Jun 17, 2025 Board of Commissioners Work Session

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MORNING. LET ME WELCOME EVERYONE TO OUR TUESDAY, JUNE THE 17TH, 2025 BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS WORK SESSION. IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND, BEFORE WE START OUR MEETING THIS MORNING, IF Y'ALL WOULD ALLOW ME TO SAY A WORD OF PRAYER. OUR GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, FIRST WE THANK YOU FOR THIS NEW DAY THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE ABUNDANT RAINS THAT YOU'VE REPLENISHED THE EARTH. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR WATCHING OVER US. AS LEADERS IN OUR COMMUNITY. LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU SPEAK SPECIAL BLESSING UPON ALL LEADERS ACROSS OUR COUNTRY. AS LORD, WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN MURDERED FOR JUST BASICALLY STEPPING UP AND TAKING A POSITION IN THE COMMUNITY. AND LORD, WE JUST ASK A BLANKET FOR THEM. LORD, I ALSO ASK SPECIAL BLESSINGS UPON OUR GOVERNMENT LEADERS AND OUR MILITARY MEN AND WOMEN. WE KNOW THAT THERE IS GREAT STRIFE ACROSS THIS WORLD AND WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE IN CONTROL. BUT LORD, WE JUST ASK FOR PROTECTION FOR THEM AND WISDOM WITH OUR LEADERS AS THEY TRY TO COME TO PEACE. SO WE ASK YOU TO BE WITH US NOW. DURING THIS TIME, GIVE US DISCERNMENT AS WE MAKE DECISIONS AFFECTING OUR COMMUNITY AND BE WITH US THROUGHOUT THIS DAY. IN THY NAME WE DO PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. ALRIGHT, SO AT THIS TIME, REAL QUICK, JUST A WORD. WE EVIDENTLY HAVE FROM TIME TO TIME SOME ISSUES WITH OUR MICROPHONES AND BEING PICKED UP ON OUR RECORDING. AND SO I'M GOING TO ASK IF YOU'RE UP HERE ON COMMISSIONER OR IF YOU'RE COMING UP TO SPEAK THIS MORNING, TRY TO SPEAK JUST AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN TO THE MICROPHONE, BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO IMPROVE IT. SO THANK Y'ALL. IF Y'ALL CAN REMEMBER THAT.

[1. LaGrange Housing Authority Budget Request(Zsa Zsa Heard)]

[2. Discuss Request to Apply for Georgia Opioid Crisis Abatement Trust Grant(Jasmine Johnson)]

THE AGE ADJUSTED OPIOID OVERDOSE DEATH RATE IN TROUP COUNTY INCREASED FROM 7.1 TO 9.9 PER 100,000, SURPASSING THE GEORGIA AVERAGE OF 7.8. IN 2016 ALONE, THERE WERE 85 OVERDOSE REVERSALS DOCUMENTED WITHIN THE COUNTY. AS A RESULT OF ALL OF THAT IN OUR ACCOUNTABILITY COURT, WE WOULD

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WITH THESE DIAGNOSES, THE SERVICES WOULD INCLUDE DRUG SCREENING, PEER SUPPORT SERVICES, TRANSPORTATION. RELAPSE PREVENTION, LIFE SKILLS. SOME THINGS THAT WE WOULD ADD WOULD BE CHILDCARE ASSISTANCE AND THE LIFE SKILLS. WILL THEY LEARN TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS. SO THIS IS FOR A TWO YEAR TERM. AND WE ANTICIPATE REQUESTING A TOTAL OF $490,544 TO SERVE 72 ELIGIBLE PARTICIPANTS ACROSS THE FELONY ADULT DRUG COURT AND THE MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM. THE FUNDS WILL BE USED EXCLUSIVELY FOR DIRECT SERVICES, TREATMENT COORDINATION, PEER SUPPORT, TRANSPORTATION PERSONNEL, AND CHILDCARE ASSISTANCE TAILORED TO THESE INDIVIDUALS, AND THERE IS NO MATCH REQUIREMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HAVE YOU LOOKEDTHE PS 71,500? POPULATION COMPARISON T, SIR. OKAY. I WAS JUST WONDERING, I WAS. THESE ARE HIGH NUMBERS FOR SUCH A SMALL POPULATION. DIFFERENCE IS T CURRENTLY HAVE ABOUT 86, 86. BUT FELONY ADULT DRUG COURT ACCEPTSUT TWO PEOPLE PER MONTH MENTAL HEALTH ACCEPTS ABOUT THEY HAVE ONE OF THESE DIAGNOSES OR BOTH. MOST OF THEM ARE CO-OCCURRING. SO EVERY PERSON THAT ENTERS THOSE TWO PROGRAMS WILL RECEIVE THESE SERVICES. AND HOW LONG DOES THAT LAST? THIS WHAT I'M DOING IS A 90 DAY, RIGHT? IT WOULD JUST BE AT THE BEGINNING. SO THE PROGRAMS ARE 18 MONTHS AND WHICH THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST 90 DAYS OF THE PROGRAM. IT WILL HELP. IT WILL IT WILL HELP THEM. AS FAR AS GETTING ACQUAINTED WITH THE PROGRAM, HAVING CLEAN DRUG SCREENS, LEARNING LIFE SKILLS TO HELP THEM MAINTAIN EMPLOYMENT, GAIN EMPLOYMENT, DO RESUMES, FINANCIAL, YOU KNOW, LITERACY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND ALSO LIKE WITH CHILDCARE, BECAUSE SOMETIMES PARENTS STRUGGLE WITH GETTING TO THE PROGRAM ACTIVITIES BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE CHILDCARE OR EMPLOYMENT. JASMINE, ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR EXPANSION OF THIS PROGRAM? I KNOW COMMISSIONER SCOTT AND COMMISSIONER CAIN AND I HAVE COME. TO BELIEVE THAT THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES WITHIN OUR JAIL AS WELL, AND AGAIN, A LOT OF THOSE ARE OPIOIDS ARE CONNECTED TO THAT AS WELL. AND SO ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRANCH OUT. THE OPPORTUNITIES OUT. HE I BEEN DOG SOME RESEARCH AND WORKING WITH THIS GROUP FROM CALIFORNIA, THEIR PATHFINDER GROUP. THEY DO FACILITATE COPING GROUPS WITHIN THE JAILS IN CALIFORNIA, AND THEY HAVE WORKED TO IMPROVE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE INCARCERATED. YOU KNOW, THEIR MENTALITY AND HOW THEY COPE WITH BEING INCARCERATED. IT'S A SEVEN WEEK SESSION AND IT JUST IT'S CONTINUOUS. SO YOU CONTINUE TO GO. SO I, I'M SENDING HIM THAT INFORMATION THIS WEEK. IT'S MORE SUSTAINABLE AS THE COST BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE TO PAY A FACILITATOR. AND IF A PERSON IS IDENTIFIED TO NEED MORE SERVICES, THEY HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH COORDINATOR THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN ASSIST THEM WITH ONE ON ONE INDIVIDUALS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. ALSO, THE PROGRAMS CAN BE USED AS ONE ON ONE. IF A PERSON NEEDS MORE INTENSE. SO BUT THE GRANT, THIS GRANT CAN BE EXPANDED BECAUSE IT IS FOR A TREATMENT FOR JUSTICE INVOLVED INDIVIDUALS, AND IT COULD COVER THE COST OF THAT. I'VE READ, I GUESS WITH THE THIS SPECIFIC FUND THAT MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL GRANTS ARE ARE EVEN ARE FAIRLY HIGHLY SOUGHT OFF AS WELL. SO I WONDER IF THE POSSIBILITY LONG TERM OF BEING ABLE TO EXPAND AND PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOME OF OUR

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ABILITY TO WORK IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY WITH MULTIPLE COUNTIES TO REALLY EXPLORE AND HOPEFULLY EDUCATE OUR CITIZENS. I THINK WE CAN. I THI THE ONLY THE B WE WILL HAVE IS THAT WE BORDER ALABAMA. LEAVE BEHIND WHAT GEORGIA DOES, BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO EVEN, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT TO WORK AND EDUCATE EVERYONE. YEAH, IT WILL HELP OUR COUNTY GROW. I'M JUST CURIOUS ON THE 70 THAT THAT YOU KNOW, KIND OF STARTING WITH AND GOES TO AN 18 MONTH PROGRAM. IS THERE DOES WHAT'S THE COMPLETION RATE OR YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THAT I GUESS THE EVALUATING THE END RESULT. SO MAJORITY OF OUR PARTICIPANTS DO GRADUATE. NOW THE CONCERN IS THOSE PARTICIPANTS WHO GRADUATE AND RELAPSE. WE HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT WE ALSO WORK ON WITH OUR PEER SUPPORT SPECIALISTS, WHERE THEY ON THE END WILL BE WORKING WITH ALUMNI AND GETTING THEM MORE INVOLVED WITH THE RECOVERY COMMUNITY. ONCE THE RELAPSE, THEY'RE AT A HIGHER RISK OF COMMITTING MORE CRIMES AND NOT MAINTAINING A JOB. IT JUST TAKES FROM THE FROM OUR COMMUNITY. SO STARTING THEM OFF AND GETTING THEM TO SERVICES IN THE FIRST 90 DAYS WILL ALLOW THEM TO BE ABLE TO WORK ALL OF THE SERVICES AND LEARN THOSE SKILLS, AND WE CAN HELP THEM MAINTAIN THOSE SKILLS.

THE ENTIRE 18 MONTHS IN THE PROGRAM, RATHER THAN THEM GAINING THEM AT THE END. AND THEY WE ONLY HAVE SIX MONTHS TO 90 DAYS TO COACH THEM WITH THE SKILLS THAT THEY'VE LEARNED.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. THEN WE'LL, THANK YOU.

[3. Discuss FY26 DOT Grant Award(Denise Smith)]

[4. Discuss Troup County Website Development Upgrade(Caroline Johnson)]

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THE LAGRANGE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR IS REALLY HAPPY WITH THEIR SERVICES AND GAVE REVISED, GLOWING REVIEWS. SHE'S BEEN AN OPEN BOOK WITH ANY QUESTIONS I'VE HAD ABOUT THEIR SERVICES AS WELL, AND THEY'RE REALLY HAPPY WITH THE COMPANY. SO MOVING ON TO THE COST, THE COST OF A FIVE YEAR CUSTOM CONTRACT WITH REVISE, INCLUDING THE SPECIFIC ADD ONS THAT WE HAVE REQUESTED, IS $17,640 EACH YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS. SO THAT NUMBER, THAT NUMBER IS COMPRISED OF 20% OF THE PROJECT'S COST AND EACH YEAR'S ANNUAL HOSTING AND MAINTENANCE COSTS. IN YEAR FIVE, WE WOULD ALSO RECEIVE A FREE REDESIGN IF WE'RE INTERESTED IN THAT. AND THEN THE COST WOULD DIP TO $9,950 PER YEAR STARTING IN YEAR SIX, WITH THIS COVERING ANNUAL HOSTING AND MAINTENANCE COSTS, THIS IS A GREAT DEAL. AGAIN TONIGHT, I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY MANAGER TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT WITH REVISE FOR COMPREHENSIVE WEB DEVELOPMENT AND HOSTING, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. ANYND OF HARD WHEN YOU FIT IT IN THE MORNING LIKE WE. SO TAKE A LITTLE TIME FOR US TO COMPREHEND THIS AND I DON'T.

FORMER ON HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN I WANT TO SAY JUST LOOKING THE WAY THIS KIND OF PLAYED OUT. WHAT WHAT'S OUR PAYMENT. WE'RE IN A UNIQUE POSITION I WOULD SAY ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO MAYBE A VENDOR DESIGNED THE WEB FULL WEB DEVELOPMENT. AND THE WAY THE CONTRACT WAS WRITTEN, THE CITY

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AT THE MOMENT. SO WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND HAVING A VENDOR, LIKE AN EXTERNAL VENDOR THAT IS GOING TO DESIGN, DEVELOP AND HOST THE WEBSITE. IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN, WE DIDN'T WANT TO CONTINUE AFTER FIVE YEARS. IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, WE WOULD THEN SEARCH FOR A NEW VENDOR.

THAT MAKES SENSE. SO CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE A WE DON'T WE? WE WOULD GO TO THE CITY. THE CITY, OUR IT DEPARTMENT HOSTS OUR WEBSITE AND MAINTAINS IT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ON THE BOUNCE ON CAPITAL PURCHASING LIMITS. CHAIRMAN ASKED ABOUT

[5. Discuss Capital and SPLOST Purchasing Limits(Eric Mosley)]

BIT ABOUT THE $25,000 LIMIT TO THE COUNTY MANAGER. NOW, I KNOW THIS WAS SET UP LIKE IN 0504 SOMEWHERE IN THERE. YEAH. I WAS JUST 17. I DON'T. I THINK IT WAS 2017.S CH.

I WORK BOTH WAYS. I'VE BEEN HERE WHEN THE COUNTY MANAGER DIDN'T HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF SPENDING UNDER 25,000. AND SO WHATEVER THIS BOARD DECIDES, I CAN GO WITH EITHER WAY. SO THAT'S MY COMMENT. SO ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF CAPITAL AND SPLOOSH, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS USED FOR THAT UNDER THAT $25,000, $25,000? CURRENTLY THAT'S NOT ON YOU BUDGET ALREADY. THAT'S IN THE BUDGET, EVEN IF IT'S IN THE BUDGET, EVEN THOUGH I'M TALKING ABOUT NOT NOT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET. AND THEN THE TIME THAT. WOULD HAVE BEEN A THREE YEAR PROCESS. THAT'S RIGHT. BUT OUTSIDE OF. $25,000 AND THEN YOU THAT THAT ONLY ACCOMMODATES FOR JUST THE SPLOST CAPITAL IS DIFFERENT. WE ACTUALLY HAVEINANCE THAT GOVERNS CAPITAL, THE BOARD. PRESENT ORDINANCE. HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE BOARD. ANYTHING ONCE, BUT NOT NOT THE THOUGHTS ABOUT IT. THE GENERAL. THAT'S RIGHT. BUT. SO IT'S UNDER THE. $500 REQUIRE A AND THEN SO THE. THANKS TO THE PERSON WHO WAS AUTHORIZED BETWEEN 15,000 AND 25,000, IT'S UNDER THE COUNTY MANAGER TO APPROVE THAT. AND I WILL SAY I MEAN, LOOKING AT OTHER COUNTY, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT MANY COUNTY. THE 25,000. THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT A COUNTY MANAGER IS LIMITED TO SPENDING IN ANY FUND. AND I THINK ALSO WORTHY OF DISCUSSION AT THIS

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BUT WHENEVER THAT DECISION WAS MADE, IT CAME BACK TO THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT. YEAH. AFTER THE FACT. EXACTLY RIGHT. AND THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED THAT DIDN'T COME BACK TO THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT HAS BROUGHT THIS UP. THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT. THERE'S A REASON THAT THAT HAPPENED THAT DID NOT COME TO THE BOARD COMMISSIONERS. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IT PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS AFTERNOON. SO WE HAD PROPOSED OR WE ARE GOING TO PROPOSE ON JULY 1ST, AN UPDATED FINANCIAL POLICY THAT INCLUDES THESE. CIP FUNDS THAT WERE COMING FROM THE CIP. EVERY PROJECT, EVERY PURCHASE WASMINGG A ZERO PURCHASE LIMIT ON SPLOSS, FOR EXAMPLE, JUST PURCHASING SOME GRAVEL FOR A DIRT ROAD IS $2,700. SO NOW THAT WOULD BE DELAYED UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. BEFORE THAT, IF I'M FOLLOWING WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO COME TO THE BOARD FOR THAT $2,700.

THAT'S WHAT THAT NUMBER WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE ROOF WALK THROUGH THAT IS WAS IN BUDGET. YEAH. WE HAD 3 OR 4 PROJECTS THAT'S COME UP THAT I WAS CALLED ABOUT THAT. WE IF WE CHANGE THEN WE BROUGHT EACH ITEN EXAMPLE WAS LAST. THERE WAS A RECENT ROAD RESURFACING OVER AT THE DRIVER SERVICES HEALTH DEPARTMENT BUILDING. AND SO I JUST ASKED JAMES TO PUT IT ON HOLD. AND SO THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT ARE GOING THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME DELAYS IN SOME THINGS. SO WE JUST NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT, BE MORE ITEMS THAT WILL COME BEFORE US. WE'LL SEE. QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. I CAN ANSWER T AND RESEARCH THOSE. PROVED. AND THE FLOORING DOWN. THAT $2,500 AND THAT DIDN'T COME. PROJECT OF THE ROAD PROJECT. THAT THAT THAT WAS. DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MANY ITEMS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE PUT IN A PARTICULAR SPOT? I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE 1 OR 2 ON CAPITAL IN THE YEARS THAT WE'VE HAD THAT ACCOUNT. BUT IN THE ACCOUNT AND YOU HAVE AN IDEA HOW MANY ITEMS THAT WE PROBABLY PAY, THAT 125,000, 20,000 ANNUALLY. I PURCHASED THE ROAD, MAYBE GO WITH SOME INVOICES AND IT WAS JUST A QUICK FIX, I SUPPOSE A QUICK PATCH OF SOME MATERIAL THAT WAS NEEDED. THOSE THOSE TYPE, THOSE SIZE FOR THOSE PROJECTS ARE OFTEN SECTION THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON. AND THEY ARE VERY SMALL INVOICES THAT ARE FOR A LARGER PROJECT. THE SON YOUNG LITTLE, SMALL INVOICES. HOW MUCH DOES THAT ADD UP INTO A YEAR THAT THIS BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT? I WOULD HAVE TO GO CALCULATE IT FOR YOU. OKAY? IT'D BE GOOD. I CAN DO THAT. I THINK ITEM NUMBER 11 IS ONE OF THOSE EXAMPLES RIGHT NOW. BUT I'M NOT. YES. BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE OVER THE $25,000. SO WE WOULD POSSIBLY HAVE TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, OUR GUIDELINES AS FAR AS GIVING OUT CERTAIN I MEAN THAT'S THAT'S JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE. HERE IN THE FUTURE THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE NOT HAD TO.

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ANY REPORTING THAT YOU DESIRE, WE CAN PRODUCE THAT FOR YOU AND SUBMIT IT TO YOU ON A REGULAR BASIS, IF THAT WOULD HELP. I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO DO SOME KIND OF QUARTERLY REPORT, GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE SPENDING. THAT'S THAT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET. YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDS. AND THE SECOND PIECE TO THAT WOULD BE HOW CAN WE FORECAST THE NEXT YEAR IF WE SEE THAT WE'RE SPENDING X AMOUNT OF MONEY ON ROADS THAT WE DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR, CAN WE CREATE SOME KIND OF DISCRETIONARY FUND THE NEXT YEAR TO HAVE THAT MONEY ALREADY IN PLACE? WE ALSO DO A PROJECT WORKSHEET WHERE WE TRACK THE BALANCE ON THE PROJECTS, AND THAT CAN BE SUBMITTED. AND THAT'S THAT'S A LARGE SCALE THAT'S UPDATED EVERY WEEK ALMOST, OR EVERY OTHER WEEK. AND THAT COULD BE PROVIDED. THAT WOULD SHOW A LOT OF INFORMATION TO YOU THAT I CAN PROVIDE FOR YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE, YOU KNOW, AS WE AS WE LOOKED INTO THIS, I'LL, SPEAK TO THE C LAGRANGE. I TALKED TO PATRICK BUI. THEY DO A. THE MONTH. AND SO AT EVERY BOARD MEETING IS PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT THAT THEY PROVIDE A FULL ALL EXPENSES TO THEIR BOARD. AND I THINK THAT. ALL BEHIND THE SCENES. SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'LL BE INTERESTED IN, WE CERTAINLY COULD CREATE THAT REPORT TOO. THAT WOULD BE WITH THE NEW WORLD WOULD BE FAIRLY EASY TO GENERATE. AND THEY SEND THAT PROJECT AND THAT'S HOW IT'S TRACKED. AND SO EVERY EXPENSE WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT. AND THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TOO. AND, AND IT COULD GO WITH THE CHECK REGISTER.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS. JUST TO BE CLEAR, ARE WE WANTING TO VOTE OS EVENING OR OR. IF YOU.

THAT TONIGHT, $25,000. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GET INTO POLICY IN PERSON, BUT THIS THIS IS SEPARATE. YEAH. THAT IS THE CURRENT. THAT'S WHY I WANT TO TALK TO THIS ONE THIS AFTERNOON. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO GET BROUGHT DOWN TO ACHIEVING FOR OUR PURCHASES. NOT NECESSARILY. FOR SPLOST AND CAPITAL OR THE GENERAL FUND AS WELL. YES. YES. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM, AGENDA ITEM SIX. I'LL INVITE CHIEF STEELE TO COME FOR A SPLOSS PURCHASE. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. NIGHT. OH, WELL,

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ADRENALINE POWERSPORTS AND GRIFFIN IS ON THE STATE CONTRACT. MOMENTUM MARINE LOCALLY WAS THE SECOND WE WENT BACK TO THEM AND SAID WE'D LIKE TO PURCHASE LOCALLY IF WE COULD GET THIS APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO GET THEIR PRICE DOWN TO 19,398. AND OF COURSE, WE'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL $2,000 TO BE ADDED TO BE ABLE TO ADD THE LIGHTS TO WORKING LIGHT BARS, ANY OF THE EQUIPMENT THE RADIO INSTALLED IN THAT, AS WELL AS DOING SOME GRAPHICS. BUT A COUPLE THINGS WE CAN USE THIS OUTSIDE DISASTER SITUATIONS.

OBVIOUSLY THE BIG EVENTS AT PINE ROAD PARK, FROM THE FIREWORKS TO THE DRAGON BOAT RACES. WE EVEN COULD HAVE SAW THIS DURING GRADUATION. BEING ABLE TO WHEN WE HAD SOME MEDICAL EMERGENCIES ON ONE SIDE OF THE STADIUM, BEING ABLE TO PICK UP THAT PERSON AND THEIR FAMILY AND GET THEM TO THE OTHER WITHOUT DISRUPTING CERTAIN EVENTS. BUT THROUGH THIS TOO, WHILE IT WOULD BE AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT RESOURCE THROUGH COUNTY ASSETS, CERTAINLY IF THE WATER DEPARTMENT AND CITY OF WEST POINT CALLED SAID, HEY, WE NEED TO RIDE THIS WATER LINE, CAN WE BORROW YOUR WE WANT TO MAKE THIS AVAILABLE TO EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY AS WELL AS A STATE RESOURCE. ANYBODY MUTUAL AID CALL AND SAY, HEY, WE NEED SOME HELP WITH A SIDE BY SIDE, BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY HAVE CALLED AND ASKED FOR RESOURCES FROM OTHER PEOPLE MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES. AND I ALWAYS TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT AS THE EMA DIRECTOR, WE'RE REPAYING FAVORS WHEN WE'RE ASKING FOR FAVORS. SO AS WELL AS THAT, BUT WITH ALL THE TIMBERLAND, THE RURAL AREAS AND SOME OF THE AREAS WE'VE GONE INTO RECENTLY, WE HAD A VEHICLE FIRE THAT TURNED INTO FATALITY OF MCCOSH MILL ROAD. SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY BENEFICIAL TO US TO BE ABLE TO CARRY PEOPLE BACK AND FORTH. INSTEAD, WE ENDED UP TAKING VEHICLES DOWN IN FOR SOME OF THESE ROADS THAT REALLY PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE GONE DOWN. AND, AND WE ENDED UP ACTUALLY HAVING ONE VEHICLE WITH SOME DAMAGE. SO WE COULD ACTUALLY HELP WITH SOME OF THESE THINGS AND SOME OF THE ROUGH TERRAIN. CALLS MCCOSH MILL ROAD NORTH STATE LINE, EVEN DISPATCH TO A BOAT ON THE BANK SINKING WITH PEOPLE. POSSIBLY MISSING WAS A CALL THAT WE RESPONDED TO SUNDAY. ENDED UP BEING IN ALABAMA BY THE TIME WE GOT THERE. BUT BY THE TIME EVEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DRAW THE STATE LINE OR THE COUNTY LINE, ANYTIME THERE'S A LIFE SAFETY ISSUE, WE'RE GOING TO GO PROVIDE WHATEVER ASSISTANCE WE NEED. AND BY THE TIME WE CAN GET THERE AND CAPTAIN EVANS IS WITH US, HE HE CAN ATTEST TO THIS. WE WERE PROBABLY AT A QUARTER MILE HIKE TO THE EDGE OF THE WATER LINE WHERE WE COULD GET EVEN A VEHICLE AFTER DRIVING. SO IT CAN BENEFIT US IN A LOT OF WAYS. AND THE PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO HAVE IT AT ONE OF THE FIRE STATIONS, PROBABLY STATION 14, WHERE THAT FIRE DEPARTMENT SIDE BY SIDE IS AS WELL. AND THAT'S WHY ONE REASON WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY PROPOSING TO ADD A TRAILER FOR THIS PURCHASE IS AS WE KIND OF SEE WHICH ONE NEEDS TO GO DEPENDING ON WHERE WE CAN SHARE THAT TRAILER. BUT IF WE START SEEING NEEDS WHERE THIS IS, IF APPROVED BY YOU ALL IS A SUBSTANTIALLY USED ASSET.

CONSISTENTLY, CONSISTENTLY. WE'RE HAVING A HARDER TIME SWAPPING IT THAN WE WOULD COME BACK BEFORE YOU AND REQUEST PURCHASE A TRAILER FOR IT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THE CURRENT

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TAILGATE LETS DOWN. YES, SIR. YOU COULD DO THOSE THINGS. YEP. AT THAT PARTICULAR MODEL COMES WITH A WINCH ON IT WITH THE POLY ROPE AND THE. IT EITHER CAME WITH THE ROOF OR THE WINDSHIELD AND WE ADDED ONE OR THE OTHER. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE IT WAS WE ADDED, BUT THOSE ARE TWO ESSENTIAL, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE WORKING IN THE ELEMENTS. AND I KNOW THESE COME IN DIFFERENT WHAT WHAT ALL IS ON THIS PACKAGE AS FAR AS EXTRAS, I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY. I MEAN, DOES IT HAVE HEAT, DOES IT HAVE. NO. THAT THERE ACTUALLY IS. NO. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE FOUR DOOR MODEL,S NO DOORS. THE NET T AN ENCLOSED CAB. YEAH. IT'S NOT ENCLOSED CAB. SHIELD. AND IT CAME WITH THE ROOFER. WE HAD TO ADD THE ROOF AND IT CAME WITH THE WINDSHIELD. WE HAD TO DO ONE OF ONE OF THE TWO. BUT ALL THAT WAS WAS JUST THE BASIC ESSENTIALS TO PROTECT OUR PEOPLE AND THE CITIZENS THAT WE WOULD CARRY THROUGH THAT WHEN THEY'RE TRAVELING THE ELEMENTS THERE.

THERE WAS NO UNESSENTIAL EXTRAS ADDED TO THIS. SIX SEATER COMES WITH THE WINCH AND THE POLY ROPE ON IT. SO THAT'S NOT EVEN AN ADD ON. THAT'S THAT COMES WITH THAT MODEL. AND I GUESS I KNOW IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET IF ADOPTED THERE IT I GUESS RESTRUCTURE I WON'T SAY RESTRUCTURE THE WORD FOR EMA OR ANYTHING, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE TRYING TO GET MORE OF A COUNTY WIDE, YOU KNOW, EMA WHAT? I GUESS OTHER VEHICLES BESIDES THIS IS, IS, YOU KNOW, IS STRICTLY UNDER EMA. NOW, ACTUALLY, WHEN WE WERE FIRST DISCUSSING THIS PARTICULAR PURCHASE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW LONG, PROBABLY OVER A YEAR AGO, WHEN THAT FEMA MONEY CAME BACK, WAS WE TRANSFERRED THE 2015 FORD EXPLORER THAT I USED TO DRIVE THE MAROON ONE TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AT EMA ASSETS. AND SO CURRENTLY THE ONLY EMA ASSETS, WHEN YOU BREAK IT DOWN AS SUCH IS THE MOBILE COMMAND BUS AND THE 2023 TELLURIDE. THAT IS, WE'RE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER ACTUALLY AS EARLY AS THIS MORNING ABOUT VEHICLES AND TRANSFERRING SOME OF THAT AS WE DIVIDE THIS AT WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE RIGHT MOVE FOR AND GETTING ANOTHER VEHICLE FOR, BECAUSE IF WE'RE SPLITTING THAT, AS WE'VE ALL DISCUSSED, THEN, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO FILL MY ROLE. AND THE DEPUTY CHIEF SPOT THAT WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THAT VEHICLE FOR THEM AS WELL. GOTCHA. SO CERTAINLY DEFER TO HIS PLAN ON THAT. BUT I MEAN, BUT THOSE ARE THE ONLY ASSETS CURRENTLY TIED TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. THAT RIGHT THERE OKAY. YEAH THAT THAT WAS THE KIND OF THE AGREEMENT WITH THE FIRE CHIEF AND THE COUNTY MANAGER WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT WAS WE TRANSFERRED THAT SECONDARY FORD EXPLORER OVER TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS NOW PRIMARILY USED TO SHUTTLE OUR BASIC FIREFIGHTER STUDENTS BACK AND FORTH TO THE FIRE ACADEMY, BECAUSE WHEN WE HIRE NEW HIRES, THEY'RE OUT THERE ON THE ROAD FOR TEN WEEKS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE SEND PEOPLE FOUR TIMES A YEAR. SO 40 WEEKS OUT OF THE YEAR, THAT'S NOTHING MORE THAN BASICALLY A CAR. AND THAT SHUTTLES THEM BACK AND FORTH FOR THEIR CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENT. EDUCATION. SO WE WERE GOING TO PURCHASE THIS AS AN ASSET. AND WE TRANSFERRED THAT TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND THEN WE RAN INTO THE WAY THE MONEY CAME IN AFTER THE YEAR. AND SO WE JUST KIND OF SAT ON IT. BUT ONCE WE HAD THE ISSUE AT DURING GRADUATION OF, WE HAD A FEMALE PATIENT BACK ON THE SCOREBOARD SIDE WITH AMBULANCE TYPICALLY GOES, WE HAD FAMILY ON THE OTHER SIDE. WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM. AND THAT'S WHEN I CAME BACK TO THE COUNTY MANAGER SAID, HEY, I SAID, I KNOW WE HAD THIS IDEA ON THE TABLE A WHILE BACK, BUT I SAID, I THINK IT'S TIME WE REVISIT THIS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PINE ROAD FIREWORKS COMING UP. IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN GET DONE PRETTY QUICK, IT'LL CERTAINLY BE A BENEFIT TO US DURING THAT EVENT AND WORKING WITH LANCE AND HIS TEAM. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S WE'RE CERTAINLY EXPECTING A PRETTY LARGE CROWD THIS YEAR WITH IT BEING A FRIDAY NIGHT COMING INTO THAT. SO WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION ON THIS. ACTUALLY WE HAD MUTUAL AID WITH OTHER AGENCIES THROUGHOUT. YES, SIR. THE OTHER I BUT THIS BEING ABLE TO DO THIS, THIS WAS THE VERY FIRST THING I LEARNED IS THE EMA

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THIS. YOU KNOW. MATTER OF FACT, THIS WORK SESSION IS OVER. I'LL RUN BY THERE AND ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS. MAKE SURE WE GOT ALL THE RIGHT INFORMATION ON THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE APPRECIATE IT. CONSIDER THIS TONIGHT. ALRIGHT. NEXT ITEM.

[7. Discuss 900 Dallis Street parking lots project(James Emery)]

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WE'RE LOOKING AT SEAL COATING THAT AREA AND RESTRIPING IT. WE HAVE LOOKED AT BUDGET NUMBERS FOR EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUAL TASKS. AND ALL OF THIS IS BASICALLY DONE. YOU MIGHT SAY IN-HOUSE. I MEAN, THERE THE SEAL COATING AND STRIPING. WE'VE GOT UNIT PRICE CONTRACTS THAT WE CAN USE FOR THE MATERIALS. WE'VE GOT UNIT PRICES FOR, AND WE'VE ESTIMATED THE TOTAL BUDGET ON THAT. AND SO. $60,259.75. THAT INCLUDES A 20% CONTINGENCY. THIS IS WORK THAT, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, WE WOULD WE WOULD DO IN-HOUSE OR MANAGE IN-HOUSE THROUGHOUT. AND WE WOULD JUST THERE'S NOT ANY ESTIMATING OF LABOR TO FUEL THE EQUIPMENT. THIS IS REALLY JUST MATERIAL COSTS. AND THEN WHATEVER OTHER SMALL CONTRACT SERVICES WE WOULD HAVE AS A PART OF THE PROJECT.

I'VE GOT MORE DETAIL ON IT, BUT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT SOMETHING LIKE WE WOULD LIKE A PROJECT THAT WE WOULD PUT OUT TO BID. AND SO WE DON'T HAVE A DESIGN PACKAGE LIKE THAT PUT TOGETHER. IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE WORK ON IN-HOUSE. AND SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW JUST HOW MUCH DETAIL YOU WOULD TO SEE ON IT, SORT OFF THE LOADING DOCK. DOCK ITSELF IS

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STORMWATER DRAINAGE SYSTEM INCORPORATED INTO THAT, THAT SITE DESIGN, WE DID NOT DO THE DESIGN. WE DID DO THE CONSTRUCTION. OKAY. I LIKE TO SAY. LIKE ALL THE WORK PRETTY MUCH IN HOUSE ASPHALT WORK. THENLY THING THAT HAD A PRICE ON IS THAT. I MAY NOT.

I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. LIKE YOU SAID, 60,000 FOR WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE CONTRACT OUT TO SEAL COAT AND STRIPING. NO, NO, THAT WOULD BE OUR TOTAL. THAT WOULD BE THE TOTAL BUDGET THAT WE WOULD ASK YOU IF WE WERE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE THE EXPENDITURES FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT'S NECESSARY, THAT WOULD BE THE GRAND TOTAL OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

THAT WOULD INCLUDE ALL OF OUR MATERIAL COSTS THAT WE'RE EXPECTING. WE HAVE ACTUALLY ESTIMATED ALL OF THE MATERIAL COSTS, INCLUDING THE PRICING FOR SEAL COATING AND STRIPING. AND IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL CONCRETE FINISHING WORK THAT WE NEED. AND ALL OF THE MATERIALS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR THE PAVEMENT, DEEP PATCHING AND RESURFACING, INCLUDING THE TACK THAT WE USE, ANY BASE THAT WE NEED TO INCLUDE FOR THE DUMPSTER PAD AND THE SIDEWALK WORK. SO IT'S ALL OF THE MATERIALS. WE ESTIMATED THAT TOTAL ACTUALLY AT $50,216.46, BUT I PUT A 20% CONTINGENCY ON IT BECAUSE THIS IS. YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T WANT TO WE WOULDN'T WANT TO ASK FOR A BUDGET ON A PROJECT. AND EARLY ON. OVERAGES HERE AND THERECOULA BUDGET TO COVER. PEOPLE TO JUST PUT A 20% ON THERE. AND WE MAY NOT USE ANY OF THAT AND MAY COME IN LESS THAN WHAT WE ESTIMATED, BUT WE THINK THAT'S THAT'S A FAIR BUDGET FOR IT. THAT'S THE BUDGET FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. SONG TOOF THAT TONIG. YOU'D LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER.

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MOORE. CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS. AS YOU'RE WELL AWARE, THE PICKLEBALL COMPLEX WAS APPROVED IN DECEMBER OF 2020 FOR RIVER CITY. CONSTRUCTION STARTED SOON AFTER THAT. SO IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR ABOUT PUSHING SIX MONTHS NOW. WE'VE HAD REALLY GOOD PROGRESS. WE'RE QUICKLY

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AT THIS POINT, HE HAD ENOUGH WORK. SO THE FOUR BIDS ARE IN FRONT OF YOU THAT WE GOT. AND THE LOW BID FOR THE PROJECT IS SOUTHERN OAKS LANDSCAPE AT $52,365. SO OUR OUR ASK TONIGHT WOULD BE TO APPROVE THIS FINAL PACKAGE WITH SOUTHERN OAKS LANDSCAPING IN THE AMOUNT OF 52 365. J. IT WAS THIS 52,000 ENTERED INTO THE ORIGINAL MONIES FOR THE PICKLEBALL. I TALKED ABOUT THE WHOLE YES SIR. IT WAS YES. WHEN WE WHEN WE GOT STARTED, WHICH WAS LIKE TWO YEARS AGO, I'M GOING TO SAY THREE YEARS AGO, WHICH IS WHEN WE APPLIED TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE FOR THE $2.2 MILLION WHICH WE GOT, WHICH THAT'S ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ALL REMEMBER. WE GOT A $2.2 MILLION GRANT FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. WE GOT $750,000 GRANT FROM THE CALLAWAY FOUNDATION. SO THERE'S WHAT, 2.95 MILLION? SO LET'S SAY 3 MILLION. AND SO WE HAD TO START OUR PLANNING OF THIS WAY BACK BEFORE WE APPLIED TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE FOR THE 2.2. AND SO AT THAT TIME WE HAD A BUDGET THAT WAS IN EVERY PROJECT HAS THIS AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, WE HAVE ARCHITECTURAL AND DESIGN FEES FROM THE ARCHITECT. YOU HAVE ENGINEERING AND SOIL TESTING FEES. THEN YOU HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT THAT WE PAY FOR. THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THE GENERAL CONTRACTORS PRICE TO CONSTRUCT THE, THE, THE STICKS AND BRICKS, IF YOU WILL. AND THEN AT THE END WE ALWAYS HANDLE THE LANDSCAPE PACKAGE OURSELVES. I'VE BEEN WHERE ARE WE AT RIGHT NOW ON THE BUDGET WITH THE PICKLEBALL, THE MONEY IN SPECIFIC ON BUDGET OR UNDER? IN SPECIFIC WITH RIVER CITY, WHO WAS AWARDED THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR THE STICKS AND BRICKS, IF YOU WILL. THAT WAS. $3,599,259.81 THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER BUDGET. OKAY.

AND I ASK THE RIVER CITY YESTERDAY, SINCE WE'RE DOWN TO JUST THE NITTY GRITTY, I SAID, CAN YOU THINK OF ANYTHING THAT WOULD REALLY CHANGE THAT? AND THEY SAID, NO, BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S BEEN PURCHASED. EVERYTHING HAS BEEN BOUGHT OUT. EVERYTHING'S ALREADY BEEN ORDERED. AND THEREFORE YOU PRETTY MUCH KNOW AT THE VERY END YOU KNOW WHERE YOU STAND BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S BEEN PURCHASED. YOUR POINT AS AS WE GOT INTO THE PROJECT, WE WERE ABLE TO FIND COST SAVINGS IN THE PROJECT ITSELF. AND SO THAT'S CHANGE ORDER OR CHANGE ORDERS HAVE BEEN NEGATIVE CHANGE ORDERS, NOT CHANGE ORDERS. AND SOE THE WATER LINE AND SOME I.T ISSUES AND. KNOCK ON WOOD BUT. OTHER THAN WE EXPECT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE BUDGET OR UNDER BUDGET. YES SIR. YES SIR. HOW MUCH. UNDER BUDGET. NOW YOU'RE GOING TO NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HOLD ME TO THIS. SO. SO HESITANT ON SHOWING MY CARDS NOW AS OF YESTERDAY. 2000 UNDER BUDGET. NOW, DON'T HOLD ME TO THAT. AND IT'S 52,000 WAS ADDED INTO THE ORIGINAL BUDGET TO START WITH. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, IT WAS FOR WHOLE WHEN WE STARTED YEARS AGO, BECAUSE WE HAD TO SHOW THAT KIND OF. OH, HEY, HERE'S OUR OVERALL PROJECT SCOPE. IT INCLUDES ARCHITECTURE, ENGINEERING, I MEAN, ALL THE PERMITS. AND THEY ACTUALLY MAKE SURE YOU HAVE EVERYTHING TO WHERE THEY DON'T GIVE YOU A GRANT. AND THEN AT THE END, YOU COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, WE FORGOT TO HAVE WHATEVER. AND SO THEY MAKE SURE YOU HAVE EVERYTHING IN THERE. AND SO WE DID HAVE AN OVERALL PROJECT BUDGET THAT INCLUDED ALL THOSE ITEMS THAT I NAMED. AND THEN ANOTHER THING THEY DO IS IN DENISE IS HERE IS THEY COME QUARTERLY ALMOST THE AUDITORS

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THAT'S RIGHT. THE INITIAL CLEARING AND GRADING OF THAT SITE. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. OR WHEN WE DID MCCLUSKY, THEY WERE DOING A LOT, I BELIEVE OR ANYWAYS OF THE SITE WORK. YEAH.

SO WE DO CHIP IN A LOT TO WHERE WE TAKE IT OUT OF THE CONTRACTOR'S SCOPE IN ORDER TO SAVE MONEY OR TRY TO SAVE MONEY, TRY TO BE GOOD STEWARDS. SO. THE CITY DIDN'T. I THOUGHT THE CITY HAD SOMETHING TO. THEY DID WE? WE HAVETY. THERE WAS, THERE WAS, I'LL SAY, AN INITIAL PLEDGE FROM THE CITY TO SUPPORT AND I MEAN. THERE WAS THERE WAS AN INITIAL PLEDGE.

OKAY. NO FUNDS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED YET. RIGHT? MAYBE THE PICKLEBALL GROUP NEEDS TO GET TOGETHER AND GO TO THE CITY. WE ARE VERY LUCKY. LIKE I SAID, THAT WE GOT, YOU KNOW, 2.95 MILLION IN THESE GRANTS AND IT'N PROJECT. SO WE'RE GETTING A VERY NICE, VERY, VERY, VERY NICE PICKLEBALL COMPLEX FOR $0.40 ON THE DOLLAR. TWO OF THE 5 MILLION IS WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE PAYING. SO

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AND NOW WE'VE GOT TO DECIDE WHAT GOES ON THAT SITE. IT'S GOING TO CRASH, RIGHT. IT KIND OF A THREE STEP PROCESS WITH THAT PROJECT. ALSO NOTHING LIKE THAT ONE. AGAIN, WE HAD A GENERAL SCOPE OF THE PROJECT. WE HAD AN IDEA OF WHAT WE THOUGHT THE GENERAL COST OF THE BUDGET WAS GOING TO BE.

CERTAINLY. AND SO WE HAD TO MAKE A DECISION, I THINK. AND AGAIN, OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, WE'VE BEEN FORCED TO FACE THINGS IN JUST BECAUSE PRICE ESCALATION HAS HAS BEEN SUCH A ISSUE. AND THE GREEK CENTER IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT, THAT WHEN WE DID THE GREEK CENTER, WE HAD TO DO PHASES OF THE PROJECT JUST BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING LEVELS. WHITESVILLE ROAD IS A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE, OF COURSE, BECAUSE IT HAD PARTS AND PIECES THAT PICKLEBALL DIDN'T. IT HAD THE DEMOLITION, THE DEMOLITION AND THE REMODELING AND BRINGING THE EXISTING PARTS THAT WE'RE KEEPING UP TO CODE FIRST. SO, SO BUT BUT STILL, WE HAD AN OVERALL IDEA OR AN OVERALL BUDGET. IT HAD SOME UNIQUE FEATURES THAT PICKLEBALL DIDN'T, WHICH WAS DEMOLITION AND RENOVATING THE PARTS WE WERE KEEPING. AND NOW WE'RE KIND OF LIKE PICKLEBALL. WE'RE KIND OF ON THE FINISH LINE OF THAT TO WHERE WE'RE DOWN TO, TO THE GRASSING AND LANDSCAPING. IF YOU HADN'T, I GUESS. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? NOW WE'RE STARTING TO MIX ITEMS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ITEM? YEAH. LET ME TAKE JUST A MOMENT TO ACKN THANKS FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING. AND I UNDERSTAND Y'ALL HAVE AN ASSOCIATION THAT'S WORKING REALLY HARD TO HELP WORK AND PROMOTE THE COMPLEX. SO WE THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

AND Y'ALL WORK. THANK YOU. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS THE WHITESVILLE ROAD SOCCER THE EXPANSION PROJECT AND IN PARTICULAR THE SPORTS TURF THAT WE WOULD PUT DOWN ON THE THREE NEW FIELDS. AS YOU'RE WELL AWARE, IT WAS MARCHT WE APPROVED THE AND SPACES, I BELIEVE, WHICH WAS A HUGE NEED FOR OUR SOCCER AREA WHERE IF YOU'VE OVER THERE ON A BUSY SOCCER DAY, IT'S PEOPLE ARE PARKING EVERYWHERE. SO JUST TO REWIND ON HOW THAT CONTRACT FOR THE SITE WORK INCLUDED TWO BRAND NEW PARKING LOTS WITH 471 PARKING SPOTS, AS WELL AS THE DRAINAGE IN THE FIELDS. WE ALSO AWARDED AT THAT TIME THE LIGHTING FOR THE THREE FIELDS, WHICH WE ALREADY HAD IN, AND BOTH OF THOSE ARE WELL UNDERWAY. IF YOU DRIVE BY, THEY'RE MOVING A LOT OF DIRT, HAVE MOVED, A LOT OF DIRT STARTING TO PUT IN THE REAR PARKING LOT RIGHT NOW. I THINK THEY STARTED YESTERDAY OR TODAY, PUTTING IN THE CURB AND GUTTER FOR THE REAR PARKING LOT, WHICH IS OFF OF FORT DRIVE. AND STARTING LAST WEEK, THE LIGHTING CONTRACTOR WAS SETTING THE CONCRETE BASES FOR THE LIGHT POLES AND GETTING THOSE SET IN CONCRETE, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO START STANDING THE POLES. SO YOU DRIVE BY SOMETIME SOON, YOU'LL SEE THE POLES UP AND SO FORTH. SO IT IS MOVING AND PROGRESSING AS SCHEDULED. ALTHOUGH SITE WORK IS SOMETIMES DIFFICULT WHEN YOU HAVE RAIN EVERY SINGLE DAY. BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE MAKING PRETTY GOOD PROGRESS. SO THE LAST PART, WHICH WE EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED IN MARCH WHEN WE APPROVED THOSE, IS THIS THE THIS WOULD BE COMING IN WHICH IT IS IN NOW TO GET PRICING ON THE TURF. SO WE DID PUT INVITATIONS TO BID OUT. WE PUT A SCOPE OF WORK RFP, SCOPE FOR SPORTS TURF. IT WAS ALL POSTED ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE.

AND WE HAVE IN OUR BIDS THE OVERALL PROJECT FOR IS WE BID IT TWO WAYS. WE BID IT FOR NATURAL GRASS AND WE BID IT FOR ARTIFICIAL GRASS. WE BID IT TWO DIFFERENT WAYS AND THEN COMBINATIONS THEREOF, SO THAT WE WOULD KNOW WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE. AND SO WE HAVE THOSE OPTIONS.

THEY CAME IN. LANCE AND I HAVE BEEN REVIEWING THEM, READING THROUGH THEM, DOUBLE CHECKING THEM. AND AGAIN, THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS TO DO THE THREE NEW ONES AT THE TOP. AND AFTER REVIEWING EVERYTHING, IF YOU'LL GO, I HAVE AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET. IT MIGHT BE THE LAST ATTACHMENT IF YOU'LL GO TO THAT. JAMES. SIR. AND I. THAT THE THIS IS MOSTLY THE SAME, BUT I ADDED AT THE BOTTOM. WHAT PLAYED OUT WHEN WE GOT WAS.

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PRICES WERE PRETTY COMPETITIVE. BUT WHEN WE DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND READ THROUGH IT, THIS ACTUALLY WOULD BE THEIR FIRST SPORTS FIELD COMPLEX THEY'VE EVER DONE. IF YOU GO TO THEIR WEBSITE, THEY ARE A CLEARING AND GRADING COMPANY THAT DOES PARKING LOTS, SITE WORK, UTILITY WORK. THIS WOULD BE THEIR FIRST VENTURE, IF YOU WILL, INTO SPORTS FIELDS. SO WE DID NOT FEEL LIKE THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, QUALIFIED. WE DIDN'T WANT TO BE THE GUINEA PIGS HERE FOR ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING THREE FULL FIELDS, NOT JUST ONE. AND THEN THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE.

THE ADVANCED SPORTS GROUP, THEY SUBMITTED FOR BOTH, BUT THEY WERE THE HIGHEST IN PRETTY MUCH EVERY CATEGORY. SO WE WEREN'T, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE HIGHEST, THE HIGHEST PRICE FOR EVERYTHING. SO THAT KIND OF NARROWED US DOWN TO PRECISION TURF AND SPORTS FIELDS. AND IT JUST SO HAPPENED THE WAY THEY, THEY, THEIR PRICES SHAKED OUT. THEY, THEY DID BOTH BID ARTIFICIAL AND THEY BOTH BID NATURAL GRASS. AND IT SO IT WORKED OUT TO WHERE SPORTS FIELDS. IF WE GO WITH ALL THREE ARTIFICIAL FIELDS THEY HAD THE BEST PRICE. SO I HIGHLIGHTED WHERE IF WE DID ALL THREE ARTIFICIAL FIELDS IN A 46 OUNCE TURF, THAT THEY HAD THE LOWEST PRICE OUT OF THE TWO OF THEM, AND THEN THE MIDDLE HIGHLIGHTED. ONE WAS IF WE DID THREE ARTIFICIAL FIELDS OUT OF A 52 OUNCE, IT'S A HEAVIER GAUGE ARTIFICIAL TURF THAN IT'S WHAT IS THAT, 70,000 MORE ROUGHLY. AND YOU WOULD GET A 52 OUNCE PRODUCT FOR ALL THREE FIELDS. SO THEY HAD THE BEST PRICE. IF WE GO ALL ARTIFICIAL, WHICH WE'LL TOUCH BASE AND FEEL FREE TO COME UP AT ANY TIME THAT OUR OVERALL RECOMMENDATION IS TO GO WITH ARTIFICIAL, WHICH WE'LL HIT ON REASONS OF THAT AND SO FORTH IN A SECOND. BUT OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO GO ALL ARTIFICIAL IF WE CAN NOW PRECISION TURF. IF YOU LOOK DOWN AT THE SECOND TO THE BOTTOM, THEY HAD THE LOWEST PRICE ON NATURAL GRASS, $891,446, THAT IF WE DECIDED TO JUST GO ALL NATURAL GRASS ON THE THREE PLAYING SURFACES, THEN IT'S JUST A TAD UNDER $900,000. AND THEN IF YOU COMBINED MAYBE TWO FIELDS OF ARTIFICIAL AND ONE FIELD OF GRASS, OR ONE FIELD OF ARTIFICIAL AND TWO FIELDS OF GRASS, THEN PRECISION TURF WAS ALSO THE CHEAPEST. THEIR PRICE WAS SO COMPETITIVE ON THE NATURAL GRASS THAT MAKES THEM THE BEST PRICE. IF WE DO NATURAL GRASS AT ALL, IT MAKES THAT MAKES THEM THE BEST PRICE. SO BASICALLY THERE'S OUR OPTIONS.

RIGHT THERE IS IF WE WANT TO GO NATURAL GRASS, PRECISION TURF IS OUR BEST BET, OUR BEST PRICE.

AND IF WE WANT TO GO ALL ARTIFICIAL SPORTS FIELDS HAS THE BEST PRICE. IF WE GO ALL ARTIFICIAL, WHAT I PUT IN. AND THEN WE ALSO ASKED EVERYBODY TO PRICE ONE SET OF GOALPOSTS THAT BECAUSE, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE ASKED TO PUT THIS OUT TO BID THAT THESE WILL BE MULTI-PURPOSE FIELDS WHERE WHERE IT HELPS US FOR ALL OF OUR SPORTS. IT HELPS US DURING FOOTBALL SEASON. IT HELPS US FOR LACROSSE IF WE HAVE IT. JUST LIKE CALLAWAY STADIUM IS LINED FOR ALL THREE SPORTS THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO THE SAME HERE, TO REALLY USE THEM AS MULTI-PURPOSE FIELDS TO HELP OUT ALL OF OUR SPORTS. AND SO WE WERE THINKING THAT IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN ONE OF THOSE FIELDS WE WOULD SET UP A GOALPOSTS. AND SO THEY ALL PRICED. AND SO IF WE WENT WITH PRECISION TURF AND WENT WITH GRASS, IT'D BE ANOTHER $20,529 DOWN AT THE BOTTOM TO D.

MAKE SURE WE INSTALL ONE GOALPOST, AT LEAST WE CAN DO 2 OR 3 FIELDS OF GOALPOST, BUT WE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THAT PRICE WOULD BE IF WE WANTED TO ADD GOALPOSTS. AND SO THOSE PRICES ARE THERE AT THE BOTTOM. AS WE WERE FINISHING SOME OF OUR DUE DILIGENCE YESTERDAY AND REALLY COMPARING PRECISION TURF AND SPORTS FIELDS, WE ACTUALLY CALLED THEM YESTERDAY TOO, AND WAS MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAD EVERYTHING IN OUR SCOPE OF WORK, MAKE SURE THEY HAD EVERYTHING THAT THEY WOULDN'T COME BACK LATER AND SAY, OH, WELL, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT IN THERE OR WE DIDN'T QUOTE THAT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE JUST HAPPEN TO CALL PRECISION TURF FIRST, AND THEY WE WENT DOWN THROUGH THE SCOPE OF WORK AND THEY YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, WE HAVE

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AND IT'S RIGHT AROUND TWO ACRES. AND SO, SO FOR EITHER COMPANY TO COME IN AND DO THE PLAYING SURFACES AND WHILE THEY'RE THERE TO LAY THE REST OF IT WITH SOD SO THAT EVERYTHING IS DONE INSIDE THE PARKING LOT AREA, SO TO SPEAK, INSIDE THERE, THEN, THEN THAT IS THE LOWEST NUMBER, WHICH I THINK WAS. IT'D BE $60,984 FOR PRECISION TURF, BECAUSE THEY WERE THE $0.70 A SQUARE FOOT AND THEN SPORTS FIELDS, THEIR TURF WAS A LITTLE HIGHER OR THEIR NATURAL GRASS WAS A LITTLE HIGHER. IT WAS $0.85 A SQUARE FOOT. SO THAT WOULD BE $74,052 TO THEN TO LAY MORE TURF ON THE REST OF THE AREAS, TO HAVE FULL GROUND COVERAGE, IF YOU WILL. SO THAT'S KIND OF A REAL QUICK LAYOUT OF HOW OUR PRICES CAME IN IN ORDER TO SURFACE EVERYTHING INSIDE OF THAT DRAWING, EITHER NATURAL GRASS OR ARTIFICIAL TURF WITH NATURAL GRASS ON THE PERIPHERAL.

ANY QUESTIONS? KIND OF A LOT TO TALK YESTERDAY. YES, SIR. I ASKED YOU ABOUT LANDSCAPING. I'M SORRY. COMPLEX, RIGHT? SHOULDE INCLUDED. JUST. YEAH. THIS IS JUST.

WHAT IEE IS WHATRY LITTLE IS LT BE SEED AND HAY. AND LATER LANDSCAPING. CORRECT. JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER. AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, YOU GO BAC TO GRIGGS, .

THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN WHERE WE TAKE THAT OUT OF THE GENERAL CONTRACTORS SO THAT THEY DON'T

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TWO OF YOU WERE NOT. IS THAT THEREFORE, WHEN YOU CAME IN, YOU KIND OF DIDN'T REALLY KNOW. ALL RIGHT. WHAT PARTS ARE DONE, WHAT PARTS ARE LEFT? YOU KNOW, JUST GIVING US A HEADS UP OF WHERE DO WE STAND ON THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN ROUTE, THAT ARE HALFWAY DONE TO WHERE WE KNOW AS COMMISSIONERS? AND, YOU KNOW, I APOLOGIZE. MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE FORESAW THAT WHERE WE HAD A MEETING THAT SAID, ALL RIGHT, LET'S BRING YOU UP TO SPEED ON ON WHERE WE ARE. I APOLOGIZE IF WE DIDN'T, BUT THEN AGAIN, UPFRONT, LIKE WE HAD TWO FOR PICKLEBALL. WE, WE, WE KIND OF KNOW AND WE, WE PUT IT DOWN ON PAPER. YOU JUST WEREN'T PRIVY TO IT AT THAT TIME OF WHAT ARE ALL THE PARTS AND PIECES ARCHITECTURE, ENGINEERING PERMITS I MEAN THE BUT BUT AGAIN LIKE THIS EVEN STARTED FOUR, FIVE YEARS AGO. YEAH, I CAN SAY THIS STARTED A LONG TIME AGO WHEN WE FIRST DID THE INITIAL PRELIMINARIES OF THIS, THE ESTIMATE, WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT GRASS AND WE WERE ESTIMATING AROUND 425 TO 400,000 A FIELD, WHICH IT CAME IN LESS THAN THAT.

AND THEN OVER THOSE YEARS, THE DEMAND BECAME MORE AND MORE OF WE WANT TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE TURF FIELD, WE WANT TO HAVE TWO. WE WANT TO HAVE THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER. AND THEN THAT'S WHERE IT JUST KIND OF GREW INTO. GIVE YOU GUYS ALL THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE FORESEEABLE FOR THE FUTURE.

SO YOU CAN MAKE THE BEST DECISION AS AS FAR AS WHAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS WANT. IT'S WHAT THE THAT'S FOR THE COUNTY. I DID GO THROUGH AND GIVE YOU, YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET UP THERE KIND OF A PRICING OF WHAT IT COST TO MAINTAIN THE GRASS FIELDS AS OPPOSED TO THE TURF FIELDS. BE HAPPY TO GO OVER ALL THAT WITH YOU. BUT WE DID ORIGINALLY WHEN WE PRESENTED ABOUT THIS COMPLEX, IT WAS $450,000, A FIELD GRASS IRRIGATED. THAT WAS THE ROUGH ESTIMATES WE WERE GIVEN AT THE TIME. THEN AND THEN THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE WENT WITH. THAT'S WHY I WAS KIND OF SHOCKED AT THE NUMBER THAT CAME IN FOR THE THREE FIELDS GRASS. THAT WAS A LOT LOWER THAN I EXPECTED.

TAMMY. LANCE, WHY ARE YOU SITTING HERE LOOKING? EXPLAIN THE TURF FIELD VERSUS THE GRASS FIELD FOR 15 OR 20 YEARS. OKAY. WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE DIFFERENCE IN A TURF FIELD FROM A GRASS FIELD. AND WHAT'S IT GOING TO COST YOU IN THE PARK AND REC TO MAINTAIN THE GRASS FIELD VERSUS THE TURF FIELD? OKAY. SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO YOU HAVE A HANDOUT HERE.

BASICALLY I TRIED TO GIVE AS GENEROUS OF NUMBERS AS I COULD AS WHAT IT WOULD COST OVER A 15 YEAR PERIOD. YOU KNOW LIKE I SAY WE THE LIFE EXPECTANCY WHEN YOU DO THESE, THEY'RE WARRANTED UP TO TEN YEARS ON A FIELD LIKE THIS THAT YOU'RE PLAYING SMALLER KIDS, YOU'RE NOT PLAYING THE ROUGH PLAY OF HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL. YOU KNOW, LIKE CALLAWAY STADIUM. WE GET ABOUT 9 TO 10 YEARS OUT OF THAT. WITH ALL WE HAVE THERE. WE'RE ANTICIPATING WE CAN GET CLOSER TO 15 OUT OF THIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF I WAS JUST PLAYING SEVEN AND EIGHT YEAR OLD SOCCER ON IT, I WOULD HAVE KEPT PLAYING ON CALLAWAY STADIUM THE WAY IT WAS. I WOULDN'T HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF, YOU KNOW, DOING IT. SO I FIGURED IT OVER A 15 YEAR PERIOD. BASICALLY THE COST IN LABOR AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DO THERE OVER 15 YEARS IS $1.17 MILLION IS ABOUT WHAT YOU WOULD SPEND IN FROM HAVING THE GRASS CUT TO PAYING FOR THE MOWERS, THE FERTILIZATION, THE PESTICIDES, THE STUFF THAT GO ON THE FIELD, THE AERATION, THE REPLANTING, THE SEEDS IN THE WINTER FOR THE RYEGRASS, STUFF LIKE THAT. SO, AND AS FAR AS THE USABILITY OF THE FIELD, THE TURF FIELD, I CAN PROGRAM MULTIPLE THINGS ON IT YEAR ROUND. WHEREAS THE GRASS FIELD PRETTY MUCH JUNE AND JULY, NOBODY CAN GET ON IT. I DON'T LET THEM ON IT BECAUSE THAT'S MY ONLY TIME TO GROW IT BACK WHERE IT'S BEEN BEAT DOWN DURING THE WHOLE SPRING AND THEN THE WINTER, DECEMBER, JANUARY AND FEBRUARY. I DON'T LET ANYBODY ON IT BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO GROW

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BALL. NOW WE DO NOT HAVE NOT ONE PRACTICE FOOTBALL FIELD IN THE ENTIRE CITY LIMITS HERE OR ANYWHERE ALL THE WAY FROM WEST POINT TO HOGANSVILLE. WE HAVE ABOUT 24 TEAMS AND NO PRACTICE FOOTBALL FIELDS. THEY HAVE TO FIND A SPOT ANYWHERE. THEY WILL LET US ON THE BASEBALL FIELDS THAT WE OWN AT HARRISON SHUFORD. JUST ON THESE FIELDS WE HAVE GIRLS FLAG FOOTBALL THAT HAS STARTED NOW AND IT IS GROWING. WE HAD EIGHT TEAMS IN OUR INAUGURAL SEASON LAST YEAR. WE USED THE FIELD ON THE BACK OF GRIGGS, WHICH WORKED FINE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE LIGHTS THERE. WE HAD TO START GAMES AT 515 AND IT WAS ABOUT DARK WHEN THEY FINISHED AND WE KNOW THAT'S GOING TO GROW AND SO IT'LL GIVE SPILLOVER TO HAVE SOME OF THE GIRLS FLAG FOOTBALL GAMES. WE'RE ALSO GETTING CALLAWAY STADIUM WORN OUT CONSTANTLY BY THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, WANTING TO HAVE STUFF THERE, AND THEY'RE CONTINUING TO GROW, BUT WE'RE CHARGING THEM RENT. AND IF WE HAVE A TURF FIELD, WE CAN CHARGE MORE AND WE CAN KEEP THEM PLAYING MORE. BUT PRIMARILY, I'M UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT EVERYTHING PARKS AND REC, COUNTY PEOPLE COME FIRST. WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET A PRIVATE ENTITY RENT OUR FIELDS AT ANY TIME FROM WHEN WE'RE DOING OUR PARKS AND REC ACTIVITIES, SO I'M JUST I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO NEED THE FIELDS. I'M NOT I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FIELDS, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE GOALPOST. THE REASON I'M SAYING YOU GO TO PEEWEE FOOTBALL. FOOTBALL? THEY DON'T NEED NO COST. EVEN WHEN YOU GET INTO MIDDLE SCHOOL. AND THREE MIDDLE SCHOOLS ALREADY HAVE THEIR FIELDS. CORRECT. WE WERE JUST GETTING PRICING ON IT TO GIVE YOU THE OPTION. I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING EXACTLY THINKING DO WE REALLY NEED THE GOALPOST? IS THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IS GOING TO COME THE I'M JUST LOOKING BACK IN THE DAY. MIDDLE SCHOOLS REALLY DON'T KICK FIELD GOALS, EXTRA POINTS YOU KNOW. YEAH WE GOT THEM KICKING THEM IN 11 AND 12 NOW OKAY. BECAUSE THEY GET TWO THEY GET TWO POINTS. IF THEY KICK. IF THEY KICK IT THEY GET STRONGER LEGS. NOW IF THEY KICK IT WELL WE DON'T LET THEM RUSH. AND IF THEY KICK IT WITHOUT THE RUSH THEY GET TWO POINTS FOR KICKING IT AS OPPOSED TO PASSING OR RUNNING TO TRY TO TRAIN SOME KIDS ON HOW TO KICK. I'MT GOING BACK ABOUT YEARS. YEAH. AND SO, LIKE LANCE SAID, WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE. YEAH. I'M SORRY. YES. AND I DON'T WANT TO COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD AND SAY, OH LORD, WE NEED TO PUT SOME LACROSSE LD THAT'S GOINGST A LOT MORE. YOU KNOW, JUST GO AHEAD. IT'S ALL INCLUDED IN THE PRICING AND IT'LL. YES FOR ME TO THAT'S THE PROBLEM. MOST PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. PEOPLE THINK, HEY, WE WANT TO HAVE A GAME FOE PLAY, YOU KNOW, ON ONE OF YOUR FIELDS? IT COST US A. AND THAT'S JUST THE PAINT. THAT'S NOT THE LABOR. YEAH, BUT YOU GOTTA HAVE SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS HOW TO DO IT. AND I ONLY HAVE ONE REALLY GOOD MAN. AND HE'S ON THE VERGE OF RETIREMENT. SO. BUT HE'S TRAINING. WE'RE TRYING TO GET HIM TO TRAIN OTHER PEOPLE THAT HE GOT HIS 25 YEAR SERVICE THE OTHER DAY. NOW IN THIS CONSTRUCTION AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THIS JUST GETTING THIS INFORMATION. WHAT. PUT ON THIS TO HAVE THIS IN PLACE, IS IT GOING TO BE TOMORROW OR IS IT GOING TO BE TWO MONTHS FROM NOW? THREE MONTHS FROM NOW? WHEN IS IT ACTUALLY GOING TO BE? A LOT OF IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON KIND OF WHAT YOU VOTE AS WELL IF. AND IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO, IT REALLY NEEDS, YOU KNOW, END OF JULY, AUGUST TO TAKE THE ROOTS, TO TAKE HOLD. YOU DON'T WANT TO BE PUTTING ALL SIDE DOWN THERE. AND PART OF THE CONTRACT WITH IF THEY PUT ANY NATURAL GRASS IN, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT FOR 60 DAYS TO MAINTAIN IT AT A ONE INCH HEIGHT, TO CUT IT, FERTILIZE IT, AND I DON'T TOUCH IT FOR THE FIRST 60 DAYS. AND THEN THEY TURN IT OVER TO ME, SHOWING THAT IT'S HEALTHY. THE ROOT SYSTEM IS THERE. I THINK AS YOU GET LATER PAST THE SUMMER, IT GETS A LITTLE HARDER ON THAT. WELL, EXACTLY. WHERE ARE WE ON THE SCHEDULE WITH THIS PROJECT SO FAR? WE WOULD WE ARE WE WOULD BE READY TO LAY SOD IN 3045 DAYS UNLESS WE KEEP GETTING RAIN EVERY SYNTHETIC. SYNTHETIC CAN GET IT FROM THE FACTORY AND GET IT STRIPED WITH THE STRIPES YOU WANT. SO AND HOW ARE WE ON BUDGET ON IT RIGHT NOW? WE, WE DID TALK ABOUT WE WERE VERY, VERY CERTAIN WE'D HIT SOME BAD SOILS OUT THERE. WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND WE HAVE BEEN HITTING SOME. WE STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO QUANTIFY IT ALL YET BECAUSE WE'RE STILL DIGGING, BUT WE ON FIELD I CALL IT FIELD ONE. THE ONE CLOSEST TO WHITESVILLE

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LACROSSE NOT HERE. BUT I MEAN IF IT DOES HOW DOES THIS I GUESS GOING INTO FIGURING WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO GO. I MEAN, SOCCER BEING PLAYED YEAR ROUND, I MEAN, SO I MEAN. I RUN THEM OFF THE FIELDS DURING THE SUMMER. I DO HAVE WE DO STILL PLAY SOME AT CALLAWAY STADIUM IN THE SUMMERS, WHERE SOME PEOPLE RENT THAT FIELD FOR SUNDAYS, THAT WE COULD TAKE THAT OFF OF THERE. BUT AS FAR AS YEAR ROUND, IT CAN'T BE RIGHT NOW. BUT WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT IT YEAR ROUND. MORE SO, BUT IT WOULD ALL COME THROUGH THE PARKS AND RECREATION. WE WOULD HAVE TO SCHEDULE THOSE FIELDS OUT JUST LIKE WE DO EVERYTHING ELSE, AND THEY WOULD BE A PRIORITY ORDER, THE FIRST PRIORITY BEING THE CITIZENS AND THE RECREATION LEAGUE FIRST. AND THEN WE WOULD GO DOWN FROM BASED ON THE NEEDS AS FAR AS THE REVENUE. IF WE INVEST. WHAT'S THE A RENT WOULD I CHARGE NOW FOR LIKE SAY IF IT'S IF IT'S ON THE SOCCER FIELDS NOW, IF IT'S SOMEBODY YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A DAY WE'RE NOT OPEN. IF IT'S 1 OR 2 KIDS, THEY GO OUT THERE KICKING THE BALL.

THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. WE DON'T WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT. BUT IT DOESN'T USUALLY HAPPEN THAT WAY.

SO WHAT IT IS, IS YOU GET PRIVATE GROUPS THAT WANT TO PRACTICE. RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE'VE BEEN CHARGING THEM ON THE GRASS FIELD AT THE TRACK IS $50 EVERY TIME THEY GO PRACTICE, WHICH

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SOMETIMES PEOPLE THAT RESERVE IT, I GIVE THEM A RESERVATION AND IF THEY'RE OUT THERE, T THE.

BASEBALL ALREADY. SINCE THEY'LL THEY'LL BE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY THEY KIND OF DO A LITTLE BIT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. BUT I WAS GUILTY OF THAT. THEY JUST JUMPED THE FENCE WIDE OPEN.

YES. AND THE REASON I'M LOOKING AT DIFFERENT THINGS ON, ON HERE ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ENFORCE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S I MEAN, THAT'S ALWAYS AN ISSUE. MY, MY BEST WAY TO ENFORCE IS TO PROGRAM IT. THE MORE I CAN GET PROGRAM THROUGH THE COUNTY ON THOSE FIELDS, THE LESS THERE IS FOR PEOPLE TO JUST COME OUT THERE AND START TAKING OVER. AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING A PARTY OUT THERE ON THE FIELD, COMING AND DRINKING AND LEAVING THE STUFF, THE MORE I CAN KEEP THAT STUFF PROGRAMED, YOU KNOW, WITH INDIVIDUAL CLUBS, WITH THE KIDS THAT ARE PLAYING WITH OUR PROGRAMS, THE LESS OPPORTUNITY IT IS FOR STUFF LIKE THAT GO ON. BUT IT IS A IT'S A CONSTANT BATTLE EVERYWHERE. I MEAN, AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, SOME OF THE QUESTI MAKE SURE Y'ALL HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION STUFF TO LANDSCAPING. THERE'S GOING TO BE VERY MINIMAL LANDSCAPING. ESCAPING THEIR UNDER THEIR ORDINANCES. SO I KNOW THAT. THAT ARE GOING TO FALL AND ALL FALL WHEN WE PLAY. AND THE WAY THE PARKING LOT DESIGNED, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF I THERE'S NO ISLANDS IN IT. SO THERE'S NOT LIKE I GOT A PUT STUFF IN AN ISLAND THERE. IT'S PRETTY MUCH JUST FLAT. THE OTHER ADDITIONAL FEES THAT I KNOW THAT WILL COME EVENTUALLY, BUT MAYBE THEY'LL HAVE, MAYBE THEY'LL HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE THEY HAVE VERY FEW TREES AT GRANGER PARK. OH YEAH. SO MAYBE THEY'LL HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING ON THIS WHEN YOU GET RIGHT DOWN TO IT. T PLAYGROUND. THAT'S A MATCHING GRANT THAT SHOULD. FOR I THINK AROUND $700,000, WE'D BE ABOUT 350,000. IT'S AN ADAPTIVE PLAYGROUND, BUILT FOR HANDICAP, BUILT FOR ANY PERSON WIT DISABILITY, AS WELL AS R KIDS. THAT'S ALREADY ON THE PLANS. IT'S BEEN SOME. I CAN FORESEE IS WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK FOR. THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME NETTING REQUIREMENTS AROUND HERE. I DO KNOW THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A WAY TO PREVENT THAT BALL FROM GOING INTO WHITEFORD ROAD IN PLACES LIKE THAT DURING THE COURSE OF PLAY. JUST WANTED YOU GUYS TO BE AWARE OF OTHER STUFF THAT COULD COME UP THAT WILL COME UP. THE LANDSCAPING SHOULD BE A MINIMAL, LIKE LANCE SAID, BECAUSE LIKE IN THIS, AGAIN, WE'RE WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING IN THAT GREEN. WE'RE

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SO YOU'RE ONLY TALKING ISLANDS IN THE PARKING LOT. AND I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY MINIMAL BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE CAPTURING 99% OF THE AREA. SO WHAT WE CAN SHOW, YOU KNOW, A PICTURE OR SHOW THEM SOMETHING LIK THAT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S THAT'S JU AND THAT'S KIND OF CONTINGENT ON THAT PLAYGROUND GOING THERE AS RECEIVING THE GRANT. WELL, IF YOU HAD A IF YOU HAD A COMPANY WHICH HAS DONE SOME FOR US, IF THEY DID A MASTER PLAN FOR YOU, IT WOULD SHOW A PLAYGROUND HERE,BE A FUTURE WALKING TRAIL HERE OR TWO. ON IT ACTUALLY. AND IT'S ON THERE. IT SAYS PROPOSED PLAYGROUND. SO SOMEONE SOMEONE'S DRAWN SOMETHING THEY'RE GOING TO PROPOSE OR WHAT ARE WHAT OTHER THINGS WE COULD DO LATER. SO IT'S ON THERE AS PROPOSED. I MEAN THAT WHEN ALL THEIR OLDER SIBLINGS ARE PLAYING BALL THAT THEY CAN THE LITTLER ONES CAN GO OVER THERE AND HAVE A NICE PLAYGROUND AND KIND OF BE OUT OF MOM AND DAD'S HAIR, MAYBE FOR A LITTLE BIT. AND, BUT BUT AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE SUBBING, ESPECIALLY ON THIS PROJECT. WE'RE NOT GIVING IT TO A GENERAL CONTRACTOR. WE'RE TRYING TO SUB OUT ALL THE PIECES OURSELVES AND MAYBE HELP YESTERDAY. YEAH. AND I WAS GOING TO I LIKE THIS ONE. TOTAL PACKAGE. AND HE WOULD STILL SHOW THAT THERE. PERCENT OF PEOPLE THAT'S APPROVED OF THESE PROJECTS. AND EVERY TIME YOU COME BACK ADD SOMETHING TO IT. YOU JUST OPENING THE WOUND BACK UP. WELL, EVEN FORLAYGROUND, I MEAN, IT'S A FUTUR PLAYGROUND THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T GET A GRANT. YOU OR IF WE'RE LUCKY ENOUGH AND GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO GET THIS FROM. THE DNR.

JUST LIKE, WELL, JUST LIKE AN ACCOUNTABILITY COURSE, COME BACK WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY. ARE YOU STILL IN THE BUDGET? YES. THAT'S WHAT WELL, LIKE LANCE SAID, WE WERE BUDGETING LIKE 1.5 MILLION FOR NATURAL GRASS TOTAL FOR THREE FIELDS. WE'RE BUDGETING SOMEWHERE 1 TO 1.5 MILLION FOR NATURAL GRASS, AND I THINK IT WAS UP TO 3.5 MILLION FOR ARTIFICIAL. AND OUR NUMBERS THAT WE GOT IN WERE MORE COMPETITIVE THAN THAT. SO JUST ON THE TURF STUFF, WE'RE WE'RE UNDER BUDGET FROM WHAT OUR FIRST THOUGHTS WERE BACK 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO WHEN WE GOT THIS FROM THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. SO WHAT DO WE KNOW? WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OF GOOD NEWS? BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TWO GIFTS GIVEN TO YES. TO HELP FUND THIS. YES. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE. GRANT AT THIS TIME THAT TOTALED ABOUT $900,000, I BELIEVE. CORRECT FOUNDATION IN ONE OF LAST MEETINGS, APPROVED 750,000. AND THEN ANOTHER FOUNDATION PLEDGED 150. SO 750 AND 150. WE HAVE $900,000 IN THOSE PLEDGES ARE SINCE WE APPROVED. SINCE THEN, WE'VE GOTTEN 900,000. FROM ANOTHER FOUNDATION FOR 350. WE HAVE HAD SOME AND THIS IT DOES PROVIDE AMAZING WALKING AREAS FOR PEOPLE THAT IF THEY'RE OUT THERE TO WATCH THEIR KIDS OR IF THEY'RE THERE AND THEY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WALKING SOMEWHERE WHERE NOT A CROWD. THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO WALK AND CIRCLE AND GO AT LEAST A MILE OR SO JUST ON THE W WHILE THEY'RE OUT THEREIRT WANT TO USE IT TO WALK. A PROPOSED THIS WAS ORIGIN DOLLARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT SET ASIDE. TIME TO GET THE PROPERTY, GET IT DEVELOPED. AND THE FIRST PORTION OF THAT MONEY WENT TO DEMOLISHING THE SCHOOL AND GETTING IT READY TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS HISTORIC. YEAH. AND THEN WHEN INFLATION SHOULD HIT HERE, I SAY THIS. WE'RE, MEAN FOR THE PRICE WE HAVE THIS WE'RE VERY BLESSED BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE. GETTING BUILT FOR LESAN $E HUNDRED ACRES WITH IT AS WELL AS THAT GYM. SO YEAH. AND I GUESS

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BUT WHEN YOU STARTED THIS PROJECT TO SAY IT WAS $10 MILLION, YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? OR WAS IT JUST LIKE, HEY, WE'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE SE WAS A ROUGH TOTAL AMOUNT, BUT WE KNEW THAT ROUGH TOTAL AMOUNT WAS GOING TO GO OVER THE ONE. TABLED FOR A WHILE UNTIL WE FIGURED A PLAN. AND AT THAT TIME WHEN WE FIRST WHAT WAS THAT? IT WAS IN SPLOST FIVE. YEAH, IN SPLOST FIVE, THEY WERE ESTIMATED THAT THEY JUST PUT 1.25 MILLION IN THERE FOR THAT BECAUSE THEY WERE THINKING, WE'LL JUST ADD SOME FIELDS THERE, LEAVE THE SCHOOL. AND IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY. IT WAS KIND OF THAT. AND SO FROM THERE IT'S KIND OF THERE. IT KIND OF GOT WE GOT POSSESSION OF THE SCHOOL. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THEY WERE I GUESS WHEN SPOT FIVE REALLY STARTED, THEY WERE JUST GOING TO BE BUILDING SOME ON SCHOOL PROPERTY. STILL. DO WE HAVE POSSESSION OF ALL OF THE EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR THE BURWELL SCHOOL, WHICH IS IN THE, IN THE FAR REAR OF THAT PLACE. N . IT'S A TEN ACRE PARCEL, A VERY BACK. I KNOW THEY'RE IN IT, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT DO THEY HAVE ANY. IT'S A LEASING MOVING OUT TO. YEAH I KNOW THEY ARE. BUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS DO THEY HAVE ANYTHING CONTROLLING WHERE THEY STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF INTEREST IN THAT BUILDING. NO OWNERSHIP INTEREST. IT'S A LEASE. IT'S A LEASE. IT'S AOW LE LEASE? TEN YEARS. OKAY. SO THEY GOT AT LEAST FOR TEN. THAT'S RIGHT. FACILITY RIGHT NOW. AND THAT TEN YEARS IS PROBABLY DOWN TO ABOUT FIVE. IF I WAS SIX I GOT A SITUATION ON THAT. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. YEAH THEY LEASED IT UNTIL THE TIME AT WHICH THEY KNOW THEY GOT A TEN YEAR LEASE ON IT, OR AT WHICH TIME THEY GAVE IT UP. RIGHT. KIND OF. IS THAT IN THE LEASE? YES. OKAY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE. AND I'VE MET OUT THERE AT LEAST THREE TIMES IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS WITH PENNY TUCKER, THE ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT OF THE SCHOOLS, AND RYAN TRAYLOR, WHO'S OVER ALL THEIR FACILITIES AND CONSTRUCTION. AND THEY HAVE EVERY TIME SAID, YEAH, LIKE, WE'RE ACTIVELY TRYING TO FINISH OUT SOME OF THE OLD ROSEMONT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO MOVE THEM IN THERE. AND THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN OUR GOAL IS THAT THEY'LL BE MOVING IN THERE, LIKE WHEN SCHOOL STARTS. AND ONLY IN THERE FOR THE REST OF THE SUMMER, BASICALLY FOR SUMMER SCHOOLS. OLD ROSEMONT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. LAWSUITS. THE PAPER JUST WE NOT WE HAVE NOT. YOU LOTS OF ELECTIONS HAVE GONERD TT FAMILIES ARE STILL IN AND PROJECT ALLOCATED FOR THE KIA BOULEVARD REGION WAY AND PARKWAY. I UNDERSTAND THAT PROJECT IS UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW.

WITH KIA. YES, SIR. WEST POINT IS LEADING THATRGE WITH THE GI. AND BACK TO OUR RECOMMENDATION OF THE. FOR SOCCER. FOOTBALL. A DRAINS. IT'S YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT YOUR FIELD GETTING ALL TORE UP WITH MUD AND IT JUST GIVES US SO MUCH MORE FLEXIBILITY TO USE THEM AS MULTI-PURPOSE FIELDS AND YEAR ROUND, WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR MONTHS FOR GRASS TO GROW BACK. SO IT'LL JUST BE A LOT OF GOOD FLEXIBILITY. SO LET ME ASK THIS. WE CAN I'LL DIRECT THIS TO SONIA IF WE JUST KIND OF ROUND UP FOR A FEW MOMENTS $2.5 MILLION. WE'VE GOT NINE, 900. TO GO TOWARDS THIS. SO THAT LEAVES US AT ABOUT ONE POINT 6 MILLION. THAT NOT I KNOW THAT WE'VE RECEIVED ENOUGH FUNDS TO. COULD WE WHEN WOULD WE PROBABLY HAVE $1.6 MILLION TO FUND THIS PROJECT? THE TOTAL 1.6. IT WOULD PROBABLY JUST FOR THIS PROJECT.F MONTHS, A COUPLE. SO. PROBABLY BY AUGUST, BUT POSSIBLY BY JULY, AND I CAN REVIEW T AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHEN WE'RE GETTING THE BILL FROM THE COMPANY. YEAH. DISCOVERED THE

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INVEST IN SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO LAST TEN YEARS, 11 YEARS, WHATEVER. I MEAN, WE'RE WE'RE JUST HERE TO THE THAT'S WHAT WE SAID. YES. I'M USING THE LONG NUMBERS. WELL THE LIGHTS AND THE LIGHTS IN THE, THE LIGHTS IN THE GRADING ARE GOING TO LAST IN THE PARKING LOT. BETTER LAST LONGER THAN THAT FOR SURE. WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A HUGE INVESTMENT IN THIS. WE'RE JUST OF THE STADIUM. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE THIS AT SOME POINT IN TIME. I MEAN, I WOULD ALMOST MAKE THE ARGUMENT, WHY IS THIS NOT A CAPITAL EXPENDITURE? BECAUSE IT'S BY DEFINITION, CAPITAL IS USUALLY ANYTHING THAT'S FIVE YEARS OR LONGER BY ACCOUNTING STANDARD. OKAY. SO IF WE'RE INVESTING SOME $10 MILLION, YOU KNOW, I MEAN YOU GOT FIVE, MAYBE TEN YEARS. I MEAN, WHY IS THIS WHY IS THIS NOT EVEN CONSIDERED A CAPITAL PROJECT? AND WE'VE GOT THAT MONEY SITTING THERE TO DO THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. WE'VE NOT MOVED ON SEVERAL PROJECTS, OKAY? WE'VE NOT MOVED. THAT MONEY IS SITTING THERE. SO I, I WOULD MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT WE SHOULD PAY FOR IT OUT OF CAPITAL. YOU WANT ME TO ARGUE WITH YOU? NO. I'M KIDDING. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THE CAPITAL ACCOUNT WAS. THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT. AND BY DEFINITION, IT IT MEETS THAT CATEGORY. THAT'S CORRECT. I KNOW WHEN WE WHEN WE MOVE FORWARD, A FEW YEARS AGO, WHEN WE RAISED THREE QUARTERS OF A MEAL TO DO THE ROOF AT THE JAIL AND TO DO WHATEVER ELSE ON YOU, WE DIDN'T PAY THE INTEREST BACK. AND WE WENT TO THAT MONEY, DID WE? YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. I MEAN, WITH THE STADIUM, WE HAD A TIMING ISSUE. WE NEED TO GET THAT TURF REPLACED BEFORE FOOTBALL SEASON STARTED AGAIN.

AND WE HAD TO WORK AROUND THAT. IN THIS CASE, WE'RE DEALING WITH SOMETHING ALSO. NOW, OUR OFFICIAL WE PUT DOWN PRETTY MUCH AT THE GROWING SEASON, BUT WE'VE KIND OF GOT A TIME LIMIT. WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT. AND IF WE SAY THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN GOING ON, I GOT INVOLVED WITH A LONG TIME AGO IN SECURING THE PROPERTY. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME. WE'VE GOT THE FUNDS. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHICH PANT POCKET DO WE REACH INTO TO PAY FOR IT? AND AGAIN, I ARGUE THE FACT THAT IF THE CAPITAL CAN BE THERE FOR A LONG TIME, IT MEETS THE DEFINITION OF CAPITAL. WHY DID WE NOT CONSIDER IT THAT WAY? THAT'S MY POINT. WELL, I MEAN, IT'S FUNDS IN SPLOST SIX SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS, IN OTHER WORDS, IS THAT THAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE, BECAUSE WHAT WOULD WE DO WITH THE SPLOST FUNDS IF THEY WERE ALLOCATED FOR IT? YEAH, I MEAN, IT IS IT'S SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO SAY VOTED FOR IT TO COME OUT. OKAY. BELIEVE ME, WHILE WE'RE STILL IN SPLOTCH SIX, WE'LL FIND I MEAN, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE THE PLAYGROUND OR THERE'S GOING TO BE TO, YOU KNOW, REDO THE LOWER FIELDS OR. SOMETHING. WELL, I MEAN, HERE IT IS NOW. OKAY. LET'S JUST GO BACK AND SWAP. AND THAT'S WHAT THE VOTERS SAID. ARE WE GOING TO HOLD THE PROJECT UP WHILE WE WAIT TILL WE GET ALL THE FUNDS IN? MY, MY ONLY THING I'LL SAY ON THE SPLOST IS THAT THEY THEY VOTED FOR 1.2 MILLION.

THAT WAS WHAT WAS ALLOCATED. FIVE. YEAH. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT SIX HAS GOT. SIX WAS JUST A GENTLEMAN. I DID NOT SPECIFY SOCCER COMPLEX. NO.F YOU'VE BEEN TRYING. WHEN WE THANK THE VOTERS THEY APPROVE THE SOCCER COMPLEX IN IN SPLOST 51. $2 MILLION IN SPLOST SIX. IT IS NOT DEFI BUT IT CAN BE DEFINED AS A PROJECT. IT COULD BE, IT CAN BE. PARKS AND

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[11. Discuss Property Casualty Insurance Broker Bid/Update(Dexter Wells]

COMM TRO COUNTY'S CURRENT INSURANCE COVERAGE IS SET TO. THAT DATE. COUNTY STAFF WAS ASKED TO EVALUATE E AVAILABLE OPTIONS AND RECOMMEND. POTENTIAL APPROACHES.

PARTICIPATION IN THE ACC IRMA RISK POOL, AND PROCUREMENT OF COVERAGE THROUGH A PRIVATE INSURANCE BROKER. THE COUNTY ENGAGED WITH ACOG AND ALSO ISSUED A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR POTENTIAL BROKER SERVICES. TWO BROKER RESPONSES WERE RECEIVED FROM OAKBRIDGE INSURANCE AND T HUDSON RISK ADVISORS. BOTH FIRMS WERE INTERVIEWED BY THE COMMITTEE ON MAY THE 2ND. 2025, ALONG WITH WILLIAM BUFFER, THE COUNTY'S OUTSIDE INSURANCE COUNSEL. THE COMMITTEE ALSO MET WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE ACOG IRMA PROGRAM TO REVIEW THEIR PROPOSED COVERAGE AND SERVICES. AFTER COMPLETING ITS REVIEW, THE COMMITTEE CONCLUDED THAT THE ACOG IRMA RISK POOL OFFERED THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE, COST EFFECTIVE COVERAGE. KEY

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FURTHER SUPPORTING THIS RECOMMENDATION. ADDITIONAL SERVICES WITH ACOG IRMA ARE STATUTORY BONDS, CYBER RISK, HUG HUB, AND CRISIS MANAGEMENT SUPPORT, RISK CONTROL AND SAFETY SERVICES. PERIODIC PROPERTY APPRAISALS EVERY FIVE YEARS AND ACCESS TO H.R LEGAL SERVICES, WHICH WE THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT. JAMES, IF YOU CAN SCROLL DOWN AND SHOW THE MAP RIGHT BELOW THAT. SO CURRENTLY THERE'S 122 COUNTIES 159 THAT ARE A PART OF. THE AUTHORITIES AS OF JUNE OF 2025. THE COMMITTEE CONCLUDED THAT THESE SERVICES ARE WELL TAILORED TO THE NEEDS OF GEORGIA COUNTIES, AS REFLECTED ON THE MAP. AND I'M GOING TO BE ASKING FOR FOUR THINGS IF IT'S APPROVED BY THE BOARD FOUR MOTIONS. ONE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE PARTICIPATING IN THE ASSG IRMA PROGRAM, EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST, WITH AUTHORITY FOR THE COUNTY MANAGER TO FINALIZE THE TERMS OF THE COVERAGE, INCLUDING DEDUCTIBLES, LIMITS, AND ANY ENDORSEMENTS CONSISTENT WITH COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS AND AUTHORIZATION TO OBTAIN MARKET COVERAGE FOR RISK NOT COVERED UNDER THE ACC IRMA PROGRAM, WHICH BE COVERAGE FOR THE AIRPORT. I THINK THAT'S MAJORITY OF IT. AUTHORIZATION TO SECURE COVERAGE FOR ANY CLAIMS MADE POLICIES TO ENSURE THERE ARE NO GAP DURING THE TRANSITION TO THE IRMA OCCURRENCE BASED PROGRAM AND APPROVAL OF THE IRMA RESOLUTION FOR NEW MEMBERS THAT'S REQUIRED TO JOIN THE PROGRAM. A COUPLE THINGS I DID WANT TO BRING UP UNDER RISK CONTROL, AND THAT IS VERY WE PARTICIP AUTOMATICALLY LINE UP. SO WE MAY BE DOING THE SAME THING TWICE IN ORDER TO GET CREDIT ON BOTH SIDES. BY USING THIS ONE SYSTEM, WE'LL BE INTEG PROGRAM. SO HOPEFULLY WE GET MORE DONE. BRING UP THE HR LEGAL SERVICES. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

WE HAVE TO HAVE LEGAL ADVICE ON HR ISSUES CONSTANTLY, AND HAVING THAT SOMEONE TO CALL AS NEEDED IS VERY IMPORTANT. THAT'S PART OF THE PROGRAM. HAVING OUR PROPERTIES EVALUATED EVERY FIVE YEARS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBER OF, OR THE RIGHT VALUE ON OUR BUILDINGS. WE'RE NOW OVER $200 MILLION IN BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES IN THE COUNTY, SO HAVING THOSE EVALUATED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THE CORRECT AMOUNT OF COVERAGE THAT IS IMPORTANT, THAT'S INCLUDED IN THEIR SERVICES. THE CYBER RISK HUB, WE ALL KNOW THE URGENCY AND THE ONGOING ISSUES WITH THAT AND THEN KEEPING UP WITH THE BONDS AND THE LAST THING I WANT TO BRING UP IS THEY HAVE AN ONLINE PROGRAM FOR TRACKING CLAIMS THROUGHOUT THE PROGRAM, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO NOT ONLY THE COUNTY MANAGER, THE RISK MANAGER, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, BUT ALSO YOURSELVES. AS YOU GO THROUGH PENDING LITIGATION AND THAT SORT OF THING. THERE'S A PROGRAM YOU CAN GO IN AND LOOK AND SEE EVERYTHING THAT'S OUTSTANDING AND WHERE IT'S AT IN THE PROCESS. SO AND THE LAST THING WE THINK THIS IS MORE STABLE AND WE WE'VE CHANGED CARRIERS TWICE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS TRYING TO GET TO A MORE STABLE MARKET WE THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT. ON THE MAP. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT MOST OF THE ONES NOT IN GREEN ARE IN YOUR METRO AND YOUR BIGGER AREAS. AND THOSE MOST OF THEM ARE WENT TO A SELF-INSURANCE

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THERE'S A RESOLUTION. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? NO, IT'S I THINK IT COMES RIGHT AFTER THE MAP. UNLESS IT GOT OUT OF ORDER. RIGHT THERE. IF YOU SCROLL TO THE BOTTOM, THAT'S YOUR DIFFERENT COVERAGES. AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM IT'S GOT A THERE'S YOUR TOTAL PRICE. AND IT'S NOT INCLUDING AIRPORT OR DRUG SCREENING OF 1.283562. AND THAT'S THE ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION.

AND THAT IS LESS THAN WE CURRENTLY PAID FOR THIS YEAR'S COVERAGE. AND SO IF THE AIRPORT IT SAYS IT'S NOT INCLUDING THE AIRPORT AND DRUG SCREENING. WHAT HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT THAT WILL BE PROCURED. THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOTIONS THAT WOULD BE PROCURED FROM THE PRIVATE MARKET, AS WE GET IT NOW FOR THOSE TWO. SO WE'D HAVE TO FIND SOMEBODY. THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GO. WE WOULD REQUEST A RENEWAL FROM OVER WITH WHO WE HAVE NOW. OKAY. NOW I KNOW YOU'RE GOING, BUT ON THE MAP. YES. IS THIS AN. THIS. YES, SIR. YES, SI AND SO ALL THESE COUNTIES THAT ARE IN THIS GREEN. CORRECT. 122 OF THE 159. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT IHINK ABOUT WHAT WE LIKE ABOUT VERSUS OUR CURRENT COVERAGE IS THAT. AND THEY KNOW THAT HOW THE, YOU KNOW HOW TO WORK WITH COUNTY GOVERNMENTS. AND SO THEY GET IT. BUT IT'S LOOKED LIKE IT'S LIKE IT COULD BE A GROUP TWO. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SORT OF AND THAT IS A RISK POOL. BUT WE, WE, THEY, WE BASICALLY ARE POOLING OUR MONEY TO PAY FOR THE CLAIMS. THERE YOU GO. AND THE OTHER THING IS WE GET DIVIDENDS BACK AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, JUST LIKE ON OUR WORKERS COMP THING.

SO YEAH, WE GET DIVIDENDS. AND I THINK THOSE DIVIDENDS WEREN'T L0 SINCE 200. IS QUITE A BIT OF MONEY THAT WE ARE ABLE OR HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME OF GOVERNMENT, WE'RE GETTING HARDER AND HARDER TO INSURE. HE'S TRYING TO GET THE BEST RATE THEY CAOU CAN JUST READ IT. INT UNDER THE WORKERS COMP. ANDITH THIS. BECAUSE WE'RE A LARGER COUNTY THAN MOST. AND SO THERE'S ABOUT 100, I GUESS, 122 OF US THAT MEET EVERY YEAR IN AUGUST. AND WE DISCUSS ABOUT ISSUES NOT ONLY PERTAINING TO JUST INSURANCE, BUT. TOGETHER. AND SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THESE RELATIONSHIPS, YOU KNOW, NOT TO REINVENT THE WHEEL. IF SOMEBODY'S ALREADY MADE IT, WE MIGHT WANT TO MAKE THE WHEEL BETTER, BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO USE THE WHEEL. TO YOUR ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. MR. I SPOKE TO A FEW COUNTY MANAGERS.OUT THEIR EE HCC RISK POOL, AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY HAPPY. AND. AND WE HAVE BEEN WITH. ONE. PLAY IT NOW. YES. AND COVERAGE IS BETTER AND THE COVE SO OUR OUR INSURANCE WITH OUR CURRENT PROVIDER EXPIRES AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. THAT IS CORRECT. SO THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. IF WE APPROVE THAT TONIGHT, THEN THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH HAVING US BOUND BY JULY 1ST. THERE IS NOT. AND ALL OF THOSE FOUR MOTIONS WILL IT WILL MAKE THAT HAPPEN. THEY REQUIRES A RESOLUTION THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PACKAGE. BUT THOSE FOUR ITEMS WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF TONIGHT, DID YOU HAVE TO DO THOSE INDIVIDUALLY OR CAN YOU DO

[02:15:04]

[10. Discuss County Road Striping project(James Emery)]

PAINT, IT'S SPRAYED. THOSE GLASS BEADS ARE DIFFERENT FROM SAND. THEY'RE THEY'RE MANUFACTURED IN A WAY THAT THOSE SPHERES, BECAUSE A SPHERE WOULD SHINE A LIGHT AT, IT WILL ALWAYS REFLECT BACK AT YOU. IT WILL NOT REFLECT THE LIGHT IN ANOTHER DIRECTION. WHEN THAT ROAD STRIPING GETS COVERED WITH RAINWATER AT NIGHT AND YOUR HEADLIGHTS HIT THE GLAZED OVER, STRIPING, THE LIGHT FROM YOUR HEADLIGHTS REFLECTS OFF OF THE WATER AWAY FROM YOU, NOT BACK AT YOU. AND SO I WANTED TO EXPLAIN THIS BECAUSE YOU HEAR A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT OUR ROAD STRIPING. AND I ALWAYS IF I'M TALKING TO SOMEONE WHO'S COMPLAINING ABOUT THE ROAD STRIPING, I DON'T DISMISS THE COMPLAINT. I WANT TO I WANT TO INVESTIGATE AND SEE IS THE IS THE ROAD STRIPING AT THE PARTICULAR LOCATION? THEY'RE THEY'RE REPORTING IN GOOD CONDITION OR NOT. BUT I ALWAYS ASK, ARE YOU LOOKING AT IT AT NIGHT IN THE RAIN? BECAUSE IF YOU ARE, EVEN BRAND NEW STRIPES WILL NOT REFLECT RIGHT BACK AT YOU AT NIGHT IN THE RAIN AND THEY LOOK LIKE THEY DISAPPEAR.

SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO HAVE USE SO MUCH MORE CAUTION DRIVING AT NIGHT IN THE RAIN FOR THAT REASON. THAT'S ALSO THE REASON THAT MOST ROAD OWNERS HAVE TAKEN TO USING THE PRACTICE OF INSTALLING WHAT I CALL RPMS OR RAISED PAVEMENT MARKERS. THE RAISED PAVEMENT MARKERS HAVE A RETROREFLECTIVE MATERIAL THAT IS RAISED UP ABOVE THE GLAZE OF WATER ON THE ROAD WHEN IT'S RAINING, AND SO THEY WILL ALWAYS SHINE BACK AT YOU, EVEN AT NIGHT IN THE RAIN. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE PUT RPMS ON THE ROAD IN TROUP COUNTY. I BROUGHT THE PROPOSAL BEFORE THIS BOARD MANY YEARS AGO TO CHANGE OUR STANDARD TO A STANDARD OF PLACING THEM ONLY ONE ROAD DOWN THE CENTER LINE.

OUR ROADS ARE NOT AS WIDE AS STATE ROUTES AND FEDERAL HIGHWAYS. AND SO WE USE A NARROWER ROW OF RPMS AS OPPOSED TO WHAT YOU'LL SEE ON STATE HIGHWAYS. AND THAT KEEPS MOTORS FROM HUGGING THE EDGES OF THE ROAD. WE WANT THEM TO STAY CLOSER TO THE CENTER AND NOT AND NOT COME OFF OF THE EDGE, BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S VERY DANGEROUS AND CAN CAUSE CRASHES.

WE ALSO HAVE MAINTAINED A PRACTICE OF STRIPING NOT ONLY CENTER LINES, BUT EDGE LINES.

EVEN ON ROADS THAT ARE NOT EXTREMELY WIDE, THEY ARE WIDE ENOUGH FOR TWO LANE TRAFFIC. AND WE STRIKE THE EDGE LINES AND THE CENTER LINES, THE EDGE LINES REALLY BEING THE MORE IMPORTANT STRIPE OVERALL, ACCORDING TO A LOT OF ENGINEERING STUDIES THAT I'VE SEEN. BACK, COMMISSIONER JONES MIGHT HELP ME ON THIS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS 2002, 2003 SOMEWHERE BEFORE I CAME, 21

[02:20:07]

MUST HAVE BEEN CLOSE TO 15 YEARS AGO WHEN THE TWO RIVERS DECIDED TO ADD A SERVICE TO PROVIDE THE RPMS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T INITIALLY PROVIDE THAT SERVICE, BUT THEY DID PURCHASE A MACHINE.

THEY, IN THE CASE OF RPM MACHINE, I WAS EVEN INVOLVED AS ONE OF THE MEMBER COUNTIES IN RECOMMENDATIONS ON SPECS, AND WE RESEARCHED EXACTLY THE BEST TYPES OF MACHINE FOR THAT TYPE OF INSTALLATION AND PURCHASED A MACHINE THAT'S IDENTICAL TO WHAT GEORGIA DOT WAS USING TO INSTALL RPMS. SO WE ALSO ARE ABLE TO GET THAT SERVICE AT COST. NOW, THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHEN WE HAVE NOT USED THAT SERVICE FOR VARIOUS REASONS. IT'S NOT ALWAYS AS READILY AVAILABLE. IF RIVERS IS WORKING IN ANOTHER COUNTY AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING. BUT LATELY, THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE'VE USED THEM FOR ALL OF OUR STRIPING, ASIDE FROM THE RESURFACING WORK WHERE THE STRIPING IS A SUBCONTRACT OF THE OF THE CONTRACTOR THAT'S DOING THE ASPHALT WORK. THE PRICING HAS STAYED VERY CONSISTENT FOR MANY YEARS. THE PRICING IS $615 PER LINE MILE. A LINE MILE IS A MILE OF STRIPING OF ONE STRIPE. AND SO DOUBLE YELLOW STRIPED CENTER LINE WITH EDGE LINES WOULD BE FOR LINE MILES PER ROAD MILE. THE CALCULATION TO DETERMINE WHAT IT COSTS TO STRIPE. YOU KNOW, OUR HUNDREDS OF MILES OF COUNTY ROADS IS CAN BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT HOW MUCH, HOW MANY LINE MILES WE ACTUALLY HAVE PER ALL OF OUR ROAD MILES. WE'VE DONE SOME STUDIES OF CONCISE AREAS TO DETERMINE WHAT IS THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF LINE MILES PER ROAD MILE, AND WE'VE COME BACK AT 3.5 LINE MILES PER ROAD MILE IS SORT OF AN OVERALL AVERAGE.

WE'VE USED THAT TO APPROXIMATE WHEN WE BUDGET FOR STRIPING AND WHEN WE CONTRACT WITH TWO RIVERS FOR STRIPING, AND THEY'VE AGREED THAT THAT WORKS FOR THEM. THE MACHINES ARE ARE CAPABLE OF MEASURING AS THEY GO. AND SO THEY CAN THEY CAN GIVE FEEDBACK AS THEY GO AS TO HOW MANY LINE MILES THEY HAVE STRIPED EACH DAY. BUT BUT THE PRICING THAT WE USE FOR OUR ROAD STRIPING IS 3.5 LINE MILES PER MILE. THE RPMS ARE ARE PRICED CURRENTLY AT $2.50 EACH. IS THE PRICING THAT TWO RIVERS HAS, WHICH IS THEIR COST TO PURCHASE IT AND INSTALL IT. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S MEETING, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S ANY CONCERN ABOUT COMPETITIVENESS VERSUS PRIVATE CONTRACTORS WHO HAVE TO MAKE MONEY AND HAVE TO HAVE MARKUP. SO WE PULLED ONE OF THE CONTRACTS FROM A FEW YEARS AGO

[02:25:05]

AND THEIR PRICING IS SET UP WITH A VERY COMPLICATED FORMULA. BUT BUT THEY HAD A PRICING OF $825 PER LINE MILE FOR SOLID FIVE INCH, AND THEN A PRICING OF $495 PER GALLON LINE MILE OR GROSS LINE MILE. SKIP FIVE INCH. AND IF YOU TAKE THOSE AND WELL, LET ME ALSO ADD THAT THE UNIT PRICE FOR RPMS UNDER THEIR CONTRACT WAS $7 EACH. SO WHEN YOU TAKE THOSE AND APPLY THE TYPE OF AVERAGE PRICING WE HAVE AT 3.5 LINE MILES PER MILE OF THEIR SOLID AND A HALF A MILE PER ROAD MILE OF THEIR SKIP. AND. AND 66 RPMS PER MILE OF AT THE $7, WHICH WOULD BE EVERY 80FT, WHICH IS OUR STANDARD. THAT GIVES YOU AN OVERALL PRICE PER MILE ON AVERAGE, WITH THE CONTRACTOR OF $3,597 PER MILE, VERSUS USING THOSE SAME CALCULATIONS WITH TWO RIVERS, OUR C AND D OF $2,317.50. SO A $2,279 DIFFERENCE, OR A 55%. ADDITIONAL COST. IT WOULD COST US TO USE A CONTRACTOR. AND SO THE CURRENT STRIPING LIST IS BASED ON A LOT OF FACTORS, MOSTLY THE AGE OF THE STRIPING AND. AND WE JUST ESTIMATE, AS I SAID, EACH EACH ROAD AT THE ROAD MILES TIMES 3.5 PLUS THE RPMS AT 80 FOOT SPACING. AND WHAT WE'VE GOT FOR THIS LIST OF 200 AND ALMOST 213 ROAD MILES IS $493,500.32 FOR THE STRIPING THAT WE DO UNDER THE 2025 LIST. I WILL ADD THAT THE FUNDING FOR THIS IS DESIGNATED WITH THE GDOT. LRA. IT WAS THE ADDITIONAL MIG THAT THAT THE STATE ALLOCATED FOR 2025 WITH ZERO MATCH. AND SO THIS IS 100% FUNDED. SO. I THINK THIS AGENDA ITEM WAS MAYBE MORE OF AN FYI THAN A THAN A REQUEST FOR A VOTE. BUT BUT I WANTED TO PUT THIS IN FRONT OF YOU AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THE PROGRAM AND WHAT WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON. SO DEFINITELY TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. AND THAT'S THE. THAT'S WHAT YOU GIVL ABOUT IS TRYING TO HELP THE 14 COUNTIES IN. NEEDS. AND THAT INVOLVES THE UNINCORPORATED. STATE. AND IF YOU WANT THE NLCS AND YOU. IT WAS CANCELED WORKS WITH NLCS AND IS ABLE TO BE ABLE TO DO A LOT OF THINGS THAT NORMALLY YOU COULDN'T DO. BUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH TWO RIVERS AND I'LL BE UP FRONT IS THAT WE HAVE TO GO BY GDOT STANDARDS AND SPECS WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS AND HOW WE MIX THIS STUFF, THIS PAINT, AND WE'VE HAD TROUBLE GETTING A PERSON TO RUN THE TRUCK. YOU'LL HAVE TWO PEOPLE. ONE THIS THIS CONTROLLING THE SPRAYING ON THE LINES AND ONE DRIVING THE VEHICLE. AND IT TOOK TWO RIVERS A TIME BEFORE THEY COULD FIND SOMEBODY TO DO THIS AND TO RIGHT NOW, TWO RIVERS HAS A PRETTY GOOD OPERATOR, AND THEY HAVE REALLY BEEN BUSY IN FAYETTE COUNTY AND UP AROUND IN THAT AREA. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE 14 COUNTIES. SO BUT TWO RIVERS IS VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE COUNTY COMING IN AND DOING WORK AND REALLY APPRECIATE IT, BECAUSE THE COUNTY DOES A LOT FOR TWO RIVERS. IT WORKS A LOT LIKE AN EXTENSION OF OUR CREW. WE ALONGSIDE THEM IN SOME WAYS WE ARE. GRASS AND DIRT OFF OF

[02:30:02]

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

CONSIDERATION REQUEST TO APPLY FOR GEORGIA OPIOID CRISIS TRUST GRANT. ITEM D IS CONSIDERATION OF THREE COUNTY WEBSITE DEVELOPMENT RATE ITEM. WE'LL DO A CHANGE OUT THERE FOR BOARD APPOINTMENTS OR NOT INCLUDED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND SO I WILL CHANGE IT OUT TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THE DISCUSSION REVOLVING AROUND. IMF IS CONSIDERATION OF REQUEST TO PURCHASE 25,000 ITEM G IS CONSIDERATION FOR COUNTY PICKLEBALL COMPLEX FINAL LANDSCAPING PROPOSALS. ITEM H CONSIDERATION OF THE BICYCLE ROAD SOCCER COMPLEX EXPANSION PROJECT. SPORTS TURF RFP ITEM IS CONSIDERATION OF COUNTY'S ROAD STRIPING PROJECT. ITEM J IS CONSIDERATION OF PROPERTY AND CASUALTY INSURANCE BROKER BENEFIT. ITEM K IS CONSIDERATION OF THE 900 DALLAS STREET PARKING LOT AND THEN UNDER PUBLIC HEARING WE HAVE THE REZONING OR AT 620 OLD HENDERSONVILLE ROAD THAT WAS TABLED AT THE LAST MEETING. AND THEN THE FINAL ITEM IS THE FINAL BUDGET PROPOSAL, PUBLIC HEARING AND BUDGET ADOPTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE DO THAT NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS EXECUTIVE SESSIONS. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT OF WORK SESSION AND GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS PERSONNEL MATTERS. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION TO COME OUT OF THE REGULAR WORK SESSION AND THEN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR PERSONNEL MATTER. SO I HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR BEING WITH US.

THANK YOU. DID I GET T

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