT WE DO NOT. WE WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL DOCKS CAPABILITY ON EACH. AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THE FLAG FLAGS? YES. WELL, THE FLAGS WOULD BE MORE FOR LAKE ACCESS.

USUALLY ARMY WOULD PREFER A WIDER ACCESS, WIDER OWNERSHIP TO THE WATER. SO THAT REALLY IS JUST TO HELP PEOPLE HAVE A WALKWAY TO THE LAKE TO ACCESS THE LAKE, EVEN IF THEY JUST WANT TO GO DOWN THERE AND LOOK AT LOOK AT IT AND IT KEEPS IT FROM BEING JUST A STRICTLY AN INTERIOR LOT ONLY. SO THOSE, THOSE FEW LOTS RIGHT THERE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO OBTAIN A DOCK LIKE THAT UNLESS THEY GET TOGETHER AND DO THEIR OWN COMMUNITY MULTIPLES. SO THERE WON'T. THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE LIKE A GATED COMMUNITY WITH A CLUBHOUSE AND POOL AND ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF. DO YOU PLAN TO HAVE SOME AMENITIES? WE'VE LEFT A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF COMMON AREA HERE, SO IT WILL IT WILL HAVE A PLAYGROUND, A DOG PARK, A LARGE COMMUNITY PAVILION, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A FEW OTHER IDEAS RIGHT NOW WITH OUR ENGINEER, BUT THAT'S THE MINIMUM, BARE MINIMUM RIGHT NOW. OKAY. RIGHT. ALRIGHTY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. DID YOU JUST COME FOR THE FUN OF IT

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ALRIGHT. SO HOW WOULD ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION TO

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THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT TO UPDATE THAT. WE'RE GOING TO PUT PUSH IT INTO ANOTHER CHAPTER IN THE MUNI CODE. SO THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE PART OF THAT DRAFT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON.

OKAY. STARTING AT THE BEGINNING, WE HAD MISSED PUTTING THE COMMERCIAL LIVESTOCK, RAISING POULTRY ON THERE. IT WAS IN THE OLD ORDINANCE EXACTLY WHERE IT WAS PERMITTED A LIGHT, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. THEN WE HAD THE HUNTING CLUB WITH LODGE. THAT ONE FELL OFF.

AND THEN ALSO THE ATHLETIC SLASH HEALTH CLUB, AND THOSE NEEDED TO GO BACK ON. THANK YOU.

AND THEN. WE WENT DOWN. WE WENT DOWN TO LARGE SCALE. WE WENT DOWN TO MANUFACTURED HOMES. I WILL PROVIDE YOU GUYS WITH A COPY OF THE UPDATE THAT THE THAT OUR ATTORNEY AND I DISCUSSED PRIOR TO, AND WE THOUGHT THIS WAS UPLOADED FOR SOME REASON. WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE UPLOADS ON THE CHANGES WE MAKE. BUT WITH THE MANUFACTURED HOME, BASICALLY THE ONLY THING WE DID IS COUCH THE LANGUAGE IN LEGAL TERMS, AND THEN WE STATE IN THERE, IN ADDITION TO EGG, ONLY WE LOOKING AT BECAUSE WE WE'RE GOING DOWN TO SUPPLEMENTAL USE STANDARDS. NONE OF THIS IS REDLINED. SO HOW DO YOU GET THAT ONE MA'AM. MINE'S DIFFERENT. WELL I MEAN YOU DON'T CHANGE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE LEGAL TERMS, CAN YOU PULL IT DOWN FOR ME? YOU HAVE THE OLD ONE VERSUS THE NEW ONE. B7. YES, B7 YEAH, BUT THEIRS IS THE UPDATED ONE. THE. BY THE WAY, THE FIRST PART OF IT IS THE WHERE MARCH MARK COUCHED IT IN LEGAL TERMS. AND THEN ON THE THE ONLY CHANGE WE'RE ADDING IN THERE IS KEEPING IT IN KEEPING IT IN AGRICULTURAL. BUT ADDING THE FIVE ACRE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR AGRICULTURAL ONLY LOCATION IN TRUE COUNTY THAT A MANUFACTURED HOME CAN BE LOCATED. WITH APPROVAL FROM THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. AG YES, FIVE ACRES AND AG WITH FIVE ACRES WITH FIVE ACRES IS THE ONLY PLACE MOBILE HOMES WILL BE ALLOWED. NEW NEW MOBILE HOME PLACEMENTS, NEW NEW MOBILE HOME.

IF YOU HAVE ONE BEFORE YOU, YOU'RE ABLE TO REPLACE IT. STAFF APPROVAL OR IS THIS IS IT STILL COME THROUGH US? IT COMES THROUGH. YEAH. YOU GUYS CAN GO TO THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS SO THEY WON'T. AS STATED IN THE SUPPLEMENTAL, WE WILL STILL GET INUNDATED WITH VARIANCES THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO PUT A MOBILE HOME ON A ONE ACRE LOT. NO, SIR. AND A HALF ACRE. NO, THEY THERE'S NO VARIANCE ON THE MANUFACTURED HOME. IT'S JUST PERMITTED IN AGRICULTURAL. AND IT HAS TO GET APPROVAL FROM BOARD OF ZONING AND BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. YOU CANNOT PUT A MOBILE HOME UNDER THIS NEW STANDARD IN HERE, RIGHT? YOU CANNOT PUT A MOBILE HOME ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY. A NEW MOBILE HOME, UNLESS IT'S AN AGRICULTURAL ZONING. AND YOU HAVE FIVE ACRES. YES, SIR. THE TWO THAT WE HAD WAS THAT WAS PRIOR TO THE AUGUST 1ST? YES.

IN AGRICULTURE, I DON'T REMEMBER. NO. DID THEY KNOW THAT THAT THIS WAS COMING AND

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IT WAS NOT THE FIVE ACRE, BUT IT KNEW THAT IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN ON AUGUST 1ST BECAUSE THEY ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS AND YOU GUYS APPROVED THE ORDINANCE TO HAVE IT THERE ONLY. BUT SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT ONE. SO YEAH. REMEMBER THAT. SO. WELL, IF APPLICATIONS COME IN THE UDO. AS I'VE HEARD COMMENTS, THE UDO WAS ADOPTED AND AT THAT COMMISSION MEETING WAS APPROVED TO START AUGUST 1ST. AUGUST 1ST. YEP. SO ANY APPLICATIONS THAT STARTED BEFORE AUGUST 1ST BY LAW WERE IN THE. WE COULD NOT DENY IT. WE'RE IN THE WILD WILD WEST. THEY COULD, WE COULD THEY COULD PUT THEM ANYWHERE BASICALLY ALL THE TIME. YEAH.

IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME THAT. SO IS THIS LAW GOING TO BE CALLED TWO MONTHS AGO, THREE MONTHS AGO AND SAID, HEY, WHAT'S THE MANUFACTURED HOME RULES MANUFACTURED HOME, WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO? THEN WE WOULD HAVE TOLD THEM, WELL, YOU HAVE TO APPLY. THAT'S NOT A RIGHT. YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR IT. AND IF YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT IT, YOU BETTER GET YOUR APPLICATION IN BEFORE AUGUST 1ST, BECAUSE STARTING AUGUST 1ST, IT'S DENIED. AND HOW LONG BEFORE WE GET SUED ON THIS? NO ANSWER. ANY GUESS? I MEAN, I KNOW THE MOBILE HOME MANUFACTURERS AND COMPANIES WILL NOT LIKE THIS. I'M JUST CURIOUS, WILL THIS STAND UP IN A COURT OF LAW? THE POPULATION HAS THE RIGHT TO. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PERCENTAGE IS THAT HAS TO COME TOGETHER AND REQUEST FROM THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS A CHANGE IN THE TEXT. THERE'S NO ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. BECAUSE THIS IS A LOT MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN WE HAVE BEEN. AND I'M NOT I'M NOT I'M NOT ARGUING WITH IT. I'M FINE.

I'M JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PITCHFORKS AREN'T GOING TO COME OUT REAL FAST. AND IF THEY DO WE WERE TOLD TO DO. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. I'M. YOU KNOW. BACK. GREAT. NEED TO BE. WE HAVE I MEAN, IS THAT BACK WHEN WE WERE DOING ALL THIS, WE HAD TOWN HALL MEETINGS, WE HAD MANY MEETINGS. WE LISTENED TO THE COMMISSIONERS, WE LISTENED TO PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD. AND THE CONSENSUS WAS THAT THIS THIS WAS THE WAY. IT DID. THE LAW GET CHANGED RECENTLY THAT MOBILE HOMES ARE NOW CONSIDERED REAL PROPERTY, LIKE A HOUSE, AND DO NOT REQUIRE. THAT'S A QUESTION YOU'D HAVE TO ASK DAN ON PROPERTY APPRAISAL. WE WOULD NOT KNOW HERE. I KNOW IT WAS PROPOSED IN THE LEGISLATURE. YEAH. THAT IN I WAS HOPING THAT WOULD MAYBE CHANGE THE DEPRECIATION RATE OF MOBILE HOMES BECAUSE THAT'S MY MAIN ISSUE WITH THEM IS THAT YOU SPEND $200,000 AND YOU AND FROM A TAX BASIS, YOU PUT LIPSTICK ON A PIG. IT'S STILL A PIG.

YEAH. BUT WE NEED TO RENAME IT AND TAX IT LIKE IT'S A STEER. OKAY. NO, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THAT WAS CHANGED. DO YOU. IT'S GOING TO BE A BETTER QUALITY. YEAH. WELL THEY'RE CERTAINLY GETTING A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE. YEAH. I MEAN 200,000 WAS THE LAST $100 A SQUARE FOOT.

YEAH. SO. ALL RIGHT. ARE WE GOING NEXT. ONE IS ARTICLE B TEN TO SIGN REGULATION. WE NOTICED THAT THEY THERE WAS A CR WHICH IS NOT ONE OF OUR ZONINGS. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN LC.

SO WE'RE CORRECTING THAT. AND THEN IF YOU GO DOWN TO CHANGING SIGNS WE'RE ADDED LIMITED COMMERCIAL. SO IT CAN MATCH WHAT'S ON THE TABLE IN THE SIGN REGULATION. SO IN THE SIGN REGULATION IT TELLS YOU YOU CAN PUT IT IN LIMITED COMMERCIAL. BUT IN THE LANGUAGE UP HERE WE DID NOT PUT LIMITED COMMERCIAL. SO WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT MATCHES. IT'S JUST A CLERICAL.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE JUST NOW. WERE THESE LIKE KEN REAGAN SIGN DOWN ON HAMILTON ROAD, THAT TYPE OF SIGN. THAT'S WHAT A DIGITAL SIGN. YEAH. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE THE ROADSIDE SIGNS NOT THE FLASHING SIGNS IN CONVENIENCE STORES. RIGHT. RIGHT OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AGAIN IT WAS JUST A TYPO. THAT OKAY. EXACTLY THE WAY IT WAS IN THE OLD ORDINANCE, EDUCATING MYSELF A LITTLE BETTER AS POSSIBLE. YEP. AND ARTICLE B 12 THE PROCEDURES FOR THE QUASI JUDICIAL DECISIONS. THE PUBLIC NOTICE AT ONE POINT IT WAS AT 30 DAY NOTICE. THE THE STATE CHANGED THE REGULATIONS RECENTLY AND AS OF JULY 1ST, IT HAS TO SHOW THAT YOU HAVE 50

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NOT. OKAY. AND THEN WE GO DOWN TO THE APPENDIX C, WHICH IS ON THE DRAWINGS AND SPECIFICATIONS.

THE ONLY THING WE UPDATED IS INSTEAD OF STOPPING AT JUST SURVEY, WE ADDED AND OR FOUNDATION SURVEY PROVIDED FROM THE. LET ME READ THE WHOLE THING. JOIN SHALL SHOW THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING OR STRUCTURE AND OF EVERY EXISTING BUILDING OR STRUCTURE ON THE SITE OR LOT. THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR MAY REQUIRE A BOUNDARY LINE SURVEY AND OR A FOUNDATION SURVEY PREPARED BY A LICENSED SURVEYOR. SO THAT WILL THAT WAS FROM OUR LAST MEETING WHEN WE'RE TALKING. SO IT'S A MAY REQUIRE IT'S NOT A MUST RIGHT.

INCLUDE IT. WE LOOKED AT SOME OTHER JURISDICTIONS TOO I GUESS BACK TO OUR POINT. IF YOU HAVE 50 ACRES AND YOU'RE BUILDING IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, THEN YOU KNOW, ARE YOU GOING TO REQUIRE THAT PERSON? NO. SO IT'S A IT'S A MAY AND THAT'S WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS USE BECAUSE I MEAN HAVING A AGAIN, IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE VERY SITE SPECIFIC, LOCATION SPECIFIC. SO LIKE THIS NEW SUBDIVISION WHERE THEY DON'T LIKE THEIR LIVES. SO THEY ARE PROBABLY RIGHT. RIGHT, RIGHT. THE FOUNDATIONS. AND THEN I'LL LET YOU KNOW TOO THAT. WE WENT OVER THIS LIST TOO, WITH THE COMMISSIONERS OF, HEY, WE'RE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH SOME TEXT AMENDMENTS. AND WHEN IT CAME TO THAT FOUNDATION SURVEY. I THINK IT WAS WAS NOT A TUESDAY'S BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. IT WAS THE MEETING BEFORE THAT. I ACTUALLY PRESENTED THIS SAME LIST TO THEM IN THE WORK SESSION. JUST AS AN FYI. WE'RE STARTING TO WORK ON THIS. AND I GUESS BETWEEN THE 9 A.M. WORK SESSION AND THE 5 P.M. MEETING, WHEN THEY CAME BACK, THEY HAD PHONE CALLS FROM DEVELOPERS, BUILDERS, REALTORS. AND SO THEN AT THAT 5:00 MEETING, THEY THEY WANTED TO MAKE A. THEY DID NOT. THEY ARE VERY, VERY CLEAR TO, TO ME THAT, THAT THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE A SHALL THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THAT. OKAY. OKAY. AND THAT'S WHAT I FEEL FOR THE FIRST PERSON THAT COMES IN HERE WITH A MESS UP, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE DOWN THAT $2 MILLION HOUSE. AND OKAY. ON THE SORRY, ON THE SUBDIVISIONS WE CLEANED, WE CLEANED UP THE SECTIONS C .14.3 PROCEDURES FOR MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS. THE APPLICATION FOR FINAL PLAT APPROVAL AFTER PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL AND CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN COMPLETED TO INCLUDE IN CARBON BASE. THE FINAL PLAT SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS MAY THEREAFTER APPROVE OR DENY, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR TABLED OR SUBMITTED FINAL PLAT AND ACCEPT THE PUBLIC ROADS IDENTIFIED ON THE PLAT. SO WE PULLED OUT.

JUST A SMALL PORTION OF IT TO MAKE IT READ THE WAY IT SHOULD. FROM THE LAST ORDINANCE. IT WAS A CLERICAL ERROR. YEAH, THAT'S THINGS PULLED OVER, AND AT THE VERY END WE WERE TASKED BY THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. THEY HAVE PLACED A MORATORIUM ON SEPTEMBER 16TH AS IT REFERENCED DATA CENTERS. THE TASK WAS TO RESEARCH THE INFORMATION ON ALL DATA CENTERS, THAT IS, AND CREATE A DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR REVIEW. SO FAR, WE HAVE COMPILED SOME INFORMATION AND

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RIGHT. BUT AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO LET THEM DO IT. THEY THERE JUST MIGHT END UP BEING AMBIGUITY BETWEEN THE JURISDICTIONS. SO WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE A SMOOTH FLOW. SO WHATEVER WE HAVE HERE IS ALSO BE CONTINUED INTO THE CITY. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED IN TROUP COUNTY AND BE DONE WITH IT. YEAH. HOW ABOUT THAT. SORRY SANDY. YEAH.

YOU'RE BEING RECORDED. YOU'RE BEING RECORDED. NO I KNOW THAT'S THE PROBLEM. SO ALL WE CAN DO IS PUT AN ORDINANCE IN THAT. WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT DOING AN OUTER SPACE, UNINCORPORATED COUNTY WITH THE CITIES DO IS IT'S THEIR JURISDICTION. YEAH. YEAH. AND.

THAT'S ALL WE'RE WORKING ON AN ORDINANCE FOR DATA CENTERS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ONE. SO WE'RE WORKING ON ONE THAT WILL ALSO COME BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD AT A LATER DATE. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. BACK TO THE FIRST ONE ON THAT. WHICH ONE LAND USE FOR ITS COMMERCIAL LIVESTOCK RAISING POULTRY. YES. YEAH. THE WHY IS YES. NO. THE WHY IS A SUPPLEMENTAL THAT IF YOU GO UP THE CHART WHERE YOU SEE S UP THAT MANY HAS SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATION, THERE'S ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS THAT GOVERN THEM. THEY'RE JUST NOT PERMITTED WITHOUT REGULATIONS GOVERNING THEM. SO BASICALLY INDUSTRIAL PARK, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET PERMISSION. RIGHT. SO ARE YOU RAISING CHICKENS? I WOULDN'T PUT MY COWS IN. ARE YOU RAISING CHICKENS? THAT'S WHAT CHICKENS SCALE. YEAH. AND SO WHAT IT MEANS OKAY. SCALE LIKE POULTRY PLACE PERMITTED, WHICH IS WHAT THE P IS. IT'S ONLY PERMITTED IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.

WHAT THE Y MEANS IS THEN YOU GO TO THIS OTHER CHART AND LOOK FOR MORE SPECIFIC RULES. ONE OF THE RULES THAT'S ON IT IS LIKE IT HAS TO BE 300FT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, OR 200FT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THE Y MEANS, YES, THERE'S SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS. IT'S NOT JUST PERMITTED, BUT YOU NEED TO GO LOOK UP WHAT THE REGULATIONS ARE TOO. YEAH. SO THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE MY COWS. NO, SIR. NO MA'AM. SO WHERE DO YOU GO.

WHERE DO YOU GO FROM SOMEBODY RAISING 30 HEAD OF CATTLE ON THEIR AG LAND TO HAVING TO HAVE SUPPLEMENTAL. THAT'S IN AGRICULTURE. THAT'S POULTRY ONLY. OH. RAISING POULTRY. YES.

POULTRY ONLY. CHICKENS. CHICKEN. OKAY. TRYING TO MAKE IT HARD ON THE CHICKEN FARM, BUT MY GRANDKIDS CAN HAVE A FEW CHICKENS IF THEY WANT IT. YES. PROVIDE SHELTER FOR THEM.

THAT'S WHAT WE CALL HOBBY LIVESTOCK RAISING, RIGHT? DON'T VISIT ANY WETLANDS. YEAH, IT'S CRAZY HOW THEY HAVE SOME RULES ON CHICKENS. SO ALRIGHTY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU ALL.

AND I CERTAINLY ENJOYED YESTERDAY. I THINK I GOT SOME GOOD YOU GUYS ENJOYED RUTH HANDLED ALL THAT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. GOOD. YEAH THANK YOU. THAT WAS GOOD. AND. SO WE HAVE TO CLOSE OUT THE MEETING. GOTTA CLOSE OUT THE MEETING. SO MAY I NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MR. CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. THEN YOU HAVE TO HIT THE. ALL RIGHT, HIT THE GAVEL SO THAT THEY KNOW WE'RE CLOSING PUBLIC. MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO MOVED. SECOND.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING? MOTION CARRIES. WE'RE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL RIGHT. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED. W

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