Sep 02, 2025 Board of Commissioners Work Session

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THESE. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. WELCOME, EVERYONE, TO OUR TUESDAY,

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TODAY AFTER A LONG WEEKEND. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING. AT THIS TIME WE HAVE A PRAYER BEFORE WE ALWAYS START OUR MEETINGS. WE'RE VERY HONORED THIS MORNING TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE A LITTLE BIT LATER. BUT MR. RONNIE PERSONS WITH US THIS MORNING, AND HE HAS GIVEN OUR PRAYERS SO MANY TIMES THAT I DON'T WANT TO MISS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW HIM AGAIN THIS MORNING. SO WOULD YOU MIND SAYING OUR PRAYER THIS MORNING? LET USY FATHER, WE COMEUR PRESENCE WITH THANKSGIVING IN OUR HEART. JUST WANT TO SAY. WE COME. PRAY YOUR BLESSING UPON THIS MEETING WITH THE AGENDA. FATHER, WE PRAY YOU BLESS THE DECISION THAT IS MADE HERE TOD BE BENEFID TO PRAY YOU BLESS EACH AND EVERYONE OF THE. THOSE WHO ARE IN RETIREMENT ON THIS AGENDA.

WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THEM IN A NEW CHAPTER AND COVER THEM AS THEY GO IN THE NEW AREA OF THEIR LIFE. AND FATHER, WE PRAY YOU BLESS EACH AND EVERY CITIZEN IN THIS ROOM AND THROUGHOUT THE TROUP COUNTY AREA. AND WE ASK THESE BLESSING YOUR ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, JESUS NAME. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE THIS MORNING. ALRIGHT. NOW WE'LL PROCEED AGENDA. AND SO I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE COUNTY MANAGER. ALRIGHT.

[1. The Richard English, Jr. Strongest Link Award of Excellence(Chardonnay Scott)]

COLLECTION OF HER UNWAVERING DEDICATION TO HER RESPONSIBILITIES AND HER GENUINE PRIDE IN HER WORK ENVIRONMENT. IT IS MY HONOR TO INTRODUCE TO YOU THE RICHARD ENGLISH JUNIOR STRONGEST LINK AWARD OF EXCELLENCE RECIPIENT FOR AUGUST 2025. THE ATTENTION SLASH DETAIL OFFICER WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THE CRITTENDON.

A SURPRISE. YES.THA.

U HAVE ANY FAMILY? WELL I DIDN'T. WE TRULY APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK AND DEDICATION AND LOYALTY THAT YOU HAVE PUT INTO THE TROUP COUNTY. YOU HAVE PROVEN THAT YOU ARE THE STRONGEST LINK. I DO WANT TO SAY AT THIS TIME, A HUGE THANK YOU TO CREATIVE COLLINS. THANK YOU. CARRY ON. GOOD MORNING AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS.

[2. 2025 3rd Quarter Employee Service Awards(Chardonnay Scott)]

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SHEILA SHELTON, TRANSIT DISPATCHER WITH THE COUNTY SHOP. LASTLY, AARON STILLWELL LEE, OFH E-911 COMMUNICATIONS.

CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AULATE LAWHON ALEXANDER. MARCUS BRADY.

WALDREP, AS THEY ALL ARE RECEIVING FIVE YEARS OF SERVICE AND THEY WERE UNABLE TO ATTEND THE CEREMONY. NOW WE WILL BEGIN TO PRESENT THE AWARDS FOR TEN YEARS OF SERVICE. BRANDON OR DEPUTY MARSHAL SLASH CODE ENFORC COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

CONGRATULATIONS, BRANDON. AND AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO SAY A THANK YOU TO CONGRATULATIONS TO HARVEY WILLIAMS WITH THE ROSEN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AS HE RECEIVING TEN YEARS OF SERVICE. AND HE WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THE CEREMONY. NOW WE WILL BEGIN TO PRESENT THE AWARDS FOR 15 YEARS OF SERVICE. VIVIAN KELLY, PERSONAL PROPERTY APPRAISAL SUPERVISOR WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISAL DEPARTMENT.

GOOD TO SEE YOU. BROWN WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, AS HE WAS RECEIVING 15 YEARS OF SERVICE AND HE WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND THE CEREMONY. NOW I WILL BEGIN PRESENTING THE AWARDS FOR 20 YEARS OFST WE HAVE LORI BREWER, THE SHERIFF.

PERSONAL. LEO COMMONS, LIEUTENANT WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. RONNIE PARSON, DEPUTY SHERIFF WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. JEFFREY WALKER, DEPUTY SHERIFF WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. AND LASTLY, JEFFREY WALZ WROTE CONGRATULATIONS. AND TWO. THREE. CONGRATULATIONS,

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WE WILL BEGIN PRESENTING THE AWARD TO MICHAEL HESTER, BATTALION CHIEF WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. SCOTT STARTED HIS CAREER WITH TROUP COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT IN SEPTEMBER OF 1995. THAT'S GIVEN HIM A 30 YEARS OF SERVICE TO DATED THE RANK OF EMT INTERMEDIATEON IN. VOTED TO HIS CURRENT RANK OF BATTALION CHIEF OF NOVEMBER OF 22. SCOTT HAS ACQUIRED MANY CERTIFICATIONS DURING HIS CAREER, INCLUDING FIREFIGHTER ONE AND TWO, INSTRUCTOR ONE, HAZMAT TECH FIRE OFFICER ONE AND TWO, AND HAS BEEN AWARDED A CPR INSTRUCTOR SINCE 2019. HE OBTAINED HIS PILOT'S LICENSE FOR UNMANNED AIRCRAFT IN 2022. SCOTT ALSO SERVES AS OUR MEDICAL OFFICER AND DATA MANAGER. SCOTT AND HIS WIFE, VICTORIA, HAVE FIVE CHILDREN AND SIX GRANDCHILDREN.

CONGRATULATIONS. HIS DAYS OFF ARE SPENT ENJOYING YARD WORK AROUND THE HOUSE AND FLYING DRONES FOR HIS PART TIME BUSINESS. I ALSO WANT TO ADD THAT CHIEF ESTHER IS THE MAIN DRIVING FORCE BEHIND GETTING OUR ANI KITS TOGETHER. HE WAS AWARDED THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH VALOR AWARD IN 2023 FOR HIS PROACTIVE APPROACH IN PROVIDING CPR CLASSES TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, SCOTT.

ONE. TWO. THREE. I COME FROM. THANK YOU. EMT WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

GIVING HIM 30 YEARS OF SERV DATF SERGEANT 2014 AND INTO HIS CURRENT RANK OF LIEUTENANT IN 2024. HE'S ACQUIRED NUMEROUS CERTIFICATIONS, INCLUDING FIREFIGHTER ONE AND TWO, WILDLAND FIREFIGHTER INSTRUCTOR ONE, OFFICER ONE AND TWO AND THREE. HE IS A NASCAR CERTIFIED AND TECH ONE AND TECH TWO INSTRUCTOR. HE ALSO HOLDS MANY CERTIFICATIONS INCLUDING ALL HAZARDS INCIDENTS COMMANDER, AND HE HAS ALSO COMPLETED HIS FIRE SCIENCE DIPLOMA WITH HONORS IN 2001. RUSSELL ALSO SERVES AS OUR COMMUNICATION OFFICER. RUSSELL AND HIS WIFE, LORI HAVE A SON, JACOB, AND HE SPENDS HIS DAYS OFF AROUND THE HOUSE AND IN THE WOODS. RUSSELL ALSO SERVES AS OUR COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER, AND WHENEVER WE HAVE ANY COMMUNICATION ISSUES, HE USUALLY HAS IT TAKEN CARE OF BEFORE ANYONE IS AWARE OF IT.

SO AGAIN, RUSSELL, WE THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE JUDGE DEBORAH WADE, PROBATE JUDGE WITH THE PROBATE COURT IT IS MY HONOR TOESENT JUD

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THANK YOU. NOW. APARTMENT. RUSTY STARTED HIS CAREER WITH THE TROUP COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT IN 1990, GIVING HIM 35 YEARS OF SERVICE TO DATE. HE OBTAINED HIS. HE OBTAINED HIS EMT CERTIFICATION IN 2006 AND HAS ACQUIRED NUMEROUS MPCC CERTIFICATIONS OVER THE YEARS. FIREFIGHTER OVER THE YEARS, INCLUDING FIREFIGHTER ONE AND FIREFIGHTER TWO, HAZMAT INCIDENTAND MANY OTR CURRENTLY SERVES AS CHAPLAIN. SERVING AS THE ASSOCIATE PASTOR AT NEW RIVER CHURCH HERE IN LAGRANGE, AS WELL AS MANY OTHER PASTORAL DUTIES. RUSTY'S POSITIVE ATTITUDE MAKES HIM A GREAT MENTOR AND ROLE MODEL FOR ALL OUR NEW FIREFIGHTERS, AND WE APPRECIATE ALL HE CONTRIBUTES. THANK YOU RUSTY.

LASTLY, WE HAVE JULIAN O'NEILL, PARKS MAINTENANCE WORKER WITH. HONORED TO DO THIS TODAY.

JULIAN DARREN O'NEILL WAS BORN AND RAISED IN TROUP COUNTY. HE'S A GRADUATE OF TROUP COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL, WHERE HE STARRED IN BOTH BASEBALL AND FOOTBALL. AT THE AGE OF 19, DARREN WAS HIRED AS A ROOKIE THEN CHIEF TIE SERVED THE CITIZENS. AS A PLAYER AND A COACH, AND TROUP COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION, AND IN 2016, DARREN DECIDED TO TRANSFER TO THE MAINTENANCE DIVISION OF THE TROUP COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. HE SERVED NINE YEARS IN THIS CAPACITY, AND HE OFFICIALLY RETIRED LAST MONTH WITH A TOTAL OF 35 YEARS SERVICE. HE IS HAPPILY MARRIED TO MICHELLE AND TOGETHER THEY HAVE THREE DAUGHTERS AND FIVE GRANDCHILDREN. HIS FAMILY NO LONGER HAS TO FIGHT FOR TIME WITH DARREN, BUT THOSE OF US KNOW THAT HIS FAMILY STILL MUST FIGHT THE BATTLE FOR TIME. FROM HIS TRUE LOVES OF HIS LIFE, HUNTING AND FISHING. IF NOT WITH FAMILY, YOU CAN ALWAYS LOOK FOR DARREN IN THE WOODS OR ON LAKE WEST POINT AT ONE OF HIS FAVORITE CRAPPIE HOLES. DARREN'S BEEN GONE A MONTH. HE HAS ALREADY BEING MISSED, NOT JUST FOR THE LABOR THAT HE PUT IN THAT GOES UNSEEN FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS OF TROUP COUNTY, BUT WE REALLY MISS HIS POSITIVE ATTITUDE HE BROUGHT TO WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY. HE WAS ALWAYS A DELIGHT TO BE WITH AND HE WAS ALWAYS HAPPY TO BE THERE. AND I'M PROUD TO HAVE HIM AS A FRIEND AND AS A WORKER. THANK YOU DARREN. ONE. TWO. THREE.

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TREES HAVE SERVED AS THE TRUE COUNT. OKAY. NOW CAME UP WITH 385 YEARS OF TOTAL SERVICE. AND THOSE THAT SAID THEY WERE HIRED, 95 I DID. I GUESS YOU BELIEVE 30 YEARS WOULDN'T GET HERE QUITE THAT SOON. BUT BUT AGAIN, THAT REPRESENTS 385 YEARS, ALMOST FOUR CENTURIES OF SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF TROUP COUNTY. SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH, AND I HOPE YOU ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY. THANK YOU.

OKAY. GOOD.

[3. Discuss Tatum School Property Agreement(Eric Mosley)]

THEN THE COUNTY WOULD WOULD CONVEY BACK TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AN EASEMENT. A PERPETUAL EASEMENT WON'T GO AWAY TO AN AREA SUFFICIENT FOR THEM TO PARK 15 SCHOOL BUSSES AND TO PLACE A FUEL STATION. THEY WOULD ALSO INCLUDE, OBVIOUSLY, ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY. I THINK

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WE'RE NOT PLACING ONE. WE'RE JUST SETTING ASIDE SOME ROOMS ON ON THE SITE FOR A FUEL CENTER. IF THEY WANTED TO FUEL THE BUSSES UP IN THAT PORTION OF COUNTY. POINT ONCE, ONCE WE CONVEY THE EASEMENT TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, THEY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT EASEMENT AREA AND HAVE CONTROL OVER THE EASEMENT AREA. EACH PARTY WILL AGREE TO ENSURE ITS OWN RESPECTIVE PORTIONS OF THE PREMISES. THEY WOULD ENSURE THE EASEMENT AREA. THE COUNTY WOULD ENSURE THE BALANCE OF THE PROPERTY THAT IT GETS IN FREE. SIMPLE AND THERE WOULD BE A STANDARD MUTUAL INDEMNIFICATION BETWEEN PARTIES. THAT'S BASICALLY IT. IT'S IT'S AS AGREEMENTS GO, IT'S PRETTY SHORT. I THINK. IT'S A COUPLE PAGES. WE ARE JUST WAITING, I THINK NOW FOR THE SCHOOL. TO SCHOOL SYSTEM TO SIGN OFF ON THE FINAL, LAST CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THEM. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WILL GET ANY FEEDBACK FROM FROM THEM PRIOR TO THIS EVENING, BUT I THINK WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A, A REVISED VERSION STILL WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD TONIGHT, TO SEND BACK TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AS THE COUNTY'S PROPOSED AGREEMENT. IN RESPONSE TO THEIR RIGHT. WE BELIEVE I READ IT RIGHT. WE BELIEVE THE GRAVEL, THEY'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING IT ONCE ONCE WE ONCE WE BUILD THAT PORTION OF IT. I ASK ONE QUESTION. IT IN THE EVENT THEY DO PUT A FUELING STATION ON THERE AND IN AS FAR AS CONCERNS ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, THEY WOULD BE LIABLE. I MEAN, WE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING THAT WOULD PROTECT US IF THERE WERE AN ISSUE ENVIRONMENTALLY ON ON THAT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. I WOULD SAY THAT IF IF THAT WERE TO OCCUR, THEY WERE TALKING TO US, THEY WOULD NEED TO BE A STANDALONE AGREEMENT FOR THAT SPECIFICALLY, BECAUSE, AGAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DOCTOR HAZEL MENTIONED WAS THE IDEA WITH THE COUNTY, BE INTERESTED IN SHARING IN THAT FUEL STATION, WHICH WE LIKE. BUT AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE A STANDALONE AGREEMENT SET ASIDE FOR THIS SEPARATE TIME. SO YES. OKAY. WHEN YOU DO THAT FUEL STATION, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A PAD FOR THAT START. I THINK WHAT WILL HAPPEN PROBABLY I THINK WE'VE JUST AS WE LOOKED BEFORE, BACK WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT FUEL STATION, WAS NOW YOU CAN JUST ABOUT DROP THEM IN ON PLACE, DROP THEM IN PLACE. AND SO OBVIOUSLY THERE WON'T BE ANY UNDERGROUND TANKS. THESE WOULD BE WOULD BE ELEVATED TANKS. BUT YEAH, THERE WOULD BE SOME SORT OF A MITIGATING FASHION. AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS VERY SPECULATIVE IN MY OPINION. THIS IS LIKE MORE OF A MORE OF A WHAT IF THAN A THAN A THAN A WILL DO WE GO AHEAD, PUT IT ON A CONCRETE BED. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP I'LL INVITE, I GUESS, LANCE AND OR DENISE.

[4. Discuss Georgia DNR LWCF Grant: Approval of Grant Award & Resolution Adoption]

WE WOULD PAY THE OTHER 350. IT WAS A MATCHING GRANT, UP TO 700,000. I WANT TO THANK DENISE FOR ALL HER HARD WORK ON THIS AND EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO GO WITH GRANTS. THAT'S SOME TEDIOUS PAPERWORK AND STUFF THAT YOU HAVE TO DO THAT I'M GLAD SOMEBODY IS DOING THAT OTHER THAN ME, BUT THANK HER VERY MUCH FOR HER HARD WORK ON ALL THAT. WE WOULDN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO HAVE THESE GRANTS AND STUFF IF WE DID NOT. SO WHAT WE'LL COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS ASK FOR PERMISSION TO ADOPT THE GRANT AND ACCEPT IT, AND THEN GIVE PATRICK PERMISSION AS THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE FINAL RESOLUTION ONCE IT COMES THROUGH, TO SIGN OFF ON IT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE THE GRANT WILL GO. IT'LL BE FOR AN ADAPTIVE PLAYGROUND.

THIS IS MY PLAN FOR THIS. UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE OTHER THOUGHTS OPTIONS ON IT. KNOWING THAT IT'S 700,350 FROM US HAS ALREADY BEEN EARMARKED FROM SPLOST FIVE. WE PUT THAT ASIDE

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THE BEST PLAYGROUND YOU CAN DO FOR THAT. GET A BOARD AND SAY, THIS IS THE BEST ONE FOR US, AND THEN WE'LL PICK THAT WAY, LEAVING THE EXTRA 75,000 FOR THE STUFF WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE LATER. FROM BENCHES TO TRASH CANS TO ANY LANDSCAPING AROUND THE EXTERIOR AND STUFF LIKE THAT, I JUST SO THERE'S NO CHANCE OF US GOING OVER A BUDGET OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE $625,000. GIVE ME A PROPOSAL, WHAT YOU WILL BUILD FOR THAT, AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH AND GET A COMMITTEE TOGETHER AND LET THEM DECIDE WHICH ONE BEST FITS THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS OF TROUP COUNTY. YOU MIGHT EXPLAIN ADAPTIVE. ADAPTIVE. SO LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE GET GET INTO THE LIKE ADA PLAYGROUND, THEY TRY TO STAY AN ADA PLAYGROUND. TECHNICALLY EVERY PLAYGROUND IS SUPPOSED TO BE ADA. AND ADA SAID THE ADAPTIVE PLAYGROUND WILL BE COMPLETE ACCESSIBILITY FOR ANY TYPE HANDICAP AS FAR AS WHEELCHAIRS CAN ROLL THROUGH IT. I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS I'M GOING TO PUSH FOR IS THE SWING SETS, WHERE YOU CAN HOOK A WHEELCHAIR TO IT AND THEY CAN SWING. THEY'LL HAVE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE PLAYGROUND, LIKE MAYBE THE LITTLE THINGS THAT SPIN IN CIRCLES, WHERE WHEELCHAIR CAN GET ON THAT THING AND SPIN AND CHILDREN OF ALL, YOU KNOW, STAGES IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT, FROM DISABLED TO PERFECTLY HEALTHY, CAN ALL PARTICIPATE AND PLAY TOGETHER IN ONE ENVIRONMENT. SO YOU SAID THIS WAS BROUGHT ABOUT IN 2024. SO WHEN THE GRANT WAS PROPOSED, THERE'S NOT A CERTAIN PLAN THAT WAS GIVEN TO IT. SO WE'RE KIND OF AT A WE GAVE THEM SOME TENTATIVE SPECULATION THAT KNOWING THAT WE COULD NOT GIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT. SO WE JUST KNEW IT HAD TO BE AN ADAPTIVE PLAYGROUND OUT TO AROUND 700,000. I'M SURE IF WE WENT 600,000, THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO GIVE US 300,000. SO WE WERE TRYING TO GET RIGHT AT THAT 700,000 TO APPEASE WHAT THEY WANTED FOR THE GRANT. AND THEN, LIKE I SAY, WE'LL BID IT OUT TO TRY TO GET THE BEST PLAYGROUND WE CAN FOR THE MONEY WE HAVE AND NOT TRY TO GET A DESIGN AND THEN SAY, OH, IT COSTS MORE WHEN WE GOT BACK OR THIS COST MORE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SAY, WHAT CAN YOU BUILD US FOR THIS? LET EVERY COMPANY THAT WANTS TO BID ON IT GIVE US A PLAN AND DESIGN AND AND THEN WE'LL CHOOSE THE BEST ONE. SO WE'LL JUST TELL THEM WHAT WE KIND OF LOOKING FOR. THEY WILL TELL THEM WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND WHAT WE HAVE TO SPEND DOES IT. AND NO, THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMPETING AGAINST 4 OR 5 OTHER COMPANIES THAT ARE TRYING TO PUT AS MUCH AS THEY CAN IN FOR THAT AMOUNT, AND THEN WE'LL PICK THE BEST ONE THAT WE CAN CAN GO WITH. AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH IT. IF YOU GUYS HAVE OTHER PLANS OR OPTIONS, WE'RE FINE TO LISTEN. WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO. LET ME ALSO JUST ADD THIS IS THIS IS A FEDERAL PASS. SOFEDERAL MONEY. SO WHATEVER BIDDING PROCESS THAT IS USED OR. BY THE DNR AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. YEAH. SO WHAT'S THE TIMELINE TO DO THIS PROJECT. TAKE. BUT I DON'T EVEN VENTURE INTO STARTING IT UNTIL I. CHANCE OF THIS, YOU KNOW, TRUCKS MOVING THIS AND THAT IN AND MESSING. WE COULD GO AHEAD AND GET OUR DUCKS IN A ROW, START HAVING EVERYTHING LAID OUT, THE PLANS, THE BIDS, SO THAT THEY COULD START SOMETIME AROUND DECEMBER OR JANUARY AND HAVE IT READY FOR THE NEXT SPRING. BUT IT'S LIKE IT'S NOT A RUSH OR ANYTHING ON ANY OF IT. AND OUR PORTION OF THE MONEY THAT WE PUT CORRECT FOR THIS PLAYGROUND, FOR THIS PLAYGROUND, IF WE IF WE WON THE BID, IT WAS SET ASIDE FOR THAT. AND THIS WOULD BE THE ONLY ADAPTIVE PLAYGROUND THAT COUNTY PARKS AND REC OPERATES, RIGHT? CORRECT.

CORRECT. THERE'S FOUR. THEY WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE IN THE COUNTY THAT IS 100% ADAPTIVE.

THERE ARE SOME OTHERS THAT THEY PUT SOME ADAPTIVE STUFF IN THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY BUILT ONE THAT HAS SOME PARTS THAT ARE ADAPTIVE AND SOME PARTS THAT ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, BUT THIS WOULD BE THE ENTIRE PLAYGROUND WOULD FALL UNDER THAT CATEGORY. LIKE I SAY, I'M WE'RE UNDER THE THOUGHT PROCESSES. I WANT EVERY PERSON THAT LIVES IN TROUP COUNTY TO BE ACTIVE, NO MATTER AGE, NO MATTER SOCIOECONOMIC BACKGROUND, NO MATTER GENDER, RACE, NO MATTER PHYSICAL ABILITY, ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO KEEP PEOPLE ACTIVE. THAT'S WHAT I'M PUSHING FOR. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT I DO

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[6. Discuss Troup County Shop Truck Replacement(Glenn Downs)]

NOTHING REALLY HEAVY. THAT IS ABOUT IT. I'VE GOT KIND OF SHORT AND SWEET, IF YOU WILL, ON THIS ONE. THE QUOTES I HAVE ARE FOR MY FORD DEALERSHIP 44,000, WHICH IS A GOVERNMENT CONTRACT PRICE. CHEVROLET IS 38 623 AND TOYOTA TACOMA IS 42 389. I'M RECOMMENDING THE 2025 TOYOTA TACOMA 42 389. IT WILL COME WITH A THREE YEAR, 36,000 MILE WARRANTY FOR FIVE YEARS.

60,000 DRIVE TRAIN WARRANTY FOUR YEARS OR 45,000 MILES WITH FREE SERVICE, IF YOU WILL, AND NO COST, OF COURSE, TO THE COUNTY FUEL ECONOMY. AND THEN JUST I'M RECOMMENDING JUST FOR THE LONGEVITY OF THE TRUCK BRAND. SO THAT'S IS THIS A WORK TRUCK? THIS WOULD BE A WORK TRUCK TAKING THE PLACE OF THE I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CAB. THE THIS IS A FOUR DOOR CAB. YEAH.

WITH A SIX FOOT BED, I THINK FIVE AND A HALF SIX FOOT BED, BUT IT'S CONSIDERED A WORK TRUCK ON THE INSIDE AND NOT A LUXURY TYPE TRUCK. IS THAT CORRECT? I'VE SEEN THE TRUCK. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A A WORK TRUCK. TO ME, IT'S PRETTY PLAIN. THIS ONE IS PRETTY PLAIN, CONSIDERING WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO THE CHEVROLETS AND SO FORTH. THEY WORK. TRUCK IS WELL, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO HOW TO DESCRIBE THAT. THEY MAKE A WORK TRUCK TOO. SO THE CHEVROLET LET ME JUST SAY THIS. THE CHEVROLET TRUCKS WE PURCHASED RECENTLY, I WAS SURPRISED AT WHAT A WORK TRUCK LOOKS LIKE NOW. AND EVERYONE MAY BE THE WORK TRUCK, THE CRANK WINDOWS AND ALL THAT.

BASICALLY, IT'S GONE AWAY IN MY OPINION, AND WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S A WORK TRUCK. I MEAN, SO IS THE TOYOTA TACOMA A USED VEHICLE OR IS IT NEW? NO, THIS WOULD BE NEW. YEAH OKAY. OKAY. QUESTIONS. SO YOU SAID THE 99, THE F2. WHAT WHAT'S IT USED FOR? MAINLY RIGHT NOW WE ARE RUNNING PARTS FOR IT. WE HAUL TRASH. WE KEEP IT PRETTY MUCH IF WE HAVE TO RUN, THE WE RUN IT TO IS COLUMBUS. IF WE HAD TO TO YANCY DOWN IN THAT AREA. BUT IT'S BASICALLY RUN PARTS IF YOU WILL. WE TAKE PEOPLE TO PICK UP CARS, SWAP CARS AND SO FORTH AND SO ON. IT'S JUST THE 99 IS ON ITS LAST LEG, IN MY OPINION. IF WE DON'T REALLY LOAN IT OUT BECAUSE WE KIND OF KNOW HOW TO DRIVE IT, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE AT ALL. GOTCHA. OKAY.

QUESTIONS? OKAY. SURE. ALL RIGHT. OH I'M SORRY. THE NEXT ITEM IS GOING TO BE A LIFT OR

[7. DiscussTroup County Shop Lift / Jack Replacement(Glenn Downs)]

CURRENTLY IT'S ESTIMATED TO BE 25 TO 30 YEARS OLD. IT'S A 15,000 POUND CAPACITY. IT PRESENTLY IF YOU WILL. WE'LL SEE PICTURES IN A MINUTE. IT BECOMES OUT OF BALANCE WITH THE TYPE OF VEHICLES WE HAVE NOW MOVING WITH THE NEWER TYPE VEHICLES AND TRUCKS, THE STYLE LIFT CANNOT BE USED TO ITS FULL CAPACITY ANYMORE, AND IT REALLY IS STARTING TO POSE A SAFETY ISSUE SAFETY HAZARD TO THE EMPLOYEES. SO IF WE COULD DENNIS, BASICALLY THAT IS THE THE PRESENT LIFT ON HAND. IF YOU NOTICE IT'S JUST A TWO LEG IF YOU WILL. NEXT IF YOU WOULD AND I'M CIRCLING OUT WHAT I'M INDICATING. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER SECOND PICTURE OF THE JACK THAT'S QUESTIONED TO BE REPLACED. IF YOU NOTICE I GUESS YOU DON'T. YOU'RE LOOKING AT IF

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THE FRONT IS PROBABLY GOT EITHER FLUSH OR IT'S ABOUT A MAYBE A FOUR INCH ADAPTER OKAY.

OKAY. SAME SAME THING HERE. THE QUESTION THIS TRUCK RIGHT IS WHAT WE'RE KIND OF GETTING TO A WORK TRUCK. SAME THING WITH THE EXTENSION. THIS TRUCK WEIGHS 12,500 POUNDS. AND THERE AGAIN THAT'S AS FAR AS WE CAN LIFT THAT TRUCK. WE WILL NOT GO ANY ANY FURTHER AT ALL. OKAY. NEXT FEW WITH DENNIS TRANSIT VAN IF YOU NOTICE THE BACK, WE'RE PROBABLY TEN FEET TO THE BACKSIDE FROM WHERE THE ADAPTERS ARE THERE. AGAIN, THE ADAPTERS HAVE TO BE WE JUST KIND OF BOUNCE IT OUT. OKAY. THIS CURRENT JACK, WHEN THE TRUCKS LIKE THIS THE VAN, WE CANNOT OPEN DOORS. WE HAVE TO SQUEEZE. SOMEBODY LIKE ME HAS A HARD TIME SQUEEZING IN, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. OUR RESPECT. OKAY. SAME DIFFERENCE ON THAT. HOW YOU SEE THE REAL CLOSE TOGETHER. OKAY THEN MOVING ON. THIS IS THE LIFT OR JACK THAT I'M PROPOSING IS FOR IF YOU WILL. IT'S A IT'S A DRIVE ON. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE ON IT. IT WOULD HAVE JACKS THAT THAT GO THROUGH THE RAIL IF YOU WILL, THE RIGHT ON THE RAIL. AND WE CAN LIFT THAT TRUCK UP. IF YOU NOTICE THAT TRUCK IS COMPLETELY OFF THE THE LIFT, IF YOU WILL, IF YOU WILL LEAVE IT RIGHT THERE AND THEN THIS WOULD BE ACTUALLY A 15 TON OR 30,000 POUND JACK, WHICH WOULD LIFT UP EVERYTHING WE NEEDED IN A SAFE FASHION, IF YOU WILL. THE MOBILE JACKS, LIKE I SAID, ARE THERE IN THE RAIL TO GO BACK AND FORTH. IT WILL HAVE WORK LIGHTS UNDERNEATH IT. IT ELIMINATES THE THE NARROWNESS OF THE THE PRESENT JACK. IT LIFTS UP SAFELY ON ALL FOUR POINTS. IT ELIMINATES ANY, IF YOUCURRENT SE HAVE WITH THE OTHER JA. OKAY.

AND WE HAD FOUR ESTIMATES IF YOU WILL. A SELLS HEAVY DUTY LIFT WAS 80,009 64. I'M RECOMMENDING THAT WE USE THE MOHAWK COMPANY TO INSTALL THIS BASED ON BELIEVE. THEY CAN TELL ME THEY PART WITH. THEY WERE PART OF THE ORIGINAL JACKS BEING INSTALLED, BUT THIS COMPANY ALSO IS THE ONLY ONES THAT CAME OUT AND ACTUALLY DID AN ON SITE VIEW OF EVERYTHING.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE THE ARNIE SALES AND 77 AND THE MOHAWK LIFT. 132 IT'S THE SAME.

IT'S THE SAME JACK, SAME SAME JACK. AND I'M SORRY, ARNIE WAS A MO MOHAWK, I BELIEVE. JUST DIFFERENT BRANDS, SAME SAME DESIGN, SAME REASONING AND SO FORTH. WHAT'S THE REASONING TO TO GO WITH THE. MY REASONING WOULD BE THAT THIS COMPANY RIGHT NOW IS THE ONLY COMPANY THAT CAN. HEAVY LIFT, WAS THE ONLY COMPANY THAT CAME OUT AND GAVE US AN ON SITE VIEW AND ESTIMATE. OUT HERE THAT. CORRECT? CORRECT. HE'S ASKING ABOUT A AND I OKAY. SO ALL THESE ARE MOHAWK. THIS ONE IS A ROTARY AND THE OTHER TWO ARE MOHAWKS. THE STYLE AND THE DESIGN IS THE SAME. SO THE HEAVY DUTY THE LIFT COMPANY AND THE MOHAWK ARE THE SAME, JUST A DIFFERENT. AND I WOULD BE DIFFERENT. YES, SIR. OKAY. THEY ALL HAVE A 30,000 POUND CAPACITY. THESE GO BACK TO 30,000. YES, SIR. THE NEW NEW ONES WOULD BE 30,000. THE ORIGINAL IS 15. 15,000. YEAH. ALL THREE? YES. OKAY. SO TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE, YOU'RE YOU'RE MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION FORE T 80,009 6424. 37,000. THAT'S WHAT YOUR PICTURE SHOWING A ROTARY LIFT. I'M USING THIS ONE. I'M SORRY. I'M USING THIS PICTURE AS A Y THAT'S A

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AND WHAT KIND OF JUST A BALLPARK FIGURE? IT'D HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF VALUE WHEN YOU REPLACE IT. SO WHAT DO YOU THINK WE CAN SELL THAT ON? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VALUE WOULD BE, BUT WE COULD SELL THAT JUST LIKE WE DO. I KNOW, BUT THE THE COMPANY THAT CAME IN THERE THAT LOOKED AT IT, THEY DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. OKAY. NO TRAINING OR ANYTHING. OKAY.

THAT'S A GOOD THOUGHT. I MEAN SURE, A TRADE IN VALUE FROM THE COMPANY, THEY COULD SELL IT OVERSEAS OR SOMETHING POSSIBLY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER? THAT? YOU WARRANTIESFE OF THEM? OH, ID HAVE TO COME FROM CAPITAL FUND. YES, SIR. AND THE TRUCK THAT IT IS COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND IS THAT. YOU KNOW. SO IT WAS ALREADY IN THAT. BUDGET. GOTCHA. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL TAKE THOSE UP TONIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHT. NEXT WE'LL INVITE OUR

[8. Discuss Pod A Control Boards(Chief Jon Whitney, Brian Shirey)]

GOOD MORROW. MORNING. I'M NOT SURE YET. SURELY NOT.ACT OF GOD HAPPENED. WE HAD A LIGHTNING STRIKE. WE HAD SHARI GOT WITH A LOCAL COMPANY. I THINK IT WAS IDEAL TO COME IN AND LOOK AT IT, TO LOOK AT THE SCOPE OF WORK AND TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING HAD ACTUALLY FRIED.

THAT CAN DO THIS SCOPE OF WORK. ONE'S A LOCAL COMPANY. BRYANT. THEY SAID, THANK YOU, BUT WE CAN'T DO IT. ANOTHER ONE WE SENT TO WAS OUT OF SUWANEE, GEORGIA. THEY QUOTED US FOR 155,600. AND THEN WE SENT THE OTHER QUOTE WAS FROM EMTS OUT OF GREENVILLE, ALABAMA. THAT CAN DO IT FOR 114 600. SO WE SENT THAT TO THE INSURANCE ADJUSTER. THEY'VE ALREADY CUT US A CHECK FOR 79 GRAND TOWARDS THE 114 600. QUOTE. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS 79 172.

THERE'S BEEN A CHECK ALREADY CUT AFTER THE SCOPE OF THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE. 20 GRAND, WHICH WILL BE GET TO YOU TO 99 800. AND THEN OUR DEDUCTIBLE IS 15 GRAND OUT OF THAT, WHICH WILL GIVE US 114 800. IN THE SCOPE OF THE WORK IS 114 600. SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS THAT WE PULL FROM OUR SPLOST FIVE, WHICH WE HAVE A MINIMUM OF 108 16 IN THERE, $100,816 TO USE THAT DEDUCTIBLE COVERAGE FOR THE 15 GRAND. AND THEN WE MAKE IT HAPPEN. SO PRETTY MUCH MADE THE DECISION OF WHAT VENDOR WE WERE GOING WITH WITH THE 79 GRAND TOURS. SO THERE'S $200 THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PAY US A LITTLE MORE THAT THAT WE CAN UTILIZE FOR. BUT THAT THAT'S MY REQUEST. WE LOOKED AT THE THE EMTS. ONE IS GIVEN US WHAT WE NEED FOR SURE, THE SWC, THEY WERE ADDING A

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THEY NEED TO GET THE EXERCISE AND WALK AROUND AND UTILIZE THAT STUFF. SO BUT IT'S AN ADDITIONAL ADDED SECURITY THING. JAIL WAS ROUGHLY BUILT. WHAT, 96. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.

SO THIS IS AN ORIGINAL PANEL THAT WAS IN THE WAS IN THE JAIL. SO IT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO UPGRADE. SO MY REQUEST IS THAT WE PULL FROM SPOTS 5 TO 15,000 DEDUCTIBLE TO COVER THAT. THIS IS REALLY ONE OF THE FIRST APPLICATIONS OF OUR NEW COVERAGE. AND I WAS PRETTY IMPRESSED HOW QUICKLY THEY RESPONDED TO US AND AND SUPPORTED US. CORRECT. OKAY.

BECAUSE IT HAPPENED JULY 10TH IS WHEN IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED. SO ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL

[9. Discuss Inmate Food Service(Major Jeff Duran)]

AND THEN THERE'S A THERE'S A CLAUSE IN THERE FOR SPECIAL DIETS. YOU KNOW, SOME INMATES FOR RELIGIOUS REASONS, NUTRITIONAL, YOU KNOW, MEDICAL REASONS, THEY THEY CAN'T EAT CERTAIN THINGS. SO THEY WOULD BE A SPECIAL, YOU KNOW, INCREASE FOR THAT. AND THOSE ARE WHAT VERY RARE, I THINK. CURRENTLY HAVE ONE. YEAH. CURRENTLY WE HAVE ONE NOT AN ISSUE. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE LOOKED AT IN THIS CONTRACT WAS WE AGREE AS A COUNTY TO HAVE TEN INMATES, WHICH IS NOT IT'S NEVER AN ISSUE. WE HAVE PLENTY OF INMATES TO PROVIDE TO HELP RUN THE KITCHEN. OF COURSE, IF WE EVER WENT BELOW THAT NUMBER, THEN THAT WOULD MEAN SKILLET KITCHEN WOULD HAVE TO ADD HELP. OF COURSE THAT WOULD INCREASE, BUT WE DON'T FORESEE THAT AS BEING AN ISSUE AT ALL. IT NEVER HAS BEEN SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE. SO TRYING TO THINK OF SOME OF THE OTHER. ISSUES WE HAD TO ADD IN A CLAUSE WHERE THEY'LL HAVE TO TURN IN A

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AND SO ANY ANY INCREASES FROM HERE GOING FORWARD, THEY WOULD GET CONTRACTOR SUPPLY LISTS SHOWING. THIS IS WHY JUSTIFYING THAT INCREASE. SO WE CAN HAVE HARD NUMBERS TO LOOK AT OKAY.

IT'S GOING UP. AND THAT NUMBER 6.1 IS UP TO THAT. SO IF IT GOES UP IT COULD GO UP 3 TO 4% IS MY UNDERSTANDING. BUT THEY WOULD DEFINITELY JUSTIFY THOSE NUMBERS SHOULD THAT HAPPEN. YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT A QUARTERLY REVIEW QUARTERLY REVIEW OKAY. SO AND THAT'S THE SERVICE THAT WOULD LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON DURING THAT DURING THAT QUARTER.

ARE WE HAPPY WITH THE SERVICES. IS IS THEYOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY IT'S GOING TO BE.

AND AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THERE'S. ONCE A YEAR AROUND THE EARLY PART. THAT'S WHY I HAD THEM ADD THAT IN MARCH OF EVERY YEAR. YES.. HERE FOR THAT. AND RELOCATED DOWN TO THE WESTERN AREA RIGHT AT THAT. THAT I THINK THE COMMISSARY AND THE FOOD IS IN TWO DIFFERENT BUILDINGS.S THAT RIGHT? THAT'S ALL. THAT ALL IN ONE. OKAY. HAVE WE EVER HAD A SITUATION? LOST OUR ENTIRET ONEY ACTUALLY COOKED OFFSITE AND BROUGHT IT TO US. YEAH, THEY THEY WERE ABLE TO HANDLE IT LOCALLY AND THEN JUST SHIP THE FOOD THERE INSTEAD OF US GOING TO MCDONALD'S OR BURGER KING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU CAN'T DO IT FOR $1.43. NO. AND YOU AND IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE. YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE JAILSU'VE GE THAT, OURS IS NOT ONE OF THEM.

WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE IN OUR JAIL THAN THEY DO. SO I THINK IT'S HARD UNLESS YOU GO DOWN THERE AND SEE IT AND AND ENVISION IT. IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE TRYING TO FEED UPWARDS OF 650 INMATES MCDONALD'S MEALS. IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE. YOU CAN'T GO GET THREE ORDERS, RIGHT? MUCH LESS 650. WHY DON'T YOU JUST GIVE THEM CAN WE, THE COUNTY, SOME OUR INMATES, WE HAVE LOT EASIEI THINK RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT 35 INMATES. THAT NUMBER IS KIND OF FLUID, BUT I WOULD SAY AROUND 46 TO 48 UP THERE, WHICH KIND OF HELPS SPREAD THEM OUT A LITTLE BIT. THANK GOD FOR THAT.

AND LIKE HE MENTIONED COVID, IF WE HAD NOT HAD THAT DURING COVID, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'D HAVE DONE BECAUSE YOU ALREADY GOT A CLASSIFY THEM BY, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE IN A CERTAIN GANG MEMBER, DO THEY HAVE ENEMIES OR THEY CO-DEFENDANTS? I MEAN, THERE'S SO M CHARGES YOU DON'T WANTP IN WITH A WO, SO TO SPEAK THAT. ONE OF THEM WAS I REMEMBER KALE WELL, SPECIFICALLY THEY. IT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE. ALL I HAVE TO DO IS MAKE A CALL AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT TEAM MEMBER IT GETS TO AT KIMBALL'S OR TURNKEY, WHICHEVER I'VE HAVE. ALL OF THEM KNOW, AND THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY THAT SHOWS UP FAST, AND SOMETIMES IT'S 2 OR 3 PEOPLE. WHENEVER WE HAVE ANY TYPE OF ISSUE WITH THE KITCHEN, WHERE IS IT? KITCHENS HEADQUARTERS NOW? WISCONSIN. RIGHT. THE ACTUAL HEADQUARTERS IS IN WISCONSIN, BUT THEY HAVE EVERYBODY'S HERE THAT WE DEAL WITH LOCALLY. I THINK THEY HAVE LIKE 150 EMPLOYEES HERE, HERE. AND THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN VERY GOOD

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LANGUAGE HAS BEEN CHANGED. WITH THE KEY TERMS. KIND OF LIKE I DID WITH THE TATUM AGREEMENT FOR THE CONTRACT. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO TALK ABOUT IS JUST SOME OF THE MAIN AREAS. I MEAN, IT'S SEVEN PAGES, BUT THOSE WERE SOME OF OUR, I THINK SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT MARK DIDN'T LIKE AND OR DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, FEEL LIKE WAS IN OUR BEST INTEREST WAS CHANGED. AND AND CAN I JUST SAY SOMETHING? THANK YOU, RAMONA, ON THIS. I JUST WANTED TO I MEANT TO ADD THAT IN THERE AND AND MARK AND ERIC. OF THIS NATURE, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A LOT OF HANDS IN IT TO, TO HELP WITH IT. YOU WANT ME T EITHER WAY? DID Y'ALL MAKE THE WE? PULL STAFF ACTUALLY GRANTS CERTAIN DIETS FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE DIABETES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND I, I GRANT ALL RELIGIOUS STUFF. I KIND OF WEIGH IT TO SEE. AND THAT'S RIGHT. CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY ABNORMAL MEAL WE HAVE IS A KOSHER DIET. ONE OF THE THINGS I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED TO YOU IS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE CERTAIN RIGHTS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE 14TH AMENDMENT, THERE'S THE EIGHTH AMENDMENT. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT INMATES AND THEY HAVE CERTAIN RIGHTS OF AND FEEDING IS ONE OF THEM. AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN NUTRITIONAL VALUES THAT YOU HAVE TO MEET. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT EXACT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT'S KILLING KITCHEN DOES IS MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET THE PROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF CALORIES THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE. THERE'S JUST A LOT OF LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT YOU PROBABLY DON'T THINK ABOUT. THAT'S IMPORTANT WHEN IT COMES TO FOOD SERVICE BECAUSE FACTORED IN, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE PASSED THE BUDGET BACK IN JU WHAT DOLLAR AMOUNT W TO BE AO YEAHE ALREADY WE'RE PUSH. 23. WHAT'S THE TOTAL COST FOR INMATE FOOD SERVICES IN IN YOUR YEARLY BUDGET? I CAN TELL YOU WHAT IT IS A WEEK. IT'S ABOUT $19,000 A WEEK RIGHT NOW WITH THE CURRENT INMATES THAT WE HAVE. IT WOULD YEAH, IT WOULD FLUCTUATE A LITTLE BIT DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF INMATES BECAUSE IT'S COST PER TRAY. I DON'T NORMALLY SEE THAT AS IT BROKEN DOWN INTO. I GET IT EVERY WEEK AND I HAVE TO SEND IT OVER TO TASHA, WHICH SENDS IT TO RAMONA TO BE PAID. BUT I CAN ONLY GO BY WHAT I SEE EVERY WEEK. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANNUAL COST IS AT ALL. SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF YOU DID JUST NOT DO THOUSANDS OF MEALS? OKAY, YEAH, I DID $0.10 A MEAL 600 TIMES THREE AND I GOT $180 A DAY, RIGHT? CERTAINLY. I CAN CERTAINLY TAKE CARE OF INMATES ARE SOME OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE THING TO DO.

OBVIOUSLY IN TROUP COUNTY GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT A DOUBT, DO. $0.10, $19,000 A WEEK. I THINK THAT IS TOTALLY BUDGET $19,000 A WEEK. YES, SIR. TOTAL BUDGET. YEAH. THREE MEALS A DAY INCREASE. YOU GET $180 A MONTH A MORE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 66, $76,000 A MONTH ADDING ALL UP THERE. YEAH. IT'S IT'S A LOT I MEAN WE WE YEAH. IF YOU DO THE MATH, YOU'RE NOT ONLY LOOKING AT TOTAL NUMBER OF INMATES YOU HAVE, YOU GOT TO THINK OF WHO HAS A DOUBLE CALORIC INTAKE, WHO HAS A LOW BODY MASS INDEX, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT ARE INDEED. YES, SIR.

THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO IT AND, YOU KNOW, AND IT YOU KNOW, FROM A CIVIL STANDPOINT, A

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[10. Discuss Request to move forward with the Design, Engineering, and RFP for an Animal Control Shelter(Jay Anderson)]

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YEAH. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. I'M SORRY. YEAH. LIKE YOU GET CALLED AND. AS OF RIGHT NOW, AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE CAN'T PICK THE DOG UP. WE DO WHERE TO TAKE IT. AND WE . SEVERAL DOGS.W THAT THE COMMISSIONER CALLED ME ABOUT GUY, AND WE. WE'VE GOT A LITTLE KENNEL UP HERE BY THE OLD POST. BUT REALLY, IF SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THAT DOG OR SOMEBODY WENT UP THERE AND GOT BIT BY THAT DOG, I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE REALLY A PROCESS FOR BEING UP THERE. IT'S JUST A HOLDING FOR SOMETHING WE COULD INSTEAD OF BEING ON OUR TRUCKS. I CALLED AROUND TO ALL THE AGENCIES AROUND US, AROUND THE COUNTIES. EVERYBODY'S FULL. SO THAT IS THAT FULL. AT THAT POINT, THEY'RE STILL FULL. WE NOTICED THAT WHEN WE WENT AND LOOKED AT SOME OF THESE FACILITIES, AND THEY GOT A LOT MORE DOGS THAN THE THAN THE CITY DOES, WE GET MESSAGES FROM THE CITY RANDOMLY, DAILY. FULL, FULL, FULL. THIS WEEKEND THIS OBVIOUSLY IS THE WORST TIME OF YEAR. THAT'S RIGHT. THE MANAGEMENT MODEL IS GOING TO BE IMPORTAN AND I YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE LIKE A IT'S MORE LIKE NOT OF A SHELTER PEOPLE CALL. SHELTERS. SHELTERS TEND TO FILL UP AND STAPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO ADOPT EVERYTHING OUT. YOU KNOW, HERE WE WOULD H PROCESS FOR YOUUP TH. YOU KNOW, THEY GOT A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD TO FIND THE OWNER.

THEN WE'LL TRY TO HAVE A LIST OF RESCUE GROUPS, LICENSED RESCUE GROUPS WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE THAT CAN COME IN AND LOOK AT THESE ANIMALS AND SAY, HEY, I WANT I WANT THIS ONE OVER HERE. I WANT ROSCOE OVER HERE. FLUFFY'S OVER HERE. YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET WE CAN GET THEM ADOPTED OUT. OKAY? BUT IF THEY DON'T, THEN WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE EUTHANIZATION.

AND THEN THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IT FLUID. AND LIKE I SAID, I. I SAY THIS EVERY TIME.

I'M NOT TRYING TO BE THIS PERSON THAT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, HE HATES ANIMALS. NO, I LOVE ANIMALS. BUT IN ORDER TO SERVE THE COUNTY IN THE COMMUNITY AND KEEP THE ANIMALS OFF THE STREET AND FROM CHASING KIDS DOWN THE STREET WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO PLAY IN THEIR OWN YARDS AND THINGS LIKE, WE'VE GOTTA HAVE A PROCESS THAT WORKS. IT'S GOTTA MOVE AND FLOW AND IT'S A NECESSARY EVIL. YOU KNOW, TO SOME PEOPLE, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE GOING TO COMPLAIN. BUT IF THEY'VE GOT A IF THEY'VE GOT A BETTER CHOICE, LET ME KNOW ABOUT IT. WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, OVER THE LAST, YOU KNOW, ALL DOGS ARE NOT A DOG. THAT'S RIGHT. THEY'RE NOT. THEY'RE NOT. AND I MEAN, LOOK WHAT HAPPENED IN THE CITY, YOU , WE HAD. AND THEN WE HAD ANOTHER DOG ATTACK IN THE CITY. I MEAN, MIGHT BE THAT DOG RIGHT THERE. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE CASE, BUT THESE DOGS ARE LIKE,

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THEY'RE EVERYONE'S FULL. YOU KNOW. MR. MOSLEY AND I WENT INTO THE ONE OVER IN SPALDING COUNTY AND IT WAS NICE. I MEAN, IT WAS I MEAN, IT WAS ALL ORGANIZED, NEW, NEW, BUT IT WAS PACKED. YOU COULDN'T HEAR YOURSELF TALK. ME AND HIM WERE STANDING THERE. I HAD TO SCREAM AT HIM. HE HAD TO SCREAM AT ME BECAUSE HIS DOGS WERE SO LOUD, BECAUSE IT WAS THAT FULL TWO THIRDS OF THE PISTOLS. AND YEP, MOST OF THE MAJORITY. AND THEY'RE JUMPING THIS HIGH KIND OF BARK AT YOU, GET YOU. I'M LIKE, IT'S CRAZY. ANYWAY, LET'S LET'S DON'T GET OFF THERE, ALRIGHT? YES, I HAVE TWO, TWO QUESTIONS. YES. TWO COMMENTS K. ONE ISK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT T WE LOOK AT A BUDGET AND HAVE A BUDGET FOR. FIND OUT THAT 200 IS NOT GOING TO BE THE NUMBER, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE LIKE 400. AND I THINK IT'S REAL, REAL IMPORTANT. I THINK IT'S FINE TO FOR US TO GET THE PRELIMINARY DESIGNS BY AN ARCHITECT SO WE KNOW W SPEND UPFRONT. BUT I'M, I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED THAT. IT TIES INTO THE SECOND PART. EVERY TIME I TURN ON THE NEWS AND YOU WATCH SOMETHING, AS YOU SAID, EVERY SHELTER IS FULL. IT'S NOT JUST TRUE COUNTY. IT'S EVERYWHERE. THEY'RE FULL. SO ARE WE PREPARING? HOW MANY, YOU KNOW, PENS OR HOLDING CELLS? DO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE CAN ACCOMMODATE? BECAUSE THE WORST THING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS IF WE GET A PHONE CALL AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO PUT A DOG EITHER AT THAT TIME. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THE CAPACITY TO HANDLE, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME DIFFERENT TYPES OF ANIMALS. I WOULD IMAGINE HORSES, COWS, GOATS, PIGS, WHATEVER. YOU KNOW, THAT MAYBE THE CITY DOESN'T SEE. SO I JUST THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY VERY SENSITIVE ABOUT ANIMALS.

THEY'RE ANIMALS AND HOW WE TREAT THOSE ANIMALS. AND SO I THINK WE'VE JUST GOT TO BE PREPARED THAT IF WE MAKE THAT DECISION TO GET IN, THAT WE'RE PREPARED TO DO THAT. THAT'S RIGHT. YES, SIR. AND I AGREE WITH THAT. I THINKHAT'S THE IMPORTANT PART OF AN EXACT DESIGN. AND HOW MANY CAN WE FIT IN ? AND, AND THEN BE ABLE TO HAVE. REALLY KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER. AND THEN TO KEITH'S POINT, HOPEFULLY HAVE A SYSTEM THAT WORKS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND AT THE SAME TIME SAVES US MONEY. SO WE HAVE TO STICK WITH THAT, THAT, THAT THING OF, YOU KNOW, BEING FLUID, MOVING IT THROUGH 20 KENNELS, THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY GOOD, YOU KNOW. BUT IF YOU KEEP IT AND WE'RE GOING TO AND EVEN THIS AND I WILL PUT OUT THIS, WE'LL HAVE A WE'LL ALSO TRY TO PURCHASE A INCINERATOR. AND WE CAN ALSO USE OTHER PEOPLE LIKE DRUGS CAN BE USED, YOU KNOW, TO BE BURNT UP IN THAT. AND AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF THE CITY WANTS TO USE IT FOR SOMETHING, THEY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROBABLY PUT A LITTLE FEE FOR THAT ON THERE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, JUST STUFF LIKE THAT. HOW MANY, HOW MANY PENS ARE AT THE CURRENT SHELTER? OH, GOSH. IT WAS. 60 OR 80 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I, I DON'T, I CAN'T, I CAN'T GIVE YOU A DEFINITE NUMBER. BUT FROM WHAT I CAN RECALL, HEARING 60 TO 80 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

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SOMEWHERE IN 60 TO 80 RANGE. AND TYPICALLY WE'LL FIND THAT SOME OF THEM ARE DOUBLED UP TO EIGHT HOURS. THERE'S ABOUT 100 AND THERE'S 100 AND SOMETHING. DOGS AT 120 SOMETHING MAYBE, MAYBE IN THERE BECAUSE THEY WERE USING LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A, LIKE A MAMA AND SIX PUPPIES OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S A NUMBER. SO YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN MAYBE TWO OR YOU KNOW, YOU COULD PUT TWO DOGS IN ONE KENNEL IF THEY'RE COME FROM THE SAME HOUSE OR I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT COULD BE A BLOODBATH TOO, BECAUSE THEY GET THEY STILL MAYBE COME FROM THE SAME HOUSE, BUT THEY GET INTO A FIGHT AND KILL EACH OTHER. I MEAN, I'VE HEARD I'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN THERE. WHERE IS THIS? WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. WHERE WOULD THIS BE LOCATED? THIS WILL BE LOCATED IN THE OLD EXTENSION OFFICE. THAT'S RIGHT.

DIRECTLY TO THE NEXT TO THE JAIL. BACK OFF OF SAM WALKER. BACK THERE IN THE BACK. YES, SIR. AND ANOTHER THING. THE SHERIFF IS THE SHERIFF AND I TALKED AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT USING SOME INMATE. MY NEXT QUESTION. YEAH. INMATE LABOR TO HELP CLEAN THE KENNELS AND KEEP EVERYTHING CLEANED AND, YOU KNOW, SANITARY LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. AND THAT'S THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING IS THE CLEANLINESS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE IS GOING TO COME IN AND MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING IS SQUARED AWAY. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S DONE. BUT YES, AND I APPRECIATE THE SHERIFF NOT TALKING ABOUT IT. AND HE'S WILLING TO HELP US WITH THAT ONCE WE NEED TO SEE HOW MANY WE GOTTA HAVE. BUT IT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR. THEY JUST WALK OVER THERE AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, IT FROM WHAT I IF IF IT GOES LIKE I, I PICTURED IN MY MIND AND THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME BUMPS IN THE ROAD THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SMOOTH OUT, YOU KNOW. BUT I THINK IT'LL BE I THINK IT'LL BE GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THAT OCCURRED EVERY TIME. I ME YOU MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THAT OUT THERE. WELL IF YOU GOT 20 KENNELS, JUST SAY YOU GOT JUST SAY YOU GOT $20. HOW MANY DO WE GOT AT THE AT THE AT THE JAIL DOWN THERE. THAT COULD ACTUALLY WORK ON DETAIL LIKE THAT AT THE TIME. YEAH WE COULD. WE JUST HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS WE DID WHEN I WAS AT, AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WHERE YOU HAVE INMATES. WELL, WE CALL THEM TRUSTEES, BUT TRUSTEES, INMATE WORKERS, YOU HAVE INMATE WORKERS ON CERTAIN TEAMS AND DETAILS. YOU GOT, YOU KNOW, KITCHEN DETAIL. YOU GOT THE INSIDE THE POD DETAIL. YOU KNOW, IT'S SO YOU'D HAVE TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY DETAIL, YOU KNOW, AND I COULD EVER HOW MANY TAKES TO KEEP THAT PLACE GOING. BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO. THEY GOT 600. I KNOW WE CAN'T USE 600, MAN. OH NO. BUT I MEAN COULD WE JUST HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND THE SHERIFF USUALLY IS THE ONE.

THAT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, NOTHING IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO LET A SOMEBODY IN THERE FOR ARMED ROBBERY GO OVER THERE AND OR ANIMAL CRUELTY, GO OVERANIMALS,, BECAUSE THEY THEY TAKE OFF RUNNING AND THEN THEY'RE GOING E WHO WHO CAN GET SOME KIND OF THER BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT WAS SOMETHING. SIR. ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY THERAPEUTIC PROGRAMS THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED? I'VE HEARD OF IT BEING DONE, BUT DO I KNOW OF ANY SPECIFIC. NO, BUT I'VE HEARD OF IT BEINGLIEVE THERE ARF PLACES IN THE COUNTY THAT I HAVEN'T REALLY LOOKED AT. BUT THEN AGAIN, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT REAL QUICK. OKAY. JILLIAN GRACE, WHO'S A WORKS WITH TGA, HAS TALKEDUT SEVERAL CA THERAPEUTIC DOG PROGRAM WITH THE FORMER MAYOR OF CITY OF LAGRANGE I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT. IN A 60 MINUTES EPISODE A YEAR OR SO AGO WHERE. BUT IT WAS AT A ZOO, BUT THE SAME TYPE, I THINK CONCEPT WHERE THE INMATES WERE HELPING DO STUFF AT THE ZOO AND HOW IT WAS VERY EFFECTIVE AND SOME THERAPEUTIC VALUE THERE. ANYTHING ELSE WE'LL HAVE? SHELTER. DIRECTOR, I THINK WE HAVE TIME FOR THIS PERSON. YES, SIR. YEAH. TRAINING PROCEDURES AND POLICIES. YEAH. I WOULD SAY RIGHT NOW, MAY I SAY A DIRECTOR AND MAYBE T. THAT WAY,F THE JU THE DIRECTOR'S.

AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL LOOK AND SEE WHERE THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE NEEDS TO PICK UP THE SLACK ON THAT. AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, WE CAN HELP THEM OUT TOO. BUT. ALSO, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE INMATES DOWN THERE, I'D LIKE FOR TO BE ABLE TO HAVE WHOEVER'S WORKING THERE EITHER CERTIFIED OR AT LEAST JAIL CERTIFIED. AND I TALKED TO THE SHERIFF ABOUT THAT BEFORE. AND

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AND JUST TO PUT THOSE PINS IN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE STAND TODAY, BUT BACK IN THE DAY WE THAT WE TOOK CATTLE AND HORSES AND PIGS. THAT'S WHAT I'M SITTING HERE LISTENING AND I JUST. YEAH, BUT WE HAVE ENOUGH ROOM BACK THERE. LISA NEEDS A LOT OF HER HOUSE.

I MEAN, WE GOT WE. I KNOW A LOT OF FARMERS. YOU KNOW, A LOT OFPT THERE'S ANOTHER THING ABOUT THAT. NOW YOU LOOK. YOU'RE KIND OF EMPLOYING THE CITIZEN TO, YOU KNOW, WE. OF HOW WE NEED TO GO BACK AND MAKE SURE WE'RE PROTECTING. THAT. AND I THINK THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE, IF WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BECOME A LICENSED FACILITY. NOW, WHEN YOU HAVE A LICENSED FACILITY, BEFORE YOU START TAKING ANIMALS AND DROPPING THEM OFF TO CIVILIANS, THAT MIGHT BE AN ISSUE, TOO. SO WE MIGHT HAVE TO STAY WITHIN. I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT CATTLE. OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BACK IN THE DAY. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. BUT YES. BUT YOU KNOW, WE JUST GOTTA MAKE SURE WE DO THIS CORRECTLY. YES. AND I, I'M, I'M TRYING TO KEEP EVERYBODY TOGETHER. LET'S LET'S MAKE SURE WHEN WE DO THIS, WE DON'T STUMBLE INTO A PROBLEM THAT WE DIDN'T FORESEE. ONE THING HE ALWAYS TAUGHT ME, IF IT'S PREDICTABLE, IT'S PREVENTABLE.

NOBODY CAN. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO. HE TOOK IT TO THE TRYING TO KEEP THAT MOVING. I'M A HUSH NOW. NO, NO. YOU'RE FINE. NOBODY'S GOING TO COME ROLLING. YES, I ACTUALLY MET SEVERALTRAC.

QUOTE I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS. IT'S GOING TO BE THE VENTILATION AND THE AIR MOVEMENT BECAUSE OF THE CLEANLINESS AND THE SMELL AND THE ODOR. THAT'S A BIG FACTOR.

SO I GOT, YOU KNOW, SO I'VE ACTUALLY GOT QUOTES THAT I PUT IN A BUDGET. YEAH. AND SO THAT'S WHERE AND THEN EVEN PUT ON, YOU KNOW OVERHEAD COSTS AND DIFFERENT STUFF FOR CONSTRUCTION TO WHERE I REALLY THINK THE CONSTRUCTION WILL BE IN THE SIXES. LIKE MY, LIKE MY SHEET SAYS. AND THEN THE, THE EQUIPPING OF IT WOULD BE 100 MAX. SO THEN THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE IN THE SEVENS TO, TO TO DO THE RENOVATION AND CONSTRUCTION AND THEN TO EQUIP IT PROPERLY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SOMEWHERE IN THE SEVENS. BUT THAT'S WHERE MOVING FORWARD WILL WILL LET US KNOW FOR SURE WHERE WE REALLY STAND AND BE ABLE TO REALLY WORK A FINAL BUDGET, OPERATING BUDGET AS WELL, TO KNOW WHAT OUR PAYBACK IS, WHERE WE REALLY STAND. BUT I THINK WE KNOW ENOUGH NOW TO MAKE THAT DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. WE WANT TO GET THAT CORRECT AND THEN TO GET TO GET IT BID OUT AND REALLY KNOW FOR SURE SOLID FIXED NUMBERS. OKAY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH. YOU GET THOSE PLANS. HOW YOURS.

SMITH. RIGHT. YES, YES. HOW WILL HE BE PAID? THERE IS A QUOTE IN THERE WHERE IT IS I THINK FIVE POINT. BUT BUT IT BUT HE DID PUT A MAX ON IT. HE, HE PUT IT'S A 5.7% OF CONSTRUCTION COST WITH A GUARANTEED MAX OF 43,000. I THINK THAT'S THE NUMBER. IF YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. CORRECT. 5.7% OF THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS WITH A GUARANTEED NOT TO EXCEED IS THE WAY HE WORDS IT OF 43,000. SO IT WOULD CAP OUT AT 43 NO MATTER WHAT THE COST WAS, IT WOULD CAP OUT AT 43 AS A MAX. BUT IF OUR COSTS COME IN. I DID THE MATH THE OTHER DAY. JUST SAY IT WAS 6% FOR EITHER EASY MATH, BUT THIS IS 5.76% WOULD

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