Aug 19, 2025 Board of Commissioners Work Session

JUST IN TIME. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. LET ME WELCOME EVERYONE TO OUR. TUESDAY, AUGUST 19TH,

[1. Discuss Jail Mental Health Liaison Position(Chief Jon Whitney)]

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THEY'RE ISOLATED. IT CAUSES MORE ISSUES IF YOU IF YOU'RE PUT IN, YOU KNOW, BEING IN JAIL, THEY'RE ALREADY SOMEWHERE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE. AND IF THEY'VE BEEN SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET MENTAL HEALTH HELP AND THEN NOW THEY'RE IN JAIL. WE'RE NOT SET UP FOR THAT. IT WAS KIND OF LIKE WHEN WE GO FOR COVID, JAILS WEREN'T REALLY SET UP FOR COVID, BUT WE HAD TO FIGURE IT OUT. AND THAT'S WHY I'M IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS RIGHT NOW. WE GOT TO FIGURE THIS OUT. AND THIS IS WHERE I WANTED TO BRING THE MENTAL HEALTH LIAISON. THIS WOULD BE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WOULD BE A COUNTY EMPLOYEE THAT WOULD WORK FOR US. WE DO HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH LIAISON WITH THE CURRENT HEALTH CARE PROVIDER, BUT THAT'S JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL. THIS IS SOMEONE THAT I WANT TO BE A COUNTY EMPLOYEE THAT WOULD WORK FOR US. THAT WOULD BE A LINK BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE JAIL. BE KIND OF LIKE A SOCIAL WORKER IN JAIL TO A POINT. BUT THEY WOULD BE A CERTIFIED CORRECTIONAL OFFICER, BUT WOULD HAVE THE EDUCATION AND THE BACKGROUND OF MENTAL HEALTH AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES. WE GOT TO HAVE IT. WE'RE MODELING IT AFTER MUSKOGEE COUNTY. THEY'VE HAD THEIR PROGRAM IN PLACE FOR ABOUT A YEAR. WE'VE GONE DOWN THERE AND

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THEY'VE PROBABLY GOT A WING. WHAT DID THEY TELL US? ABOUT 80. 60 TO 80, FOLKS. THEY HAVE A WHOLE WING DEDICATED TO THAT. THEY'RE KIND OF IN THE SAME BOAT THAT WE ARE. SO WE HAVE NEARLY AS MANY. OH, YEAH, AS THEY HAVE IN MUSKOGEE. AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER, IF YOU GO TO COWETA COUNTY, WHICH IS UP THE ROAD, WE HAVE A WHOLE HECK OF A LOT MORE IN OUR FACILITY THAN COWETA HOUSES. AND I'M GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, OUR JAIL IS GOING TO GET A LOT MORE FULLER BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SOME VACANCIES IN THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. WE'VE ALSO GOT SOME VACANCIES IN THE SOLICITOR'S OFFICE. SO COURT PROCEEDINGS ARE GOING TO BE A LITTLE SLOWER, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE COMING TO OUR FACILITY. WE ABSOLUTELY ARE.

SO THIS MENTAL HEALTH LIAISON, YOU SAID WE HAVE ONE THAT IS THROUGH THE HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. THAT INDIVIDUAL SEES ABOUT 60 PEOPLE, BUT THAT'S ONE PERSON. AND THAT PERSON WORKS FOR THE HEALTH CARE PROVIDER, DOESN'T WORK AT THE DISCRETION OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WORKS THROUGH US, BUT IS MORE GUIDED BY THE HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. SO WITH THIS POSITION, WOULD THAT ALLOW, I GUESS, ONCE THE EVALUATION IS DONE? YES, SIR. TT THROUGH? WITH PROBATE COURT AND ALL THE HEALTH CARE FACILITIES AND THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WE MET WITH IN MUSKOGEE COUNTY HAS A DIRECT LINE TO THE PROBATE JUDGE AND SAY, HEY, I NEED SOM ON THIS. AND THAT'S WHERE I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIPS. BECAUSE I CAN SEND THEM TO JAIL SCHOOL AND GET THEIR CERTIFICATION IN TWO WEEKS. I WANT THEM TO GO IN AND HAVE THE EXPERIENCE AND MAYBE THE ACCREDITATION AND THE EDUCATION WITH THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, BECAUSE I CAN GET THEM INTO JAIL SCHOOL. BUT THEY WOULD BE THE LIAISON TO SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT AN INDIVIDUAL, MAYBE WE NEED TO GET A MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATION. CAN WE GO AHEAD AND GET THEM IN FRONT OF COURT? CAN WE DO THAT? WOULD BE A LIKE A HANDLER, SO TO SPEAK, TO GET THESE INDIVIDUALS KIND OF MOVED OUT OF THE FACILITY AND WHERE THEY NEED TO GO TO FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. PATHWAYS IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. MENTAL HEALTH HAD A DIFFERENT NAME. IS PATHWAY STILL AN OPTION IN OUR COMMUNITY? THE STATE TO HELP US? YES AND NO. YES, SIR. BUT FOR MOST OF OUR MENTAL HEALTH TRANSPORTS, IF WE DON'T HAVE AN IN CARE TREATMENT FACILITY HERE, WE GO INTO WILLOWBROOK, WHICH IS WHAT? NEAR VILLA RICA. IS THAT CORRECT? WE TRANSPORT ALL THE WAY UP THERE. WE PASS OUR. WE PASS EACH OTHER IN THE ROAD WITH MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATIONS. AND TO ENLIGHTEN YOU A LITTLE BIT ON THE LAW, THE WAY THE LAW READS IS FOR MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATIONS, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OF THAT COUNTY OR THAT JURISDICTION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR

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THERE WASN'T A BED OPEN. THERE WAS NOWHERE TO TAKE THIS INDIVIDUAL, EVEN THOUGH WE HAD THEM INVOLUNTARY COMMITTED. THEY WERE IN OUR FACILITY AND IT HAPPENED. AND WE GOT HIM TO THAT BED. IT MIGHT HAVE TURNED OUT DIFFERENTLY. SO THERE IS ISSUES WITH GETTING THEM TO FACILITIES.

BUT WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING. WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE THAT WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE IT OUT. BECAUSE AS YOU WELL KNOW, A LOT OF THE STATE FUNDED MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES ARE DEFUNCT OR NOT IN PLACE ANYMORE. AND WHERE DOES THAT BURDEN LIE UPON THE JAIL, THE LOCAL, THE LOCAL JAILS TO DEAL WITH THAT? SO WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT. HAVE THEIR OWN WE COULD I CAN MAKE THE ROOM. WE'VE GOT A. AND THIS WOULD BE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE WOULD PUT BECAUSE THAT'S A MEDIUM MINIMUM SECURITY FACILITY. RIGHT. WHERE WE COULD PROBABLY HOUSE THESE INDIVIDUALS UP THERE AND DEAL WITH THEM UP THERE. SO I'LL MAKE I'LL FIND THE ROOM FOR THAT TO SEPARATE THESE, THIS INDIVIDUAL RIGHT HERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HIRING COULD MAKE THAT DETERMINATION ON WHICH WAY THEY WENT. YES, SIR. AND ALSO WHAT THEY'LL DO IS THEY'LL THEY'LL ROUND. WHAT I MEAN ROUND IS TALK DAILY WITH JAILERS. THAT BECAUSE A JAILER CAN SAY ALSO GO TO AN INDIVIDUAL AND SAY, HEY, THERE'S SOMETHING NOT NECESSARILY I'M NOT CLINICALLY DIAGNOSING THIS INDIVIDUAL, BUT WE'VE GOT SOMETHING GOING ON WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL. AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SELF REPORT TO THIS LIAISON. AND WE COULD DO THAT. WE DO THAT THROUGH CLASSIFICATION AS WELL. YES, SIR. SO YOU HAD THE CAPABILITY. NOW YOU'RE SAYING WITH THIS POSITION ABLE TO DO THAT OR A LITTLE FACILITY. OKAY. SOME SECURITY BECAUSE THEY GO IN AND OUT TO WORK, BUT THESE PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE GOING OUT TO WORK. AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO PROBABLY HAVE STAFF UP THERE TO PROPERLY RUN THAT FACILITY. GOTCHA. BUT WE CAN MAKE DO WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE A VULNERABLE WHAT WE CALL A VULNERABLE POPULATION DORM. AND THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY BE EITHER YOUNGER OR OLDER, THAT DO NOT MIX WELL WITH THE GENERAL POP THAT COULD BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF, SO TO SPEAK. SO WE KIND OF USE THAT DORM AS AS A MENTAL HEALTH DORM, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. AND WE USE THE TERM THAT MUSKOGEE COUNTY USES THE SAME TERM. IT'S LIKE A VULNERABLE POP AND THEY DO THE SAME THING. YEAH. I THANK FULTON COUNTY, MADE AN ANNOUNCEMENT YESTERDAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE DOING SOME RENOVATION, BUT THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO BUILD A WING FOR MENTAL HEALTH. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO YEAH. LIKE I SAID, WE'VE GOT 60 ON PAPER SO TO SPEAK, BUT MORE LIKE 150 INDIVIDUALS THAT COULD BE DIAGNOSED AS SUCH. YEP. JUST WAITING ON TRIAL. OKAY. IT'S A CONGLOMERATION OF THINGS. ALSO, WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE TO GO TAKE INTO A FORENSIC INTERVIEW TO SEE IF THEY'RE MENTALLY FIT TO GO TO, TO TRIAL. AND THEN SOME PEOPLE ARE IN ON LIKE A CRIMINAL TRESPASS CHARGE BECAUSE THEY'RE LOITERING OUTSIDE OF A FACILITY. AND IT'S MORALLY BASED BASED ON MENTAL

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[2. Discuss Downtown LaGrange Long-term Master Plan(Bill Hunnicutt and Aaron Fortner)]

SO THE KEY IS, THOUGH, THE FOUNDATION PAID FOR THE ENTIRE PLAN LAST TIME. AND AS AS YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW, THEY HAVE MOVED FROM FOCUSING ON DOWNTOWN TO, TO EDUCATION AND HOUSING IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THEY'RE STILL KEEPING THEIR THEIR HANDS ON DOWNTOWN SOMEWHAT. AND SO MY BOARD ASKED THAT I GO OUT AND REACH OUT TO FIVE ENTITIES THE CITY, YOU GUYS, THE CALLAWAY FOUNDATION AND THE DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF LAGRANGE AND ASK IF WE COULD ALL SPLIT THIS BILL. SO THE COST FOR THIS PLAN IS $166,000. AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS THAT ALL FIVE OF US SPLIT THAT BY ONE FIFTH. AND SO WE'RE ROUGHLY ASKING IF YOU GUYS COULD, COULD HELP US PAY FOR THIS WITH ABOUT $35,000. WE'RE READY TO GET GOING. OUR OUR BOARD HAS APPROVED IT. I JUST GOT THE LETTER LAST WEEK FROM THE CALLAWAY FOUNDATION. THEY'VE AGREED TO IT. THE CITY HAS ACTUALLY ALREADY PUT IN PART OF THEIRS IN THEIR BUDGET FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGN GUIDELINES PIECE. THEY ACTUALLY FELT LIKE THAT WAS THEIRS TO TAKE. SO THEY'VE ALREADY TAKEN THAT PIECE. AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT. AND WE NEED YOUR HELP. AND JUST A REMINDER OUR DOWNTOWN IS THE HEARTBEAT OF THIS COMMUNITY. AND IT'S THE HEARTBEAT OF OUR CITY.

IT'S THE HEARTBEAT OF OUR COUNTY. AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE THAT WE CAN ALL AGREE TO AND FOLLOW. THE LAST POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, YOU GUYS WILL HAVE I DON'T KNOW WHICH OF YOU I WOULD ASSUME COMMISSIONER JONES OR COMMISSIONER MCCAMY IS THE DOWNTOWN IS IN THEIR ZONE, BUT WE WANT ONE OF Y'ALL AT THE TABLE WHEN WE HAVE THESE MEETINGS. AS WE GO THROUGH THIS AS PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER. UNLESS ANY OF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME ABOUT THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO AARON. LET HIM DISCUSS WHAT THE PROCESS IS. THANK YOU. GENTLEMEN. GOOD MORNING. ACTUALLY, IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO.

WE'LL GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. YEAH THAT'S FINE. SO THIS KIND OF SHOWS THE ENTIRE PROCESS. AND YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE A HEAVY PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT COMPONENT WITH THE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE AROUND THE DOWNTOWN, PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE DOWNTOWN, BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE DOWNTOWN, ELECTED OFFICIALS, COUNTY ELECTED OFFICIALS, CITY ELECTED OFFICIALS. AND SO VERY HEAVY WITH PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS BEING DONE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST TO THE COMMUNITY. WE ALSO HAVE A MARKET ANALYSIS COMPONENT TO THE WORK, WHERE WE HAVE A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FIRM THAT WOULD JOIN US, CCB ADVISORS, AND THEY'VE DONE WORK IN THIS COMMUNITY ALREADY. HELP US HAVE AN ECONOMIC SNAPSHOT OF THE AREA SO WE CAN REALLY BE SMART ABOUT HOW

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SO THAT'S A BIT OF OUR PROCESS. I WILL SAY I'VE DONE THIS IN THE COUNTY. I DID THIS WITH HOGANSVILLE DOWNTOWN HOGANSVILLE. WE DID THEIR MASTER PLAN A FEW YEARS AGO, EXCUSE ME, AND THEN DOWNTOWN WEST POINT A FEW YEARS AGO AS WELL. SO A LOT OF THE GREAT THINGS YOU SEE THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THOSE DOWNTOWNS HAVE COME THROUGH DOING THESE KINDS OF MASTER PLANS. BUT THIS REALLY IS, AS BILL SAID, IT'S ABOUT GETTING AHEAD OF THE NEXT 20, 25 YEARS AND UNDERSTANDING HOW THIS DOWNTOWN IS GOING TO GROW. BEING VERY STRATEGIC ABOUT THAT, LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR MORE HOUSING. HOW DO WE SUPPORT THE EXISTING RETAILERS THAT ARE HERE? YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU PLAN FOR THE FUTURE? IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT THE NEW THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO BRING. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE WHOEVER'S HERE NOW CAN DO IT. CAN THEY? THEY CAN SUSTAIN THEMSELVES, THEY CAN THRIVE. AND SO THAT'S A BIG PART OF THIS. WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO HEAR FROM EXISTING RETAILERS AND BUSINESSES. WHAT DO YOU NEED TO SUCCEED. WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THEM. SO THAT'S A BIG PART OF THIS PLAN AS WELL. IN ADDITION TO FINDING OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE DOWNTOWN, WHICH BENEFITS THE WHOLE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY WHO COME TO THE DOWNTOWN PARKS AND OPEN SPACES AND SIDEWALKS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS WOULD BE A PART OF THIS PLAN AS WELL. SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT ON THE PROCESS AND WHAT COMES OUT OF THE MASTER PLAN. AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO BILL AND I HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. YES. MORE QUESTIONS I HAVE ON THIS. WE JUST WENT THROUGH ON OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLA COUNTY. RIGHT. AND O THE THINGS WAS THERE WAS LIKE OPEN, I GUESS. THERE. OR IS IT JUST SPECIFIC GROUPS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE A PUBLIC MEETING? YEAH, PUBLIC MEETINGS WOULD BE A PART OF THIS, CORRECT? YEAH.

YEAH. WE. MEETINGS, SMALL FOCUS GROUPS, A STEERING COMMITTEE. SO THOSE ARE SORT OF THE THREE LAYERS OF HOW WE HEAR FROM PEOPLE. YEAH. BILL. BILL, I MEAN WE'RE KIND OF WE JUST FINISHED OBVIOUSLY A CAVE INVESTORS DID A STUDY OF DOWNTOWN SOUTHERN PART OF DOWNTOWN PRIMARILY. DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT STANDS? I MEAN,T THAT'S THE MISSING PIECE IS ADDITIONAL HOUSING IN DOWNTOWN.

SO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF IN GENERAL. LAST YEAR. SO THAT WAS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THE OBVIOUS ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, RIGHT, THAT OUR SOUTH END AND HOUSING WAS SOMETHING WE ALL KNEW WE NEEDED AND WE NEEDED TO GET THAT TAD DONE TO, TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. AND SO THAT WAS A BIG PIECE. BUT THIS IS MORE LONG TERM. AND THIS IS THE ENTIRE CITY. THIS IS ACTUALLY THIS STUDY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE STUDY AREA, WOULD ACTUALLY COME OUTSIDE OUR DOWNTOWN DISTRICT TO LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOODS SURROUNDING THE DOWNTOWN AND HOW THAT NEEDS TO BE PLANNED FOR.

BUT YEAH, THAT IS DONE. THE TAB IS IN PLACE AND THAT WAS NEEDED. PROGRESS HAPPENED. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING. YES. SO THE HOTEL IS LOOKING AT PHASE ONE. BUT THE W.C. BRADLEY WHO'S A GROUP THAT AS YOU RECALL DOING THAT THEY UNFORTUNATELY ARE BEING HELD UP BY SOME OF THE FEDERAL TARIFF ISSUES. SO THEIR THEIR ENTIRE SCOPE OF W.C. BRADLEY IS, OWNS A LOT OF BUSINESSES. AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE THE PRODUCTS THAT THEY SELL COME OUT OF CHINA. AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT A MASSIVE HIT ON THEIR BOTTOM LINE WITH THESE TARIFFS IN PLACE RIGHT NOW. AND SO THEY BASICALLY PUT THE REAL ESTATE STUFF ON HOLD. THEY WE ARE LOOKING AT A PROJECT TO GO AHEAD AND DO TAKE DOWN MOST OF THE NOISE AND REDO IT RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT ALL THAT IS IN PLACE, YOU KNOW, AS YOU RECALL THE TAD, ONCE IT WAS IN PLACE, THE MONEY STARTS BUILDING. AND SO IT'S A IT'S A LONG TERM THING, BUT ALL THAT IS STILL IN PLAY AND IN PLACE. IT JUST HAS BEEN HELD UP A LITTLE BIT WITH THE WITH THE TARIFF ISSUE, OBVIOUSLY, AS MOST OF OUR DADS HAVE A SUNSET CLAUSE. YES.

WELL SO THAT'S THAT'S EXACTLY WHY. SO THE FOUNDATION IS GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE DOWN LEWIS.

OR THEY WERE GOING TO TAKE IT ALL DOWN. NOW THEY THEY JUST CAME UP WITH A NEW PLAN THEY'RE LOOKING AT TO TAKE DOWN MOST OF IT AND REDO IT. AND SO THAT WOULD THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT CLAUSE BECAUSE THAT WILL BE CONSTRUCTION HAPPENING THAT GETS THAT DONE. BUT THIS IS MORE

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YEAH, THERE YOU GO. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PURPLE AREA IS BASICALLY THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT RIGHT NOW. AND SO YOU CAN SEE THEOUNDARY OF THIS. WHAT W LOOKING AT EXPANDS OUTSIDE OF.

THAT PLAN MASTER PLAN THAT WAS WORKED ON IN 2000. AND. THE HOTEL WAS THE LAST PIECE THE ONE THING THAT WE ALL KIND OF LOOK BACK AND ACKNOWLEDGE NOW IS AND I THINK I MENTIONED THIS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE TAD, THE ONE PIECE THAT THAT PLAN MISSED WAS RESIDENTIAL LIVING DOWNTOWN.

AND WITH ALL THAT WE DID, WE ENDED UP WITH NO RESIDENTS LIVING HERE. AND, YOU KNOW, ANY URBAN STUDY WILL TELL YOU, IF YOU WANT A VIBRANT DOWNTOWN, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE PEOPLE LIVING THERE. AND IT IS WHEN PEOPLE FROM OTHER MAIN STREET TYPE PROGRAMS AND THAT STUDY THESE TYPE THINGS COME TO LAGRANGE, THE COMMENT THEY ALWAYS MAKE IS, IT'S UNBELIEVABLE HOWUR DOWNTOWY LIVING HERE. YOU KNOW,ND HAVE OUR RETAILE RESTAURANTS BE MORE CONSISTENT BECAUSE THEY.

POP BUSINESSES. IT'S A STRUGGLE AND WE NEED PEOPLE DOWN HERE TO CONSISTENTLY SUPPORT THEM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.D STUFF.CH. THANK YOU ALL. APPRECIATE IT.

[3. Discuss LaGrange Housing Authority Budget Request(Zsa Zsa Heard)]

AND THESE ARE MORE COLORED WHERE WE CAN SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THESE SIDEWALKS ARE BEING PUT IN. SOME OF THE SIDEWALKS ARE GOING TO CONNECT TO THE THREAD BECAUSE THERE'S A THREAD PORTION OF IT. AND THE PARKING LOT THAT'LL BE TO THE SIDE THERE FOR PERSONS TO PARK. AND LIKE I SAID, IT'LL BE FOUR UNITS. SO IT'LL BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. LAST WEEK, THE CITY DID AGREE TO PUT IN THE SIDEWALKS FOR THIS PROJECT. SO THEY'LL PUT IN ALL THE SIDEWALKS FORWARD. IT'S ABOUT 1000 TO 1077 SQUARE FOOT OF SIDEWALK THAT THE CITY IS ACTUALLY GOING TO PUT IN, BUT IT LOOKS VERY BEAUTIFUL. AND ANY QUESTION HAVE NOW THATTHIS POINT.

CITY IS GOING TO DO THE SIDEWALKS NOW, WHAT WILL BE THE REMAINING PORTION THATLOOKING AS JUST THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO GET WITH PATRICK TO SEE HOW MUCH TO COST THEM SO WE DEDUCT THAT HE DIDN'T THAT PRICE. SO WE CAN THE SIDEWE OF THE GRADING, AND THEN THAT'LL

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HERE OKAY. AND SO THE CITY'SHATS DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THERE WHERE THEY CAN CONNECT. SO IF SOMEONE WALKS THE THREAD, THERE'S AN EVEN EXCHANGE ONCE THEY GET OFF THE THREAD ONTO THE SIDEWALK. SO IT'LL BE BETWEEN 1000. THAT'S WHAT HE SAID, 1077, BECAUSE IT'LL DO A LITT CONNECTING THERE JUST TO SAFE. SO HOW MANY? WHAT IS IT? DO YOU KNO SIZE OF THAT PARKING IS? ONLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW EIGHT PEOPLE TO PARK THEREECAUSE YOU GIVE.

YOU GIVE THEM TWO SPACES TO BE ABLE TO PARK THERE. AND IT'S JUST FROM MY EDUCATION ON HOW THIS COMES ABOUT. SO WHEN THAT PROPERTY IS I GUESS HOW IS LIKE START TO FINISH. THAT PROPERTY IS BOUGHT. IT'S OWNED BY THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, BY THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. AND THEN THAT AND THEN FOR THE HOUSE IS SET FOR THE, FOR. HOW IS THAT COME FROM WHERE DOES THAT FUNDING COME FROM. THE FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT. RIGHT.M SENATOR WARNOCK'S OFFICE BACK IN 2023. WE GOT THE. GRANT AND THEY ACTUALLY AWARDED US THE GRANT FOR TH SO WE ALL KNOW.

YES. BUT REM IT'S ONE UNIT WITH FOUR APARTMENTS. 23 THINGS WERE LOWER, THINGS INCREASED. SO THIS IS WHERE WE FOUND THAT 128. SO THAT'S WHEN WE DECIDED THE STAFF SAID. WOULD BE A PIECE OF IT THAT COULD COVER THIS IN THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO THE 128 IS NOT SOME KIND OF MATCHING REQUIREMENT THAT YOU HAVE FOR. NO, NO, NO, WE'VE ALREADY DONE. IT'S THE GAP THAT YOU FEEL YOU NEED TO BEE TO MAKE THIS PROJECT HAPPEN, TO GO TO BID AND START CONSTRUCTION. REPEAT.

PARD MORE TIME. I REMEMBER THERE WAS THIS. HE FELT THAT THE VALUE OF THEIR IN-KIND LABOR AND MATERIALS WOULD BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 25 TO $30,000. OKAY, SO THEY'RE JUST DOING LABOR MATERIAL. THEY'VE GOT IT'S JUST IN-KIND. YEAH. THEY'RE ACTUALLY THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE. CONCRETE OBVIOUSLY. BUT THEY'LL, THEY'LL DO THE LABOR OF THE JOB AND CALL FOR CONCRETE OR ASPHALT. ASPHALT. ASPHALT. IT HAS. NO IT HAS NO CURB O TO KEEP ITEN THE CITY'S PRICES THAT INCLUDE. PART OF THE PARKING LOT PART OF. THEY ALSO GOT SO THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT PROJECT. SO IT'S JUST THE PARKING LOT ITSELF? YES. GO BACK ONE MORE TIME. TWO BEDROOM UNIT. WE HAVE ONE ONE BEDROOM, ONE TWO BEDROOM, ONE THREE BEDROOM ONE

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WELL MAYBE HE COULD GIVE US A PLAT. ON WHAT THE REA YES, WE CN BE AND EXACTLY WHAT ALL WOULD NEED. A MORE. CAPABILITIES. I MEAN, OF TIMES WHEN WE'RE BUILDING LIKE I WAS. THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S THE REAL TIME PART IS ACTUALLY JUST THE SETUP OF, YOU KNOW, PLANNING OUT PARKING LOT ITSELF. THE SHORTER TERM ACTUALLY IS ACTUALLY JUST LAYING SE'S A LOTF THAT HAS TO HAPPEN. JAMES, I WANT TO SPEAK UP FOR YOU, BUT YOU CERTAINLY CAN SPEAK IF YOU WANT TO. I ASSUME THE DESIGN IS. AND I CAN GET THAT TO YOU. YES. IF WE HAVE THE CAPABILITIES AT THE TIME TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE IN-KIND LABOR VERSUS ACTUAL DOLLARS FOR DOLLAR. THAT'S RIGHT. I THINK WITH OUR RELATIONSHH MATTHEW'S LOCALLY IN TOWN ASPHALT P I GUESS WHAT I HEAR IS THATU'LLR STAFF.HT, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. OR THE RELOCATION O STATION STATION 14 IS THE ONE THAT'S.

MAYBE 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO, THE CITY ABANDONED THAT STATION. THE COUNTY TOOK IT OVER. AND WE'VE BEEN MANNING THAT STATION. IT IS WELL WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. ABOUT IN THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY WHERE WE GET THE MOST BANG FOR OUR BUCK FOR OUR CITIZENS. I'VE STARTED OFF WITH TALKING WITH DOCTOR SHUMATE, AND THEN NOW DOCTOR HAZEL, AND WE HAVE COME TO A FAIRLY FINITE AGREEMENT FOR THEM TO TRANSFER A LITTLE LESS THAN FIVE ACRES TO TROUP COUNTY OFF OF ROANOKE ROAD. THE OLD TATUM SCHOOL PROPERTY. THE AGREEMENT WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD A FIRE STATION, BUT IN RETURN THAT WE WOULD WE WOULD CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THEM ACCESS ON THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY FOR PARKING OF UP TO 12 SCHOOL BUSSES. AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM FOR A WHILE. WE HAVE A PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD AGREEMENT. SPOKE WITH DOCTOR HAZEL AS EARLY AS LAST THURSDAY. SHE'S MET WITH HER BOARD. THEY SEEM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE MEASURE. I THINK THEIR PLANS ARE TO TAKE ACTION, I BELIEVE THURSDAY OF THIS WEEK ON THE AGREEMENT. MARK HAS BEEN WORKING WITH GREG ELLINGTON, WHO IS THEIR ATTORNEY, AND MARK, YOU CERTAINLY CAN CHIME IN IF I'M MISSING SOMETHING. NO, I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK THERE ARE THERE ARE A FEW ASPECTS OF I THINK THE DOCUMENTATION, THE WAY IT'S CONCEPTUALIZED NOW IS THERE WOULD BE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING AND THEN ULTIMATELY A CONVEYANCE OF THE PROPERTY FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD TO THE COUNTY, WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD RESERVING AN EASEMENT FOR THE AREA TO PARK THE SCHOOL BUSSES. THE EXACT NUMBER OF SCHOOL BUSSES. IT'S I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S THAT'S BEEN FINALIZED. YEAH. WE THERE'S OTHER DETAILS OF THE AGREEMENT THAT STILL NEED TO BE WORKED OUT INITIALLY. THE AGREEMENT I THINK IT'S A TEN BUSSES, BUT I THINK IT'S PART OF SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT DOCTOR HAZEL HAVE THEIR BOARD, THEY'VE ASKED TO INCREASE TO 12.

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IT'S A FAIRLY FLAT, RECTANGULAR LOT. AND SO WE FEEL IT'S VERY EASY FOR THEM TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY. THEY'LL BE IN AND OUT DRIVEWAY AND THEY'RE EVEN OKAY WITH EVEN HAVING A GRAVEL PARKING LOT, WHICH IS WHAT THEY HAVE NOW. SO THERE'LL BE SOME LIGHTING ON THE PROPERTY AND SOME PROBABLY SOME FENCING ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTY. BUT IN MY OPINION, VERY MINIMAL EXPENSES TO THE COUNTY. IN REFERENCE TO THE PROPERTY TRANSFER. SO TIM, WE'RE GOING TO GET A TO LOOK AT THIS MOU IN A CONTRACT BEFORE BEFORE THE END OF I MEAN, FOR THE VOTE. WE CERTAINLY CAN YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE WE HAVE A COPY OF THE AGREEMENT. I THINK I SENT IT OUT FOR LAST WEEK DRAFT. RIGHT. AND AGAIN BUT THAT WAS A DRAFT THAT WASN'T THE. YEAH I MEAN I THINK THE, THE, THE FINAL LANGUAGE REALLY IS REFERENCE TO JUST SOME VERY SMALL THINGS. AGAIN, NUMBER OF BUSSES AND JUST ENSURE THAT THERE'S ACCESS. BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY WE THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE BEFORE YOU AGAIN IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE ANOTHER 30 TO 45 DAYS BEFORE WE'RE READY TO PUT THIS FIRE STATION OUT TO BID. SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO TRY TO TWEAK THINGS. AND SO IF THE ULTIMATE DECISION TONIGHT IS TO TABLE IT FOR TWO WEEKS. THAT'S THE CHURCH OF GOD.

OKAY. THESE ARE STARTING ON THIS LOCATION HERE. COULD YOU EXPLAIN HOW THE THIS LOCATION, WOULD HELP SERVICE THE CITIZENS. YEAH. BUT BASICALLY. 14 WHICH COVERS THIS AREA, THERE'S A PRETTY NICE GAP AS YOU'VE GOT ABBOTSFORD, WHICH IS NEARLY ON THE ALABAMA LINE. AND THEN YOU STATION 14 THAT ARE THERE COVERING THIS, THIS AREA OF COUNTY. BUYS A MUCH QUICKER RESPONSE TIME TO THAT GEOGRAPHIC REGION OF THE COUNTRY. IT ALSO IS TALKING TO CHIEF STEELE. AND EARLIER LAST WEEK, AND THIS IS PROBABLY ALSO WHERE A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT WILL BE HELD FOR OUR DIVE TEAM, BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE CLOSER FACILITIES TO THE LAKE. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO WHAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO DO IS SINCE YOU SAID WE'RE THE NEXT ITEM WOULD BE COMING UP FAIRLY SOON, ARE WE JUST GOING TO PLAN TO HAVE THE MOU PREPARED AND APPROVE IT, LET EVERYBODY REVIEW IT AND APPROVE IT AT THE TIME WE DO THE BID FOR THE FIRE STATION, OR PROBABLY NEED TO DO BEFORE THAT. BUT I THINK WE'LL I THINK WE'RE NEARLY THINK WE'VE GOT 99.9% OF THE AGREEMENT DONE. MAYBE A COUPLE OF VERY SMALL TWEAKS. LAST WEDNESDAY WAS THEY WANTED US TO SET ASIDE AN AREA ON THE ON THE CIVIC LANDS FOR POTENTIAL FOR A FUELING CENTER FOR THEIR BUSSES. SO THAT'S ALSO WILL BE INCLUDED. AND THEN AGAIN, JUST MAKING SURE THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE ABOUT NUMBER OF BUSSES, THE FARM PROPERTY, WHICH I THINK IS NOT NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL. WHERE THEY HAVE, THEY A DRIVEWAY OR USE THE SAME DRIVEWAY. WE WOULD HAVE THE SAME DRIVEWAY. WE JUST AGAIN WE WOULD HAVE WE WOULD HAVE THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT MOST OF THE NEW FIRE STATIONS, RATHER THAN HAVING TO BACK IN THE BAYS, THEY CAN PULL AROUND AND LOOP IN. AND SO WE'VE INCLUDED THAT IN OUR IN OUR OVERALL PLANS FOR THE STATION WE SENT. I THINK IT'S YOU GUYS. WELL, A RENDERING KIND OF A, A OVERHEAD OF THE FIRE STATION, INCLUDING BUS AREA THAT WAS DONE BY. TWO WRI COLUMBUS WHO DREW UP PLANS. AND AGAIN, I THINK IT'S I THINK IT PROVIDES AMPLE ACCESS FOR BOTH. ALL

[5. Discuss Request to Approve Civil Engineering Services for a New Fire Station(Jay Anderson)]

OKAY. FOR THE SAME PROPERTY THAT ERIC WAS JUST TALKI ABOUT GETTING FROMCHOOL SYSTEM, WHICH THE ADDRESS IS 31. IS WE HAVE BEEN PLANNING, AS ERIC MENTIOOF TIMES, TO BUILDIRE STATION, A COUPLE NEW FIRE STATIONS. STARTING WITH THAT ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. WE ACTUALLY DID CONTRACT WITH TWO ARCHITECTURE OUT OF COLUMBUS. WE'VE USED THEM ON MANY, MANY PROJECTS. WE STARTED WORKING WITH THEM ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO ON DESIGNING A NEW FIRE STATION. AND BASICALLY THE DESIGN FOR THE FIRE STATION. THE BUILDING IS

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IT'LL HAVE TWO DRIVEWAYS, ONE IN, ONE OUT, WHICH WILL REQUIRE A GDOT PERMITS BECAUSE ROANOKE ROADS, STATE HIGHWAY, THEY'LL DESIGN THE WATER RETENTION PONDS, SO FORTH. SO THEY BASICALLY DESIGN THE SITE. THEN WE'D BE READY TO PUT IT OUT TO BID IN ABOUT 30 TO 45 DAYS IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE PLAN FOR THE BUILDING, THAT WOULD THEN GIVE US THE PLAN FOR THE SITE. AND WITH THOSE TWO PLANS, WE'D BE READY TO PUT IT OUT FOR BID. SO WE ASKED HARRIS GRAY, WHICH IS A CIVIL ENGINEERING FIRM OUT OF WEST POINT. THERE ARE OUR ONE LOCAL CIVIL ENGINEERING FIRM, AND WE'VE USED THEM SEVERAL TIMES. WE ASKED THEM TO SUBMIT A QUOTE.

THEY SUBMITTED A QUOTE FOR GIVING US THE FULL SURVEY SERVICES, CIVIL ENGINEERING, DESIGN SERVICES, ALL THE DOCUMENTS NEEDED HELP US WITH ALL THE PERMITTING, CONSTRUCTION SERVICES. THE GDOT PERMITS, EVERYTHING THAT'LL TAKE THE EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL PLANS. WE HAVE TO HAVE EROSION PLAN, AND HAVING THAT SUBMITTED TO THE STATE FOR APPROVAL, SO THEY HELP HANDLE ALL OF THAT SITE STUFF. AND THEIR PROPOSAL FOR US WAS $64,000 A COPY OF IT'S IN THE PACKET. AND SO TONIGHT I'D BE ASKING PERMISSION IF WE CAN, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A CONTRACT WITH THEM SO THAT THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND START THE CIVIL PLAN. AND THEY SAID THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT DONE IN 30 TO 45 DAYS, TO WHERE THEN AGAIN, WE'D HAVE THE BUILDING PLAN AND THE CIVIL PLAN. WE'D BE READY TO PUT IT OUT TO BID WITH GENERAL CONTRACTORS. AND AROUND THE SAME TIME WE WOULD BE ABLE TO EXECUTE THE, THE WHATEVER DOCUMENTS FOR THE LAND. SO QUESTIONS THIS FIGURE RIGHT HERE WAS ALSO ALLOCATED INTO THE CROSS FIRE. YES. OKAY. SO ONCE WE SETTLED, ONCE WE SETTLED ON THAT PIECE OF LAND, THEN THEN I REMINDED ERIC, I SAID, WELL THEN THE ONLY PIECE WE'RE MISSING IS THE CIVIL DESIGN. AND SO IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, THEN WE'D BE READY TO PUT IT OUT TO BID WITH THE GENERAL CONTRACTORS. SO THAT'LL BE ON YOUR AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. GOOD NIGHT. ALL RIGHT. NOW TO MISS WEST. OKAY. GOOD MORNING. DURING THE BUDGET MEETINGS, WE DISCUSSED THE ADDITIONAL CAMERA SYSTEM THAT WE WERE REQUESTING AND CAMERA AND STREAMING EQUIPMENT THAT WE REQUESTED THROUGH GRANICUS. WHO IS OUR THE CURRENT PEOPLE THAT DO THAT AND WHAT IT WOULD DO, IT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF THE BURDEN OFF OF ME AND STAFF TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CAMERAS ARE POINTING THE RIGHT WAY AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT TYPE OF THING. IN ADDITION TO THAT. AND I TOLD YOU THERE WAS ANOTHER COST THAT THAT IS INVOLVED, AND THAT'S THE INTEGRATION AND THE INTEGRATION WITH THE CAMERAS, WITH THE OTHER AV EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAD INSTALLED THAT, YOU KNOW, INCLUDED THE TVS AND, AND ALL OF THE OTHER LITTLE PIECES THAT WE HAVE IN A BIG RACK THAT'S BEHIND THE BEHIND THIS ROOM WE TALKED TO. WELL, I TALKED TO A COUPLE VENDORS, ACTUALLY, BUT THE BEST ONE REALLY TO GO WITH WOULD BE WHO THE PEOPLE WHO INSTALLED OUR EQUIPMENT WOULD BE PLATT'S COMPANY. THEY WERE W.H. PLATT'S, BUT THEY WERE BOUGHT OUT. AND SO NOW THEY'RE JUST PLATT'S COMPANY. CURRENTLY THEY HOLD THE STATE CONTRACT FOR INSTALLATION OF AV EQUIPMENT. SO WE WOULD GET, YOU KNOW, VERY COMPETITIVE PRICING AND COMPLIANCE. WE'VE WORKED WITH MET WITH THEM. GRANICUS GROUP IT AND TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW THE LOGISTICS OF GETTING IT DONE. AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE END OF SEPTEMBER THAT LAST WEEK. SO TO GET THE EVERYTHING INSTALLED. BUT THE PLATT'S COMPANY NEEDS TO GO AHEAD AND ORDER THE REPLACEMENT EQUIPMENT FOR THE EQUIPMENT IN THE BACK THAT'S FAILING, THAT'S NOT WORKING, AND ALSO SOME UPGRADES TO IT THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE IN THE LAST, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE OVER FIVE YEARS

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LIKE RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT WORKING AT ALL. AND TALKING TO THEM. SO IT'S FRUSTRATING. AND I'VE TALKED WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, ABOUT WHAT WE COULD DO ABOUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS. AND THEY ACTUALLY THEY COME IN AND DO A MAINTENANCE ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR. AND I THINK THAT'S LATER TO BE THEY CHARGED US WHEN IT CAME. THEY DID IT FOR LIKE $800. BUT CONSIDERING WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM AND HOW THEY SPEND ALL DAY, I THOUGHT IT WAS WELL WORTH IT, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY BREAKDOWNS. BUT OUR PROBLEMS ARE THAT SOME OF THE OTHER BOARDS, THEIR STAFF, COME IN THERE AND THEY'LL UNPLUG WIRES AND NOT PLUG IT BACK IN. AND IT CERTAINLY IS FRUSTRATING TO COME IN ON A BOARD, BOARD OF COMMISSION, MEETING DAY AND OTHERS HAVE DISCONNECTED THINGS WITH THE SYSTEM. SO THE AUDIO WHEN I WENT IN ON THIS AUDIO AND THERE'S ANOTHER LITTLE ITEM THAT I CAN FORGET, ALL OF THE BUTTONS WERE TURNED DOWN AND I HAD ALREADY TAKEN A PICTURE WITH MY CAMERA FOR BOTH OF US, LIKE IT WAS NOTHING LIKE THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I'LL HAVE A LOT MORE CONTROL OVER WHAT HAPPENED DURING OUR MEETING THAN THEY WILL DURING THEIR MEETINGS WITH ME AS TO HOW THEY WANT THEIR BODY TO SOUND. BUT I THINK OUR BODY IS A LITTLE BIT UP TO DATE, AT LEAST FROM WHAT I CAN HEAR FROM HERE. BUT LIKE I SAID, THEY, THEY THEY SAID THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE AN EXCELLENT EXPERIENCE WITH THEM.

CLEARER AUDIO AND VIDEO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GOING TO FUNCTION SEAMLESSLY. LIKE RIGHT NOW WE'LL HAVE WHERE THE INTERNET WILL DROP OFF OR WHATEVER. AND SOMEHOW, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE EXPLAINING TO ME AND I'M LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT A REAL I'M NOT THAT TECHNICAL. I KNOW A LOT ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT SOMEHOW IT'S GOING TO BE SORT OF SELF-CONTAINED IN THIS NEW RACK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD. IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH BIGGER BECAUSE WE SQUEEZED EVERYTHING

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SO DO WE KNOW IF THERE'S ANOTHER COUNTY THAT'S USING THIS NEW SYSTEM THAT, I MEAN, CONSIDERING THE ISSUES WE'VE HAD WITH THEM BEFORE UP TO THIS POINT, IS THERE SOME OTHER COUNTY THAT WE COULD OR CUSTOMER THEY HAVE THAT WE COULD JUST CHECK WITH TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS UPGRADE WILL DO WHAT WE WANT TO? WITH YOU ON THAT CALL COUNTY. I THINK IT'S A BIG COUNTY. THEY THEY'RE ACTUALLY BASED IN SOUTH CAROLINA NEAR CHARLESTON. THAT'S WHERE THE COMPANY'S ACTUALLY BUILT.

WE'VE MET WITH THEM LAST WEEK, AND THEY DO OFFER A LOT OF SERVICES. I THINK BARTOW COUNTY WAS ONE, I BELIEVE. SO PART OF THE ISSUE IS IT'S THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT VENDORS THAT ARE DOING YOU GOT GRANICUS THAT'S RUNNING THE MINUTES UP AND YOU GOT AND THEN SO, SO MANY DIFFERENT GROUPS AND YOU'VE GOT THE BRANCH PROVIDING IT. AND SO YEAH, YOU KNOW SOMETIMES I FIND IT TO BE A FINGER POINTING GAME SOMETIMES OF WHO'S WHO'S PROBLEM IT IS. AND SO AGAIN IT'S A I WAS I WAS PRETTY TOUGH WITH THEM ON THE PHONE LAST WEEK AGAIN JUST FRUSTRATED WITH THE SYSTEM. SO SATISFACTION GUARANTEED 90 DAYS FIRST 90 DAYS. IF YOU'RE NOT HAPPY WOULD THAT'D BE GREAT. I MEAN, I THINK THE WORST THING CAN HAPPEN TO US IS ALL THE PROBLEMS WE'VE HAD. IF WE WAKE UP 90 DAYS FROM NOW AND WE'RE STILL HAVING SIMILAR ISSUES WITH THEM, SO THEN WE CAN DO THAT.

THEY SAID THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO COME DOWN AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S STILL WORKING AND EVERYTHING. SO I FEEL, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, IT DID COME DOWN SEVERAL TIMES AND MAKE SEVERAL ADJUSTMENTS. SO I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THEM DOING THAT. AND LIKE YOU SAID, REALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, HAVING THEM COME IN. AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S RUNNING SMOOTHLY.

BUT CONSTRAINED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT WE HAVE SEVERAL PIECES THAT FAILED RIGHT NOW. I HAVE NO IDEA THAT THAT HAD HAPPENED. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, I, I CALLED ONE OF THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WAS INVOLVED IN, IN, YOU KNOW, IN FIXING IT, AND THEY WERE LIKE, WELL, THIS PIECE DOESN'T WORK. AND SO AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, WHERE IS IT? YOU KNOW, SO IT WAS JUST IT WAS JUST A LOT. BUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEM COMING IN AND MAKING SURE THAT IT'S WELL MAINTAINED AND, AND, AND THAT WE'LL HAVE A REAL GOOD AUDIO VIDEO EXPERIENCE, INVITE MARK TO COME OVER AND MEET WITH THEM WHEN THEY COME. FUNDING COME OUT OF FIVE. YESTERDAY WE GOT SOME FUNDING THERE THAT WE BELIEVE FROM. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? RIGHT. IF NOT, THEN WE'LL DISCUSS THIS AGAIN TONIGHT. ALRIGHT. KEVIN, ARE YOU THE MAN TODAY OR IS JAMES.

KEVIN. HE ALWAYS GETS ME, SO I JUST, ALWAYS I ALWAYS MESS WITH THE CHURCH ON SUNDAYS AFTER HE, AFTER A COMMISSION MEETING BECAUSE HE ALWAYS SEEMS JUST. MAKES THAT THOUSAND SO. WELL I NEVER ASKOR SOMETHING WE DON'T THAT WE BEGAN IN 2021. WE LOST 20 DUMP TRUCKS FROM THE FLEET PRIOR TO THAT. IN RECENT HISTORY WITHOUTEPLACEMENTS. WE WERE GETTING OLDER. REPAIR COSTS EXCEEDING VALUE. BECAUSE OF THE MULTIPLE PURCHASING ADVANTAGES THAT WE POSSESS AS A COUNTY GOVERNMENT, WE'VE ADOPTED A LONG TERM APPROACH TO ENGAGE IN A REPLACEMENT PURCHASE BUYBACK PROGRAM AS DIRECTED BY THIS COMMISSION BOARD THAT ENABLES US TO KEEP OUR FLEET CURRENT AND NEW WITH VERY LITTLE COST. ONCE THE FLEET IS FULLY ESTABLISHED.

IDEALLY, WE BELIEVE THE CORRECT SIZE OF OUR FLEET SHOULD BE FOR TANDEM DUMP TRUCKS. IN ADDITION TO TWO MEDIUM DUTY DUMP TRUCKS. TANDEM DUMP TRUCKS IN OUR FLEET BUILT ACCORDING TO OUR SPECS WITH A LIFT GATE. UNLIKE OTHER DUMP TRUCKS, SAVE US UNMEASURABLE AMOUNTS OF MONEY WHEN HAULING VEGETATION, ESPECIALLY IN RESPONSE TO STORMS. OFTEN, IN ADDITION TO

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THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THIS EXPENSE IS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. CIP. TO REITERATE THE NUMBERS THE LAST TIME AROUND, AND THESE FLUCTUATE WITH THE MARKET. BUT THE TRUCK THAT YOU PURCHASED IN 2021, YOU PURCHASED FOR A PRICE OF APPROXIMATELY $148,000. IN 2023.

WHEN IT WAS TIME TO PURCHASE. AGAIN, A LOT OF MARKET FACTORS HAD CHANGED, AND THE PURCHASE PRICE OF THE NEW TRUCK HAD GONE UP TO 191. APPROXIMATELY $191,000. THE TRADE IN VALUE THAT WE WERE GIVEN FOR THAT TRUCK THAT WE HAD PURCHASED ALMOST TWO YEARS PRIOR WAS EQUAL TO THE NEW PURCHASE PRICE, SO THEY PAID US AS A TRADE IN FOR THAT OLD TRUCK. $43,000 MORE THAN WE PAID FOR IT AS A TRADE OFF THAT WE GOT ONE OF THOSE TRUCKS. FOR ZERO CASH EXPENDITURE WHEN WE PURCHASED ANOTHER. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THE PROGRAM WILL ALWAYS WORK EXACTLY THAT WELL, AS YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IN THIS CHART, WE'VE GOT THE NUMBERS CURRENTLY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TRADE IN VALUES ON THE TWO THAT WERE PURCHASED THE LAST TIME AROUND ARE JUST A HAIR LESS THAN WHAT WE PAID FOR THEM. WE PAID 191 AND NOW THEY'VE GOT A TRADE IN VALUE.

ALMOST TWO YEARS LATER OF 190. AND THE COST OF THE NEW TRUCKS HAS GONE UP. THERE'S ACTUALLY ONE THAT'S A 2025 AND THREE THAT ARE 2020 SIXES. THE WAY THIS MARKET WORKS, WE HAVE TO HAVE BUYERS ORDERS IN WAY IN ADVANCE OF WHEN WE WANT TO PURCHASE THE TRUCKS. AND AS, AS, AS COMMISSIONERS HAD DIRECTED US. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TOWARD THAT GOAL AND HAVE WORKED ON PLANNING FOR THIS FOR YEARS. AND THESE BUYERS ORDERS WERE ABOUT A YEAR AGO WHEN WE STARTED WORKING ON THESE BUYERS ORDERS. SO THIS IS WHERE WE ARE NOW. AND I KNOW MR. KINSLEY WOULD LIKE TO EXPOUND.

YEAH, I'M I'M REALLY EXCITED TO GET CHANCETALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT I THINK IS A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY. JUST TO SORT OF KIND OF EXPLAIN WHY WE AS A COUNTY GOVERNMENT HAVE SUCH AN UNBELIEVABLE ADVANTAGE IN THIS INDUSTRY OVER CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS,

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IF YOU KIND OF COMPARE HERE ON THESE TRUCKS BEFORE, THEY'RE ABOUT 190,000, GIVE OR TAKE. IF WE PURCHASED A NEW ONE TODAY, 210 OUR ACTUAL COST OUT IS ONLY $20,000. SO AS KEVIN'S SPOKE OF, LET ME KIND OF GO OVER THIS WAY. MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE ON THESE TWO TRUCKS THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE POSSIBLY WILL TRADE IN HAS BEEN VERY LITTLE TO ZERO, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF ISSUES, WARRANTY ISSUES. WE TAKE IT BACK TO THE VENDOR AT NO COST TO US.

REPAIRED COMES BACK. WE KEEP THEM SERVICED. SO I WOULD THINK THERE AGAIN REITERATING IT'S A GOOD POSITIVE DIRECTION TO GO FOR THE COUNTY. SO LIKE I SAID THE COST UPFRONT IS OUR BIG COST. THESE ARE NOT LEASED, BUT THEY ARE BASICALLY PURCHASED. BUT WE'RE GETTING OUR MONEY BACK AS WE KEEP GOING. SO I'M A BIG FAN PERSON. I'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS ABOUT 40, ABOUT 42 YEARS NOW. IF WE WILL KEEP GOING IN THIS DIRECTION JUST TO PICK ON THESE FOUR TRUCKS EVERY THREE, FIVE, SEVEN YEARS, WE CAN START REPLACING OUR VEHICLES, THE FLEET, THROW IT ALL OUT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE FLEET. NOT THAT WE WOULD DO IT FOR THE ENTIRE FLEET, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE HEAVY USERS AND SO FORTH. THREE, FIVE, SEVEN YEAR TURNAROUND, GOOD FLEET MAINTENANCE COST IS DOWN. LIKE JAMES HAD REFERENCED, A LOT OF THINGS ARE COVERED UNDER WARRANTY FOR THE FIRST YEAR, 100,000 MILES. SO I AM ALL FOR IT. IF YOU'VE ASKED MY OPINION MOVING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, JUST TAKE IT A STEP AT A TIME. BUT THE ONE THING WE NEED TO REMEMBER IS THE TIME FACTOR. SO IF WE IF WE AGREE TO THIS TODAY PER SE, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A TWO YEAR PLAN FOR THE NEXT ROLL, YOU KNOW, ROLL OVER, WE NEED TO START TALKING ABOUT IT PROBABLY IN ABOUT A YEAR TO GET MAC OR WHOEVER THE VENDOR MIGHT BE ON TRACK. SO TIME IS A FACTOR FOR WHAT I CALL THE 357 YEAR TURNAROUND ON OUR FLEET. MUCH BETTER COST EFFECTIVE APPEARANCES AND SO FORTH. SO IT'S JUST MY OPINION. WHAT IS DO? IS TO BUY THESE FOUR THAT23U ARE LISTED ON THE ON THE BOTTOM CHART. THEY'RE ACTUALLY NOT ALL FOR THE EXACT SAME PURCHASE PRICE, BUT THOSE ARE THE FOUR THAT WE HAVE BUYERS ORDERS FOR. AND THE TRADE IN VALUE THAT WE HAVE BEEN QUOTED BY. THIS VENDOR IS $190,000 EACH FOR THE TWO TRUCKS THAT WE PURCHASED IN 23.

AND THE DIFFERENCE THERE IS ABOUT $455,000. THEN WE'VE ALSO GOT THE TWO OLD DUMP TRUCKS THAT WE WOULD ASK TO DECLARE SURPLUS NOW, AND WE WOULD SELL THOSE THE VENDOR, THIS VENDOR WILL NOT TAKE THOSE OLD DUMP TRUCKS IN ON TRADE AS A PART OF A PROGRAM LIKE THIS. THEY THEY DEAL IN THESE LATE MODEL TRUCKS. THEY DO NOT DEAL IN THE OLD TRUCKS. AND SO THOSE DO STILL HAVE SOME VALUE. AND WE WILL OFFSET THIS DEAL BY SELLING THOSE TWO TRUCKS. WE COULD USE GOV DEALS.

WE COULD POTENTIALLY EVEN LOOK AT OTHER WAYS. THAT'S ON THE TWO OLDER TRUCKS. THAT'S THE TWO OLDER TRUCKS. AND SO THE TOTAL EXPOSURE AT THIS POINT IS FOR 55 MINUS THE TWO OLDER TRUCKS. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'LL GET FOR THOSE. WE DO KNOW WHAT WE'LL GET FOR THE TWO THAT THAT WERE PURCHASED LESS THAN TWO YEARS AGO. AND THAT'S 190 EACH. AND THAT'S ATTRACTED TO 190. EACH IS SUBTRACTED FROM THE FOUR NUMBER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. NO, THE TOTAL OF OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I

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JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE. SO SERVICE WISE IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN GOOD. SO IF I CAN SAY THIS, MAYBE I'M OUT OF LINE ON MOVING FORWARD WITH THE 800 000 UPFRONT COST. IF WE MOVE, WE PAY FOR IT.

NOW LET'S JUST SAY ALL FOUR WITH THE EXCEPTIONS OF THE TRADE AND SUPPORT. BUT MOVING FORWARD, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO START OUR SAVINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL GOING TO COST US, BUT WE'LL CONTINUOUSLY HAVE THAT ROLLOVER IF WE CHOOSE TO ROLL OVER. IF NOT, WE MAY HAVE TO GO, YOU KNOW, THREE, 4 OR 5 YEARS WITH THESE TRUCKS AND THEN THEY'LL AGE AND THE ISSUES START COMING UP. SO THAT'S A THAT'S A THOUGHT. SO THE BUYBACK PROGRAM REALLY I KNOW YOU SAID YOU GOT BEHIND IN PRODUCTION. RIGHT. BUT NOW IS IT LIKE A EVERY 12 MONTH. IS THAT TYPICALLY THE WAY IT HAPPENS. WE NEED TO KEEP THE 13 MONTHS. AND THEN IT'S. ON THIS PROGRAM.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA LABOR PURCHASING STAFF AND ACCOUNTING STAFF TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS SO COMPARED TO KEEPING THESE THINGS. THE OVERALL BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY, WE REALLY THINK OUTWEIGHS THAT, THAT TIME THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND DOING THIS.

PRESENTATION TO. THAT EASIER WITH THE DUMP TRUCK OR THE ROLL OFF? IT'S. PHOTOS THAT I'VE GOT.

THIS IS NOT THE STANDARD TAILGATE THAT MOST DUMP TRUCKS HAVE. IF THEY'RE REALLY INTENDED FOR THE TYPICAL USE OF TANDEM DUMP TRUCKS FOR HAULING GRAVEL AND DIRT AND ASPHALT, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A LIFT GATE LIKE THIS, BUT WE ORDER THEM WITH THIS LIFT GATE, WHICH ALLOWS THINGS LIKE VEGETATION TO SLIDE OUT WHEN WE DUMP IT. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THIS TYPE OF GATE, YOU LOAD THAT TRUCK WITH A BUNCH OF TREE DEBRIS THAT WE COLLECT DURING A STORM. IT WON'T DUMP OUT OF THERE. IT'S A REAL PROBLEM. AND SO YOU HAVE TO GO TOWARDS SOMETHING MORE LIKE ROLL OFFS. WE DO HAVE ONE OLD ROLL OFF TRUCK IN OUR FLEET RIGHT NOW. WE DO HAVE ONE, RIGHT? RIGHT. WE MEAN WE KEPT ONE WHENE SANITATION BUSINESS, WE KEPT ONE. AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE USE EVERY DAY, BUT BUT WE USE IT WHEN WE NEED IT. THESE GATES DO OPERATE LIKE NORMAL SWING GATES. IT'S A VERY VALUABLE TRUCK. AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET SO MUCH VALUE AS A TRADEE SPECIFICATIONS AND I DON'T KNOW. IT'S JUST TWO YEARS AGO, I THINK VERY LITTLE DIFFERENCE. THERE ARE SOME THINGS ON THESE TRUCKS THAT WE WOULDN'T ORDER IF WE WERE PLANNING TO USE THESE AND NOT HAVE THEM IN A PROGRAM, BUT BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE THAT MAXIMUM VALUE TO TRADE IN. THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT WE DO SPECIFY TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT VALUE IS HIGH. LIKE LIKE SOME

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[8. Discuss Active Life Convectional Oven]

SESSION, BUT THANK YOU. I HAVE THREE IMPORTANT IMPROVEMENTS TO PRESENT THIS MORNING THAT WILL GREATLY IMPACT OUR OLDER ADULTS IN TROUP COUNTY. BUT BEFORE I START, I'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THE TROUP COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. OVER THE YEARS, I FIGURED OUT I'VE SERVED OUR OLDER ADULTS FOR OVER 27 YEARS. FIRST TEN YEARS CONTRACTED BY THE COUNTY, AND LAST 17 IS AN EMPLOYEE, AND TROUP COUNTY HAS BEEN SO SUPPORTIVE OF ITS OLDER ADULTS.

AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PART IN THAT. AND THE TROUP COUNTY ADMINISTRATION, TOO. AND SO I APPRECIATE ALL THAT. OVER THE YEARS, I BELIEVE WE'VE IMPACTED THOUSANDS OF OLDER ADULTS IN OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU HAVE SUPPORTED. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THIS SUMMER, IN ALL THREE CENTERS OF THE ACTIVE LIFE, WE'VE SEEN AMAZING GROWTH SINCE JUNE IN THE LAGRANGE CENTER ALONE, OVER 110 NEW MEMBERS HAVE JOINED, AND HOGANSVILLE 19 AND WEST POINT TEN. AND SO WE'VE WE'VE SEEN THIS INCREASE OF GROWTH. AND SO I, I WANT TO MENTION THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL DOUBLE STACK CONVECTION OVEN THAT WOULD HELP US TO BETTER SERVE THIS GROWING POPULATION. AND OUR KITCHEN CURRENTLY PREPARES 250 TO 300 MEALS EACH DAY FOR OUR OLDER ADULTS. OF THAT, ABOUT 100, OR FOR OUR HOMEBOUND SENIORS. AND UNFORTUNATELY, ON OUR BUSIEST DAYS IN LAGRANGE, WE SELL OUT ALL THE FOOD THAT'S PREPARED IS NOT ENOUGH TO SERVE ALL OF THE PARTICIPANTS, AND WE SOMETIMES HAVE TO, ON OUR BUSIEST DAYS, TURN PEOPLE AWAY. AND I THINK THAT TO MEET OUR GROWING NEED TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL OVEN WOULD BENEFIT ALL THREE CENTERS. I'VE MET WITH THE MAINTENANCE TEAM, THE FIRE EXTINGUISHER COMPANY THAT SERVES OUR COUNTY, AND THE FIRE MARSHAL, AND WE'VE COME UP WITH A DESIGN TO ADD THIS ADDITIONAL OVEN WITH OUR WITH OUR CURRENT HOOD SPACE THAT PROVIDES SAFETY AND PROTECTION IN CASE OF A FIRE, SO THAT THIS WOULD FIT IN THE EXISTING SPACE AND WOULD NOT REQUIRE BUT MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO OUR GAS LINES INTO OUR FIRE EXTINGUISHER LINES. BUT THIS WOULD ALLOW THE KITCHEN TO SIMULTANEOUSLY COOK MORE MEALS THAT WOULD BENEFIT ALL THREE CENTERS, AND IT WOULD BE MORE EFFICIENT WHEN WE HAVE A SHORTAGE IN THE KITCHEN LIKE WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE EMPLOYEE THAT WE NEED TO REPLACE, IT HELP TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE MOVING EFFICIENTLY WHEN WE'RE SHORTHANDED. THE COST OF THIS, THIS ADDITIONAL CONVECTION OVEN IS 12,245. IT'S SOMETHING THAT I REQUESTED AS A CAPITAL EXPENSE, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO HAVE THAT. WHY IS THERE SUCH A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE BUILDING? NO. SOME REASON.

IT DOESN'T DO. YES. YES DO. DO WE STILL PROVIDE THE MEALS. SO IT'S VERY MINIMAL.

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ANY QUESTIONS? I THOUGHT WE'D TAKE IT UP TONIGHT OKAY. RIGHT. NEXT ITEM IS THE

[9. Discuss Install a New Epoxy Floor System at the LaGrange Active Life Center (140 Ragland Street, LaGrange)(Dan Wooten / Jay Anderson)]

ANY QUESTIONS? TROUP COUNTY STAFF AND MYRNA, WE'RE GOING TO TACKLE A COMBINATION. PART OF THE DIFFICULT PART IS THE OVENS AND THE STOVES. AND SO IT COULD WORK REALLY WELL HAND IN HAND TO REMOVE SOME OF THE EXISTING STOVES AND PREPARATION FOR THE NEW PLAN OR CONFIGURATION OF THE ADDITIONAL CONVECTION OVEN. THAT'S WHY WE'VE MET THEM, I THINK, THREE DIFFERENT TIMES TO TRY TO WORK THROUGH THAT LOGISTICS. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? UNLIKE THE BEFORE THESE PRICES KIND OF VARY A LITTLE BIT. BUT EVERYTHING IS IT'S A. IF YOU LOOK AT THE FOUR BLACKWELL'S WAS TWICE TWICE AS MUCH AS THE OTHERS. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER THREE, THEY WEREAIRLY. WHAT I WOULD EXPECT TO BE BLACKWELL'S KIND OF SEEM HIGH. WE PREFER TO USE WHATEVER THE PRODUCT WAS. AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHY THEIRS WAS HIGHER. THEY WERE WORKING ON IT. YES, WE MET EVERY ONE OF THEM THERE AND TALKED ABOUT LABOR DAY WEEKEND, THE HOLIDAY

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BASICALLY REDO IT ALL IN THE THREE QUOTES WE HAD THERE. THE LOW IS MJR SOLUTIONS FOR $242,810, AND IT DOES HAVE A 20 YEAR WARRANTY WITH IT, JUST LIKE MOST OF ALL THESE ROOF SYSTEMS DO. SO WE WOULD BE UNDER WARRANTY FOR 20 YEARS. IT WOULD HOLD US FOR QUITE SOME TIME. WE HAVE USED MJR SOLUTIONS BEFORE THEY'RE OUT OF I THINK IT'S MANCHESTER AND WE'VE USED THEM BEFORE THAT, THAT THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB FOR US BEFORE. CERTAINLY IT IS NOT 8,090% OF THE BUILDING. THERE'S TWO PARTS, BUT I THINK THE GYMS DETACHED, THOUGH THE GYM HAS A SLOPED METAL ROOF ON IT LIKE GYMS DO. THAT'S FINE. AND THEN THE ONE I GUESS, KIND OF ENTRANCE INTO THE FRONT PART HAS A METAL ROOF, AND THEN IT JOINS INTO THE OLD SCHOOL THAT WAS BUILT IN THE 50S. AND THEN THAT'S THE PART THAT IS THE PROBLEM. SO THAT. YES. YEAH, IT'S QUITE IT'S

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IT'S FLAT ROOF. AND SO REPLACE THE OLD BLACK E E P B DM. SORRY WITH THE NEW TPO TOO MANY LETTERS. YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? WE HAD THE THREE DIFFERENT CAPITAL COUNT TWO. YEAH. AND IF ANYTHING THIS IS A CAPITAL PURCHASE TO PUT A WHOLE NEW ROOF ON A BUILDING THAT'S DEFINITELY A CAPITAL CAPITAL ITEM. WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS IN THE MAIN ROOM THAT USED TO BE THE CAFETERIA FOR THE SCHOOL OF THE PLASTER ACTUALLY COMING DOWN AND CAVING IN. SO WE HAVE THAT AREA CLOSED OFF BECAUSE OF THE LEAKS. IN THE OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE'VE BEEN CONSTANTLY REPAIRING, BUT THEY'VE BEEN GOOD SPORTS ABOUT IT, PUTTING TRASH CANS EVERYWHERE TO CATCH THE LEAKS.

BUT IT IS IT'S GETTING WORSE. YEAH. IT'S A, IT'S A LOSING BATTLE, DAN. AND IT IS CAUSING A LOT MORE DAMAGE. WE NEED TO STOP THE DAMAGE. AND HOW MANY RENTALS DO YOU HAVE NOW IN IN THAT BUILDING? LANCE CAN WHERE DID LANCE GO? OKAY, I KNOW THAT A CHURCH RENTS PART OF IT. IN THE UPPER PART, WE HAVE THE PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF MEMBERS. WE HAVE TWO GREAT FITNESS MACHINE ROOMS. WE HAVE DOWN TOWARD THE END. THE PILOT CLUB UTILIZED THAT IN THE MARINE CORPS LEAGUE TO STORE THE GIFTS THAT FOR CHILDREN. FOR THAT, THERE'S ALSO FOOD PANTRY GROUP THAT IS ON THE WING, AS WELL AS OUR ARTS AND CRAFTS ROOM IS WHEN YOU GO UPSTAIRS TO THE RIGHT, OUR ARTS AND CRAFTS AND SEWING ROOM, AND THEN THE GOD'S BREAD BASKET. DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? AND THEY THEY SERVE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE EVERY THURSDAY. AND I THINK THE ONLY RENTERS ARE THE LITTLE CHURCH FOR SUNDAY MORNING SATELLITE CHURCHES FOR BAPTIST CHURCH IN LAGRANGE. WE UTILIZE THE FACILITY. THEY USED TO HAVE A PLACE WHERE THEY WOULD MEET IN THERE. THEY DO. THEY ACTUALLY THE WHERE THE I GUESS ACTUALLY WHERE YEAH. BEFORE THE MACHINE ROOMS ON THE LEFT. THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF ROO ALL OF THEM. ALL OF THEM I KNOW THE CHURCH DOES BECAUSE LANCE AND I WORKED OUT JUST EXPANDING THERE THEIR SPACE. AND SO THEY, WE UPPED THE WE DOUBLED THE RENT. I BELIEVE WE DID SO. YEAH, I DON'T I DON'T THINK SOMEBODY WAS DOING SOME LONG TERM STORAGE THERE AS WELL. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THAT IS. SOME OF THAT IS OUR STORAGE AND PARKS AND RECREATION STORAGE. AND THEY HAVE ALSO A KIND OF A HALL OF FAME ROOM THAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED FOR HOGANSVILLE H ALLR QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. WELL, YOU CAN CONTINUE THE JAY ANDERSON

[11. Discuss Install New Duct Detectors (5) in the New Rooftop HVAC Units for the Juvenile Court Room Building(Jay Anderson)]

THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT 20 YEARS AGO IS WHEN THE JUVENILE WAS COMPLETELY RENOVATED. AND RECENTLY, ABOUT A YEAR AGO, THE BOARD APPROVED BECAUSE IT WAS ARPA FUNDS WE HAD RECEIVED, WHICH ALLOWED US TO USE FOR AIR CONDITIONING AND AIR QUALITY, IS WE PLACED A BUNCH OF AIR CONDITIONING UNITS AT THE JUVENILE, AND WE DID OTHER FACILITIES TOO. BUT WHEN WE REPLACED THE FIVE BIG UNITS THAT ARE ON THE VERY TOP OF JUVENILE, THOSE SERVE THE COURTROOM UP THERE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN UP THERE ON THE SECOND FLOOR IN THAT JUVENILE COURTROOM, BUT IT'S BIGGER THAN THIS ROOM AND IT'S TALLER CEILINGS, PROBABLY 20 FOOT TALL CEILINGS. IT'S A IT'S A VERY BIG ROOM. IS THAT WHEN IT WAS RENOVATED 20 YEARS AGO, THOSE UNITS ON THE ROOF, IN ORDER TO HAVE THE FIRE ALARM SYSTEM, YOU PUT DUCT DETECTORS THAT BASICALLY WHERE YOUR RETURN AIR SUCKS INTO THE UNIT THAT IF THERE'S SMOKE, WHICH MEANS FIRE, IT DETECTS SMOKE IN THE DUCTWORK AND THEN SETS THE FIRE ALARM OFF. NOW YOU ALSO HAVE PULL STATIONS ON WALLS AND OTHER DETECTION. BUT ONE OF THE DETECTIONS IN A BUILDING AND

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BUT NOW, AND THEREFORE TO SERVICE THEM, TEST THEM, REPAIR THEM, DO ANY MAINTENANCE ON THOSE DUCT DETECTORS. YOU HAVE TO TRY TO GET UP THERE INTO THE COURTROOM ON THE SECOND FLOOR WITH A LIFT, WITH ALL THE PEWS LIKE THIS. AND IT'S QUITE AN ORDEAL TO TRY TO DO ANYTHING WITH THOSE DUCT DETECTORS. AND IT'S REALLY NOT AN IDEAL SITUATION, BUT IT WAS THE BEST THEY COULD DO 20 YEARS AGO. WELL, WHEN WE REPLACED THOSE FIVE UNITS RECENTLY IN THE LAST YEAR THAT THOSE UNITS NOW ARE MADE, THAT ON THE ON THE ROOF, ON THE UNIT, THERE'S A PLACE TO PUT A DUCT DETECTOR IN THERE. AND SO WHAT THIS IS, IS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED A QUOTE FROM SIEMENS, WHICH IS THE PERSON WHO INSTALLED ALL OF THE FIRE FOR THIS BUILDING. AND JUVENILE, THEY'RE CONNECTED. THEY, THEY, THEY INSTALLED, MAINTAIN AND MONITOR OUR FIRE ALARM SYSTEM FOR THE TWO BUILDINGS. SO LARRY NORMAN SENT OUR MAINTENANCE MANAGER, REALIZED THAT WITH THE FIVE NEW UNITS, WE COULD HAVE A BETTER SYSTEM AND HAVE NEW DUCT DETECTORS INSTALLED IN THOSE UNITS WHERE THEY'RE EASILY ACCESSIBLE, MAINTAINED, TESTED, OPERATED. AND SO SIEMENS PRICE TO REPLACE TO REMOVE THE FIVE OLD ONES AND THEN TO PUT FIVE NEW ONES IN IS $26,156.14. AND THEIR QUOTE IS ATTACHED THERE. SO THAT IS TO DO A MUCH BETTER SYSTEM FOR WAY THAT THAT'S MONITORED AND THE WAY IT'S TESTED AND MAINTAINED. SO IT WAS THE BEST WE COULD DO 20 YEARS AGO. BUT IT'S MUCH BETTER THIS WAY. THEY DON'T DO THEIR WORK AFTER THEY, THEY'VE GOT TO.

YEAH. USUALLY THEY COME WEEKENDS. OUR MAINTENANCE OUR MAINTENANCE LARRY AND CHUCK AND BARRY AND THEY, THEY, THEY COME IN ON A SATURDAY QUITE OFTEN ACTUALLY. THEY COME IN ON SATURDAYS TO TEST THE GENERATORS THAT ARE BACK HERE TO TEST THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM, THE ALARM SYSTEMS, ALL THAT TESTING HAS TO BE DONE AFTER HOURS. SO THERE'S USUALLY LIKE ONE SATURDAY A MONTH THAT OUR MAINTENANCE STAFF IS UP HERE TESTING SOMETHING LIKE ONCE A MONTH ON A SATURDAY.

IT'S JUST PART OF BEING IN MAINTENANCE, I GUESS, SO THAT A LOT OF THAT MAINTENANCE WORK GETS DONE AFTER HOURS. A LOT OF THE ELEVATOR WORK, THEY TRY NOT TO DO THAT DURING, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S A LOT OF THAT STUFF THAT'S AFTER HOURS STUFF. SO ANY QUESTIONS? IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT TO OUR FIRE ALARM SYSTEM OVER THERE. JUVENILE. ALRIGHT. BEFORE YOU GET. YEAH I KNEW THAT WAS COMING. THE LAST ITEM IS WE HAVE BEEN OVER THE LAST YEAR OR TWO. WE HAVE BEEN. DOING DUMPSTER ENCLOSURES AS WE KIND OF GET TO THEM OR AT SOME PLACES, LIKE WHEN WE REDID THE GRAY HILL COMMUNITY CENTER A YEAR OR SO, YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WE ENCLOSED THE HEATING AND AIR UNITS TO HIDE THEM SO THAT YOU DON'T STAY AND KEEP PEOPLE FROM STEALING THEM, POTENTIALLY. SO WE WE'VE BEEN PUTTING ENCLOSURES AROUND HEATING AND AIR UNITS, DUMPSTERS AS PART OF A BEAUTIFICATION TO MAKE THE CENTERS LOOK BETTER TO IMPROVE THEM. BUT IT ALSO WHEN IT COMES TO HEATING AND AIR UNITS HELPS KEEP THEM GETTING STOLEN. AND THEN ALSO THIS DUMPSTERS THOUGH. AND IT ALSO NOT ONLY MAKES THE DUMPSTER AREA LOOK BETTER BY ENCLOSING IT, BUT IT ALSO DOES HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THE ILLEGAL DUMPING WHEN IT'S ENCLOSED. SO WE'VE KIND OF BEEN WAITING TO DO SEVERAL AT ONE TIME. AND WEST GEORGIA CUSTOM FENCE GAVE US FIVE DIFFERENT PRICES. AS YOU KNOW, YOU APPROVED WHAT ABOUT A MONTH AGO THAT WE'VE BEEN REDOING THE PARKING LOTS AT DALLAS STREET BUILDING. AND THANKS TO JAMES AND HIS GUYS, THEY ACTUALLY, I THINK ARE FINISHING THAT WORK THIS MORNING. I THINK THEY'RE OVER THERE STRIPING THE LAST PARKING LOT OR TWO. AND IN THOSE PARKING LOTS ARE DONE. AND AS PART OF THAT PARKING LOT WORK, WE ACTUALLY BUILT A NEW DUMPSTER AREA BECAUSE IT WAS KIND OF WAY OUT IN THE OPEN, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE AND RIGHT BY WHERE YOU WALKED INTO THE HUB, AND ALSO RIGHT WHERE THEY WERE DOING THE DRIVING TESTS FOR THE DEEDS. AND SO WE UP IN THE CORNER OF THE PARKING LOT, UP ON TOP, WE CREATED A WHOLE NEW DUMPSTER AREA TO GET IT, GET IT AWAY. AND THEREFORE THE LAST STEP WOULD BE TO PUT AN ENCLOSURE AROUND THAT AND TO HIDE THAT. SO ONE OF THEM IS THE A BRAND NEW DUMPSTER AREA AT DALLAS STREET. ONE OF THEM IS

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THE DUMPSTERS WERE OVER THERE. WHERE NOW PICKLEBALL IS. SO WE MOVED THEM FURTHER DOWN. WE MOVED THEM FURTHER DOWN IN THE PARKING LOT AND AWAY FROM EVERYTHING NOW AND THEN TO PUT AN ENCLOSURE AROUND THAT ONE, AND THEN TO ALSO DO SHUFORD, SINCE IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM HARRIS. AND THEN ULTIMATELY, AS WE'RE FINISHING UP WHITESVILLE ROAD RIGHT NOW, PART OF THAT PLAN WAS WE POURED A WHOLE NEW DUMPSTER PAD THAT'S IN THE BACK, KIND OF BY THE BUS BARN. IT'S A WHOLE NEW DUMPSTER PAD PARKED, POURED BACK THERE, ALL WITH CONCRETE AND EVERYTHING. AND SO IT WOULD ALSO BE TO PUT AN ENCLOSURE AROUND THAT ONE AS WELL, SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING IN THAT BACK PARKING LOT RIGHT THERE, IT'S NOT SO OBVIOUS, I GUESS. SO FIVE DIFFERENT DUMPSTER ENCLOSURES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO, TO, TO INSTALL. AND WEST GEORGIA CUSTOM FENCE HAS BEEN DOING OUR FENCING FOR QUITE A WHILE. WE'VE, WE'VE WE'VE QUOTED A LOT OF FENCING PROJECTS BETWEEN OKFUSKEE AND MULTIPLE DIFFERENT PLACES. AND EVERY SINGLE TIME WEST GEORGIA COMES UP THE CHEAPEST THE LOWEST BID. AND SO WE STARTED USING JUST UNIT PRICING WITH THEM THAT THE LAST TIME THAT THEY WERE DOING DUMPSTER ENCLOSURES FOR US, WE JUST SAID, HEY, GIVE US LIKE HOW MUCH A LINEAR FOOT, HOW MUCH A GATE, HOW MUCH A POST. AND SO NOW WE BASICALLY JUST GO WITH THE SAME UNIT PRICING. AND THAT'S WHAT HE USED FOR THESE FIVE QUOTES. WE KNOW IT'S A GOOD COMPETITIVE PRICE. THEY'RE LOCAL AND THEY ALWAYS STAND BY THEIR WORK. IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH A GATE THEY COME ADJUST THE GATE, FIX IT, REINSTALL IT. SO NOW THIS ALSO PART PART OF THE WHY WE DO IT OBVIOUSLY. OBVIOUSLYHEO KEEP REDUCE. SO IT IS ALSO INCLUDED AS PART OF CITY'S CODE AS WELL AS WELL. CORRECT? CORRECT. THEY REQUIRED. YOU TO IF YOU BUILT A NEW DOLLAR GENERAL OUT INNCORPORATED TROUP COUNTY SOMEWHE WE REQUIRE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

LL. THAT'S ACTUALLYTERS. IT'S A DOUBLE WIDE. I HAS IT'S ACTUALLY TWO TOGETHER. SO CLOSE, SO MUCH CHEAPER ARE A POS ENCLOSED WITH C.

RIGHT. IT'S LITTLE U-SHAP THE REST ACTUALLY ARE ABOUT THE SAME PRICE 4000. SIX FOOT TALL. SHUFORD IS ACTUALLY EIGHT FOOT, BUT THE REST ARE SIX FOOT, AND THEY HAVE THE BLACK SLATS IN THEM. THAT'S THE SAME AS YOU'VE SEEN ALL OF OUR OTHER PLACES. SO WE HAVEN'T HAD ISSUES WITH THE PUBLIC USING IT. Y YES, ESPECIALLY WHEN HARRIS, HARRIS, HARRIS AND BRIGGS CE YEAH. A LOE RECREATION STAFF CAN'T DUMP BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY FULL FROM THE PUBLIC, OR THEY PUT SO MUCH STUFF IN,ALLY FLOW IN THE TOP. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? THANK YOU. I CAN QUICKLY GO OVER THIS

[13. Consideration of August 19, 2025 Business Meeting Agenda(Eric Mosley)]

[12. Discuss Install Dumpster Enclosures at Five (5) Troup County Facilities(Jay Anderson)]

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[4. Discuss Tatum School Property Agreement(Eric Mosley)]

[6. Discuss AV System Upgrade and Integration(Valerie West)]

ITEM I IS THE INSTALLATION OF THE NEW EPOXY FLOOR SYSTEM UPGRADE ACTIVE LIFE. ITEM J IS CONSIDERATION OF THE ROOF REPAIR REPLACEMENT FOR HUMAN LIFE. ITEM K IS CONSIDERATION OF INSTALLATION OF NEW DUCT DETECTORS FOR THE ROOFTOP HVAC UNITS AT JUNE COURT. ITEM L IS CONSIDERATION OF THE INSTALLATION OF THE DUMPSTER CLOSURE TO THE FOSTER COUNTY FACILITIES, AND ITEM M ISERATIOT CIVIL ENGIHE N UPDATE, WHICH IS IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, IS OUR IMPACT THAT HAS BEEN SET AT ZERO SINCE ITS INCEPTION. THAT IS ALL THAT'S ON THE AGENDA. AGAIN, I WILL I WILL REMOVE THE TATUM SCHOOL PROPERTY FROM THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT, AND EVERYTHING ELSE WILL BE ON THE AGENDA. OKAY. THANK YOU. THE FLOOR AT THAT BLOCK CENTER. IF WE GET A NEW STOVE, WILL IT BE IN TOWN OR WILL IT? IT WOULD BE BETTER TO GET THE STOVE AFTER IT ANYWAYS. WOULD IT BE TO TAKE THATG TO GET TH WAY AND KEEP IT OUTSIDE AND THEN INSTALL IT AFTERWARDS? IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN

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